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One of these 3 new defenseman ought to be able to teach Timothy Lilligren how to give and receive a hit. I never questioned his being tough, just that he needs a little "mean" in his game. Hard to watch opponents take advantage of this guy time after time.
The leafs defence has been pretty good in the playoffs, that’s not an issue. The forwards are the issue. They needed a dman who can create opportunities for the forwards coming out of the zone which Tanev can’t do.
I'm disappointed with the Tanev signing because I expected a brilliant contract that benefited both sides. Instead, Tanev got everything he could dream of in this deal, while the Leafs will be paying for it for years after he's gone. This is what I expected, please bare with me while I explain my reasoning: I expected Tanev would take a 3x5M to play for Toronto. After that, he'd likely retire, but if he still had game, he'd likely be a league-min for a year, maybe two. That brings his total remaining earnings to 17M (rounded up). If Tanev and the Leafs agreed to 17M spread out over the max 7 years, that would give the Leafs Cap hit of 2.5M. That would give Tanev his fair value at a cap that would make the Leafs extremely competitive, and not too concerned about the added years he won't be available. Imagine my surprise when I found out their passing him a total of 27M over 6 years. WHAT?!
I think you're underselling Domi. Most people recognize the passing, he's mediocre on D, plays physical, leader in the room. He has ALOT of versatility. Can play wing or centre. He's literally Superstar insurance. Marner down? Play him with Austin for instant chemistry. Austin down? Play him at 2C. All his best work last year and throughout his career is when he plays a significant role in the top 6. The main problem is he doesn't really fit a checking line, but that's not really his job or role.
Maybe Florida actually has good players? Barkov is an elite player and still gets disrespected. You think it's a coincidence that Huberdeau, Verhaeghe, and Reinhart have had career years playing on Aleksander Barkov's line and w/o him their careers were spiraling? The same reason guys are signing with Edmonton for discounted rates this offseason to play with McDavid and Draisitil is the exact reason guys like Tarasenko wanted to come to Florida. You guys are not giving enough credit to Florida for actually being a great team with great players. They've always had great weather, tax advantages, etc and have SUCKED for 2 decades. Things changed when they started drafting well and acquiring good players - and it started with Barkvov in 2013.
Since LTIR is being abused by teams, it’s certain that the NHL will change the cap rules with it which will screw the Leafs. Big chance to take by the Leafs to assume rules won’t be changed.
Domi, if he plays with 34 all year, gets career numbers. last season was an aboration goal wise, he may have put too much pressure on himself being that this was his dream job, but now is comfortable and I think he is capable of 20 goals and 50 plus assists. Look fwd to seeing what this team can do. Also would love too see Robertson on the second line with 93 at least until new year too give him the best opportunity too use his particular skill set. putting him in bottom 6 is not putting him in a position to thrive and offer his best to the team. Knies-Matthews-Domi Robertson-Tavares-Marner Jarnkrok-Holmberg-Nylander Dewar-Kampf- McMann not a Cup contender fwd group.
I like both the D core signings. Thought Tanev's AAV would be a bit lower given 6 year term, but Leafs had to beat out not only Dallas, but other teams with keen interest in him. Leafs have 4 years of #34, so not a lot of time to monkey around, they've done enough of that already. Not happy Marner and Liljegren are still around. To feel better, I went on Puckpedia and traded little Timothy L to the Oilers for Evander Kane, with Oilers retaining 1.25M of his 5.25M deal.
Other teams was willing to give tanev close to 7 million over 3-4 years so they gave him longer contract for lower cap hit good job for tree it do what you can to win now
I figure they take a step back in the regular season but on paper are better for the playoffs. Its kind of a coin flip who makes it in the atlantic. Only a couple teams like ottawa and monteal who i doubt will compete this year but im ready for someone to step up. Itll be a fight to get to the playoffs this year for the leafs which i think may do them good, and prepare them for the playoffs better than in years past. We'll see
Stolarz could be a solid backup, but has only started 80 games in his NHL career, and started zero in playoffs, so not sure why expectations are so high. Remember Jack Campbell's stats as a backup with LA etc. were superb. I would like to understand why Stolarz has never played much in his career. A bit strange unless it was all injury related.
I'm not even going to listen to this podcast if the title is "Did the Leafs get worse?" They added some good players and added a proven coach. The biggest lost so far was Illya Samsonov who you can make a legit argument was the worse goalie in the league last year so that's addition by subtraction. How come Toronto media have to be a clown shown at all times?
Born in 67... this team may be the best leaf team to have a chance to make the finals I have ever seen. I position them fourth on the cup contention. ( Woll the deciding factor)
Strong take considering the 04 team and the fact nothing sizeable has changed about a team that can’t even make a serious run at getting out of the second round. Love the boldness though
Guys guys I really wanted, Sean Walker and Daniel Sprong. Rather have Walker on his deal than OEL and I Like OEL. Sprong i still have hope. PS. It’s less about taxes and more about lifestyle as a millionaire.
The only overpaid players on the leafs is their 4th line. All should be under a mill. Marner is not overpaid. Jeff skinner makes 3 mill and David Kampf 2.4 mill 😂
If tanev is a big part to making leafs win in the playoffs get a the cup in next couple years who cares if he sucks or hurt after that they in win now in the next 4 years. Mathews contract
Leafs are stacked. No need for more forwards until the deadline. Let's see what Knies, Robertson (keep him), Homberg and McMann and maybe Cowan can do.
Tanev a solid +/- player, but only played 60 playoff games in career. All on the + side which is solid. Not sure what he will do with Leafs as he ages, but 6 years way too much. Injuries could slow him down or totally derail him. Tree probably had to give him term and money, but no move clause again .... yikes.
ᴅᴏɴ’ᴛ call yourselves Leafs fans at best you two are the critics on the muppet show (comic relief) neither of you have valid professional opinions, and I personally ᴅᴏɴ’ᴛ appreciate your bs trash talk for “your team” you’re nothing but click bait for actual fans (I know I’m hoping I never have your channel recommended to me again
YOU got to be TOTALLY INSANE if you think the OUT HOUSE Team COILERS are the BEST Team in the NHL ...Nashville or Jersey are the Teams ...COILERS will NOT SNIFF the cup next season ..JUST like ALL the Reporters on Sports Channels the past 3 years COILERS winning the Cup ...MY CALL was BUST and NO Cup this past season ...I'm going in what i have said in my comment
tanev sucks go watch the highlights , he couldnt help calgary even get to the playoffs with markstrom in net, tanev was worth 2x3 max he isnt worth 6 or 5 or 4, you all act like tanev is pietrangelo or hedman ,tanev was the 6th man in dallas now becomes the greatest leaf, oel another over paid player protected by florida, im not sure why they signed domi no team in the nhl was giving him anything , he has already played for a 3rd of the league, my question to you 2 are the leafs closer to winning a cup or closer to missing the playoffs?
@@jesseburke3990 he replaced their 6th guy who was injured and toronto signed him too, tanev is so good he led calgary to how many cups , being bailed out by good goal tending doesnt mean a 35 yr old is your number one guy , he is being paid like the lets for failure in the past
@@GFPpodcast multiple reasons….your guys takes are delusional and wrong lol, you guys thinking keeping Mitch marner is a good idea is the most Homer, cringe, wrong take ever. And you both never disagree with anything you guys just parrot each other and it’s boring.
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I was really impressed with OEL during Florida’s run to the Cup. Hoping he can carry that over to the Leafs!
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Tanev
One of these 3 new defenseman ought to be able to teach Timothy Lilligren how to give and receive a hit. I never questioned his being tough, just that he needs a little "mean" in his game. Hard to watch opponents take advantage of this guy time after time.
I just traded Liljegren to the Oilers for Kane, with Oilers retaining 1.25M of his 5.25M deal. No cause for concern any longer.
The leafs defence has been pretty good in the playoffs, that’s not an issue. The forwards are the issue. They needed a dman who can create opportunities for the forwards coming out of the zone which Tanev can’t do.
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I'm disappointed with the Tanev signing because I expected a brilliant contract that benefited both sides. Instead, Tanev got everything he could dream of in this deal, while the Leafs will be paying for it for years after he's gone.
This is what I expected, please bare with me while I explain my reasoning:
I expected Tanev would take a 3x5M to play for Toronto. After that, he'd likely retire, but if he still had game, he'd likely be a league-min for a year, maybe two. That brings his total remaining earnings to 17M (rounded up). If Tanev and the Leafs agreed to 17M spread out over the max 7 years, that would give the Leafs Cap hit of 2.5M. That would give Tanev his fair value at a cap that would make the Leafs extremely competitive, and not too concerned about the added years he won't be available.
Imagine my surprise when I found out their passing him a total of 27M over 6 years. WHAT?!
I think you're underselling Domi. Most people recognize the passing, he's mediocre on D, plays physical, leader in the room.
He has ALOT of versatility. Can play wing or centre. He's literally Superstar insurance. Marner down? Play him with Austin for instant chemistry. Austin down? Play him at 2C. All his best work last year and throughout his career is when he plays a significant role in the top 6. The main problem is he doesn't really fit a checking line, but that's not really his job or role.
I like the fact he has good chemistry with #34. Good back up plan if by some miracle Marner gets shipped out.
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Maybe Florida actually has good players? Barkov is an elite player and still gets disrespected. You think it's a coincidence that Huberdeau, Verhaeghe, and Reinhart have had career years playing on Aleksander Barkov's line and w/o him their careers were spiraling? The same reason guys are signing with Edmonton for discounted rates this offseason to play with McDavid and Draisitil is the exact reason guys like Tarasenko wanted to come to Florida.
You guys are not giving enough credit to Florida for actually being a great team with great players. They've always had great weather, tax advantages, etc and have SUCKED for 2 decades. Things changed when they started drafting well and acquiring good players - and it started with Barkvov in 2013.
Since LTIR is being abused by teams, it’s certain that the NHL will change the cap rules with it which will screw the Leafs. Big chance to take by the Leafs to assume rules won’t be changed.
It's the Maple Leafs we make the rules😂😅😁
I agree about JT. I see people saying resign him for 4-5 million. Are you kidding me! Unless he takes less then 2 million I wouldn’t resign at all.
Leafs need time to replace JT, so I would extend him, but not keen on anything over 3M
Domi, if he plays with 34 all year, gets career numbers. last season was an aboration goal wise, he may have put too much pressure on himself being that this was his dream job, but now is comfortable and I think he is capable of 20 goals and 50 plus assists.
Look fwd to seeing what this team can do.
Also would love too see Robertson on the second line with 93 at least until new year too give him the best opportunity too use his particular skill set. putting him in bottom 6 is not putting him in a position to thrive and offer his best to the team.
Knies-Matthews-Domi
Robertson-Tavares-Marner
Jarnkrok-Holmberg-Nylander
Dewar-Kampf- McMann
not a Cup contender fwd group.
Yes! Because the core 4 cost now MORE of the cap than last year. So yes, they’re worse than last year.
I like both the D core signings. Thought Tanev's AAV would be a bit lower given 6 year term, but Leafs had to beat out not only Dallas, but other teams with keen interest in him. Leafs have 4 years of #34, so not a lot of time to monkey around, they've done enough of that already. Not happy Marner and Liljegren are still around. To feel better, I went on Puckpedia and traded little Timothy L to the Oilers for Evander Kane, with Oilers retaining 1.25M of his 5.25M deal.
Tanev is GREAT D , BUT at 35 yrs. i'm giving him 3 years MAX with the LEAFS to stay healthy after that Robida Island
3 years is probably about right. but who cares? Leafs have money to burn, and their window for serious contention is starting to close.
The upcoming year is the Leafs' best chance for a Cup. Tanev will be fine this year which is the most important year.
I wanted Zadorov, but why the leafs couldn't get him is beyond me.
Other teams was willing to give tanev close to 7 million over 3-4 years so they gave him longer contract for lower cap hit good job for tree it do what you can to win now
Only if this blue line also had luke schenn 😢
Wouldn’t be surprised Matthews asks for a trade. Leafs have wasted enough years of his career. Gotta feels sorry for him at this point.
I figure they take a step back in the regular season but on paper are better for the playoffs. Its kind of a coin flip who makes it in the atlantic. Only a couple teams like ottawa and monteal who i doubt will compete this year but im ready for someone to step up. Itll be a fight to get to the playoffs this year for the leafs which i think may do them good, and prepare them for the playoffs better than in years past. We'll see
Stolarz could be a solid backup, but has only started 80 games in his NHL career, and started zero in playoffs, so not sure why expectations are so high. Remember Jack Campbell's stats as a backup with LA etc. were superb. I would like to understand why Stolarz has never played much in his career. A bit strange unless it was all injury related.
I'm not even going to listen to this podcast if the title is "Did the Leafs get worse?" They added some good players and added a proven coach. The biggest lost so far was Illya Samsonov who you can make a legit argument was the worse goalie in the league last year so that's addition by subtraction. How come Toronto media have to be a clown shown at all times?
Born in 67... this team may be the best leaf team to have a chance to make the finals I have ever seen. I position them fourth on the cup contention. ( Woll the deciding factor)
Strong take considering the 04 team and the fact nothing sizeable has changed about a team that can’t even make a serious run at getting out of the second round. Love the boldness though
The Leafs (on paper) look like the 6/7th best team in the eastern conference
Guys guys I really wanted, Sean Walker and Daniel Sprong. Rather have Walker on his deal than OEL and I Like OEL. Sprong i still have hope. PS. It’s less about taxes and more about lifestyle as a millionaire.
Worse ? Stop
The only overpaid players on the leafs is their 4th line. All should be under a mill. Marner is not overpaid. Jeff skinner makes 3 mill and David Kampf 2.4 mill 😂
Do you guys think the leafs medical staff will be able to really help Janny Hakeypaauks knee?
Not if it’s a degenerative issue.
C'mon. They just need a bit of luck. A couple of bounces and great goaltending.
If tanev is a big part to making leafs win in the playoffs get a the cup in next couple years who cares if he sucks or hurt after that they in win now in the next 4 years. Mathews contract
canucks bought ekman out...
The leaf are better but may have slipped in cup positioning???
I don’t know if they’re worse, but they ain’t winning a cup until Marner and Tavares are gone.
Only time will tell when 2025 nhl season ends then we will know lol 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Leafs are stacked. No need for more forwards until the deadline. Let's see what Knies, Robertson (keep him), Homberg and McMann and maybe Cowan can do.
Lol, what
Rate the Canadian teams. Edmonton, Vancouver, Winnipeg, Ottawa,Toronto, Montreal then Calgary. So, NO, Toronto is not better
Cannot take this seriously if you genuinely have the Senators ranked above the Leafs.
In what universe is Ottawa better than Toronto? 😂
Not worse. stupid bait headline 🙄
Little bit worse each year. Need another Goalie and to move marner out.
Tanev a solid +/- player, but only played 60 playoff games in career. All on the + side which is solid. Not sure what he will do with Leafs as he ages, but 6 years way too much. Injuries could slow him down or totally derail him. Tree probably had to give him term and money, but no move clause again .... yikes.
ᴅᴏɴ’ᴛ call yourselves Leafs fans at best you two are the critics on the muppet show (comic relief) neither of you have valid professional opinions, and I personally ᴅᴏɴ’ᴛ appreciate your bs trash talk for “your team” you’re nothing but click bait for actual fans (I know I’m hoping I never have your channel recommended to me again
@@Rist_Shot Instead, why don’t you actually tell us what opinions you disagree with?
YOU got to be TOTALLY INSANE if you think the OUT HOUSE Team COILERS are the BEST Team in the NHL ...Nashville or Jersey are the Teams ...COILERS will NOT SNIFF the cup next season ..JUST like ALL the Reporters on Sports Channels the past 3 years COILERS winning the Cup ...MY CALL was BUST and NO Cup this past season ...I'm going in what i have said in my comment
tanev sucks go watch the highlights , he couldnt help calgary even get to the playoffs with markstrom in net, tanev was worth 2x3 max he isnt worth 6 or 5 or 4, you all act like tanev is pietrangelo or hedman ,tanev was the 6th man in dallas now becomes the greatest leaf, oel another over paid player protected by florida, im not sure why they signed domi no team in the nhl was giving him anything , he has already played for a 3rd of the league, my question to you 2 are the leafs closer to winning a cup or closer to missing the playoffs?
Tanev fleeced Leafs and Pizza guy
Wrong tanev was on Dallas #1 unit you did not watch them in the playoffs if your saying that
@@jesseburke3990 he replaced their 6th guy who was injured and toronto signed him too, tanev is so good he led calgary to how many cups , being bailed out by good goal tending doesnt mean a 35 yr old is your number one guy , he is being paid like the lets for failure in the past
@@donniedoesdishes nobody ever said Tanev was the no.1 guy, blockhead. He's one of the best shutdown d-men in the league and has been for years.
These guys are fucking brutal
Why? Genuinely curious why you think we’re that bad. 😂
@@GFPpodcast multiple reasons….your guys takes are delusional and wrong lol, you guys thinking keeping Mitch marner is a good idea is the most Homer, cringe, wrong take ever. And you both never disagree with anything you guys just parrot each other and it’s boring.
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