How to vacuum a pool to waste : most satisfying pool cleaning of the year
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How to vacuum a pool to waste : cleaning a dirty pool
My pool had sat over winter without being cleaned. I needed to open it as the weather was improving but it was very dirty. I live in the Canary Islands and we had the worst Calima on record for more than 10 years. A Calima is a wind which blows from the east and brings dust from the Sahara Desert which it then dumps all over the islands.
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Why vacuum a pool to waste? There was far too much dirt at the bottom for the sand filter to handle so I needed to vacuum to waste so that the dirty water went straight out into my front garden and not back into the pool.
Whenever you are cleaning a dirty pool you really need to put the multiport valve on waste.
The problem with vacuuming to waste is that the water level in the pool drops very fast so you have to work quickly.
I started the hose running into the pool and I also have an automatic top-up so water was going back in. Even so, in the 10 minutes it took me to vacuum to waste, the water level dropped by about 6 inches or more.
My aim wasn't to clean the pool thoroughly but just to remove the worst of the dirt. A few days later when whatever dust I had disturbed had settled I gave it another good clean using the filter setting.
I have to say this is probably the most satisfying pool cleaning of the year.
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SOOOO satisfying watching the dirty to blue process !
It is isn't it. Far more satisfying than when you do a weekly clean when the pool is hardly dirty. Thanks for watching Brandi.
Wonderful job, AMAZING RESULTS!!! TY
Thanks for watching Chloe
@@EasyPoolCleaning what made me watch....the video pic shows the AMAZING RESULTS! Lol. Appreciate the effort & sharing!
Great video Mate, thanks from California
Thanks for watching!
Thank you.
You're welcome!
Great vid ! I'll give it a try
Good luck
the tip on the water level was great. first timer here. also vacuum to waste here to a deer run behind my fence.
Good luck
@@EasyPoolCleaning aren't you kind.
Worth it
You the man
Thanks Fatima
many thanks. i will apply your technique to my pool cleaning. thanks
I hope it was helpful. Any questions then just ask.
do you get more suction power going to waste instead of filter mode? Can I bypass the vac plate on top of the skimmer basket, since I'm bypassing the filter?
You do get a little more suction as the water isn't having to pass through the filter. You can plug the hose directly into the hole at the bottom of the skimmer without using a skimmer plate. Thanks for the question and for watching.
Hi I only have backwash, clean, return, aerator, and an automatic pool vacuum, do you think I can get the job done?
It won't be easy but you can do it. The best I can suggest, if your pool is very dirty, would be to manually vacuum on the filter setting (clean setting on your valve) but stop every few minutes and backwash before the filter becomes clogged and dirt starts going back into the pool. Good luck.
Hi, my vacuum is separate from the skimmer. Question: do I need to turn off my skimmer valve, and eyeball jet valve when vacumming or does it not matter when vacuuming to waste? Thanks!
I guess by that you mean that you have a dedicated vacuum port in the side of the pool? Whether you turn off the skimmer valve really depends on how much suction you get. If it is good then leave the valve open but if not then closing it should increase the suction. Thanks for watching.
@@EasyPoolCleaning yes, sir. A dedicated vacuum. My pump seems to release water when I switch to "waste" mode and the vacuum stops sucking after that. I must be doing something wrong.
That's very odd. Does it keep its suction when you vacuum on the filter setting?
@@EasyPoolCleaning yes. The suction is normal when in filter
@@shenk2210 That could happen if your waste line was somehow blocked or had a shut off valve you didn't know about, like the ball valve he opened in the video. If your waste is blocked, then then you would lose suction and put much more strain on the pump, possibly causing an older pump to release water.
How do I connect my hose to the filter on waste mode? I’m just learning how to take care of a pool. Idk how to fill the hose full of water this way
You connect the hose the same way as you do when you vacuum the pool - normally into the hole at the bottom of the skimmer. You can fill it with water as I show in this video - czcams.com/video/Z5gyOMjwnH4/video.html
Do I have to start my filtration plant everytime I do the vacuum
If you do not run the pool pump you will not have any suction so the vacuum won't work. The exception would be if you had a robotic pool cleaner of course.
Can I use the dedicated vacuum line for a manual vacuum? My automatic vacuum keeps stirring the small particles with it's water tail.
Yes, you can Shannon.
Good day sir. I just installed a pool at home. Currently i just vacuum the pool without changing the pump lever to waste option. Found the vacuum suction not so good and hard to clean sand on pool bottom. If I change the lever to Waste option like u do, will it improve the suction? Why its suction less powerfull if the lever not set to "Waste"?
It will probably improve the suction if you vacuum on waste. Before you do that you can try and improve the suction when vacuuming on the filter setting by:
1. Backwash the filter (as the filter may be clogged with dirt/debris)
2. Make sure that your bottom pool drain is closed so all the suction comes from the skimmers
3. If you have more than one skimmer, and have valves to control them individually, then turn off the valve to the skimmer/s you are not using to vacuum. If your skimmers do not have separate valves (mine does not) then you can push a tennis ball or similar into the hole at the bottom to concentrate all of the suction into the skimmer you are vacuuming from.
I hope this makes sense.
@@EasyPoolCleaning thanks sir
@@EasyPoolCleaning Oh ya. 1 more thing. I saw u open the red valve on the pipe so the water went out to outside. I tried using Waste vacuum method but didnt open the red valve like u do. But the vacuum water still going out through waste pipe to outside like your video. Is it okay if i didnt open the red valve? I dont know mine have same direct piping valve to outside or not actually. Hope u can advise. Thanks in advance.
Do you actually have a valve on your waste pipe? If the water is flowing out then that isn't a problem.
You should close your drain valve half way of you have no suction. And if you have more than 1 skimmer you need to turn one off before you vacuum to filter. Vacuum to waste is usually done when pool is really dirty only.
When vacuum on filter it dumps back into the pool... any suggestions
Have you backwashd the filter? If you have lots of debris then use the waste setting.
@@JPinFuerteventura THANKS
My pump only has backwash, rinse, filter and winter. What one do I use for waste?
Although water will be expelled from the pool when you use backwash or rinse they will not do the same as waste as the water will pass through the filter instead of going straight out of the pool. Do you have a valve that allows you to drain the pool (without the water passing through the filter)?
@@EasyPoolCleaning can I still do it if it passes through the filter
@@larios86 That would defeat the purpose. You vacuum to waste to bypass the filter so it doesn't become clogged due to the amount of dirt you have to remove.
Thank you for your video ! I have been trying to remove all the dead algea and debris on the bottom of my pool by doing vacuum to waste. But the main problem is the water level drops the quick. Any tip you could give me would be great.
Thank you again. Hope you will reply ❤
That is a problem. All you can do is top the pool up as much as possible before you start, leave the hose running and then work as quickly as you can without disturbing the debris. If the level drops to the bottom of the skimmers before you have finished then you can just stop where you are, switch off the pump and top up some more.
Thank you Sir 😊
Thank you so much. Had trouble cleaning the dirty at the bottom.
Glad it helped. Thanks for watching.
PLEASE HELP! When I go to vacuum to Waste, my vacuum just pushes the dust around the pool it doesn’t pick it up like your vacuum is doing. Is it something wrong with the vacuum? I have an above ground pool
Hi. You clearly don't have any suction. If you vacuum on filter does it pick up? If it does then it sounds like you may need to open a valve on your outlet pipe so that the water has somewhere to go.
@@JPinFuerteventura thanks for responding. It does have a suction on filter but I was told to vacuum to waste. But what do you mean open a valve on outlet pipe? I have an above ground pool and its not set up like your filter system. I only have a 4 way valve
@@behindthesoldsign What are the 4 settings you have on your valve?
Don t have a vacuum line how to stop the waste going in the sand filter
Sorry Margaret, I am not entirely sure what you mean. Do you mean you do not have a dedicated vacuum port so you plug the vacuum hose into the skimmer? To stop the waste going through the filter you need to select waste on your multiport valve.
How do you get everything to settle to the bottom, and then not get stirred up when you vacuum?
You can use flocculant if you need to to make it settle. Then vacuum quite slowly on waste, ideally using a vacuum head without brushes (which stir it up) such as this one www.amazon.com/Fibropool-Professional-Flexible-Swimming-Vacuum/dp/B01JYX4WPW?tag=boogsuk00-20
@@EasyPoolCleaning I have used floc. I will try a vacuum without brushes. Thank you!
Hello im from Germany I live in Thailand we have a 50m3 pool I like u Video I do to waste from vacuum but my water go down!! So skimmer soon empty what I do wrong, I have to switch some Ventil?
The water level will always go down when you vacuum to waste as the water is not recirculating to the pool. To vacuum to waste you need to top the water level up first and then work quickly. Obviously, if you vacuum on the filter setting the water level will not go down.
@@EasyPoolCleaning I think I can close one Valve for not go water down I see 2 pipe to go to the filter before the bump
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Did your pool start to developed the same dust shortly after you vacuumed?
No Jonathan. Vacuuming to waste meant that all the dust was sent out of the pool so it couldn't return. If I had vacuumed on the filter setting then there would have been too much dust for the filter to cope with so some of it would have returned to the pool. Thanks for watching.
@@EasyPoolCleaning Thank you so much for your reply.
You're welcome
the returns aren't marked on my system so I need to try and err
Did you work it out?
Where should i put my filter waste or backwash
It depends on your situation. I run out my backwash hose into my front garden. You could divert it to a convenient drain perhaps.
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Did you use flocculant before you do this?
I didn't in this case and don't normally
Do you have any experience with filters using crystals? I was told they would keep the pool cleaner. My sand filter needed to be replaced with one using crystals and it's a disaster now trying to get my pool clean.
Not crystals I haven't. What sort of crystals? I use glass beads now.
@@EasyPoolCleaning I will find out Monday when the installer comes to add more crystals. When it was first installed the filter pressure went high after each clean forcing me to backwash after each clean. (Didn't need to do that with my old sand filter). That doesn't happen now. After my last clean the pump went off on the timer. Next morning the pool was still clean. 24 hours after the pump came back on with the timer it was dirty like I hadn't cleaned it. Demoralising.
I don't suppose the dirt is dead algae is it?
I don't think so. Just normal calima sand@@EasyPoolCleaning
@@EasyPoolCleaning I used to have a 500mm sand filter. However, the guy who replaced it when it became faulty decided to put a 400mm filter in with crystals. I've never had the pool clean since. Today I'm having it ripped out and a new 500mm filter put in with sand again. 500 euros loss. The initial installer doesn't care my pool isn't clean. He thinks if the pressure gauge is O.K then everything is perfect!
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@@EasyPoolCleaning thanks
There's a special head for vinyl pools, if that's what that is?
You are right Peter. There is a special head you can buy for vinyl pools but here in Fuerteventura you have to buy what is available. I have used similar heads to this for 8 years and the previous owner before me too without any problems though. They say the average lifespan of a vinyl liner is 8-12 years but this one is almost 20 years old and is still good. Thanks for your comment.
@@EasyPoolCleaning we have a concrete pool here in Mexico and use the flat head kind. Thanks for your video. I watch them all, hoping to find new nuggets of information! Strong winds!
Thanks Peter. Now that the swimming season is about to start again I will be able to make some more soon.
I dont have waste on my filter any suggestions
Do you have a sand, DE or cartridge filter?
@@EasyPoolCleaning nope sandfilter
That's odd, every multiport valve I have seen has a waste setting. Do you have an outlet in the system to drain the pool? If so, then you could open that and vacuum.
Oh I thought so too but leave it to my husband to buy that odd one
Another way is to use a robotic pool cleaner, which sucks the dirty into its own filter. What do you think?
yes you can, but depending on how dirty your pool is, it may mean a lot of trips back and forth cleaning out the robot. I prefer the method in this video.
Agreed. When a pool is this dirty the filter in a robotic pool cleaner simply couldn't cope. Plus a pool robot moves quite a lot of water as it goes so it is likely to disturb much of the dirt which will go into suspension and then settle back on the bottom some time afterwards.
turn off your power before adjusting from WASTE to FILTER. And always turn the adjuster in a clock wise direction only. I know this is an old video, but i just found it.
I do turn the pump off in the video but having just watched the video again after all these years I can't believe I turned the valve handle straight from waste to filter as I never do that!
Hey whenever i vaccuum there is always a bit of dead algae that poofs out and then clouds up the water so i can never fully get all of them without disturbing the pile. Then the algae settles like 3 hours later. Any tipsv
Where does it come out from? The return jets?
@@EasyPoolCleaning no like when im vacuuming the pile at the bottom doesnt stay on the floor but instead poofs up when i move my vacuum head near it. Therefore i only really get like 70% of the pile and then 30% gets poofed up
I understand. It is very light so you have to move the vacuum very slowly. What kind of vacuum head do you have? I find that those with brushes around the edge are not good for this as they disturb the algae dust before it gets sucked up. The best are those with just wheels such as this one www.amazon.com/dp/B01JYX4WPW/?tag=easypoolcleaning-20
@@EasyPoolCleaning yea my vacuum head has brushes around the edge is one of those triangle one
@@TgrjyeI have the same vacuum head and have the same problem! Glad I found your comment! Will be getting a brushless vacuum head today!
From my understanding there is not a filter on planet Earth that will filter the green micro particles in a pool. It must be vacuumed to waste, correct?
The green will either be algae which can, to some extent, be trapped by a filter. But in my experience the only way to get rid of it is to shock to kill it and then, when it is dead and the water is clear, vacuum to waste to remove it totally. If the green is due to metals in the water being oxidized (so the water may have a green color but will still be clear) then a filter will generally not be able to trap that until it you have used a sequestrant.
I am vacuuming on waste and it is blowing back into the pool...
Then you are not vacuuming on waste Tracy. On waste the water bypasses the filter and is ejected from the pool system; it doesn't go back into the pool. Where does the water go when you backwash?
@@EasyPoolCleaning it is going out the waste hose, but while vacuuming on waste it is going out the waste hose AND blowing back into the pool..
Without seeing your setup it is difficult to say. If water is coming out of your backwash/waste hose and also going back into the pool it may be a problem with your multiport valve, perhaps a faulty gasket, that is allowing water to go to the waste and back to the pool.
@@EasyPoolCleaning ok I just replaced the whole valve and spider gasket, It filters fine, but for some reason it is blowing back in and out the waste at the same time..when on waste..thank you so much
I hope you get it sorted. It still sounds like some water is leaking between the waste section in the valve and an adjacent section.