Part 3 Addiesdive AD2023-AC PT5000 Movement Service & Inspection ETA 2824-2
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- čas přidán 29. 10. 2023
- Part 3 of a deep dive review into the best 60's vintage Rolex Explorer homage from Addiesdive watches.
The review covers detailed views, extensive testing of the watch and movement & a strip, inspection & rebuild of the PT5000 (ETA 2824-2 clone) movement.
Link to the watch on the AD site is below, Please note, I have no affiliation with Addiesdive, nor get any affiliate kick back hence there are no codes or offers besides what Addiesdive may themselves offer.
I purchased this watch myself from the same link.
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I have one on its way for my Seadweller project 👍🏼
Thank you for posting this! I've never worked on a watch and I want to try my hand at fixing one with a pt5000 that's having an issue with the date turning over. This will be very helpful!
Good luck with it. Give me a shout if you need to know anything.
I've wondered what these Chinese PT5000's look like disassembled. Seems like good quality! Thanks for the video.
Very good quality. With the exception of the close detail of a couple of parts you'd be hard pressed to tell one from a base ETA.
Your video gave me the confidence I needed to disassemble and reassemble a doa PT5000 instead of sending it back and waiting for shipping. I had not regulated a movement before, let alone taken one down. My issue seemed to have been a stuck canon pinion. To my surprise, it tested great on my timegrapher after and I'm glad to have learned a new skill. Thank you so much!
Have you stripped and re assembled many watch movements? How difficult is the pt5000 in comparison?
I have watched part 1 to 3, now that it’s 2 month later, could you make another video about this watch talking about the positives and negatives? And maybe do a water resistance test. There’s something special about this explorer homage. Glad I found your channel recently! Keep up the good work.
I shall put the update on the list of videos to do.
Just recently i've been exhausted with work and unwell and have a few but certainly will do an update.
It's a beautiful watch and i'm finding myself wearing it a lot more than previous new ones.
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I e been hesitant about gerting any watch with a PT5000 in it. After taking one apart and rebuilding it, what do you think. I know it has a smoother sweep than an NH35, but those movements are well tested and virtually bulletproof.
The ETA 2824-2 has been around far far longer than the NH35 and used in many quality watches.
The PT5000 is a clone of that.
The only problem with any in a cheap Chinese homage watch is dirt, the exact same risk applies to NH35's, Miyota 9015 etc
Movements are bought in bulk in non sealed packaging and fitted in whatever assembly conditions they're fitted in.
Could be a hermetically sealed clean factory, could be someones grandmas kitchen table while she's making dinner for the family.
The build and quality isn't quite ETA or Sellita levels of finishing but it's excellent (did you know they made a PT5000 which passed COSC certification?)
As said, any cheaper chinese brand you buy has a risk of dirt ingress from assembly line conditions and that's the biggest risk, however, replacement movements are cheap.
Very fascinating video! Thanks for posting. I just got a San Martin with a PT5000 and im loving it. Just curious is it easy to regulate? Its already very accurate but im just curious. Is it just a matter of turning the + - screw thingy? Ive regulated my beater seiko 6309 myself but not too confident about this movement.
It's as easy as any movement to regulate. The small screw is for fine tuning and will allow approximately +/- 10spd, for coarser adjustments the regulating arm needs to be moved and itself you need to have the automatic winding bridge removed for better access.
@@spidiq8 Got it! Thanks for the response. Cheers!
will be good,to show spec before and after service, timegraf too.
its posible to my steeldive 1970 with NH35 lose or gain only 1 sec/day ? a have tham one month and he is dead precise ?
I show the timegrapher readings fresh out of the box, after a week and after service in the series.
Mechanical movements can often be very precise yes, even the cheaper ones, a lot depends on the wear pattern, activities, temperatures etc.
Buen movimiento ❤
In the last video, you mentioned the case back. After wearing a Steeldive willard homage watch, I noticed the engraving (etching) to be extremely sharp. So much so that it cut the hair on my arm. The Addiesdive version is very similar. I had to polish the case back to relieve the edges of the design. Have you noticed that on this particular watch?
Not in the slightest. Though it's deeply etched there's nothing sharp on it and I wore it for 15 days straight other than removing it for timegrapher tests and regulating.
Interestingly my steeldive Willard has a plain smooth case back. No etching.
@@spidiq8 I had my concerns, so that is good to know. Looks like my CFO (wife) is going to be a little upset when she finds out I bought yet another watch. Lol
@@jeff1176 It's better to ask for forgiveness than permission. 😆
Спасибо за видео
Sorry, another query, Ive only ever dis and tried to re assemble a Smiths Empire pocket watch and tinkered and broken an old Timex m24 movement. I know they are difficult to work on and the Timex isnt for taking apart fully, anyway they both shattered my confidence and havent attempted another dis/re assembly. What movement would you recommend for a 1st dis/reassembly? Are these better swiss designed movements easier to work on? If I cant put the Smiths pocket watch back together do you think I dont have the eyes and hands for this work :). I do have basic tools, loupes , screw drivers, etc. Thx again spidy
I also did 2 years .mechanical/electrical engineering and really love this subject and want to get into it more.
For a first one to build confidence I recommend a brand new Seagull ST36 or the ETA6497/8 it's a copy of.
Starting with a brand new one will tell you if you've rebuilt and lubricated it well as it will already run so you're not trying to diagnose faults from scratch.
These movements were pocket watch movements before wristwatch and are a stalwart of the watch industry, they're as simple as they get and the size is great for handling a practice, most students begin on this.
Things like the Seiko 7S26 / NH35 etc are ok but they have some specific Seiko foibles so i'd suggest those if you primarily intend to work on Seiko for mods etc.
After you've mastered the ST you can move to one of the ETA auto copies such as the PT5000, the beauty of the chinese clones is that they're legal exact copies, (due to patent expiry) and they affordable.
Brilliant! Thank you!
Hi again :). I bought this Addie Ex homage with the Pt5000 also. Thanks to you're videos I opened and regulated it. It was performing similar to yours. Now it gains half a sec a day :). Im gonna attempt to get that speck of lume off the addie 2028 this week. Thank to these videos, thank you sir. Very helpful. Please, did you find the pt5000 to be lubricated well enough for longterm, everyday wearing on wrist, or do you feel it has inadequate lubrication? Thx again spidiq8.
did the lube in main spring barrel fix the gritty winding?
My particular one, (because i'm picky possibly) I would say was inadequate in the lubrication accuracy and amount, some slightly messy application.
I don't know if that's common but as is i'd have expected to see timing variations after about a year but I would expect it to still be running.
Because these are produced more cheaply than the Swiss counterparts there'll be corners cut re the cleanliness of assembly lines and whether the lubrication is automated or manual.
A well calibrated auto oiling line will have more accuracy than manual.
Think monday morning enthusiasm to friday afternoon quality in a factory environment.
I've disassembled cheap DG movements before for fun and found them bone dry from brand new, they're the type you used to find in old fake watches and they'd run for maybe a couple of months.
Yes it did, the grating was from the bridle slipping with inadequate application of braking grease.
Nice one spidiq8 :)
Hi, Please, I have the ad2118 and recieved the ad2028 with the pt5000 last week, unfortunately it has a small speck of debris on the dial :( Im thinking of removing the movement myself to get rid of the speck, but have heard the stem and crown is a nightmare on the pt5000, especially to put back in. Please, can you confirm this? The watch is running + 2 and a half secs fast everyday, its amazing! Do you think I should attempt it or get a pro to do it? I do have tools and some basic experience on old timex and pocketwatch movements, which were a nightmare too lol. Any advice would be great. The watch is like a £100 silver dial op. in looks and performance. Ive seen defects like this on Rolexes' and Grand Seiko's, it can happen to any watch. :(
I meant to say, I read the keyless works on the pt5000 and eta it is cloned from is tricky and possibly a bad design and the crown and stem are difficult to put back in?
They're not as bad as many would have you believe, the biggest problem comes from then being pressed in too far to release the stem.
The key is to pull out the crown to the setting position and with a screwdriver tip of about 1mm use this to press the detent, you'll note the space is slotted specifically for this purpose, this ensures that you don't press it too far.
When reinserting apply a little pressure on the detent with the same screwdriver as you press in the stem and it should click into place.
Are you a fan of the prisoner 60's TV series btw?
wow, thank you for the reply. Yes, I saw a little gromet that another chap put a screwdriver into before he took out the stem and crown on another vid. I'm going back to watch part 1 & 2 of your vids, I didn't realise there were 2 previous vids. I'm in communicstion with Addiesdive and they are looking at pics, but I'd rather try it myself if not too tricky. I dont have a tool for their caseback but can get one, thou I bet its very tight, their braclet and whole construction are very well built. with excellent tolerances. Thx again :). Is that the one with Patrick Macgoon? I was young but liked it yes lol.
lol I assume you asked about Prisoner because of my name? Actually its another 60/70's reference to the band King Crimson and 21st Century Schizoid Man :). my fav
well, not a silver dial op lol, but an old 80's/90's hi beat King/Grand Seiko yes. Its The Nuts.