Want to save animal lives without going veg? Stop eating chickens.
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“Go vegan!” and “It’s not food, it’s violence!” are two rallying cries that animal welfare activists have been chanting for years. But for activist and vegan Matt Ball, the purist ideologies espoused in those mantras might actually work against the goal of reducing and ultimately ending animal slaughter.
Despite the animal advocacy from vegan and animal welfare groups, consumption of meat has grown in the United States from 183 pounds of red meat and poultry per capita in 1975 - the year Peter Singer’s seminal Animal Liberation was published - to an estimated 217.8 pounds this year.
Making matters worse, more than 80 percent of people who adopt a vegetarian (let alone vegan) diet ultimately go back to eating meat. According to Ball, vegetarians go back to their meat-eating ways in part because “they can't stand the pressure to maintain a pure diet.”
Although he is sympathetic to vegan and traditional animal welfare activism, Ball believes the time has come for activists to reconsider their tactics. That’s why in early 2014, he co-founded a new organization called One Step for Animals. Their goal is not to get individuals to take on any given lifestyle or diet, but rather to convince as many people as possible to simply stop eating chicken.
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It amuses me that one video would be so hated by both vegans and non vegans.
because this video is objectivly wrong. beef is so much worse than eating chicken that I just can't believe this video is from vox out of all CZcams channels out there.
Because this information is so inaccurate you feel like smacking yourself in the face. Ruminant animals like Cow produce greenhouse gases while processing their meal and need so much water and grazing land during their lifetime. I think there is an article on how Amazonian rain forests are being cut down in size drastically just to raise beef cattle.My information is little vague but I am sure you can find them on the internet.
onie619 Its that bad.
I think it makes sense.
I'm a buddhist and I believe that all lives are sacred, but also that I need to eat to survive, so 2 things are recommended:
1) Eat larger animals. A shrimp cocktail will kill many lives, while a lot of people can feed from the one life of a cow
2) Be conscious and compassionate about my choices. Just because I'm eating an animal doesn't mean that I have to be careless about it. Be thankful for the food on your table and don't waste.
There is a point about greenhouse gases and land, but it would be a marginal increase. We can get better at that.
Suq Madiq
Eating cows is so much worse for the environment
Alex S. i heard that chicken is the most environmentally sustainable animal to farm
Kerninja the Frog I think that's true but imagine how much of our emissions would reduce if we didn't have any animal products!
Alex S. apparently they're thinking about using chicken feathers as a way to efficiently store hydrogen so i guess in that way chicken farming can help reduce emissions
Alex S. this is the worst video of the channel
Kerninja the Frog no , cricket is
sounds like something a chicken would say.
hhh
Hahahahahahahaha
Lmao
Lol
Chickens pollute less than Cows though. I don't really care about eating chickens. The environment on the other hand..
Yeah, but his argument is based on how many animals are suffering because you're going to eat them, not how environmentally friendly they are to raise.
Humans pollute even more. Does it mean human should eat human ?
Pollution from cows is 2,7%. Not very much. Transportation and heating is 57%. Not worth going vegan for.
1 steer or cow is enough to feed a person that eats a lot of meat for a year. You need a 100-200 chickens for the same amount.
@@PB-eo4ry no
but cows are a big contrabuter to global warming.
Cows are so so much worse for the environment. They use almost 10x more water and contribute so much more waste.
I tried to hang myself once but I couldn't figure out where the noose went so I tied it to my ankles and hung there for a few hours, so I don't try to die anymore.
Surprised a person with a Hindu name is critiquing the consumption of cattle
Partiban Anathurai I call them Endians
If this is a joke, Dave, it's not funny because
1) Muslims eat beef, and
2) Puns suck
whoops I meant blowing up I'm the one blowing them
But beef has a much larger carbon footprint that will/has affected the planet.
I guess
therwen People have been working on solutions to use that gas and help save the environment as well as help humans. So if they find a full proof method then it would be amazing to only eat pigs and cows
therwen exactly what I was thinking
Exactly.
Is that per pound compared to chicken? does the carbon footprint of 200 chickens = 1 cow?
Feed conversion ratio on chicken is orders of magnitude better than beef. Beef is something like 7-1, which means 7 pounds in to 1 pound out. Feed conversion on chickens is something like 1.75-1. Stopping eating chickens is about the worst advice you can give. Instead focus on reducing consumption amounts. Eating much less much higher quality (and more expensive) meat. Buy small amounts of grass finished beef, pork, and chicken and make the meal focus less on the meat and more on the "side" foods. Quality over quantity.
Cows eats feed humans can't eat. Only 14% of feed cows eat can be human food according to FAO an EU organization. To abandon cows would increase emissions. Methane from cows is small compared to other methane sources.
www.scientificamerican.com/article/should-humans-eat-meat-excerpt/?redirect=1
This is literally what happens in India meat is a side dish not main course and we mostly eat only chicken
@@mortenandersson9358 that feed still has to be grown on cropland that could otherwise be used to grow human food. We would need much less agricultural land (less Amazon burnt down) if we didn't eat animals, especially cows. Also I agree with @farmerboybill because beef and pork have much more emissions per meal as compared to chickens and fish. Jbtw, check your stats, USA 27% methane emissions come from enteric fermentation (cow farts)
Yeah but I can get 10 mcburgers for less than $10
@@anhadsingh4609 it did grow human food, the cow ate it then I ate the cow, what's not to understand?
The point here should be:
1 Eat less meat/fish in general.
2 Make sure that the meat/fish you end up eating is either wild or comes from organic and ethical farms.
I strongly disagree. I would never eat wild animals, much less hunt them.
Consumption of domesticated animals is better than consuming wild animals because at a larger scale, it is much less destructive to ecosystems and the environment.
@@knightwing5169 Its wierd looking at this just one year after. I am now vegan and have been for the past 6 months.
@@esperantooslo Hmmm.... interesting.
And if you prefer to save the environment, eat chicken not beef
Your stupid
Ed Pachomovas you're* dumbass
Global warming is a hoax.
+SoulTurtle16 dumb ass* dumb ass
If you eat beef you're doing neither, many animals are dying from habitat loss due to cattle ranching
Cows: What the hell, man.
I'm hungry for chicken nuggets.
Luckily The ChickenGod Answer
Human : WHat tHE HeLl , MAn
This is funnily coincide with China recent lifting of the ban of U.S. beef, while the U.S. allows import chicken from China. I think this video promoted an economic and beef production agenda instead as a promotion of animal welfare .
Exactly Yiran He this is all about the parasites at the top and what's best for them. We're just easily programmed 'consumers' to them. Take yourselves out of this damn food chain.
Start funding research into lab-grown meat now, and in fifty years you won't have to choose between eating meat and the ethical dilemma of eating sentient organisms. We're going to have to develop this technology at some point anyway if we ever want to try colonizing the moon or Mars in the future. Lab-grown meat...tell your friends.
This this this! Not only would this have some awesome implications in medicine, but you would be able to grow meat the way you like it. Marbled, lean, etc.
Until then peoples limit your meat intake and shop local if veganism isn't an option for you.
It's already invented. Look it up. Stem cell meat
ok then put it onto the store shelves across the world
ancalyme but it's not perfectly stable, or completely safe, it's gonna take some time, plus just killing an animal is way cheaper
eew I wouldn't buy lab-grown meat sounds disgusting
Seriously Vox, this video is a massive stain on your channel/reputation. The premise that people should just not eat chicken, ignores every other reason people don't want to eat meat, and implies that simply the number of animal lives is important or what people care about.
Then almost all the statistics and inferences in this are misleading, out-dated, or wrong. The statistics about how many vegans/vegetarians currently exist in the US is almost a decade old. The graph shown at the end CLEARLY shows a change in the trend right before he says "we've been failures at this so far". But I guess he's just going to ignore that, and all the other indicators that show an increase in vegetarian/vegan specific products, acceptance, and culture.
There's nothing wrong with presenting this guys argument, but to not mention the most important issue to millions of people, climate change, at all, is just ridiculous.
I've reduced my meat intake, but when I do eat it, I try to avoid beef and lamb as the highest polluting products. It's extremely small minded to worry about individual chickens, and not worry about climate change which is effecting every creature on earth.
Lets not tell them to stop eating meat, lets tell them to stop eating one kind of meat and instead to support the one leading to environment distruction. BRILLIANT MATE. 10/10
Yeah seriously, kind of makes me not trust this guy since he didn't even address that.
they don't care about enviroment, because feelings are more important to them, so we can safely put them in the same bag as the global warming deniers
I wonder how those chickens would feel underwater or in a hurricane...
Instant Remix Right, stay in your vegan diet and remain weak and be certain that you will perish much sooner.
Normally I would find a comment like this annoying but you worded this in such a brilliantly hilarious way that I just can't be mad at it. Not to mention you somehow got ur point across for dummies like me... Bravo.
Aren't cows like almost equal with cars with the amount of greenhouse gasses they emit? Plus with all the dangers of milk, and the fact that cows are like 1000 times smarter and more emotive than chickens, makes this video hard to internalize
evildevil364 like like like like like like like like like, grow up, milk is great.
Plus there not 1000 times smarter than chickens
evildevil364 which means that unless you grow them right, they dont taste good. And the only way to do that is quite cost intensive which is why there's less cow farms.
Lactoooooseeee intolerancee
cows contribute more to the greenhouse effect than carbon does
i feel guilty when I eat animals
Then why don't you stop eating them?
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I feel happy
I dont,don't, i just eat bread.
Animals don't feel guilty when they eat other animals. That's just how planet earth works.
"people eat meat because everyone around them eat meat"
nah m8, i eat meat because its tasty
@qwert y see unlike most people, idgaf about "moral superiority" as no action is inherently bad nor inherently good. Eating meat doesn't make you weak, refusing to eat meat over some delusional reason that you think makes you the next savior is weakness.
Yeah steak is so good
@@dankmemes3153 that's a rational position. It's just that you have to bite the bullet that murder isn't wrong, and personally it makes it easier to live with myself knowing I don't cause animal death. That's the correct view as far as logic and science is concerned though.
So we should eat the thing that requires more water, more space, and pollutes more.
By space I mean grazing area
No we should eat the animals who aren't abused daily
That's what I was literally about to comment.
ikr wth
I had the exact same thoughts! This dude is a hack
yet eating beef hurts the planet more
not only that there are health problems associated with diets heavy in red meat consumption
The amount of soy and other food cows eat... the land used to plant those etc.. we could feed that to humans. Or use the land to plant things for humans... Like i hate these videos where they don't take every aspect into account. such a flawed report/research. And when people that have no knowledge of the subject see this and believe it, we have a problem as it can spread. False information and fake news articles should almost be illegal in my eyes since they cause nothing but harm to society and our planet!
that isn't the point of the video. the point is that in the chicken industry the chickens are harmed so much more than in the beef industry.
Chickens eat grain and soy too. Cattle can eat grass or silage, and pigs can eat waste food (properly treated).
American Writer there actually is. Go watch cowsperiacy on netflix
You are simply getting hatred by Indian people by saying that
Vishal Mamidi also red meat is bad for the environment. They also made another video on why we should eat chicken.
jeyanthi prabhu oh really? Can you give me source?
mi name jeff
czcams.com/video/nUnJQWO4YJY/video.html
Thx for asking
Why do indians not eat pork? It's not against religion right? Yet I see a lot that only eat chixken/lamb
but I like beef
0:15 someone just goes and grabs some milk right next to them and casually walks away.
If everyone stopped eating chicken then that would cause a higher demand for beef and it would cause more greenhouse gases and there would be a lot more cows which means the animals would get hurt more and more
And it would also put Chinese restaurants out of business. Ever heard of Kung Pau Cow, or Singapore Boar. Sounds terrible
isn't Kung pow chicken a nicer word for dog?
Gillian Spencer you add numbers drop numbers it doesn't freaking matter just eat all of it be thankful and happy
whats wrong with eating dog? people keep chickens as pets and you don't hear them complaining about chicken as food
Beef is not the only other meat in the world.
Here's the hypocritical bit: Cows cause so much more global warming than chicken, so you're gonna kill several more animals in the long run if you're going with this video's view
Exactly. It's just a shame that it doesn't show both sides of the argument since a constructive debate could have been had. :/
oops, forgot to switch accounts when you posted that last comment haha!
Bruh moment
But they farm cows because we eat it
LET ME EAT MY DAMN CHICKEN.
I understood this as a step by step approach to eat less meat a bit at a time. First, you take out one kind of meat from your diet. Then eventually another. I'm trying this tactic to eat less animals so I won't burn out too fast trying to reach my goal.
I didn't stop eating cattle because I care about animals, I did it because the cattle industry is the WORST INDUSTRY WHEN IT COMES TO GREEN HOUSE EMMISSIONS PERIOD!
Really cattle industry is worse than automobile industry? really...?
Global warming is a scam
George Walker you are an unintelligent human
@J - Surprisingly, it is. Methane is much more powerful than CO2, and huge amounts of crops have to be grown to feed cattle (on a per-pound-of-meat basis relative to something like chicken). Cattle are also the main reason why there is so much destruction of the rain forest in the Amazon in South America.
Yes, methane is around 20x worse than co2, being that cows produce methane. The problem is that no major websites dont say anything about the cattle industry due to the money it makes. Cattle causes most rainforest and habitat destruction, and takes around 660 gallons of water for a single pound of beef. You should watch the documentary "cowspiracy".
Let's hurt the environment instead of hurting chickens. Really?
The premise to save chickens is good, but the idea of replacing them with beef and pork is terrible.
Wasthereonce You forgot that...
people are gonna continue to eat beef and pork anyways...
If people eat mostly chicken, some beef and pork mixed in, and then eliminate chicken, they're sure as hell gonna buy more beef and pork.
Wasthereonce well you want to slowly doom out planet or kill all our food..... Opening soda cans releases green house chemicals and no one cares about that.
but you are of the wrongest. you seriously would like to tell me that one cow makes more pollution than 200 chickens. no. simply you're wrong. yes one chicken definitely produces less pollution than 1 cow, but two hundred?? also the fact that chickens are more active means they breath in more oxygen and put out more carbon. Also birds breath more than mammals. so no we aren't hurting the environment by eating more pork and beef. (I'm not a vegetarian but eating less chicken just seems like a good alternative)
Rizu Chan so true
I would agree that the message of “you must become a strict vegan or YOU are the problem” is not going to get the population to eat less meat as effectively as “hey why don’t we all eat a bit less meat, and consider a Vegetarian diet.” If you convince a bigger chunk of the population to move to eat less meat, then you will out do the impact of making a sliver of the population go vegan.
Newspaper Headline: *COWS HAVE GONE INTO HIDING*
THIS IS THE WORST IDEA YET. The amount of rainforest and number of ecosystems destroyed by the beef industry is ridiculous, not to mention their direct impact on global warming. If you truly love animals cut out beef, the space and feed needed to sustain their growth is single handedly destroying huge areas of the most biodiverse places on the planet.
Irving Washington How does beef destroy rainforests?
Deforestation to provide space for farming and/or growing feed for farming :)
C Montague But since when do farmers grow feed or cows in the rainforests?
Flex Seal beef industry. and he already explained.
Irving Washington I work on a cow farm!
The funny thing is most climate change activist will tell you to eat chicken over beef.
Mobius One Because it's better for the environment, your health, and contradictory to this video, better for the animals themselves.
Well if somebody is a climate change activist I would assume they should be vegan to not be hypocritical, right?
This is an excellent point. About ten years ago, Hugh Fernley Whittingstall (a meat eater) launched a televised campaign against factory farming in the UK. Almost overnight, supermarkets began making a very concerted effort to remove battery eggs and promote free range chicken. In a culture that eats a lot of meat such as the UK, you simply aren't going to convince people to go vegetarian, far less vegan (dairy products also make up a big portion of the British diet). This is exacerbated by the aggression with which many vegans put their point across. You're never going to stop people eating meat altogether when that's what they've grown up with but you can make people think about where their meat is coming from and mitigate the levels of suffering involved in the process, even if that makes animal products a wee bit more expensive.
chicken is way cheaper and has way less of an effect on the environment, not to mention red meat has been linked to stuff like cancer, heart disease, etc. Just try to scale back on meat in general if you want to help
The beginning does raise a point for vegans to consider: being rude to meat eaters surprisingly DOESN'T make them go vegan.
Lightscribe225
Yup!
Lightscribe225 saying nothing about it does? U can't silence people and they are only spreading awareness not forcing you
Putting words in my mouth there. That's another thing that won't win you followers. You seem to act like being rude and 'being silenced' are your only options like this is some war. It isn't.
Instead, offer alternatives to wean them off slowly.
Lightscribe225 Or you could realize the severe threat eating animals poses to the environment in regards to vast release of methane gas, deforestation, and contaminated water supplies. I think that they should push people to go towards vegetarianism first as a stepping stone.
Neon Brigador Uh no because then you come across as haughty. Like "I'm totally not part of the problem but you are"; and people will naturally resist if only to spite you. You need both the stick and the carrot.
Humans are stubborn like that.
On the Contrary, do the exact opposite. Cut out other meats and only eat chicken. Chicken uses proportionally less resources and and less C02 gets emitted. A hell of a lot at that. Beef is big and wasteful. If you don't want factory farming then by free range. its that simple. This video emitted such a deciding factor. Agriculture is a huge contributor to Global warming.
There's no thing as free range lol
this is why I stopped eating beef, and frankly I'm kinda disappointed that Vox would publish something like this right after their series on cutting our carbon footprint
+Corn Kopp indeed, this video came across as quite tone deaf.
+Ed Pachomovas I live in Ireland so my situation is perhaps drastically different from yours. I can look out my window and see the chickens cross a road without any exaggeration. lmao If that aint free range i don't know what is.
I was literally about to say this. Ecosystem > Individual lifes.
It's odd how in this video they say to eat more beef and not chicken. Yet in another video, they said that by eating chicken you can reduce your carbon footprint because it takes over 10 times more feed and energy to raise a cow.
I stopped eating all meat during the week and only on weekends allowed myself the choice to satisfy any cravings. It's similar to this man's idea of reducing meat consumption in a way that works for you and which you know you can stick with. If you're worried about fully committing, use a similar kind of rule to cut down meat consumption.
The cruelty angle will never work. People don't even care that HUMANS are treated cruelly, much less a chicken or a pig or a cow. Beef consumption is down because they are learning the effect that farming has on the environment - and beef farming rivals automobiles as the biggest contributor of greenhouse gasses. People care more about changing their personal contributions to climate change than whether or not a chicken is sad.
oggyreidmore that's why veganism reaches so many different people because you don't have to care about animals necessarily to become a vegan you could just be an environmentalist or you could just care about your health and also just happen to be a freak athlete like the ton of sports players who are vegan now and push their bodies at an even higher level compared to their past performances
oggyreidmore this is wrong, have you actually seen people's reactions to discovering how animals are treated?
I think the people hes mentioning are the same people that dont care if their fellow man get beaten let alone their food. People who break down after seeing a chicken thrown across the room are typically the same ones who are more empathetic than their foil'd counterparts.
Eduardoo Crespo Yeah and they forget a day later. And a large amount of people (such as I) really just don't care and have no reaction and no opinion to voice. It's a silent majority situation.
Halcyon 104 it's not about their emotions, it's about a reasonable decision. If you just do it bc it makes you sad it's whatever.
did you ask the cows how they felt about this initiative?
Peter Comedy Videos there's more chickens in the world, so cows lose the vote.
Mooo
Peter's Journey The message is that the vast majority of vegetarians go back eating meat because it’s too hard for them. So he said let’s eat everything except chicken because it’s easier and will have more impact because more people are going to adopt this diet.
MaxInLA, that's not what he said, just that because cows are the largest land farm animal, 1 death feeds more people, by that logic we would be farming elephants or whales, but the problem is YOU DON'T NEED TO KILL ANIMALS TO FEED PEOPLE!!!
Lolllll
I'm about to sound harsh, but cruelty doesn't really matter, our guilt about that is an emotion that has no real effect on anything. The environmental impact of cow and pig farms does matter, and will have long lasting impacts unlike being mean to birds.
Saving animal lives is very important, but deciding to only eat beef and pork will lead to an increase in the average person's carbon footprint. As consumers we must have our priorities straight, save chickens or save the earth. Beef takes 28 times the land and 11 more times the water than chickens. The production of beef releases 5 times the amount of greenhouse gasses that it takes to produce chickens. If you are trying to change your consumer habits, choosing to stop eating beef will lead to a much better outcome than choosing beef over chickens. Even Vox made an article (link below) about decreasing an individual's carbon footprint by decreasing the consumption of meats where it states "Cows, in turn, have a larger impact than pigs or chickens." This is one of the most ridiculous ideas that I have heard as it does not take into consideration the broader environmental impacts that it would lead to.
www.vox.com/2014/7/2/5865109/study-going-vegetarian-could-cut-your-food-carbon-footprint-in-half
Vox has been posting ridiculous articles/videos recently. The article you mentioned published by Vox shows a graph with cheese producing 4 times as much green house gasses compared to chicken. Therefore should we stop eating cheese? Around the time of the 2016 election Vox has taken a approach of promoting false information and has been a platform that supports radical ideologies. The craziest thing is that 18 thousand people thumbs up the video. Thats 18 thousand too many.
Beef is the meat that emits most greenhouse gases though (by quite a margin)
Thisisgaming no.
Indeed, even animals aren't immune to economies of scale.
Thisisgaming Most of the values I've seen are per kg of meat. Chicken is still way less energy/water/land is per kg.
but the amount of food crop that is subsidized for beef production is way bigger for cows because cows take longer to mature than chickens do
Hannah Chou cows are the most energy efficient food source
Can confirm a chicken made this video.
it's their come back to the Chick Fil A ads!
it's the chicken's response to the cows' "Eat Mor Chikin" ads
You're Right! #DONTBECHICKENFUCKERS
He wears a disguise to look like human guys but he's not a man, he's a chicken boo.
But beef is so much worse for the enviroment.
Didn't one of the dozens of people who were involved in this video ever question this mans logic?
Even if you don't want to go vegan, it is likely that you are eating more meat than is prescribed within healthy diet guidelines. Reduce meat intake. That's a real first step.
Brickinasock Yeah but those guide lines are the same bullshit that says you should drink 8 bottles of water a day.
+Darkcaster65 I think that's glasses of water, but what makes that bullshit?
Did you even watch the video he literally explained why that wouldn't work
There had been several studies published that drinking 8 glasses of water a day doesn't really have the health benefits that was originally claimed. The argument was that humans will get their daily water in take in other forms such as in food and water in coffee etc. to stay hydrated. Meaning it doesn't necessarily have to be pure water that should account for the 8 glasses a day. One conclusion of a particular research that sampled 2 groups of people in a span of 2 decades i think, with one group asked to consistently drink 8 glasses of water a day, while the other just normally what they'd consume on a regular basis, states that it did not make the people who drank 8 glasses of water a day necessarily healthier and live longer. :)
@@darkcaster6572 reduces cholesterol
So from a quantitative point of view it's best to not eat chicken.
From an emission/environmental point of view, it's best to not eat beef (by a long shot; methane farts).
And from an ethical point of view it's best to not eat pork because of their intelligence (smarter than dogs).
--> So best to not eat animals at all basically.
No. I like meat
so what's the deal with sheep & goats?
momochan I think that you are confusing vegan food with highly processed food. Those are really expensive. Most vegan food are actually very cheap.
Solution? Lizard.
Pluvia Fang I cannot wait! ))
Look at the dislike to like ratio I’m a vegetarian I’ve been one for two years now have no plan in stopping and I think the reason why people stop is because they aren’t properly educated about what to eat in their daily diet to support themselves I actually plan on going vegan once I turn 18
heyy how'd it go for you, i've been planning on the same
"Vegans act like ideological fanatics."
"The only answer is going vegan!"
You can't make someone half care about an animals life. That misses the point entirely
@@1Rab so make them care a little about the environment.
how much energy does it take to feed, care and process those 200 chickens compared to that one cow? how much energy does it take for the 40 chickens vs the one pig? I know your trying to make a wager against factory farming. but you need to also consider the environment aspect as well. revisit this entire video and discus those points. Now I'm not against vegans/vegetarians but there are ways about this than to completely stop eating meat. Impossible burger for example? Tofu for example? This topic needs to be covered at more angles.
Inconsistent Manner cows are the worst animal for the enviroment
Neither is the imposible burger. The point of my comment is this entire video leaves out a whole ton of information. and they need to revisit. I spent three years arguing daily with a hardcore vegetarian, and probably 100s of hours researching the cost of husbandry and processing. Cows/cattle are immensely inefficient and last time I looked it up took 6 to 8 times the amount of water per pound per year and 4-ish times amount of food per year to feed, compared to chickens and pigs. I don't approve the mistreatment of animals even when they are being raised en mass to be slaughter.
The emissions per pound of chicken is nearly 80% lower than the emissions per pound of beef. I really don't know where these numbers in their statistics have cropped up from, but it probably doesn't take into account the emissions per pound of meat produced.
Source: shrinkthatfootprint.com/food-carbon-footprint-diet
you just taking emissions. not total footprint..
This video is about animal lives not the environment you dumbass
Wouldn't beef production rise?
And cows experience the most cruelty. Humans weren't designed and weren't meant to overpower such a big mammal in the first place.
Ricky
Ricky but less cows would die since just one cow can serve a lot of people
Lizette Fernandez i think arguing that humans aren't meant to do something like that is just wrong. You argue that with animal, not a human. Humans aren't even natural, we sacrificed so much of muscles that we're so weak compared to other animals. We evolved our brains not to be weak , but to be smart and take advantage of what we have. So thats why we kill bigger mammals, because we're smart and know how to make stuff for our advantage,not to be weak and hide from bigger animals.
Hi im just a guy Our intelligence was the compensation for our physical weakness. We became smart so that we could get ourselves out of trouble -- meaning that we don't get killed and eaten, to survive. Being able to outsmart bigger or smaller animals or even hostile environments does not give us the prerogative or licence to dominate nature. If we are indeed intelligent, we will know that we are not meant to be this and remember that we were once like them too. Furthermore, the attitude of "taking advantage of what we have" without having any scruples or moral compass to set boundaries is what is ruining the planet. Capitalists in America alone, for example, are setting the nefarious standards of maximizing profit regardless of whether or not they bring any harm. They do not consider if their customers are further driven into poverty or sickness by their trade, or if deforestation to build or to plant will render homeless other species or make others extinct, or if the lives they raise to slaughter deserve to have a say in the matter.
I have been doing this for 10 years, I didn't know this was a thing! I do it mainly because the amount of meat on a chicken is so little compared to a cow or a pig. But then again, studies show that its better for the environment to eat only chickens (methane gas and the harm of all the food needed for cow's and pigs). So lately I'm not sure what to think...
It’s time we consider farming insects instead
Even though I literally have no idea what they taste like lol
Ppl say they can taste like chips 😳
insects are the future!
Plants and lab meat sounds a bit better tbh.
juzzmo i much love lab meat
Thanaphat Munk Frederiksen We know..but damn we don't want to😂😂
The concept of eating insects is great (high in nutrition, better for environment), but good luck getting people to eat insects.
To be honest things like shrimp, lobster and crab are just giant sea bugs. It's only a matter of time before more people start to welcome and accommodate eating land bugs as well.
So by eating cows we're saving animal lives... seems legit
Apparently cows aren't animals
OhhFree 😂😂😂 this is a rediculous video..
if you have the opportunity to save 200 human lives by sacrificing one human life(i.e. a soldier or a good Samaritan ), you are, in fact, saving human lives.
Cam C Yes but there is a 3rd option... Who would have thought, where you have to kill neither, it's veganism.
Thank you for offering such an easy step! I’ve been looking for ways to be an advocate that does not involve harsh constraints. This is a great way to do that.
Some people are concerned about both climate change and unnecessary suffering. Keep in mind you can avoid both beef and chicken if you choose. The man in the video is vegan. The approach he advocates is meant to try to reduce the amount of suffering in the world, while recognizing the reality that most people don't see a veg diet as feasible right now.
Please do not do this. I am not sure what to call it, but for the last four years I have not eaten mammals (no red meat). I work out a lot so I did not want to cut meat from my diet entirely, but there are many reasons why red meat in particular should be avoided. Here are 5 good reason why this video could not be more wrong:
1) Every pound of beef has a much higher carbon footprint than chicken or fish (or reptile if you are weird).
2) The amount of human consumable plant food that we use to feed mammals could literally end world hunger if reallocated. Though this would be a huge distribution challenge, ending world hunger is worth the effort.
3) Mammal brains are extremely similar to our own. Birds still possess reptilian type brains meaning they lack certain lobes that all mammals have. While I still have some moral dilemma eating anything with consciousness, I feel that non-mammals are measurably less conscious (please do not take this as any kind of justification for the horrible and inhumane practices of chicken farming. That must be fixed).
4) Red meat is surprisingly bad for you. The results of The China Study, the largest study on the human diet ever conducted, showed many strong indicators that red meat in particular is perilous to your health. Watch the documentary Forks Over Knives for more details.
5) Beef subsidies in the US are ridiculous. There is wayyy too much government money going towards beef and it has created an environment where a cheeseburger at McDonalds is cheaper than a clean plant-based meal from the supermarket. The real cost of the burger is much more, but the extensive subsides make it cheaper. This causes the poorest and most vulnerable segments of our population to choose unhealthy foods out of economic necessity, and leads to unmeasurable health costs down the road. Subsidies should be reallocated to healthy foods that lead to a healthy public. Sadly this is not the case (thanks beef lobbyists).
I love beef. A steak with sautéed mushrooms is my favorite meal in the world, but because of the environmental, humanitarian, and economic implications of eating beef I will never have a steak again. I don't think it would be right for Vox to take this down, but a video that challenges this perspective is absolutely necessary.
Most of your points hit the nail on the head (especially your 5th point), but even as a vegan/vegetarian, you can still make "gains" without eating meat because of the vast array of plant protein found in nuts, legumes, seeds, and leafy green veggies that don't come with the nasty baggage of meats and animal products, like high concentrations of cholesterol, unhealthy fats, and carcinogenic elements, and also provide the most healthy, cleansing source of numerous essential vitamins and minerals; just look at Torre Washington, Jordan David (aka, ConsciousMuscle), Jimmy Nas, etc.; all ripped, vegan body builders! Also, less consciousness in an animal shouldn't dictate how much respect they deserve as a sentient being who simply wants to live and not be treated poorly (and from a ethical perspective, not be objectified as commoditized property). I am a new vegan myself but I was in my own dilemma of going vegan for years. I was someone that once claimed that I couldn't-- no, wouldn't live without sushi, shrimp, and chicken, my favorite animal foods. But after researching, especially seeing grueling animal cruelty videos, I decided to get consistent with my morals and ethical stances and transitioned to veganism slowly as a poultry-pescatarian while simultaneously being meticulous in evaluating what I really prioritized in the foods I was no longer eating (their plant based seasonings, sauces, breading, toppings and actually cooking the flesh) and why I was ditching them in the first place (initially just ethical reasons; animal cruelty, and my immense love for all animals, even the ugly ones lol. Now for environmental, health, ethical, and moral reasons). I believe many of your points will resonate far more logically and sensibly to vegans/vegetarians and meat lovers alike when it comes to practicality, especially in the comments of such a flawed video, short sighted video. Thank you for doing your best in not contributing to immense global suffering of animal agriculture! Have a great day : )
Ian Lancaster You do know that you can gain muscle on a vegan diet? Or are you just too lazy to do it?
google "strongest man" and "vegan" and you'll see that it's possible to eat plant based and gain/keep muscle mass easily
The China study was enormous, yes, but its data can be interpreted many different ways. Scientists have come to different conclusions from the same set of data, and many say the meat argument is tenuous at best.
As for the link between read meat and cancer, smoking and alcohol are still much higher risk factors. You'd do better to cut down on those than red meat.
While I agree with all of your points, the China Study is a book based on the China-Cornell project. Majority of the conclusions derived from the book have not been published in peer reviewed literature.
Maybe instead of going for full-time vegetarian or vegan they should focus on convincing people to do a vegetarian/vegan diet 1-2 days a week. Not big deal. I am not going to 'convert' myself into vegan-vegetarian but during summers when there is a lot of local and cheap veggies/fruits I do a vegetarian week every month for 3-4 moths. I was really surprised that this diet could be tasty and easy. I recommend to try it from time to time.
Dominik Gadecki +
Dominik Gadecki ur like one of them people that go up to me and are like I was once a vegetarian too for 3 days straight....
good for you! it's soo good for your body, even if you just do it for a little while
I know; substituting chocolate for meat is such a great idea.
Dominik Gadecki or a meat quota like limitin the amount of meat you eat in a day rather than getting rid of it from your diet
Yep he went to the hood one day..
And saw something he never experienced in his life..
A bunch of people eating chicken..
He freaked out..
He went home..
And made this video
One of the challenge to vegetarianism is fear of being seen as a weirdo, to be not invited to events and become an outsider. It doesn't matter that not eating animal is right, the problem is that it's not cool, it's not socially accepted.
Another problem is that sometimes, a behavior is a group's identity, e.g. a group of friend's commonality is that they all like to gamble, or a family always like to gossip about their neighbor at the dinner table), and if a behavior or addiction is removed from them, they won't know what to talk about with each other anymore, they will have less in common, so that triggers another fear
Be vegetarian/vegan in secret and eat meat occasionally with people.
NO! Beef is terrible for the environment. Carbon costs are huge. Come on, Vox; this is ignorant.
Gp Pa Although you are correct, this guy is more concerned about animal cruelty than the environment.
Any CO2 produced by animal waste is first taken out of the air by plants (mostly corn), thus making animal waste carbon neutral.
someone who actually speaks science rather than complete nonsense.
Being worried about animals is one of the dumbest things ever. Our society is based on peace among humans, and I will never stop eating meat.
+Zack Toor Cows are not classified as carbon neutral. Land must be cleared to make room for these big animals, and clearing trees from an area does not make animal husbandry carbon neutral since less plants will be in the area to uptake the carbon. I don't think CO2 is the greatest emission concern of livestock rearing. Methane has a greater warming potential than CO2 does, and cows release far more than chickens do. Methane's warming potential is 72 times greater than CO2. Although methane lasts much shorter than CO2 does, the EPA adjusts its potency is 25 times worse than CO2.
I wonder what Vox's climate lab thinks of this video?
Shavindra Jayasekera LOL
Shavindra Jayasekera hey , were the comments comments that denounced this , taken down ?
Sadly, I think they were taken down by Vox - there were some comments with over 1000 likes highlighting the clear hypocrisy of this video but now they aren't here anymore.
Cows are frankly terrible for the environment and this video is a slap in the face to those who want less deforestation, less greenhouse gases and more sustainable agriculture. Switching to chicken is the better alternative.
Shavindra Jayasekera i think the leading comment was taken down almost inmediatly , and the frontrunner some hours later
Diego Antonio Rosario Palomino When I log out, I can't find this comment thread anywhere so I'm assuming they've taken it down too.
I had this concept a long time before I heard this video. Beef has a much more of a meat taste than chicken or fish so I can go longer without eating meat. I worked out that I eat 300g of free range grass fed beef a week (this is an over estimation). I have a very small amount 1 or 2 times a week. This equals 15kg of meat a year. This is not even one animal compared to about 10 or more chickens if I was only eating chickens. Furthermore, in Australia, cattle are treated better than any other animal and the least likely to be factory farmed. I have given up milk and eggs. I know I cause less cruelty than if I was a standard vegetarian who ate milk and eggs but no meat. I find this diet very easy to stick to. It has been so much easier to gradually reduce my meat intake than falling on and off in veganism. Even if people just replaced the chicken they ate with beef- yes beef production would rise, but less factory farming and less lives would be lost. When you cant talk your friends into going vegan, encouraging them to always at least choose beef instead of chicken or pork will always result in LESS suffering which is better than nothing. This also increases awareness- people think about their food more- it is more likely to lead to someone going vegan.
Why not just stop eating meat and save all 3 instead of 2.
You probably didn't listen. It is simply not possible for everyone to turn vegan or vegetarian. It is not feasible and is difficult for most.
This may sound naive, but if people cut all chicken out of their diet, wouldn't the livestock production corporations just increase the amount of cows and pigs they inhumanly raise and slaughter to make up for the lack chicken?
Erza Swenson Well we wouldn't know, because of how crappy this video is, would we?
Chickens are each about 3 pounds of meat, so you'd have to eat several hundred chickens to equal 1 single cow. That's why it saves hundreds of lives overall since you're likely to eat the same total pounds of meat regardless of type of meat. You could also eat male sheep as an alternative and they make great natural lawnmowers too.
yes, but it'd take fewer lives to replace the chickens. like swap 40 chickens for a pig & 200 for a cow. i think this is dangerous because beef production contributes a bunch to climate change, but still.
nice point about sheep being an option.
Liberty Springs How about fish? They're the healthiest and I think they provide less meat compared to even chicken. Chicken is much healthier than any red meat. I know that he's trying to kill less animals or whatever, but I think we've at least given the chicken good shelter and good food while they're still alive. Also, I think the killing is fast and perhaps less painful than the more "natural" way. Therefore, they live happily in their short lives of just a month.
011azr overfishing has been a concern for at least a decade to the point that a bunch of fish species are endangered.
I think this video should not tell you to stop eating chicken, but rather add some veggies to your diet. I am not a vegan nor a vegetarian but I enjoy vegan and vegetarian food and I think that's the point. To enjoy the variety of food which does not have meat in it. In the history, meat was quite rare to obtain and now it is the opposite, hard to get food without meat.
It would be better to replace meat with veggies, not just add them in. Its not recommended to over eat, even if its vegetables.
Dream Digital I agree. I am in the same boat as you. Adding new veggies make things more interesting!
its not about enjoying it . its about ethics...
Doll Bun Ok I'm a little late to the conversation but I always thought vegan activism should be about making more people go vegan. But you cannot expect that everyone will do it for the same reasons. So I think the part of making people understand that they can enjoy food that is cruelty free is an important part in making the world a better place. It's a transformation. Even if we cannot persuade more people into being vegans, even the reduction of the average meat consumption per capita is already a huge step and from my experience a more successful strategy than shaming people for their ethics for not being fully vegan.
I totally agree with u and im in the same boat as u. I grew up not eating so much meat regularly. People dont have to go completely vegan, just replace a significant amount of animal products with veggies and fruits and roots, seeds nuts grains etc. People will include spinach into the name of a dish if there is a little bit of spinach and a ton of cheese, cream, salt, butter, white pasta, more cheese, eggs etc in it...
This guy just celebrated his 30th birthday.
Chick fil a tells me to eat more chicken so I have to listen to them
beef is wayyyyy worse for the environment!!! oh my god do not do this
But chickens cause less environmental damage
But plants cause even less environmental damage.
I won't deny that but, if you are talking to someone who doesn't want to quit meat all together but might take a small step to help fight the effects of climate change, chicken is the better option.
What about fish??
fish are also better for the environment than red meat as far as I understand
sooyoungfanclub the thing about fish is that our waters are so polluted, especially in typical fish farms, that fish isn't very good for you anymore. Fish absorb the pollution in the water in to their bodies and then pass it on to whoever eats it. you can actually get really sick if you eat too much fish.
We eat grains and plant foods to supplement our meat diet. Over the years were slightly shifting to eating meat just to supplement our grains and plant food diets.
I believe its more of a cultural habit as he said. And he's right, imposing your ideals on others just makes it worse and increases people's defensive behavior.
Setting up huge expectations is worse cause foodies will just back down.
Cutting down on meat and offering a substitute is probably the best solution. I recently came to realise that I eat more grains than meat...something like 2 meals a month. And I don't do it intentionally it just happens, why? I grew up in a Kenyan household and my cultural cuisines is mostly veggies and grains because my tribe's cuisines are just similar.
I'm not vegetarian, vegan etc. I don't particularly like the idea of animals being mistreated but the simple fact is...that's an empathy question. And it's harder to condition people's habits around empathy. Its delusional to think that its going to just happen once.
And there's also another dilemma.
Let's imagine a society which has completely turned vegan. What happens to the domesticated animals? Will they be returned to the wild? Will they be integrated as pets? Will the remaining ones be extinguished? As much as we want to deny it, humans domesticated animals to be subservient to us. It will be even harder to find their purposeful value other than the ones we've ingrained in our society and economic ventures. Someone should really look into this.
If we just make the habit of cutting down on our consumption by the end of the day an animals life will be saved. Isn't that the goal?
I was vegetarian and later vegan for almost a decade, but for ecological reasons. Since resuming animal protein, I've limited myself to poultry and eggs based on what I've read about their efficiency. This video doesn't even try to address those concerns.
I STRONGLY disagree, eat chicken not beef! Beef is very polluting and bad for the environment. Big, inefficient cows are very damaging! Chicken on the other hand is a much better food for the environment!
If you want a proper sustainable and environmentally friendly option eat free range chickens
yes but the chickens are tortured and its not fair. They should always be able to see sunlight and enjoy their lives before dieing. Now its just they get kicked, injected with grown hormones and its really sad because most of them die bc their muscles are too big
PowerStudios1000 The human population demands factory farms. Actual open range animal farms can not feed 10 billion+ people in the world.
We'd need 4 earth's if everyone ate like an American.
Economics will force everyone to be vegan eventually.
All animals are tortured, we literally breed animals to later kill and consume them. I'm not vegetarian but I've cut back on my meat consumption.
They're just chickens, memeium. The only reason I advocate for better treatment of animals in farms is because, and to the extent to which, it improves the quality of the meat. Not for the sake of some unevolved bird.
But how am I supposed to face the cows out Chick fil-A?
I don't think anyone has actually understood his argument, he's saying to reduce meat consumption not replace it, and fewer deaths is beneficial
I find it strange that 0.5% of the population is vegan, but 80% of YT commenters are stating veganism. Something's not right...
This is the first Vox video that I dislike
You obviously do not watch enough of them :) They are liberal propaganda for the most part.
ArtisanTony You can't look away from the "propoganda" can you?
Like a car wreck.
I dislike all of the communist vox videos.
George Walker communist vox videos?
Actually the best animal to eat is deer and elk. The United States is heavily overpopulated by the species because we all but made their natural predator almost extinct, the North American Wolf. If we made cattle farms out of deer and elk, they're nearly as big as cows, the meat is much healthier, and their C02 levels are nearly non existent so it's much better on the environment.
feral hogs and wild boars?
Bradley Appleby Do they sell that sort of meat in the US tho? Never seen it when i go to pick up those ribs from the meat aisle
but deer are cuddly, people will never go for it
ab Smokes In rural areas sometimes. It's mostly hunted by consumers themselves tho.
people wont go for it because most of the people havent eaten deer or elk
The Problem is that:
"Chicken at 518 gallons of water per pound. Beef requires the most water, at 1,847 gal./lb., followed by sheep at 1,248 gal./lb. and pork at 718 gal./lb. If you’re going to eat meat, go with chicken. Better yet try eggs, which take 395 gal./lb., or plant based protein. For dairy products, cheese and butter take more than milk at 381 gal./lb. and 665 gal./lb. respectively. Milk by itself uses only 122 gallons of water per pound." www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/13/food-water-footprint_n_5952862.html
That means that eating beef is a waste of water which is for me more important than less animals beeing killed.
I know that you dont care that animals die, i know that bc you probally eat meat, so pls eat chicken instead of beef, not the other way around.
Ps: www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/the_green_lantern/2009/04/the_kindest_cut.html (turkey and chicken is better than red meat)
is the likes / dislikes thingy broken?? this is a rly good video and very unbiased and informative??? r u guys ok???
What? R u kidding me? Beef is wayyyy worse than chicken
Oh this is about animal suffering. That's a stupid reason for veganism. If you care about the environment you should not eat beef and should replace it with chicken
Did you watch the entire video?
peaches he's just tying to be edgy.
peaches Yes I have. It's not good but it's no where near as concerning as the environmental impact of animal agriculture. I am a vegetarian (basically vegan but eat dairy or eggs occasionally) because I understand the incredible amount of resources animal ag uses. The amount of land and water it needs. It's CO2 and CH4 output. It's contribution to climate change, deforestation, species destruction, and water pollution. These issues far outweigh the "suffering" of any individual bird or cow. And no, Salty Pasta, I'm not trying to be edgy. I said this because I also know that chicken is a far less detrimental meat to raise in terms of the things I mentioned above. Beef loses in every area, land, water, CO2, etc. per calorie. And as far as factory farming goes, it is more efficient than alternative farming in all above categories. If animal ag must exist, it should be mostly in factory farming for that reason anyway.
***** That is actually a very good idea.
Little does he mention, chickens need only the fraction of the time to mature that a pig or a cow needs. Eating chicken not only saves time, but also valuable resources like water. Out of all of the major meats, chicken is by far the most sustainable for the environment
Tucker Ecke yeah for real cows and pigs take more energy to raise than chickens. Also cattle and pigs make a ridiculous amount of manure that pollutes nearby streams and ponds. It is better to cut out mammals instead of birds
***** I also don't know many places that serve rabbit. While you're definitely right that it's the most sustainable, it's not realistic because rabbit just isn't common on the market
Clorox Bleach its a pain in the ass to butcher compared to chickens though which is why the US developed a chicken industry instead of a rabbit industry
Unfortunately the problem with this is that beef pound-for-pound pollutes 10 times more then chicken
The overall message is that the vast majority of vegetarians go back eating meat because it’s too hard for them. So he said let’s eat everything except chicken because it’s easier and will have more impact because more people are going to adopt this diet.
You can't push being environmentally friendly and then have THIS video. That's so hypocritical.
As an economic student,the idea of not eating meat to save the planet is folly.Plants and other non-meat products cost more to produce,taking up a higher portion of the factors of production (eg land,labour,capital) while having a high price elasticity of demand and supply.The carbon footprint of produce is also higher.In some places of the world,where produce cannot be grown,they have to be flown or shipped in.Lastly,the chemicals used in farming is worse then manure from a cow,doing more damage.(In addition,going organic is worse for the planet since you are producing goods at the worst possible efficiency,wasting resources at the same time) There is a reason meat is cheap.Meat can be produced in more places in the world,meaning less carbon footprint moving it around.
Lee Yenkai no
You're saying it's more expensive to grow plants than it is to grow 10 times as many plants and feed them to animals? I would like to know which school you're studying economics at so I never make the mistake of studying there....
Yeah sorry, just because you threw in some high-school level economics jargon, doesn't make it true. "Plants cost more to produce." Don't you know animals eat plants? And assuming you're in high school and take biology, you'd know that every step up the food chain results in an estimated 90% of energy lost during transfer. This means it requires 10x the energy to produce a portion of meat that would provide the same energy as a portion of plant food.
Sound logic, especially the argument, how all that you say applies to animal feed. Great job! :D
This video ignored that a lot of people are vegan/vegetarian for environmental reasons. And cattle is WAY worse than chicken for the environment, because cows release methane, demand a lot of nutrients, and contribute to deforestation.
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Depends on the perspective - animal welfare or resource depletion?
Poultry production uses less resources than beef production. Less feed, less land, less water, less pesticides, less greenhouse has emissions.
By all means, if you're promoting beef, can you add pasture-fed?
I️ see a lot of pretentious vegans in the comments preaching like they’re better than people who eat meat. I️ think that they missed to point of the video entirely: they shouldn’t go around yelling at people who eat meat. News flash vegans: if you think you’re better than people who eat meat, you’re not.
I agree! The vegans who yell at people and claim they're doing "activism" are accomplishing absolutely nothing.
@@ledgerdravenvgcp2732 Actually they are, but quite small overall.
let's get that lab grown meat on the fast track it's the only realistic and complete solution
I would not be surprised if vegans say that has feelings too.
Vegans are not against lab based meat (given that involved NO animal suffering) we just don't see why people can't make dietary changes now given that there are a lots of delicious mock meats out there already, and lab based meats will probably take decades to perfect . -__________-
I've tried mock meats on a lark, and even 'tolerable' is generous.
I bet you haven't tried all mock meats before, it is unlikely that they all taste bad. And remember that not all "real" meat tastes great either. Also your knowing beforehand that they are vegan may change your perception of its taste.
50Shadesof Kale my reason is the same Argument for drunk driving and self driving cars. I know people and they are just too selfish to make the right decision so if you want to realistically end end animal suffering or drunk driving you have to eliminate the possibility in the first place. I've had veggie burgers they are pretty good
I came to this video just to comment how awful for the environment it is to eat beef but it looks like that has been covered. Stay woke!
You had a good argument but then you said "stay woke" and you sounded like a self righteous douche
Methane produced by cows is superceeded(?) by that of termites and rice paddies, respectively. Try again
Same here
mmmmm i could really go for a nice big juicy t-bone steak right now!!!!!! (insert homer simpson drooling sound here)
Lol
What about the fact that cattle produce more greenhouse gases than chickens? Chickens are also more efficient in creating meat, meaning your feed them less for more meat resulting in less land needed for cash crops that humans aren't eating. I agree that people should be encouraged to lower meat consumption but I don't think that cutting out poultry is the best response.
Great point about removing fanatacism. Promoting beef/ pork inherently flawed in two aspects. Firstly doesn't consider that cows and pigs are more intelligent than chickens which is important in regards to questioning can they suffer. Secondly beef has a far, far higher environmental impact.
The only good thing about this video is seeing how many people actually care about the environment in the comments...
Taylor Burman lol you can say that again.
Taylor Burman That's not really the case... Most are arguing that choosing beef would have a bigger impact on the environment... ie, methane etc etc
Exactly! I'm happy to see people in the comments talking about the negative impacts of increased beef production on the environment
well how about growing meat in lab. i mean from stem cells, and we need to research how to mass produce it from stem cell. so the price might go down with little work and "probably" have less impact to environment
PeekA Boo those meats are being developed, they're just too expensive for mass consumption at the moment. hopefully soon!
Best comment section EVER
Eww It's Him I don't have a horse on either side of the fight. I'm just here for the viewing party.
Ikr?
Makes video about how vegans have failed at popularising themselves. Vegans show up to prove him right.
Alkenrinnstet exactly! Proved his point and they don’t even realize it!! 😂
Eww It's Him. Ikr
What!? I didn't eat meat because of those around me, I eat meat cause it taste amazing.
beef has the greatest carbon emmissions though
This is where environmentalists and animal rights activists clash. Beef produces exponentially more greenhouse gas than poultry. The animals or the planet? I personally choose the latter
RunningRugby4 Cows are more intelligent than chickens. This isn't even about the animals themselves; this is about NUMBERS. It's not even more ethical.
How about we eat neither? Guys, not eating meat isn't that hard. I understand complaints about veganism, it can be difficult at times. But vegetarianism? Every restaurant I've been to, whether in the US, France, Belgium, Netherlands, Russia, or Guatemala (where I am currently) has plenty of vegetarian options. Maybe not vegan, but if everyone went vegetarian we would already save tons of animals and the planet.
RunningRugby4 there is no clash .... this video is just stupid.... the main reason I'm vegan is for environmental reasons.... Never have i heard of something so stupid as this
Or both, you could save both, you'd just have to get people to undergo a very mild inconvenience, but nah, let's stick with the dichotomy thing.
RunningRugby4 even a whole massive herd of cattle is but a speck of sand on the planet. Their farts arent doing anything to affect global warming. The thought of it is absolutely breathtakingly stupid. Even the whole massive city of New York is but a grain of sand on the planet. Global Warming happens mostly regionally due to GeoEngineering or Chemtrailing. Its been going on since the 1950's and has ramped up massively over the last 2 decades. I can sit blindfolded in the sun and tell you when they pass between me and the sun. I feel the difference easily. These people have no obligation to tell you the truth.
"Vee-jans or ve-jans whatever they call themselves" 😂
what an idiot lmao
PF Footage seems somewhat old so not knowing how to pronounce it not as much of a shocker.
Bourdain at his dickish peak. He's mellowed out since.
Lana thats what you call someone when you are angry cuz someone else is.messing up your $ income
The problem with this is that beef production may rise and the carbon footprint of the production will definitely increase along with air pollution.
Before we talk about not eating chicken and all, the first thing to do is how we reduced wasted food