"Less Than 1% Of Bass Players Will Play This Simple Exercise On The First Attempt!" True or False?
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This week I've got a brief, simple exercise for you that will test your knowledge of keys, arpeggios and harmony. I personally think that less than 1 per cent of bass players will play it right on the first attempt simply because it isn't the kind of exercise we generally practice.
Obviously, any player with a decent knowledge of harmony will play the exercise with ease and there may be many more players in that subset than I predicted. Let's see.
Leave a comment and let me know how you did?
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I know it's a clickbait title but it's for a reason. Let's see if you can play this exercise without any preparation. No tab, sheet music or practice. Let me know in the comments below how you did. 1 Per Cent of bass players might be a bit pessimistic. Let's see.
It’s a tough exercice. But I figured a trick to help me out. I know my 7s arpeggios but not the 9s, 11s and 13s. So, what I do, is I play the 7 arpeggio followed by the major or minor arpeggio of the next note. For instance, for the C, I play a C major 7 arpeggio followed by a D minor. For the D, I play a D minor 7 followed by a E minor, etc.
In my head, it is way simpler to visualise it that way instead of having to think of the 9th, 11th and 12tg.
At least, it works for me.
Thanx Mark and keep up your excellent lessons.
@@danymarcotte1900 yes, that's another way of approaching it and a good way of understanding the way triads can be used to express upper extensions
This is a Big No, the F has to be a sharp, if you go in third intervals, this is what makes it confusing to me, obviously I'm missing something?
@@brandonbowers3307 These are diatonic thirds. We're selecting whether they're major or minor based on the major scale. The C major scale has an F not an F#.
Haha... No, not a chance, and I didn't even have to pick up my bass to find out.
As usual you turn a simple exercise into a progression that enhances the bassists performance level - and make it interesting enough to keep our attention. You are a remarkable teacher and am so glad to be under your supervision.
Just watching the video I know the answer is a solid no.
Lol
Wao... this is like a eureka moment! I have been practicing these scales based on arpeggios and use of minor/major triads. Your video has made it much easier to understand the relationship using the stacking method to add the 9th, 11th and 13th. Brilliant! More than just a thumbs up.
Mark - I love your enthusiasm!! I can't play it, but I sure learned alot about how working through this will take me to the next step in my journey to be a better bassist!
Great stuff, love it!! Thanks Mark!!
I couldn't do it. I thought that it would be very much like playing the C scale by thirds exercise just without going back down but I had trouble with the not going back down. This is a useful exercise by itself. Great video!
My brain just exploded
Whoops... Sorry about that!!
@@talkingbasslessons 😂 I think it's a really great video though; my theory knowledge has been improving a lot using your videos, but I think this really highlighted in the space of 2-3 minutes the areas that I've yet to improve...has motivated me to get back on the theory train!
No
This was worth the click, as always! Even after watching the whole video I know it will take a lot of work. Thanks for the homework!
Mark,
Thanks for the written lesson! I couldn’t play this on the first time as you stated. However, the written lesson helped me to visually see the format. By combining the current triad with the 7th extension of the chord name or note before it. CMaj triad is combined with the Bm7b5 or 1 with 7. And then it continues with 2 combined with 1, 3 combined with 2 and so on. So I can now play this in all keys because I have the formula!
Nope! I can't do this first try. Need to slow it down and keep at it.
Super psyched about my progress though. I remember a few months ago when I found your channel and didn't know anything about music theory or the bass. I couldn't even play a major scale. Fast forward about 6-7 months and I can do diatonic 7th arpeggios in every inversion in any key but apparently not the fully extended arpeggios lol. You're channel is a huge help!
Without plugging my bass in the answer was no. I'm getting closer every day since I found your lessons though. Many thanks!
One of my favorites
I am going to try this exercise
I can play it, but I do have to think about the position of the next note before I play it, like I can go through it but I can't just automatically play the correct note, I don't know if that counts 😝. I might have to stop for a quarter or half note length of time to think, "which degree is this? The next note after that, what kind of a third is it?" and then play it. It's a very good exercise, and it feels like it demonstrates the idea of knowledge for knowledge's sake, cause it's not immensely practical but still very usable in session playing and stuff. Awesome exercise! Thanks Mark! My technique on bass and basic knowledge of theory is all thanks to you! Keep doing what you do!
Couldn't do it, but at least I understood the question. That's a big step in the right direction.
This is where my playing has always seemed to lack, arpeggios. And largely, it's been a choice thing because most of what I've seen getting into arpeggios is root, 3rd 5th, & maybe the 7th. While I know the chord tones, running them seemed counterproductive to working walking bass lines (at least for myself). This definitely opens my eyes & ears to their value. Now time to practice to be a 1%'er!!
No.. Need to work on it.. Thanks for suggesting this exercise..
No Mark! I got to the part where you said 9,10,11,12, and thirteen, and I was lost. I told myself ‘I have to find a way to get serious about learning. I need to finishing some of my courses.’ I’m basically having trouble managing my interests and having a dedicated time and space to devote to learning. By the way, it’s John from Tampa; I’m always catching the live streams.
Nah I could maybe do it for the root chord, but I don’t really know the diatonic extensions for all 7... thanks for giving me something to work on!
As soon as you said "diatonic" I knew I was in trouble. Nope, nope, nope. But, that's why I'm here - "what else can I work on".... Thanks for the exercise.
Waw excellent exercice. I just like to think of it differently: I take the C Major 13 and split it in 2, the 1st part is the CM7 arpeggio and the second one is the next note D which Dm triad and so on. So we have :
CM7/Dm
Dm7/Em
Em7/FM
FM7/GM
G7/Am
Am7/Bdim
Bm7b5/CM
and I couldn't do it
nailed it my first attempt!!
I didn't get it straight away even though I have been practising up to the seventh. What caught me out was the IV chord being a major 7 with a #11 extension as I have been focussing on VI II V I progressions recently. I also need to revise on the VII chord with the b5,b9 and b13. Also, I have been studying blues progressions where the IV chord is just a dominant chord.
Add the triad on top that is from the next scale order. For example add Dminor triad on top of the Cmaj7. You get Cmaj13.
Add eminor triad on top of Dm7. You get Dm13.
I know I can't do it, but I'll try anyway!
3rd attempt
Played core tly
Thank u Sir
I definitely didn't nail it first go and I had to go fairly slowly and I went over the same arpeggio a few times in a row but I didn't make any mistakes that threw my knowledge of theory into question
I think 1% is overshooting it. Dang this is a heck of a lesson.
No, but thanks for the vote of confidence.
Can I retry this exercise is about 10-20 yrs
What brand of bass are you using here?
I will try and get this one licked by the 1,000th time. 😉 This is a good theory excercise to mash my brain on.😁 Thanks Mark.
Ok. It didnt take me 1,000. Bit it did take me about 12. I get it. Yay!
Nope! I'm still trying to learn basic scales, and my music theory is maybe at a kindergarten level.
yeah i could play that first time. just play the triad of the 9 on top of the 7 chord. (eg. Cmaj7 + Dmin triad)
I tried and I definitely couldn't on the first try. It's not that hard after a while but on the first attempt it's really hard. I also tried with modes of the major scale and even if that was way easier it was still harder than I thought.
I knew the answer is no at the moment you started explaining the exercise. Guess I have an awful lot to learn.
My head exploded before the 2 min mark.
For sure I can' play it. I can't even conceptualize it if I slow down. I gotta learn all the 7ths first!
I can play it first time if I had the tab :)
What`s the deal with those LED`s? Some kind of charging pickups indicator?
Sims Super Quad pickups. Quad coil with selection for every configuration: Single, Split coil and dual coil. Can select for either pickup and then bias how you want giving a vast amount of options. The LEDs indicate the setting. Blue is single, red is split, blue is dual
@@talkingbasslessons Thanks! Awesome channel!
I'd need to drill this hard. But, I do like the idea of using this for scripting sexy solos.
"Haha clickbait title, it's going to be an easy exercise with some twist on how to play it correctly"
- (...) extended diatonic arpeggios (...)-
Well, it was an easy NO for me lol
I hope being able to do that after some good time of GOOD practice. I'm glad I bought the bass fundamentals course; I couldn't do the exercise but at least I kind of understood what it was all about...
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Lol, I'm gifted I played it after listening once. Ok I have been playing for nearly 30 years so might be an advantage. Cheers
PS, I played this by ear. Hard for new players when every note may sound the same until they develop.
@@mrbungle7586 That's Ok but it kind of defeats the object of the exercise. It's a test of your harmony knowledge. I'm aware many people could play it by ear. The whole point is to understand the various diatonic intervals available when extending all the diatonic chords. It's a harmony/theory exercise, not a playing exercise.
TalkingBass - Online Bass Lessons Thanks for replying Mark, yes I understand that and have that knowledge as well. It's a great lesson as always. BTW do you play or have an AEG, I bought 1 recently and enjoying it. Like to hear any thoughts and experiences you may have had with them. Cheers
Excellent teaching exercise! And.... ah....... nope
Absolutely not! I would like to though.
Like many of you players I watch a lot of these type of videos. But I often wonder if some of the bass legends; guys like Bootsy, Jameson, JPJ, Geezer, Louis Johnson... Could play stuff like this. Or were they just really great "band" players. If that makes sense. Having a solid foundation of fretboard knowledge, some patterns, and some basic scales; but an amazing feel for what songs need while playing with a band? Thoughts?
P. S.
Just to be clear.
This question is not dismissing the importance of learning great theory like this.
I don't even have to watch until he starts playing to answer no.
Nope, could not play it. Want to learn it though. AND the theory that is ...
I’m going to Guitar Center and play this until they kick me out. 😂😂😂
TABS?
Can I play it ? F#ck me, I didn't even understand the instructions !
OK, I did it first time. Hard though, I really want to hear the augmented eleventh in the second octave over C , I want a sixth in the first octave for minor chords, not the seventh etc etc. It's easy to remedy the 1% problem, stop providing TAB for lines that people with undeveloped ears can sing back first time. Take down youtube and bring back the aspiration to develop a real teaching relationship with someone in the real world rather than turning every teacher into a marketer for youtube.
I'll be honest though. What I want to be able to do is to play a bass line in cut time root and fifth with two diatonic approach notes for each of the three chords necessary to accompany any folk tune I have ever heard without interrupting the flow of the music or the chords I am playing by ear. I've seen it done, and with modesty and aplomb at folk jams by non professionals and often purely by ear and first time through any tune in any key. It's amazing how much more challenging real music making is compared to nerdy stuff. I am of course speaking as a nerd and I know why..... the geometry of this and similar exercises is trivially simple compared to that of say, a sixteen bar fiddle tune for Scottish country dancing . Despite my general tone and grumpiness let me be clear, youtube ain't perfect but Marc is as good as it gets for those who rely on it for instruction and I bet if you went to his house for a lesson and were prepared to work he would make you dinner and give you another three or four hours of gold dust lessons, advice and demonstration and ( IF YOU ARE really LUCKY AND SEEM LIKE YOU DESERVE IT) maybe quite a stern talking to before assigning you a three year study course as homework.
damn it, second try
First attempt? Not in my first 50 attempts at least
I am the 99%.
No hahaha wtf I thought I knew arpegios
No way.
No -
No need to try I know I won't get it the first time lol
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no.... ;(
Ok but if I learn this will I turn into a robot?
I hope not!
Alright no more excuses then. Thanks!
NNOOOOOOOO!!!!!
Jesus!
Flat out NOPE!
Nope!! Not even the fisrt arpeggio! :)
The whole of what you said in the first place was total gobldyook. But I listend to what you played and naild it on the second go. Seems like thirty plus years of playing by ear has payed off.
That’s fine and shows a good ear but was obviously not the point of the lesson. The question I posed is simply to determine whether you know the major key to that extent. It also determines your knowledge of harmony.
Nope
Um, let's see... no, LOL
Absolutely not...
Nope defo not 😂
Nope.... I'm out..
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