Japan's rising right-wing nationalism
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Like many nations, Japan is undergoing a surge in right-wing nationalism, the brand of nationalism that is skeptical of globalization and outsiders. But while Japan's nationalism looks similar to other right-wing movements in the West, when you look under the surface, you see a totally different story.
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What do you mean by 'rising?' There's nothing new about nationalism in Japan. This isn't rising. This is standard.
Argonnosi Both Germany and Japan were extremely nationalistic, but were nuteured after WWII.
Rising sun? Haha
***** Oh, I was just thinking about what that one writer for "Sound of Waves" said.
@maurice W
Consider that Vox is talking to a target audience of Westerners. He is going to compare situations in Japan to what we are experiencing here to emotionally connect us. What's important is that those of you who do live in Japan and understands what goes on there comment to clear things up or even debunk parts of the video. Personally, this is why I look through comments, because I know for sure the whole story can not be told in a 7 minute video.
I'm part Japanese and they believe they are descendants of gods and everybody else is just a forgeigner.
Germany: admits what they did was wrong.
Japan: *“The only thing we did wrong is lose.”*
and they will be doing that again in the future
USA: We did nothing wrong and we can nuke you for saying we did.
@@ranelgallardo7031 Actually, in the US, we are taught about the Japanese internment camps, slavery and treatment of Natives. So the US is pretty aware of much of its past.
@@SirWally-jm6cn ikr almost nobody in America or even in the whole world doesn't know about the bombings
Based and proud Japan
3:23
"""Children from other countries can confindently and proudly boast about their history. But Japanese children cannot."""
German children: _sip tea_
Are you German?
Germany has done a good job at educating their youth about the atrocities committed and put up memorials.
While I’m proud to wear a Dirndl I don’t ignore the horrors that happened
@@ariana_208 I'm Austrian, but yeah
I just found that quote too funny bc it doesn't really apply to Germany, there is a more nuanced picture of their own history there.
Dutch, British, French, Spanish, Portuguese, and Mongolian children: 👁👄👁
No one can boast about their history. Every country has their bad rap of history.
German history doesnt limit to WW2
Politicians : "What will our children tell others about our history"
Childrens : skips history in school
Pretend I didn't hear that.
It’s the parents not school
@@Rayquazy lol I meant the parents think what would their children be taught in school (about history) and the kids literally don't care about it.
A Turtle doesn't approve skipping history in school
Republic of Ireland confirmed
Nationalism in Japan is not rising. Westerners just figured out it nowadays.
Yeah, everyone has nationalism. Your country too, Korean. I traveled your country, but some people spit on my shoes. Everyone has a ethical prejudice.
"...just figured it out..."
YOU'RE WELCOME! OK.
@@tonpeistudyaccount8081 Because wanting a homeland and self-determination for their ethnic group always means those people are prejudiced
or maybe vox just made a video on it that didn't get enough traction to convince an entire country but there were other sources that mostly said what they said, so really all that happened was that Vox made the information slightly more common, and nothing else.
tree fiddy It does if they don’t accept the people that want to see their culture and experience the country.
*People who studied WW2 read title*
"Hey, hey, I've seen this one!"
World War 3 is coming to your theatre soon...
The final installment to the World War series will be very nuclear if I believe so, containing the worlds superpowers in a economic and ideological battle, including the USA, Russia, China, France, Canada, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Britian Along with possibly Germany, Poland, Japan, Spain, Brazil, Argentina, and Ukraine.
@@achannel6664 I agree with you. It's going to basically be U.S. vs China. With all the countries of the world choosing sides... Much of the indo pacific will ally with the US... I think China will find a handful of allies in the middle east.
But so far it does not seem like Russia is really having strong relations with China right now.
I'd say U.S Russia relations are about as strong as China Russia relations, so what Russia decides to do will be very key. Who knows maybe they will try to not get involved.
Love the back to the future reference 🤣
@@taiyoctopus2958 China: Pakistan, Middle East, most African nations receiving Chinese economic aid right now, North Korea, South Korea if Japan decided to stand with the United States because they hate the Japanese the most. European Union will dismantle and the Eastern countries stand with China. Russia (they are not super close with China but if Trump is not in office I think they still like the Chinese more)
US: The entire Americas, Western Europe and certainly Britain. Former French and British colonies who are still loyal such as Australia, New Zealand, India and a ton in Africa.
Did I miss anyone?
@@taiyoctopus2958 Indonesia will try to be neutral but we will fight if we have to
America: these Japanese are rewriting history
Also America: the Native Americans and pilgrims sat down and peacefully celebrated the first thanksgiving and everyone lived happily ever after.
America: let's celebrate this Union General who committed war crimes in the South, against the Indian tribes, and who didn't believe that black people were equal
Do you have an elementary level of education? The atrocities on the natives are taught to every student above the age of 12. Please do not compare the two countries.
@@lemmino1846 Thanksgiving predates the colony of Plymouth, Columbus day is about the discovery of the Americas. Washington state wasn't named after George Washington for the slaves he owned, it was for his efforts in freeing the thirteen colonies from Britain, and being the first US president.
@@kamrynturner5232 EUROPEANS ON STOLEN LANDS
@@checkmate885 it’s actually easy do to so..... the things that have happened in Hawai’i, and that’s not like 70 years ago it’s happened recently
"Children from other countries can confidently and proudly boast about their history" - me as a german child ... i don't think so...
well most of us can..
Me, an Italian: "Silently eating pizza"
Well, you can't boast about *that* part. The Japanese should understand that history doesn't have to be perfect to be worth appreciating. You can still be proud of the time before Germany was taken over by radicals, and proud of your ability to admit that your history is not perfect. Some people live in denial of the blemishes on their countrys' histories.
@@Horseshoecrabwarrior we need more people like you
You should be proud of "H". Look at Palestine now.
"Rising." These guys have been around for a long time. This kind of nationalism seems to be at least casually related to aging populations.
For context, this is just a rebranding of the ultranationalist party iirc
The video itself isn't really about a new change. The title is just somewhat clickbait.
There's nothing wrong with nationalism.
SlayerTheGamer You're foolish.
Nationalism is the core of the Enlightenment’s notion of liberal democracy. It asserts that the multinational dynasties that ruled autocratically denied basic human rights. Among these was the right to national self-determination and the right of citizens to decide what was in the national interest.
How is that destructive? Or maybe it is just destructive to... you westerners?
The Nanking thing was brushed over in the text even in 2008. I was told their WWII was minimal too, the new one seem more detailed, at least regarding Japanese military battles. Trying to play up the martial glory.
Germany: We did the worst atrocities in human history
Japan: A R E Y O U S U R E A B O U T T H A T
an actual rat 😂 tru
North Korea: hold my beer
USSR: Hold my non-existent food.
Wait don’t forget Portuguese and Spanish.
@Stephen Jenkins the word holocaust means burnt offering. They were sacrificed. Have you considered doing the math on the alleged incident.
When my brother visited while I was living in Tokyo we were sitting outside the train station having a snack one day and one of those nationalist vans parked nearby and starting playing loud music and making speeches on the loud speakers. What was really touching to me was the number of people who came up to us (young and old) to apologize and to tell us that they weren’t representative of most Japanese people. They were very worried that we’d feel unwelcome and really went out of their way to say that they were happy we were there. It was a really interesting experience and had a very lasting effect on me.
Japanese people really have my complete and total respect. I love how their entire society is built on respect, and they all feel the need to apologize if something disrupts that respect. Like that van example. They didn't want you to get the wrong impression and they were offended by you seeing that, particularly if you're American given the history. Such great people
あいつらはそれしか趣味がない暇人です、普通の人はうるせぇな…って思ってます。
Japan has been governed by a right-wing government since the end of World War II, this isn't brand new.
Surely you don't know anything about Japanese parties after world war II.... most of them left-wing
@@kddiodox You mean the Liberal Party? Well, they are actually the right-wing party. *Liberal and left-wing are not synonymous for most parts of the world.
@@kddiodox tell me a left wing party which won there?
@@kimyo-jong4035 please say hi to daddy Kim for mr
and that's a good thing
The same way western world doesn't show you about Churchill's man made famines, massacres etc.
Aye... Churchill caused the Bengal Famine claiming 3 million lives. No one says a thing.
Our own books don't teach that.
@@uzzwalkumar253 you are right
@@rembrantwithagrenade171 Due you have a single fact to back that up? Churchill cut off aid to the Bengalese, but what proof do you have he started the famine?
All of you clowns are wrong, watch Knowing Better’s video on “making bad history worse” He didn’t accept wheat from Canada because it would take weeks to ship, he later accepted food from nearer nations and would ask the US for food for bengal
British history books/media make no mention of colonial abuses.
Sad to hear as an American. We don't go over our crimes as much as I would like us to, but we do do it.
At least no one denies it. The japanese nationalist is all about denying any atrocity. Actually they claim they were liberating Asia. Haven't heard that argument about the west colonial period yet.
Steve Y- Have you even read a British history book ? Maybe you should because you would see that you are wrong !
My year 8 history book basically told us that our ancestors were monsters and not to be too proud of our country because we had committed so many atrocities
J 19 if you're really trying to get to specifics to find ways to mitigate colonial abuses, that's morally wrong. From my schooling days the history curriculum makes no mention of the Opium Wars, and neither has British documentary media. You can't try to hide these abuses. Glasgow University has started to contribute reparations but that's still a drop in the bucket. The British Empire will pay some day as that's the rule of the universe. It's simply karma.
Germany is now buffing up their military and Italy’s nationalism is rising. Oh my god the gang is back!!
Germany is relatively still at a far better stage than Every "other nation" is
"Buffing up". Oh yeah definitely has nothing to do with the fact that Russia has armed its border with Estonia and Ukraine (I know Ukraine isn't in NATO but its still worrying, or the fact Germany has been asked to have a bigger military by the EU and NATO because of they're not hitting their 2% GDP for arms. Its really not "Buffing up" its just improving it. Doesn't mean they're becoming nationalist.
@@nickbell4984 it’s a joke
@@Atomic866 Ah okay.
but this time around there are many new players and many gang leaders are going to change.
I am Japanese. I think it's important to include the correct facts in your textbook.
And I pray that the generation educated about the wrong facts will not do the wrong thing.
Since y'all all don't remember history I suggest US drop 2 more bombs on Japan so Japanese will remember it again
@@RakeshSharma-bg3li は？ふざけるのも大概にしろ
It's a classic part of japanese culture though. To brush any bad things under the rug and pretend it never happened. I can't see any of this changing soon until the young people of Japan actually start voting.
@@RakeshSharma-bg3li name checks out.
How street in India hmm??
@@RakeshSharma-bg3li Yo I get that you didn't like what he said but that's fkced up and not cool at all . How would you feel if that happened to your country huh? You could've come up with something else but had to say that . Smh .
History should be accurately recorded, not censored to push a skewed narrative.
Some already does. But how many survived if the bad guy win? Are you seriously think that the victor let the atrocities they done recorded in the history?
@@peacechan4500 I know that the USA would leave out parts of history that incriminate them, such as when US soldiers opened fire on Australian civilians who fought back with rifles from the armoury.
Tell that to America
Lee Hong Jin
History is written by the winners.
Every country. Including the U.S censors some of its history
This idiocy of glorifying the past while ignoring the crimes done is ridiculous.
By all means, of course we shouldn't be BLAMING the current Japanese people for their ancestor's crimes, but they certainly shouldn't be given a free pass to portray Pearl Harbor as a preemptive attack or their invasion and massacres of Asian people as civilizing/liberating missions.
This applies to ALL countries that try to lie about their past.
As an Indonesian I have no problem saying "The invasion of East Timor was unjust and the Indonesian army committed many war crimes". That doesn't mean I am admitting the invasion of East Timor was personally my fault, I simply acknowledge that yes, Indonesia did terrible things. I can still be "nationalist" in that I'd like my country to improve the lives of their people. But at the same time I would be deeply suspicious if we tried to justify any military adventure.
Excessive nationalism can delude people into thinking their country is the most just and righteous in the world.
To be fair it wasn't like Japan just bombed Pearl Harbor for no reason. The U.S. even though they said they were not in the war interfered with trade and what not causing Japan to cause Pearl Harbor.
kvnrthr 1
Only if more people were like you, Idk what happened to humanity but I do know I've become unapologetically misanthropic due to most people's blind ignorance
kvnrthr 1 What you are describing isn't "nationalism" but is instead "patriotism."
The worst kind of propaganda is a mixture of truth and an excessive amount of lies.
they glorify the time of the Meiji Restoration. A country that was run by the aspirations of the Japanese, not by America...
Fun fact: the symbol on the side of the van is the symbol of the fujiwara clan, a clan that became very powerful in the heian period due to them marrying their daughters into the imperial family, thus having influence over future emperors. So these people are important because at least one of them has ties to the fujiwara clan (which still exists even a thousand years later)
I have a feeling that these people are sponsored by said clan, Japanese emperors never really have any power for like for 1500 years.
Chika....
I too think that the specific is rather sponsoring them to do these things...
@@apalahartisebuahnama7684 Meiji Restoration...
thank god i didnt stop reading at “marrying their daughters”
He who hold the pen writes history, seem to write out their sins
You cant erase the thoughts of a nation just by defeating them in a war. They might lose. But they will mostly wont lose their ideologies or thoughts. Its not rising nationalism. Its just regular nationalism they had all the time.
Nationalism isn't something you can keep festering for 80 years by simple inertia. That's four generations or more that have been born, each successive one caring less and less. Why do you think the textbook publishers are all old men? But once you have a president who "somehow" got into power, frequently due to public complacency, then of course with power comes the ability to brainwash a new generation to Japan's former greatness. The next step will be to build a great firewall to eliminate all sources of information that interfere with the established narrative and criminalize political dissidence, just like China.
Aoi Kemono nationalism in China is way different than those affected by hyper capitalist countries
@@samsara5916 modern China is very capitalistic.
@@jon9103 yet they lack many of the drawbacks ie dip into hard conservatism like in us, uk, germany
@@samsara5916 look at how China is treating ethnic minorities, they're no better.
To be honest, I think it is important for people of every country to acknowledge, love, and condemn their history
but they don't have anything to do with it. you can learn out of it, but you can never be proud for it
@@isoinic4575 So the British can't be proud for kickstarting the industrial revolution, or the Russians can't be proud of putting the first man, woman and animal in space, or Americans for putting dozen of men on the moon?
@Jack 793 Chips That's a tutorial on how to make other countries think that you are weak, China is already making fun of the west and actually becoming more and more aggressive because they KNOW that west is becoming weaker
Exactly
But being extreme about it is bad like very bad.
as a Japanese, it's sad that some people can't accept the fact in this way. We shouldn't pretend that the facts didnt exist
be proud Okay
@@emperorshowa8842yeaaa，thank you
Nothing good comes from guilt.
I feel like every country has their own version of history where they were good guys.iam from India ,we had long border dispute with Pakistan and most of the world knows about our rivalry ,we both fought 4 wars against , in which one is declared as win by Indian side (which is resulted in formation of country Bangladesh ) and reasoning three are decided as no victory on both sides as they were ended by some agreement by rest of the world historians but in my history book it is said as we won all four wars and in Pakistani books they show they won all four wars but we left Bangladesh free with international agreement.and both nations celebrate this war victories ,say me which version is right .Winston Churchill is known as hero in brits history but he is villan of our history.the world is living in an rashoman effect.every one knows the world from there nations percpective
@Moisés P no one does. For example Timor leste is oppressed by Australia and Puerto Rico by America
@Moisés P no one does Belgium in Congo, Britain in India, India in Kashmir, Pakistan in Balochistan, France in Algeria. except for some rare countries like Germany in the Holocaust but mostly because they were forced to do.
The difference is who teaches the atrocities to their people and who ignores it and tells people to go back to some ill-advised "golden" past
The glorifying movie on Churchill really annoyed me.
He diverted food from India to feed his soldiers which caused one of the worst famines in world history. ~3 million dead. This just one among his many atrocities.
@@siddharthkhandelwal3161 the soldiers needed it more, because without food, soldiers can’t fight, without soldiers, the war is lost, with a lost war, India, as a colony of Britain would be oppressed and most likely put under japanese imperialist rule, who hated Indian people and thought they were even more inferior than the Chinese. If japan killed hundreds of thousands of Chinese people in Nanking, imagine what they would do to Indians in their cities. Also, it was nearly impossible to ship food to India in ww2 from Australia, Canada, or the US. They would have to ship it through the South China Sea, which was fully controlled by Japan. They couldn’t send it from the west because it would take too long, and not from the east because Japan would seize it and make the famine worse. There are many letters that Churchill wrote that prove he was trying to get other countries who were closer to India to send grain and food. So he was actually not as bad as you say.
@@skyseer5312 no india would be free subash chandra bose made a deal with japan and germany so it was a crime indeed
Japans nationalism isn't on the rise. It's always been like that they live very nationalistic and conservative lives.
Yeah and they do nothing about it. They think they didn’t make their own society.
Some might even say that this is why Japan is succesful...
I mean... I'm sure there are fringe sectors on either side in any nation, thats how it supposed to be, people while gravitate towards where ever they find that feels good for them all along the scale.
smithclone that’s why these countries are very successful. The US and Japan have always been very conservative. Scandinavian countries are the same, but on the opposite side of the spectrum. Both socialism and individualism could lead to successful societies, although I very much prefer individualism. Socialism can also end up becoming very tragic if citizens lose too many rights and the society as a whole becomes too tolerant. A socialist society is also much more costly to maintain and some Scandinavian countries are moving more towards the centre of the political spectrum these days.
nani ?
I don’t know a lot of Korean, but I know that the Koreans in the comment section are not very happy.
Japanese Government are Literal Holocaust Deniers and Nazi's so lol
Lmaooo I’m dead
So many fake news. Japan are innocent unti we have proof.
Just because we have pictures doesn't mean it's true. They could have been CGI.
What do you mean “fake news?” CGI didn’t even exist back during the Japanese Empire’s heyday.
I am very upset that this man doesn’t study well enough about Japanese history. Comfort women?? Agh
“It’s good to teach a country’s past, so that children will not repeat mistakes, but not so that they would hate their nation.”
-A random kid
That kid's wiser than most of y'all
Idk. I kind of think Japan has done more than enough for everyone to hate it.
It's comfy to live here ngl, but I feel a lot of shame that I am one of them. And honestly so should everyone else. It's going to be miserable, but hey, that's life.
Honest question: can you take pride in past achievements and also acknowledge past moral failures? Why is it all or nothing?
I'm sure most sane Japanese people think that way. Or at least I hope.
Of course you can! The problem is that Japan doesn't really teach their past atrocities similar to how American textbooks are starting to try and expunge the dark past of the U.S.
Americans kill more than Thousands of Filipinos during Filipino American War. Were most of it are civilians are that mentioned on your history. Annoying to read it when someone critics Japan while their Country itself commit crimes that been hidden.
Which achivements u r talking about?the killing or the raping, maybe the wars
@@hiroono1 Interesting you would say that. Can I see a source?
This article from Stanford indicates the opposite of what you said.
spice.fsi.stanford.edu/docs/examining_the_japanese_history_textbook_controversies
It's named "textbook", but it's not used in any school. It says "commercially available" in the upper left corner. You can't buy a textbook that is used by schools at a bookstore.
hbk 1001 no it’s not lol. This textbook was rejected by the Ministry of Education in 2020 for having 405 defects.
@@user-ok3gu4vk2u Just because it wasn't approved by the ministry of education doesn't mean it still can't end up in classrooms
Lost In the Dark well yes, but not in public schools.
@@lostinthedark7001 If someone brought it first, yes. But then it can end up in living room, public toilets, the streets, or on a trash can too. When The ministry of education rejects it then that's it. Its done, no one would risk their school to recieve a warning from the government, its bad for the school image.
My father literally talked to me yesterday about how much better the old days of traditionalism, we're Brazilian, this to me just show how worldwide is this feeling that there's something to comeback to...
I can only see how much it damaged the world and set people apart from what makes us one people
The old days were not better to anyone. Idk why ppl think we need to go back to our golden age?
Since thousands of years people talk about the "good old days". Yet society only gets better and better and I am unwilling to believe that anyone really wants to live back in time or understands what that means.
How to enrage the internet:
1. This country did this this and this.
,
True
I know, right? People don't chill lately 😅
I think that's also how you enrage anybody
2. Ignore all the other countries of the world and pretend like this country is the only one hiding their dirt.
Japan has always been nationalistic.
All countries have*
Fixed that for you
@@joseetigerfish2015 Lol no, there are some countries not nationalistic.
@@pretendtheresaname9213 We're waiting. Out with it then.
pretend there's a name
For the majority of history every country/empire was nationalistic
@bad bad mc bad My own country is not nationalistic, Brazil. A massive part of the population would get out in a snap if they could go to any developed country. It has some nationalistic people, mainly at the age of 40 and forward, but they are a minority. Of course, nationalism can rise if the country develops but that would take decades.
tbh "Japan First Party" sounds bit lazy name, they could've put more efforts in selecting the name, something like Nationalist Party of Japan or Sinchan Doremon Union.
Sorry for the joke but name is still lazy.
or ninja hatori dingdingding conferation
@@sanjithsaravanan8469 😂🤣
"Nationaru-Sociarisutu Dai Nihon Teikoku Worukeru Party of Adorufu Hitora" sounds right-wing enough.
@@admiralissimus Germaboos be like.
They could name themselves the "Kuomintang" if you get what Im saying lol
I'm Japanese and I've never seen a textbook used like this. I checked and only 0.05% of schools in Japan use them.
I mean its still more than it needs to be
I’m Japanese too and I’m so sorry for war crime we committed.These protesters are just loyal to their own country.
@@a_girl9821 if I were Japanese, I would probably do the same thing
@@a_girl9821 You don't have to be sorry about the things that happened even before you born.
Thanks guys
I’m japanese and pretty sure 99.999% of japanese citizen don’t know Mr Sakurai.
MitoNaÁrea
Dude, if he doesn’t want to be right wing, don’t force him
MitoNaÁrea no i think someone with racist disease like you can destroy this whole world
@@flavintanovri767 lol you are indonesian. Your country has different laws for different races, you are the last people who should be complaining about other people being racist. Fix the racism in your own country first before complaining about others . does the 1998 indonesian-chinese genocide ring any bells?
catt ya i doesnt ignore that situation yeah we suffering because of that its our racist president faults. Btw i was also chinese descent and i dont have any issues living in indonesia. We loves each other
MitoNaÁrea im sorry if youre getting offended because of my opinion. But you have to know that not every islamic people and western people going to do something like that. Its racist people. Thats why im telling you racist people is the one of the reason why all of this chaos happened
"There is Japanese democracy, with the emperors at the very top" idk i found that funny
It's called a constitutional monarchy. Like Britain ...
@@Luke-eg1gn that's not democracy
@@getdisl7316 that's better.
L infi
Yeah but the queen isn’t at the top, just just there for tradition.
GetDisL neither is America, as CZcams commenters under videos about the electoral college so kindly tell me
The irony is that the Meiji Restoration they see as a golden age was one of the most tumultuous times in Japanese history, and the Emperor faced considerable opposition from traditionalists in Japanese society.
During Meiji era they did have tumultuous times but the same era also had a time when the Japanese able to won against Russian empire at its peak so it does have its own "Golden" era.
@@apalahartisebuahnama7684 I feel like the Post War Economic Miracle (1955-1972) would count more as a golden age because it contributed greatly to how Japan is today
@@useroftheinternet8362私も日本の黄金時代はそこだと思います。WW2以前は軍事費が高すぎて国民は貧しかった。
The content of Japanese textbooks varies considerably from company to company, so it cannot be said to be historical revisionism. The textbook I was using also mentioned the Nanjing Massacre and Unit 731.
However, my high school textbook did not have much description of Japanese war crimes.
After all, there are differences depending on the textbook
I see, it would be better to have one unified history textbook that doesn't just go over Japan and its historic beauty but also it's imperialistic past and atrocities. I hope one day Japanese can brag about their history one day, love from India.
そりゃそんなデタラメな記述が教科書に載る割れないからなw
@@user-qu1de2pd3i世界中が目撃しているのにかい？w
I have more respect for Germany now, at least they acknowledge their mistakes.
They’ll do better next time ;)
We have been taught in the school what our country did and how war is stupid, brutal thing.
Studying about war experience through books or lectures is the important part of Japanese school curriculum.
Most of the educational fields are rather liberal.
Still, we have a bit mixed feeling about no one knows or tries to know about the fact that Japan has officially apologized and paid an indemnity in the past. Maybe the world would not allow Japan to claim about it.
This kind of right wing movement is an extreme case, but Japanese are struggling how to behave.
apologized then refuted once against Japanese public sentiment, then worship the Yasukuni shrine
Think about it... Isnt that the most idealistic political answer to give to 'the people'. Germany is like the Europian America, maximazing potential. At the end of the day Germany is basicly 'CEO of Europe' and they _need_ to lead a 'perfect' example for the rest of the world. Basicly also to cover up for their mistakes in human history.
Germany government never admitted and apologized about WW2. Give me sources.
Unfortunately, you ended the video right when you were getting into the deep analytical aspects of this topic - if Japanese right wing nationalism isn't populism, how does that change its perception by the general public or affect a potential rightward swing by the Japanese which could occur in the coming years? Is their potential right-wing leaning more permanent, more sustainable, or even more valid, because it is fuelled by deep cultural aspects as opposed to an almost escapist fervor as it is in the United States? Or are they similar in the feelings that they create such that the inherent cultural values associated with it don't play much of a role? So many questions this video should have explored.
They fed up "political correctness "by neighbor country.
I presume there is no such gaping ideological chasm on cultural issues between the average Japanese person and their old leaders as there is in Western Europe and especially the US. Thus, you don't get labelled a populist for espousing an identical set of views simply because enough elites support it.
There is nothing especially escapist or exotic about it in the US. The ideological gap has been there for a while, but Republicans were too economically far-right and too afraid of addressing cultural topics to exploit it. Now that they moved to the economic centre, at least rhetorically, culture could take precedence, and the anti-immigrant/anti-PC/anti-sexual revolution majority could finally vote for them.
Yeah, this are deep and important questions. I think the video itself stands as good starting point for such an inquiry. Off course it is not the goal of this format, but I'll be open for information relevant to the topic... an year after the publication. Thanks Johnny Harris.
Gian C What do you expect from a left-leaning cesspool? Deep thought is not their forte.
Japanese right wing nationalism is quite similar to Kemalism.
Few qualities that make them quite similar
- Secular leaning
- Genocide denial
- Pro-authority
- Integration of past figures deep into the culture to never be challenged
- Ethnocentrism
- Language
The ending is basically saying “those ultranationalists are already in the government so it’s ok”
americans : america first !
*japan and other countries try to make the same thing*
also american : no u can't
"Japan is a democracy with an Emperor at the top" Bro the Emperor hasn't been the true seat of power in Japan since the Heian Period 😂😂😂
He’s the head of state which is technically the top. Does he have much power, no but in all technically he is at the top.
Well in Meiji Period the Emperor held lots of power
No he was. Kamakura Restoration and Meiji Restoration.
*coughs in Meiji and Showa*
@@tomnook9270 Don't forget Taisho (boy did it not last long...)
You can't blame for being proud of your country. But if that means changing and erasing shameful history, that is a fanaticism. Same as extreme religious group who will do everything for their lies. You will only be truly proud of your country if you know your country is responsible and not a liar.
I’m not proud of my country. Not because I’m ashamed of it, but because I didn’t choose to be born here, so it’s stupid to be proud of it.
God knows how many of your ancestors died so you can inherit what you have today, that's what it means to be proud of your land, pay some respect.
Pride is something you obtain through hard work and effort on one's own achievements. If you have done nothing for your country, be it contributing to the general well being of the community or somehow leading it so it can become a better place to live, then you have nothing to be proud of. Those ancestors should be proud, you should not; however, you should be knowledgable of the past and apply that knowledge to create a better future, preferably one that focuses on international-mindedness rather than nationalism, hence creating a better world, not so much a better country.
What are you talking about, It's the same way you can be proud of your kids as a parent or a son/daughter that's grown up and you're proud of the way your parents raised you/their accomplishments. Being proud of what your forefathers did and died for so that their way of life/country could be defended etc is something every citizen of every nation should do.
Do not be so ungrateful and disrespectful to your ancestors that you wouldn't even honour all they have done for you, all the spilt blood for future generations. I for one am proud of my ancestors, whether they worked and built up the foundations of our nation or shed their blood for us, no matter if the cause was right or wrong.
But, stenli, the point is, the ones who died might have something to be proud of, but the ones who passively benefited do not. My father taught me not to be proud of anything I myself have not done.
Seriously ? Here is the proof that some people do no want to learn from history. Instead, they're inventing their own ...
I just wanna point out that it IS partially true that the US initially tried to completely demolish patriotic ideas in Japan which still remains today. I was raised in Japan but before moving to the US, I used to think doing something "for the country" was bad. It is a simple logic that most Japanese children make; Since people worked for the country during WWII and WWII was bad, then doing something for the country must be bad. I was shocked when I saw that Americans describing their military as "serving for the country" cause that expression sounded really negative to me.
Doing something for your country is not bad, but following your country blindly and supporting virtually everything they do is bad.
How many japanese people think that ?
This is literally the same as my experience. thx for sharing
@@user-jy5qm8nc9m실제로 일본인들은 매우 착합니다. 일본여행 추천드려요
3:20 I think it's safe to say that in almost all countries.. there are some things to be ashamed about, and others to be proud of .. I don't get why they don't want their history to be criticised in any way .. isn't learning from mistakes a thing?
He asked the culture that invented seppuku
Siddharth Prabhu because they don’t want to end up like Germany; endlessly extorted for overly exaggerated war ‘crimes’
@@JoeHeine Germanies war crimes aren't exaggerated and I resent the implication
Oh, in Japan, shame is on a completely different plain as for the rest of the world. Shame in Japan is tremendously powerful. They will do literally anything to avoid it.
Voted 4 BJP ????☺☺☺☺
일본이 주장 하는 패턴은
1.처음에 사실을 부정한다
2.그리고 다른 나라도 그랬다
3.우리 세대가 저지른 일이 아니다 우리의 조상이 한 일이다
4.일본을 욕하기 전에 당신들 나라의 과거부터 돌아봐라
난징대학살도 없었고 위안부도 강제징용한 사실은 없었다 라고 부정한다
그리고 일본을 욕하기 전에 자신들의 과거부터 돌아보라 말한다
다른 나라들은 자신들의 부끄러운 과거도 교육받을 수 있도록 교과서에 표시하고 있다
사과는 하고 있는지 잘 모르겠지만 적어도 침략의 역사를 부정하고 있지 않다
일본처럼 교과서 내용에서 빼거나 일본이 피해를 받은 것처럼 수정하지 않는다
그리고 사실의 증거를 보여주면 전쟁에서 승리한 나라는 당연히 그런일을 한다 라고 말한다
다른 나라들은 피해를 받은 나라에게 사과하고 재발 방지를 약속하고 있다
일본은 사과를 했다고 주장하지만 아베총리는 한국에게 "죄송합니다"가 아니라 "유감이다" 라고 표현했다
그리고 한국정부에게 분명 돈을 줬다
하지만 당시 박근혜 대통령은 한국 국민들의 동의를 얻어 행동 한 것이 아니다
한국의 무능한 대통령이 자기 마음대로 돈을 받았다 그 점은 한국도 일본에게 할 말이 없다
그런데 돈을 주면서 조항에 있던 말은 불가역적 해결
앞으로 이 얘기를 다시 하고 싶지 않다는 것이다
사람 관계에서 사과는 피해자가 인정 할때까지 라고 생각한다
내가 말하는 사과에 돈은 포함되지 않는다
돈에 관해서는 일본은 줬으니까 앞으로 다시 주지 않아도 된다고 생각한다
올바른 사과의 모습은 독일의 메르켈 총리가 대표적으로 잘 보여주고 있다고 생각한다
그런데 일본은 사과 한번 배상 한번으로 모든 과거를 끝내려고 하고 있다
그렇게 사과 아닌 사과를 하고 나서도 일본에서는 역사를 부정하고 교과서를 날조하는 행동을 하고 있다
일본 국민들은 잘못된 역사를 배우게 하고 있다
일본인에게 묻고 싶다 이게 정말 잘못된 과거 역사를 인정하는 태도이며 피해 받은 사람에게 사과를 하는 태도입니까?
일본에서는 사람을 죽이고 돈 쥐어주면서 "유감이네~"하면서 "나는 돈 줬으니까 다시 이 얘기 하지마" 하면서 뒤에 가서 "죽은 사람은 내가 죽인게 아니다" 주장하는 것과 같다고 생각한다
일본에서 이렇게 행동하고 주장해도 용서 받는 사회입니까?
내가 아는 일본은 그런 사회는 아니라고 생각한다
그리고 요즘 일본 사람들 중 일부는 왜 조상이 저지른 일을 가지고 현재 시대 사람이 피해를 봐야 하느냐 라고 주장하는 일본인들도 있다
듣는 귀를 의심할 정도로 충격적인 말이다
그런 사람에게 한마디 한다면 옛날 일본인들은 전쟁을 일으키고 무고한 사람들을 잔인하게 죽인 범죄를 저질렀다
현재 일본인들은 그런 역사를 왜곡한 죄, 그런 역사를 똑바로 공부하지 않는 죄 , 잘못된 것을 알면서 바로 잡지 않고 있는 또 다른 죄를 짓고 있다
日本が主張するパターンは
1."処音に事実を否定する"
2.そして他の国もそうだった
3."わが世代がやったことではない" 我我の先祖がやったことだ
4."日本を悪口を言う前に,あなたの国の過去から振り向け"
南京大虐殺もなく,慰安婦も強制徴用された事実はなかった"と否定する。
そして,日本に対して悪口をする前に,まず自分たちの過去を振り返れと言う。
他の国々は自分たちの恥ずかしい過去も教育を受けられるように教科書に表示している。
謝罪はしているのかよく分からないが,少なくとも侵略の歴史を否定していない。
日本のように教科書の内容から削除したり,日本が被害を受けたように修正しない。
そして事実の証拠を示せば戦争で勝利した国は当然そういうことをする。
他の国々は被害を受けた国に謝罪し, 再発防止を約束している
日本は謝罪をしたと主張するが,安倍首相は韓国に"すみません"ではなく"遺憾だ"と表現した。
そして韓国政府に必ずお金を渡した
しかし,当時朴槿恵(パク·クンヘ)大統領は,韓国国民の同意を得て行動したわけではない。
"韓国の無能な大統領が,自分の思い通りに金を受け取った" その点は韓国も日本に言い分がない
ところで金を渡しながら条項にあった言葉は不可逆的解決
これからこの話をまたしたくないというのだ。
人の関係で謝罪は被害者が認めるまでだと思う。
私の言うりんごに金は含まれない
お金に関しては日本はあげたからこれから返さなくても良いと思う。
正しい謝罪の姿は,ドイツのメルケル首相が代表的によく見せていると考える。
ところが日本は謝罪の一回賠償ですべての過去を終わらせようとしている。
そんなに謝罪ではなく謝罪をしてからも,日本では歴史を否定して教科書を捏造する行動をしている。
日本国民は誤った歴史を学ばせている
日本人に聞きたい これは,本当に間違った過去の歴史を認める態度であり,被害を受けた人に謝罪する態度ですか。
日本では人を殺して金を握らせながら"残念だね~"と言いながら"私はお金をあげたからまたこの話するな"と言いながら後になって"死んだ人は私が殺したわけではない"と主張するのと同じだと思う。
日本でこんな行動と主張しても許される社会ですか。
私が知っている日本はそんな社会ではないと思う
そして,最近の一部は"なぜ先祖が犯した事を持って,今の時代の人々が被害を受けるのか"と主張する日本人もいる。
聞き耳を疑うほど衝撃的な言葉だ
そんな人に一言言えば昔,日本人は戦争を起こして罪のない人々を残忍に殺した犯罪を犯した。
現在,日本人はそうした歴史を歪曲した罪,そんな歴史を正しく学ばない罪,間違ったことを知っていながら正していない別の罪を犯している。
The pattern that Japan claims to be is
1. At first, I deny the truth.
2. And so did other countries.
3. This is not what our generation did. Our ancestors did it.
4. Before you speak ill of Japanese, look back on your country's past.
The Nanjing Massacre were no Japanese military sexual slavery, forced labor. Admittedly, there is no true.
And they tell me to look back on their past before I speak ill of Japan.
Other countries are teaching their shameful past in textbooks.
I don't know if you're apologizing, but at least you're not denying the history of invasion.
It does not remove textbooks like Japan or modify them as if they were damaged.
And if you show proof of fact, the country that wins the war does that, of course.
Other countries are apologizing to the affected country and promising not to repeat itself.
Japan claims to have apologized, but Prime Minister Abe has described Korea as "regret," not "sorry."
And certainly gave money to the Korean government.
However, Park Geun-hye was president of South Koreans consent not act.
The incompetent president of Korea received the money at his own disposal. There is nothing Korea can say to Japan in that respect.
But what was said in the clause was an irreversible solution.
I don't want to talk about this again in the future.
I think an apology is until the victim admits it.
Money is not included in my apology.
When it comes to money, I think I don't have to give it back because I gave it to Japan.
I think Merkel, the prime minister of Germany, is representative of her apology.
But Japan is trying to end the whole past with an apology.
Even after making such an apology and not an apology, Japan is denying history and fabricating its textbooks.
The Japanese are letting us learn the wrong history.
I want to ask the Japanese. Is this really the attitude of acknowledging the wrong past history and apologizing to the victim?
In Japan, I think it's like killing people and giving them money and saying, "I gave you money, so don't talk about this again." And I think it's like saying, "I didn't kill the dead."
Is it a forgivable society to act and claim in Japan?
I do not think that Japan that I know is such a society.
And now, some Japanese argue that what their ancestors did to the people of the present time should be harmed.
It's shocking enough to doubt the ear.
To say a word to such a person, the Japanese in the past committed crimes that led to war and brutally killed innocent people.
Currently, the Japanese are guilty of distorting such history, not studying it correctly, and of not catching it right away, knowing it was wrong.
와 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ말 잘하신다
좋아요 박고 간다
저도 갑니당 당신은 최고입니다
오석모
How much work and time did this take?
왜 이런 논리적이고 합리적인 말은 반박을 못 할까
中韩友好靠日本哈哈哈(ಡωಡ)hiahiahia
Found so much misunderstanding s, how much u’ve got remuneration for this? lol
4:19 actually Japan’s alliance with Germany was quite unusual, and they had almost no military or economic cooperation so much so that some historians even consider the war in the pacific and the war in Europe to be separate wars.
Why is it always old men pushing this?
Johnwilliam Carroll, because they're relic zealots
because they are behind in terms of way of thinking, actually it would be interesting to see the demographic of popularity of these parties
Because they failed and want to recreate a past in which they succeeded.
It's not them who is gonna die in the wars their politics create...
I'm 17 and want to push nationalism, but it's normal that older people push different political agendas, because guess what, they have more life experience and over all know better than people in my age.
i just want to point out that american textboks are just as biased. our school books have always "skimmed" over all the horrors the US has done ( The Trail of Tears, Interment Camps,etc,) while praisng thing like colonization of america while ignoring the natives we killed in the process. our history books are just as biased as any other country.
I know many american teenagers that don't even know about Dday specifically Omaha beach.
In Canada we often learn about the negatives in are country, at least in Saskachewan. Just a few of the things I learnt in school were how we made the Chinese immigrants build our rail roads, put head taxes on them, mistreatment of First nations, metis and aboriginals aka Native americans, Reservation schools. Here in Canada we often look at the negatives, but unfortunately i feel we don't put enough attention on the good like how we liberated The netherlands
Depends on the textbook.
In AP US History, we used the "American Promise," which depicted a lot of the horrors of the American government onto its own people and to other nations during the Cold War (such as appointed anti-Communist dictators into nations with democratically-elected socialist-sympathetic leaders). It seemed like the only "good" chapter, was on the 1960s, with its civil rights movements and the Great Society (before the Vietnam War, of course).
After much careful thought about the state of nationalism in each country, it seems like only Germans (and some liberal parts of America), own up to their terrible history.
Another example is the Armenian -you get it.Turkish history books won't tell much about that.
Margarita Sytcheva I was just about to tell them “Well you certainly haven’t taken APUSH” but you covered it.
my textbook spoke of everything, the 1 million natives killed and all the killing aswell as the colonialism.
Ok I’m late to this but just a couple of things that Johnny and this video kind of gloss over or is misinterpreted:
- during the Meiji Restoration the empire of Japan really did see a massive shift and economic prosperity in the years after but while the military and navy saw huge funding and support from the government and emperor, in the years after the Korean annexation the regular citizens and people of Japan did not necessarily live in prosperity.
- at the time of the nuclear bombing of Japan, the country was debatably at its lowest, NOT its highest, where the prolonged war in the pacific with the US had reduced its Navy (3rd largest in the world when WW2 started) to mere coastal defence guns and its cities reduced to ash from Allied firebombing and air raids, with the majority of Japanese citizens starving and dying but still unwilling to surrender due to their allegiance to the emperor (then seen as the living god of Japan).
Japan in a nutshell: “The only time I was wrong was when I thought I was wrong”
jokes on you Japan has historically always been like that...
Agreed, funny how Vox looks down on any country that has different values than Obama lol
??? What???
Wait what !? I thought this was trumps fault you must be lying
What? In told in the wrong tense?
True but Japan was taught a lesson in humility after they became the first (and so far only) nation to ever be on the receiving end of a nuke. In the aftermath of WW2 and for several decades, Japan was on the right path - advocating peace, renouncing militarism, promoting harmony and brotherhood between nations, learning forgiveness, etc.
But now that the U.S. has relinquished its leadership position in the world stage, many ultra-nationalists in Japan sense an opportunity to rise again.
Believe me. Nothing good will come out of this.
Why can't they be like America and teach a totally open and honest version of history to its children. Oh wait...
Native American mass murder, what mass murder? sshh.
erzan germ blankets
Idk wtf you are talking about but when i was first taught us history in 8th grade we spent a big unit on westward expansion and a big part of it was the subjugation of natives. Like it isn't covered up at all.
Is it a compulsory topic taught in every state? I'm from the UK and we hear stories about crazy states in the South that fail to teach US children evolution, civil rights and slavery etc. Sorry, just wondering...
Education in the US isn't regulated by the federal government the same way it is in Europe. Its in the very name of the country the United STATES; states are allowed a certain amount of freedom in how they choose to govern themselves. In most cases the states set the education standards rather than the federal government. I dont have the time nor inclination to explain it all to you right now but I am just trying to get across the point that there is a difference between federal law and state laws AND states rights are an integral part of the countries history/culture. If you find this difficult to wrap your head around then keep in mind that most European countries aren't even bigger than Texas (thats just 1 state). Its very unlikely to find an American over the age of 12 who doesnt know about slavery or evolution. It difficult to impossible to avoid the topic of "civil rights" as that is a VERY board topic that in many ways define American culture on the whole. An American child will probably know more about civil rights than you. The exact details about these things, however can vary greatly. There have been some politicians pushing to have certain things excluded or included that would probably shock your UK educations mind but they rarely have substantial success. Regardless of our current reputation Americans place alot of value on education and its one of the few bipartisan issues. I went to a private (VERY conservative) Christian school as a kid and I was still taught evolution, it was just immediately followed by "and this is wrong" but I still needed to understand evolution to function in the real world so we had to learn about it.
それは日本の一部のネット右翼であり、日本人全てではないということだけは理解してほしいです。
The entire subject of the video is about Japan and the commenters still find a way to make it about America
Its just a thing about virtue signaling, it does mirrors back. Besides, the guy also mentioned Donald Trump this.. Donald Trump that.. Of course its gonna get mentioned, he brings it up by himself.
What japan did is wrong but small nations in asia also have thousands of unpleasant history with the allies not just america, so we thought it might be the best time to point that out since the subject we are talking about is regarding the covering of histories and nationalism to see each other real face behind those "Liberators" mask so they are equally revealed.
That’s because people will never shut up about America
@@aldyhabibie9717 but we aren't talking about other countries, we are talking about japan itself. You cannot save yourself by saying "america did this too", genocide is still bad
This comment section is the most depressing thing since my sex life.
Calvin_Coolage You've never seen a comment section in which Americans are talking about French manifestations
+Eyes Green Com'on, don't say that.
Maybe if you agreed with the comments then your sex life would improve.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/02/right-wing-people-more-likely-to-be-happier-with-their-sex-lives/
PianoDreams What part of my post made you assume I'm not right wing?
You said you're not right wing. You said your sex life is depressing. You have low testosterone because you're a pinko.
Something to know about Japan is that a lot of people have no interest in politics and have little to no opinion about it. It's true that these nationalists are in the minority in terms of people who think that way, but they are probably the majority of who's in power because they are they only ones who are so invested in politics.
I only asked a few people, but when I asked my friends and co-workers why Abe keeps getting reelected although people don't like him or agree with him, they all just shrugged and said "the devil you know is better than the devil you don't".
Today's Japanese evaluates politicians by the quality of economic management. Foreign policy will not hurt the regime unless there is a major failure. Prime Minister Abe does a good job in that way.
And many Japanese are not interested in diplomacy with Korea. Since the fact that South Korea's history education having full of fake is recognized by the world's historians, I think it would be wasteful for Japan to cooperate with such a country.
今日の日本人は経済管理の質によって政治家を判断しています。大きな失敗がない限り、外交政策は政権を傷つけません。安倍首相はその意味で良い仕事をしている。
そして、多くの日本人は韓国との外交に興味がありません。韓国の歴史教育はうそに満ちているという事実は世界の歴史家によって認識されているので、日本がそのような国と協力するのは無駄でしょう。
"Korean history education is full of lies"?? Aren't you just proving the point of this video?
うそって、日本の戦争犯罪のことですか。現実的には、人証や物的証拠を基づく世界の一致した意見と「みんながうそつき、私は何もやらなかった！いじめられている！」という責められる国の言い訳の中で、どっちの方が信じやすいですか。
@@marygebbie6611 Read this report by Stanford university.
blog.goo.ne.jp/a3513866z/e/db9751f209fc71f4445e1cf5d635c271
@@marygebbie6611 For instance, Korea and China claims, 200 thousands women were raped as comfort women, or 300 thousands civilians were killed at Nanjin.
The total number of Japanese soldiers were 3 million. If 200 thousands of comfort women worked for 10 soldiers a day, soldiers must sex almost everyday. You must understand war field is not a paradise for young men.
The population of Nanjin just before and after the occupation increased from 200 thousands to 250 thousands. If 300 thousands were killed, tell me where they came from and where the body had gone to.
Even now, Korea admitted they use wrong photo on their textbook as an evidence of the forced labors. Korea apologized to Japan, but they have not corrected the textbook yet. Totally not reliable.
@@marygebbie6611 The most solid evidence for evaluating governance is the population. The Nazis drastically reduced the Jewish population, and the colonial rule by western countries reduced the population in South-East Asia. However, at the annexation era between 1910 and 1945, the population of the Korean Peninsula doubled. It proves that Koreans eat and had sex every day during this periods. If Japan did inhuman rule, you can understand it would be impossible to increase the population.
Those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.
This wasn't my first time watching this video but this viewing made me think about the parallels between the US and Japan in terms of what is enshrined there. The section focusing on the shrine to the old empire reminded me quite a bit of the discourse surrounding confederate monuments here in America. Those shrines also have a lot to do with racism, but the reverence that the right-wing nationalists of both countries have for these monuments is quite interesting.
A history book that doesn't show the atrocities the nation in question has committed! How surprising...
+Alfredo Alfaro I hope this is sarcasm
Sounds like our textbooks here in the United States.
It is surprising! Especially for a democratic country. Look into German history books. You will find a different approach. Also the visit of concentration camps is part of school education.
US History textbooks talk about slavery and the genocide of Natives. Japanese textbook altogether ignore the history
You guys are just talking about Japanese textbooks only by hearsay and guess. There are 7 to 8 different kinds of history textbooks used in Japanese high/junior high schools. The main atrocities committed by the imperial Japan are exactly written in the textbooks, even in the above problematic one. And the adoption rate of the problematic one written by far-right scholars is only a few % among all of the Japanese high/junior high schools. This video report by Vox is very insufficient and one-sided.
일본식의 민주주의 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 너무 웃겼다.
일본은 독일하고 다르게 저시대를 반성하지 못한다.
일본인은 저 시대를 일본 탄생 이래로 가장 영광된 시대였다고 기억하니까.
그래서 일본인들은 미국으로 부터 핵폭탄 맞은게 억울한거야.
일본은 분명 정치의 주류인 자민당에서 벗어나지 못해. 그리고 국민이 나쁜게 아니라 정부가 나쁜거다 라고 하는 무식한 사람도 있지만 일본인은 아베의 헌법 개정에 과반수가 동의해...제국주의의 향수를 잊지 못하는거지. 우리나라도 북한과 별개로 국방강화가 계속 이루어져야해
@아재 인종청소 라는 말을 정당화 하는것은 아주 잘못된 생각 입니다. 사회 전체가 이상하게 변질 될 때 어떤 핑계든 댈 수 있습니다.
잘못 된 부분이 있다면 법과 제도를 통해 제제하고 수정해야 되는 것입니다.
독일은 그 부분을 정확히 인지하고 반성하는것이고 일본은 지금도 변명을 만들어 내고 있는것입니다. 서방 세력에 맞서 동아시아의 해방을 위해 어쩔 수 없었고 동아시아를 발전시켰다고 미디어와 교과서로 국민들에게 홍보하고 있죠.
실제 저 당시에는 영국과 미국을 짐승과 변태적 성향을 가진 국가와 사람들로 묘사하며 국민들에게 교육했었고요. 영미귀축 이라는 말로 프레임을 만들었죠. 그들로 부터 동아시아를 보호하겠다며 일본이 직접 악마가 되었죠.
@아재 이거 말이 앞뒤가 전혀 안맞는데요?
이걸 말이라고 써놓은겁니까?
일본하고 독일을 헷갈리게 뒤섞어놓고 거기에 인종청소라?
한국어로 썼으니 한국인으로 사람들은 알겠죠?
이거 도대체 뭡니까?
당신 일본인 아니에요??
자신들이 저지른 만행을 자랑스럽게 여긴다는것으로써 알수있는건 일본은 뼛속까지 무식한 사무라이 야만족들이라는거임.
나치 = japan..
무슨 설명이 더 필요한가
I'm Japanese and literally everyone in my school doesn't think like this
There is a reason you mostly see old men in groups like this. I hope Japan can come to terms with its pre-WW2 past and the Japanese understand what lead to those atrocities. And never let it repeat its self.
@@Rschaltegger I do, too!
Be proud in your country and produce children!
@j lt what
Well it has been over 4 years since this was created and I have not noticed any rise in right-wing nationalism. If anything I've noticed a decrease.
Because right wingers are anti freedom
This video is too much anecdote and vague ideas. It needed some deeper research and more rigorous analysis. Why no academic experts interviewed? It never shed much light on obvious questions like:
How popular is the Japan First party? How widespread are those textbooks compared to more moderate alternatives? What evidence is there that right-wing nationalism is significantly stronger now than in previous decades? If it is definitely rising, then what is driving that?
There was plenty of factual missteps too. It seemed obviously wrong to me to say that the atomic bombs were dropped on Japan at the "height of its power" when much of its empire was or had been rolled back in the preceding years of WW2, and its military was in shambles.
Compared to the strong presentation, analysis and research of videos like "Don't fall for the antifa trap" or "Why tax breaks benefit the rich" it was quite a disappointment.
Trent Diamanti I agree with everything you said. The textbook they showed in the video is not used by the majority of schools in Japan. And is a textbook for elementary - junior high students. (How can you even show rape and massacres to 12yr old children?) They could have at least showed us High school textbooks which explain such atrocities to grown up students with more detail.
Eiji Tomiyama
You don't give it attention, BUT THEY'RE DISPUTING THE FACTS OF THE EVENT.
They're feeding children the wrong information.
So no, this isn't okay
I expected the coverage to elaborate the topic into 'why the far right wing is instigated'; because Trump wants to poke North Korea,of course.
South Korea and Japan is the front line of U.S. teritory when you think about it.
I grew up in Japan and I DID STUDY about sex slaves in secondary school history class,but kids today can't.
I spent my 20's in Europe and now I'm back in Japan,oh boy my country changed in the past few years.
It scares me how Japan going backwards.
The problem here is, from what Eiji Tomiyama has stated and is true, that these books are not used by the majority of Japan and that this specific textbook is for elementary to junior high students. In the cases that these are used I can understand why because we, in the US, don't show kids the atrocities of war, we merely mention them in passing. In high school you're more likely to get the full picture as you are mature enough to handle it. Showing the high school textbooks would provide a little more context and reaffirm why they use the book.
Antie Cuteness You could look at United States history and what it changes/fails to mention for presentation toward its children. An example I can think of is the Vietnam War, look into what textbooks say... Or rather dispute/lack thereof. The point of this is that it is important to understand that Japan isn't the only country altering facts for their gain.
Democracy without introspection of history will lead to tragedy.
*AMEN* to that
bleeding kansas, when representive republic become democracy (mob rule)
that's pretty woke.
@@owenbunny4023 democracy isn't mob rule. That's ochlocracy. Pure Democracy is just a flawed idea (that doesn't mean that democratic system inspired by the idea of democracy aren't flawed, but they are less flawed than pure democratic systems)
Until Majority of people start thinking for themselves we are gonna be this way for a looong time
5yrs later interesting how this went no where. Abe's assassination was the most extreme thing to happen to Japan since this documentary.
This is the type of sequel that I don’t want
핵을 맞았다는게 억울하다면 다른국가를 공격치 않아야 했고, 다른국가의 시민들을 데려다가 성노예로 사용하지 말아야했으며, 다른국가의 시민들을 상태로 잔혹한 생체실험은 하지 않았어야 억울하다고 받아들여지겠지. 일본이 저지른 만행들은 한국의 ' 서대문 형무소 ' 에 그때 얼마나 고통스런 실험들을 자행했는지 일부 남아있으니 궁금한 사람들은 한번쯤 가보는것도 좋을것 같네요.
this is what google translate said (yes I know it's google translate.): If it was unfair that the nuclear strike was unfair, it should not be attacked by other nations, should not be used as a sexual slave by taking citizens of other nations, and should not have been subjected to cruel bio-experiments with citizens of other nations. I think it would be nice to go to those who wondered about it, as some of the Japanese inmates have left some of their painful experiments in the 'Seodaemun Prison' in Korea.
미국 스탠포드 대학교 "가장 공정한 역사 교과서는 일본"
www.ilbe.com/5162218474、mlbpark.donga.com/mlbpark/b.php?&b=bullpen2&id=2908478
@@mooo4802 ilbe is also called a group of fools in Korea, and no one believes the site's information.
Lol, that profile picture is from Korea in civ 5 XD
English for English video dumbass
Japan never feel sorry for the wars it brought, rather they do feel sorry for not winning them
Ezra Shekelsberg How? They're the underpower every way except for being the most anti-humanity
It’s true. They don’t teach the war as like they were the aggressor. They only teach it from the perspective of the victim.
R. J. It's the Japan way of saying that "we weren't the loser, we aren't gonna take it." Japanese people are just isolated in their narrow minds as Japan is isolated as an narrow island, at best; or they're just worse than everyone else, for instance: Germany after WWII
Who wouldn't be sorry for losing? To further that point if you had pride in your nation why accept the shame the other people tell you?
Because the pride they refer to is on the expense of endless massacre and atrocities they committed against neighbouring countries. It's like telling a German to be sorry for losing WWII and not to accept the shame their ancestors had brought.
People should remind and know the history, so that people won’t make mistakes again
Title should have been “western liberal shocked when finally looking outside of America for historic perspectives and politics”
when Americans barely find out about Japan’s rising nationalism: 😮
WEEBS GET SAD WHEN THEY ARE REJECTED BY JAPAN. THEY TAKE THEIR ANGER TOWARDS OTHER ASIAN COUNTRIES LOL
LOL
@@marioplayer1410 weebs just think Japan is a land of gardens and cartoons
It's not rising at all. By any metric, nationalism is dropping in Japan. You really need to search far and wide to find any of those old crusty Japanese nationalists. Most Japanese people are a little perplexed about what they are going on about.
@@blabby102 sounds that you are japanese amd i have some questions. If nationalism is dropping,why are the right nationalistic policies are keep being put forward?
The way that sakurai dude speaks and idealizes Japanese nationalism is unbearably cocky and disgusting
well that's pretty much why he hasn't won any elections yet, his statements are also too extreme to gain mainstream popularity
But his books are getting into schools and being taught to children. So he might actually start winning elections when those brainwashed kids grow up in a few years and vote for him.
It was kinda sickening on how he described how Japan had a democracy in the past, just that the emperor was at the top. I don't think the guy knows what a democracy is. You don't venerate a leader like a god in a democracy.
Yeah every country has its fair shares of these repugnant politician, and that comes with having freedom of speech. As the guy said at the end, it is still far from Japan to elect someone like Trump or LePen as the head of the country.
His books specifically aren't getting anywhere near schools, Vox's editing makes it sound like it is by mixing up book lobbyists, sakurai, prime minister etc. altogether.
Textbooks in your country says "the army had (or still having) military brothel"?
Whereas the french says « On a "envahi" l'Algérie(We invaded Algerie) », the Japanese textbook says : « We had "advanced", "reached" to Korea and China. »
Do they teach in American schools about how the US destabilised dozens of countries throughout the world during the Cold War, including Nicaragua, Colombia, Iran, Afghanistan, etc?
Liam Davis yes
Yes we do
Don't forget the 1954 bombings to Guatemala's capital to overthrow their democratically elected president (and the last good president we've ever had) Jacobo Árbenz because he was against the United Fruit Company's abuses against Native Guatemalans' lands, triggering the second longest Civil War in the whole continent. Not to mention the 1948 syphillis experiments. Do they also teach American children about them I wonder...
Actually we did lol
Liam Davis sssshhhhh. Don't worry about that, have a Big Mac and watch some Fox News.
Personally, I believe history is meant to be educational.
I like this quote from Edmund Burke "Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it."
Now I'm not saying Japan will repeat the Empire specifically in the future, but warping history to make your people proud isn't the point.
The point of history is to know what has happened, and not to ever repeat what should not be ever again.
If history known by most is exaggerated, wrong, or biased, then the history should be fixed. Not all history can be without these flaws, but you can always correct the history.
By purposefully altering history to the masses to give them pride, it is blinding them from reality, and what the purpose of the subject.
While it most likely won't end up as badly as one might hope(and I am confident and hope that it won't), history should still be educational, not being used to give pride to those who learn of it.
Also, history is the past. Just because your nation had bad events in the past does not mean one should linger there and stay in contemplation of such a position.
Nations and people(s) with bad histories should strive to focus on the present.
Those who dwell on the terrible past and stay there will not move forwards.
By putting your ugly past behind you and moving forward, you can not only help yourself, but everyone else.
I don't know the criticism I will receive, but looking at these comments I just felt like I had to get my thoughts on the matter out.
Crayz, well said. Be honest and truthful. But do not use the past for political purposes. The pursuit of power corrupts. Nowadays in the West, we've swung way too far toward GUILT, TORMENTING and JUDGING with no transformation, no redemption for anyone; only humiliation and control over those deemed evil based on collective identity from the FEARED past. Power learns to feed on guilting over the past.
THIS in itself is begging for EVIL, giving in to fear and the worse motivations of human beings. This is NOT a path of shared humility. If there is a basis for fear, FACTS and careful scrutiny and meticulous truthfulness is enough, not polarization, not exaggeration, not self-righteousness. Worst of all: NOT politics. IMHO, it isbest to stay in the middle and criticize both extremes.
The funny thing is just that most nationalists usually know much more about history, than those who oppose nationalism
This is the most profoundly true point in this section, and probably the only one worth reading. Bravo!
Not just Japan, literally every country doing this.
okay now i understood the fight between the left and right in Murakami's novels.
I lived in Japan for a couple of years. Fantastic people. Wonderful culture. Clean and safe.
But there is most definitely xenophobia. And there is also a negative connotation to being too proud of Japan. It was my impression that they have been slowly trying to promote national pride and reduce the shame or insecurity regarding their heritage. If I remember correctly, they didnt sing the national anthem often because it was TOO patriotic and u rarely heard the chant of "Bonzai!!!!" because it was reminiscent of the war time patriotism...This has now changed I think.
I dont think there is anything wrong with being patriotic . But we can all agree that when it becomes too intense it can be dangerous or at the least very annoying.
May I ask, where in Japan were you living? I've heard and read that Southern Honshu and Kyoto are rather liberal by Japanese standards, and Osaka is REALLY liberal by Japanese standards, while Tokyo and the north are much more conservative.
"I lived in Japan for a couple of years. Fantastic people. Wonderful culture. Clean and safe.
But there is most definitely xenophobia." Have you even considered that for the the former qualities, the latter is required?
japan forgets that china helped them so much
if japan was cast away to the middle of the pacific, they would be dead
"Helped" is stretching it. It was more of a "kiss my ass" relationship until Japan decided to say "how about I kick it instead"
Japanese want you kick out LOL
Just imagine Germany has a monumental praying structure in honor of WW2 German casualties. Among the list of honored dead are people like Heinrich Himmler, Hermann Goring, and Joseph Goebbels. Those list be pride as warriors that dead for the greater cause of the country's struggle. So yeah, that's what basically Japan is doing right now.
Patrick Ma it’s already seen
Like With Western praising to Columbus and many other conquistadors.
Or how about people valuing the crusaders when they did nothing really but ruthlessly spreading their values
No need to imagine it. It’s already done :D
Patrick Ma
As a German native I had immense trouble visiting Yasukuni shrine when I was living in Japan and I ended up not going. Other German friends didn't have this kind of bad conscience, they just went straight for the shrine, as did my fellow American exchange students, they didn't think twice. I did a lot of research about this shrine and I think the only way I can visit Yasukuni and leave with a clear conscience is if I visit the small shrine outside the main shrine compound that is dedicated to all the souls that have been taken by the war. It's a neutral shrine that offers shelter for all souls, no matter what side they fought on. I think this is a really nice idea but if you actually look at pictures of the shrine and then compare it to the size of the main compound and the shrines constructed for Japanese war criminals... it's a little discouraging. Still, I feel a kind of duty to visit but at the same time I feel ashamed if I did. It's a kind of dilemma that I still try to figure out.
But I have thought a lot about the comparison you mentioned which is quite accurate and it really is crazy that something like this exists. However, you need to understand the Japanese perspective that from their point of view, they have fulfilled their duty and showed immeasurable loyalty to the Tennô, the divine Emperor. It's kinda similar to how American soldiers still receive applause and cheers simply if they say they served in the Army. It's a great honor to have served under the Emperor in a similar sense. I think the fact that they possibly killed a lot of people is not really thought about as in the American example.
You are the reason why world accepted Germany part of global society. Keep your healthy mind and pass it on to generations after. We we as a species killing 40 million world combined not learning how to co-exist, we are doomed even for that single result.
The monument is a shrine for all of people that fell in japan wars, including civilians, children, dogs and even foreigners (Taiwan soldiers for instance). Stop eating communist propaganda, and check your own history that praises freaking MAO.
Its been like that for decades.
Not just japan but pretty much most of Asia, especially on the southern asian country.
We are small and not as powerful so it is important for our people to at least has something to be proud of in our country and by that, we mean we need the spirit of nationalism (the love for our own country and its people) and doing nationalistic things.
and by "doing Nationalistic", I mean embracing our culture. You know, since its also great for tourism and it keeps our identity as a nation.
But i dont really expect you to fully understand what is going on here.
How we view the world is way too different than the west.
6:35 dang thats probably the loudest I have ever seen a Japanese dude yell
They’re always so quiet
How about unit #731? Most of Japanese doesn't know about this unit.
Do you know about most of Japanese?
At least,I know that some my Japanese friends know about the unit 731,and they feel sorry about it.
I don’t like Japan but the movies about Japan on CZcams are exaggerated,I think.
I read the book ( Factories of death) written by Sheldon Harris , USC professor not a movie.
They know it, they just think it is a noble unit that focus on science and all those inhumane experiments are sacrifice to the science. worthy to get a Nobel Price.
@@user-sj3on9ii4l dude, they feel 'sorry' about it? I feel absolutely sick. Utterly horrendous. It is by far one of the worst crimes against humanity. And to know that the division didn't get tried makes me more sick. The US wanted those test results, so they let them off unpersecuted.
Of course, it's also a sad story how the poorest of the poorest villagers in Japan were forced to go there to conduct those experiments. Most came back with severe mental issues. I live next to one of those villages.
I'm glad you know 'most Japanese'. Then you would know that what you just wrote there is plain factually false. Stop making assumptions bruh
Lived in Japan for three years and must tell there are some elderly who still think Japan is most perfect country and look down on other Asian countries and even US. Some elderly were apologetic though for war and evil deeds Japan imperial army has done in China. Some even call USA evil where there youngsters adore western culture.
@Son Gohan I used to think similar until I visited Osaka.
Son Gohan ever heard of Luxembourg? not most advanced in technology tho, but it’s pretty clean
I wish Britain was more like japan .
@SSJ JAPAN IS A GOOD COUNTRY NOW. NO LIES THERE. HOWEVER, TO SAY THAT JAPAN GOT THERE WITHOUT THE HELP OF THEIR NEIGHBOURS IS HILARIOUS. JAPAN WOULD HEAD STRAIGHT TO THE STONE AGES WITHOUT THE CULTURAL AND TECHNOLOGICAL INFLUENCES FROM KOREA, CHINA, AND OTHER COUNTRIES.
*OTHER ASIAN COUNTRIES
WITHOUT THEIR SUPPORT, JAPAN WOULD NEVER EVEN HAVE HALF THE STUFF THEY DO AND THEIR LANGUAGE (COPIED FROM CHINA) WOULD BE COMPLETELY GONE.
1:20 Japanese people angrily pushing each other in the street.
Me: I have not seen this before, I am intrigued.
It’s true, I’m a student in japan and when we learned about the war, there was nothing written about what the Japanese did in the war.
These videos are seriously much more educational.
Wow, the audacity.
Who are the nationalist in Antarctica? Is it the Penguin Party !
Elliot Sterling FAKE NEWS FROM THE POLAR BEAR MEDIA!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yea actually
The commies?
Until the USA goes and 'liberates' them so they can install their own controlled leadership.
+Skankhunt42 don't be ridiculous, the Penguin Empire will never fall.
To everyone who thinks every Japanese person is right-wing, you are wrong. I am from Japan, and these vans do come around but do not influence many people. There is always a police car behind them as well. And the majority is against these guys so yuh.
Save yourself from the folly of the west, you don't know just how lucky you are to have a country which doesn't hate itself.
Yet you have been voting for them for the most of japan's modern history
@@willlee5853 shut up please and try going outside
이준 So did the UK and US in the 16-1900s so why are they allowed to have militaries?
@@Subtact_ Because your holy God so called Tenno decided to be a human
6:37 not me thinking he was finna say “Eren Jaeger”
And this is how US History is taught in the south. "The Civil War began over state's rights and established that states may not cecede although it was not explicitly stated in the constitution."
This isn't rising nationalism... they have always been very nationalistic, where have you been?
Japan is the furthest a country can be from nationalistic. Honestly go talk to some real Japanese (not netizens) and your worldview will shatter.
Alternatively check some data for once: philebersole.wordpress.com/2017/02/24/who-are-willing-to-fight-for-their-countries/
@@VoxRationisSum mate u must be blind, how about you go look at japans culture and statistics. They are very close to nationalism compared to majority of western contries which are severely diverse in both culture and people.
@@rusiru161 i suggest you go check some stats online. Take the link above for example (it is a statistic, as you suggested), Japan is literally the least nationalistic.
Or alternatively get out of your man cave and go talk to some actual Japanese. Whatever your biased worldview is on Japan, it will shatter very quickly
Hello all, then why have not taken:
Racial discrimination Law's
Equally Law's
Political Correctness Laws
European cultural communities
(The foreign village in Kobe?) yea thanks 🤔.
Have Europeans in there local & cinema media.
How many of us are working in there supermarket , restaurants, warehouse, Going there public schools.
Then they have the audacity! To abandon there homeland's for European or European developed countries USA ,Canada ,Australia, birth out there foreign children and have the audacity to expect them to be treated equally to us!
@@VoxRationisSum True, we are pretty far away from being a nationalist, like most of the people who want to join Self Defense Force got influenced by Gate(anime). 😂
Japan never regret its history, Japanese respect their war criminals in Yasukuni Shrine... WTF
The majority of Japanese regret what our ancestor did. We shouldn't forget about this forever but the reason why we are respectful to Yaskuni Shrine is that we also taking care of people who died by my country even if what he did was wrong
@@kyuichi342 "we are respectful to Yaskuni Shrine is that we also taking care of people who died by my country even if what he did was wrong" excuse me ?? are you kidding me ..? Please image, if Israelites know Germany respect Hitler in some places, what would happen ??
@@allencpp First of all, thank you for giving additional explanation and giving an example. I appreciate that. In my personal opinion, we definitely should apologize about what we did in the past and we never ever repeat it but at the same time, people who enshrined in Yasukuni are not always like Hitler. Of course, maybe some people did like him but they are literally only small counterparts. The majority is that they are only thinking about improving our country even if they were brainwashed by the government at that time. So I think we should be respectful to them except for the minority like Hitler.
@@kyuichi342 czcams.com/video/vGeqh6CjGAU/video.html please see this video, the people wears Japanese WW2 uniform in front of Yasukuni, and says the result of WW2 is unacceptable. People around him are all agree with him lol
刘治东 Thank you for sharing. When I talk about this, some people easily get to be offensive. But you're not like them but more like thoughtful. Well they are kinda weird for me cuz the majority don't have strong opinion like them lol
I think we should obviously accept the result and what we did before. "However", I personally believe that Tokyo trial is nonsense. Please don't get me wrong. What I really would like to pinpoint is that we should accept the past but we shouldn't accept the concept of "Tokyo trials" because its nonsense to judge defeated counties by victorious countries.
For example thousands of innocent people were dead by atmic bomb by America. Why didn't they punish?
ironic how the video starts by highlighting a japanese history book which overlooks the atrocities of the Nanking massacres, but goes on to gloss over and normalise the US dropping 2 atomic bombs on Japan, conveniently dismissing it as an act of war. lol wut
3:58
honestly, every time someone says powerhouse I think of the mitochondria xxD
"mytochondria is the powerhouse of the cells"