The Plus Side To Solo Queue Nobody Talks About - Road To Predator #4

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  • The Plus Side To Solo Queue Nobody Talks About - Road To Predator #4
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Komentáře • 134

  • @MrLJ4444
    @MrLJ4444 Před 3 měsíci +149

    Imagine just regularly playing apex and suddenly you're in a gaming merchant vid, I like the unique idea of showcasing positivity instead of toxic teammates

    • @Cometkreatura
      @Cometkreatura Před 3 měsíci +4

      i somehow queued into him once a while back, when he was still doing his weapon challenge series. I was on stream and felt super dope

    • @mcswizz9609
      @mcswizz9609 Před 3 měsíci +13

      You know a game's culture is toxic when positivity is a unique idea lol

    • @samueldawkins
      @samueldawkins Před 3 měsíci

      it isn't unique and the word toxic is overused.@@mcswizz9609

    • @sunflowera214
      @sunflowera214 Před 3 měsíci

      I play with him once, he barely do call or join voice at all

  • @DukeofRizz
    @DukeofRizz Před 3 měsíci +36

    "lets play safe"
    "i dont want peace. i want problems always!"
    - pushes enemy teams
    - wins

    • @HUNTER_IS_THE_NAME
      @HUNTER_IS_THE_NAME Před 3 měsíci

      When there is coms i swear it makes a lot of difference, i win almost every game when my randoms use mics or at least ping

    • @DaveHesterYUUUUUUUP
      @DaveHesterYUUUUUUUP Před 2 měsíci

      Thats the only way brother, if a man goes down he will have to spectate me win the game

  • @r00t9rRust
    @r00t9rRust Před 3 měsíci +107

    I was the maggie in the first match!! Nice match with some kp. GGs

    • @loadergt6248
      @loadergt6248 Před 3 měsíci +5

      why do you not upload doe ı loved your content

    • @friend7681
      @friend7681 Před 3 měsíci

      Learn how to talk properly

    • @r00t9rRust
      @r00t9rRust Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@loadergt6248 ehm let's say im a bit lazy on yt content....lost so much content on rust and it's all my fault...im still new to apex!

    • @elgopniko7458
      @elgopniko7458 Před 3 měsíci +1

      helloooo rooooter how are you doing

    • @friend7681
      @friend7681 Před 3 měsíci

      Learn to talk properly

  • @timl2665
    @timl2665 Před 3 měsíci +33

    Nice! That "Last MnK Jedi" guy is a streamer I used to watch named r00t9r. 🤣 I was like, wait I know that voice!

    • @GrogedUp
      @GrogedUp Před 3 měsíci +1

      He made a comment like 10 below yours

  • @Agitated_Hamster
    @Agitated_Hamster Před 3 měsíci +3

    Mine has been the opposite experience. Every game I’m playing with trash teammates. I’m used to playing with Masters and Preds, but I keep playing with noobs that die right off the bat and then complain that I didn’t drop hot and die immediately.

  • @nofreehooks
    @nofreehooks Před 3 měsíci +12

    1:00 using the wall as a stepladder is hella smart. Never thought about this.

  • @dudevibestalker1070
    @dudevibestalker1070 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Just wanted to leave a rare comment myself, because I’m just loving these videos. Perfect mix of educational while still being lots of fun to watch.

  • @mestreatfield7842
    @mestreatfield7842 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Loving these longer vids and your climb to pred

  • @MattayManiac
    @MattayManiac Před 3 měsíci

    Said it yesterday but loving this series merch! Good to see the ups and the downs of ranked

  • @killikoi1
    @killikoi1 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I have played with that maggie couple times already. Chill dude knowing how to play the game.

  • @Matwew21
    @Matwew21 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I love this series. The streams are some of the best I've watched from you, and since there's no MMR or predetermined placement games i can actually relate to what I'm watching. Good luck on the grind man

  • @Venatra01
    @Venatra01 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I like how he keeps judging the Caustic players for using ults too early in this series😆

  • @argonthe_polygon
    @argonthe_polygon Před 3 měsíci +3

    I love this series so much I’m excited to see you play in the higher ranks

  • @TheMonkeydela
    @TheMonkeydela Před 3 měsíci +8

    I've had great teamates for the most part but my opponents are just hyper cracked. I just managed to squeeze out a dubb in gold 1 but for the past 3 days it's been 10th - 7th place finishes and -20 or +10 pts. Valk carried me to gold but it just fell off hard, suprisingly enough its Rampart that gives me the most effect these days. The safety to res anywhere and the pressure of Shiela behind a wall is just unmatched.

    • @MLG_Autumn
      @MLG_Autumn Před 3 měsíci +1

      It sucks you get punished at top 6 and 7, with 4kills or less kills. Because teams won't fight

    • @DankLeaf47
      @DankLeaf47 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Bro fr I'm gold 1 too and end games have been on ALGS time with 7 teams plus near end game I've had luck with lifeline this season

    • @updownleftright883
      @updownleftright883 Před 3 měsíci

      Its mainly teammates that are the problem i have. Not because their bad, its trolls who just fly off map, solo drop, afkers, try to get us killed or loot goblin everything.

    • @aaronj.5414
      @aaronj.5414 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@DankLeaf47I literally just got out of gold after being stuck in gold 1 for a week lol

  • @atdynax
    @atdynax Před 3 měsíci +4

    That Revenant being the last one reminded me of my match where i was also a Revenant, both teammates down and finding the last two teams. Only diffrence is that i won.

  • @doobyitsred1784
    @doobyitsred1784 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Key word, At high ranks

  • @GerryLo5198
    @GerryLo5198 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I solo queued to Pred and stayed there in Season 16, granted it was on console so it wasn’t anything too crazy. But the solo queue experience is weird. Since you know that you’re probably not gonna play with them again it gives you a certain freedom to play how you normally play with your mates or whatever. And you can really pop off in solo queue sometimes, but ultimately it depends on your randoms and how well you stick together. You gotta play like a nucleus, no more than 5-15M from each other. Then spread out accordingly in a fight, and things will go well usually. And then when you LFG, there’s a strange pressure to perform. You see the badges of these players and their possible history but you can’t really grasp how good a player is in one game, which can go horribly wrong sometimes.
    My advice? Find a group that you’re really comfortable playing with and that you synergize well with. High level apex has no room for being timid or hesitant, you need to be able to feel free to run whatever play you want because another squad is going to be doing just that. And the squad that strikes first always has the initiative and advantage. It’s very instinct based at the Master/ Pred level, if you truly are at that level of experience and skill. I would never solo queue again to Pred, and I’m currently trying different groups to some success. Solo queue is too inconsistent for success, having one cracked teammate and a really good 3rd that you can have fun and be free with is all you need to climb the ranks boys, good luck. Conduit, Caustic, Bloodhound and Revenant are super OP this season, run at least 2 of those legends at all times boys.

  • @_ScarCrow
    @_ScarCrow Před 3 měsíci +1

    Not me in High Gold that get teammates who run off on their own die, then i Respawn and they do the same and write that i am bad the entire game, and i end up Winning after they leave.

  • @user-ii9rw4ev6n
    @user-ii9rw4ev6n Před 3 měsíci

    3:11 if iam the enemy ill report this rampart FR hahaha

  • @yuruic
    @yuruic Před 3 měsíci +3

    in the intro clip you could've just use voice chat and tell him don't grab the gold helmet

  • @akeno3872
    @akeno3872 Před 3 měsíci

    octane looting gold res and helmet when there's a lifeline, Newcastle or etc in the team is peak solo queue experience

  • @Rafalucija
    @Rafalucija Před 3 měsíci

    Interesting series, we have similar playstyles. One thing I learned when climbing ranks is you need to recognize when your teammate is just the goat and better than you, when I see that I just always back him up and these are some of the easiest wins I ever get.

  • @sashamakeev7547
    @sashamakeev7547 Před 3 měsíci

    Yeah i always forget about other teams thats left if they are quiet. And then we push and that other team joins on us.

  • @levanoon9286
    @levanoon9286 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I sometimes complain being stuck (don’t get me wrong, I really like the comp system and think it is way better then the previous seasons) but seeing gaming merchant who casually drops 20bombs and 4Ks, just being 2 divisions above me, makes me think I’m in the right rank

  • @axelgonzalez6745
    @axelgonzalez6745 Před 3 měsíci

    The apex discord is good for finding teammates!!!

  • @ghost_9384
    @ghost_9384 Před 3 měsíci

    I had a little apex break and just started playing ranked again
    But i have a better experience with sbmm and my mates than the last 12 seasons

  • @killerbait8240
    @killerbait8240 Před 3 měsíci +1

    im stuck at gold 3 never had any good team mates since im in asia region and always get teamed up with sweaty chinese players. i had one chinese friend but he stopped playing

  • @illrated
    @illrated Před 3 měsíci +2

    Literally why people had issues with the hidden MMR. Higher level players always being paired with plat and below. After hitting diamond you're literally carrying 2 noobs every game.

  • @weegeboi64gaming53
    @weegeboi64gaming53 Před 3 měsíci +2

    God i hope soloq can be viable, 3stacks are all over rn

  • @yeah3708
    @yeah3708 Před 3 měsíci +1

    That revenant must've been from Vietnam

    • @_TeeVee_
      @_TeeVee_ Před 3 měsíci +1

      THEYRE IN THE TREES

  • @MistyAndBonnie
    @MistyAndBonnie Před 3 měsíci

    How can i see my current global ranking while playing?

  • @txma.
    @txma. Před 3 měsíci +1

    That vantage's name would've annoyed me the entire game taking up that much of my screen

  • @rion354
    @rion354 Před 2 měsíci

    I generally play solo because im really new too the game and honestly feel bad for dragging the team down cause i dont have the movement down or know what character I vibe with or what even what weapons are decent. Which is weird cause i dont mind sucking in overwatch 😂

  • @hxllxw5527
    @hxllxw5527 Před 3 měsíci +1

    This might be true for US servers, but there's a huge amount of people in EU who don't speak English and the language barrier makes comms way more difficult. A lot of the people I get teamed with barely grasp any English at all

  • @Y2Kennedy
    @Y2Kennedy Před 3 měsíci

    Solo Q has been so much better this season

  • @pedroreis6829
    @pedroreis6829 Před 3 měsíci

    The mad maggie that you loved is a Rust/apex streamer, known in the rust community, his Nickname is r00t9r

  • @himbri4n
    @himbri4n Před 3 měsíci

    I’ve always been a solo que warrior. this has to be the best season or top 2 of all seasons I’ve played as far as teammates. though there’s still the nonsense & bs but it’s been nice change of pace. I wonder how much had to do with how bad ranked was last season my least played season)?
    solo que will always be a rough grind

  • @aswehdebrej
    @aswehdebrej Před 3 měsíci +1

    I've played in many different servers and each player in different servers has unique characteristics
    any NA - It's random, sometimes they get toxic when you don't comm so much but I rarely get really bad teammates
    Hongkong/Taiwan - Most of them don't have game sense, they loot so much. This is one of the best server to climb up when you're in a full team.
    Singapore - Most of them are very good players, they're good at combat, they're selfish, but not hard looters, not few of them are toxic tho.
    Sydney - I didn't have more than 15 matches in this server, but many of them are fun to play with, basically enjoying the game, they're cool.
    Frankfurt - they barely comm, unless they had a friend in their team.
    Bangladesh - Once they comm, they complain so much. But if they are cool and good players, they comm but don't complain.
    Tokyo - Don't play in this server unless you really want to get better and have a really good sense. Every single person in this server makes good comms, high game sense, and good aim. Most of them are cool, but they don't speak english. Have you seen thousand movement players? It's nothing compared to these players.

  • @blackheart1798
    @blackheart1798 Před 3 měsíci +1

    1st thing's first, why didn't you take the golden helmet when he was running towards you 😢

  • @rickycanupsmashedbutwhole808
    @rickycanupsmashedbutwhole808 Před 3 měsíci +2

    My randoms aren't the problem it's the three stack preds while I have no coms.

  • @AbusingEgo
    @AbusingEgo Před 3 měsíci

    I feel every time I get 9+ kp we just die 5th 😢 unfortunate

  • @Intrepidusone
    @Intrepidusone Před 3 měsíci

    Jeraux the horizon who said no to anything but top 3 is a ALGS CC Player so not surprized you got a great game in with him

  • @lury5430
    @lury5430 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Solo queuing was easy until I got to plat 3

  • @The_Vector_God
    @The_Vector_God Před 3 měsíci

    Tip: if you want good teammates grind ranked for 5-8 hours a day in the first week and you will get the best teammates you can ask for.

  • @meruthirteen1505
    @meruthirteen1505 Před 3 měsíci +2

    i think the guy in the first game is a rust streamer.

  • @brendanmobley45
    @brendanmobley45 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Solo queuing. Currently plat 4. Earlier today was plat 3, then tank to demotion of plat 4. Any tips or strategies to get out of plat 4?

    • @knockoutslap
      @knockoutslap Před 3 měsíci +2

      Time to team up if you are stuck solo. Or play Loba and run away to craft banners to extend those top 5 streaks.

    • @brendanmobley45
      @brendanmobley45 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@knockoutslap thank you

    • @nzkuro
      @nzkuro Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@brendanmobley45tip: don't listen to any advise that makes you play loba.

  • @napsy27
    @napsy27 Před 3 měsíci

    I found that solo queuing this season, at least for now, is pretty good rn. A complete 180° from season 19

    • @ThisIsMyRodrick
      @ThisIsMyRodrick Před 3 měsíci +1

      yeah definitely, its a nice feeling. matchmaking still sucks but its nowhere near as bad.

    • @kingklipo
      @kingklipo Před 3 měsíci

      @@ThisIsMyRodrick I'm curious how you think match making sucks

    • @CrossOverItaly
      @CrossOverItaly Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@kingklipofinding preds in the other team and being paired with lv 60 noobs maybe ?

    • @kingklipo
      @kingklipo Před 3 měsíci

      @@CrossOverItaly I dont believe that's happening to you in ranked. It pairs you with same rp mfers now.

    • @ThisIsMyRodrick
      @ThisIsMyRodrick Před 3 měsíci

      @@kingklipo I think you missed my point. Matchmaking is still bad in some cases as its way too random but I am not complaining. its way better than it was.

  • @corelleague8132
    @corelleague8132 Před 3 měsíci

    How do i see what number i am in the world just like he does? Like he is number 19k in the world or whatever

  • @jaysonmejia4245
    @jaysonmejia4245 Před 3 měsíci

    i’m solo queuing , now in plat 4, quit playing because i keep going up against triple stack preds and masters ever game . with bronze level random teammates

  • @nzkuro
    @nzkuro Před 3 měsíci

    Do I need to become a contest creator to get randoms that can talk before they die? I am currently in D4 and only get randoms that are low plat and play with their low gold duo, dont talk, die without doing a smither of dmg and I am the one losing 80 rp 😢 I like the idea of having matchmaking based on your rp.....if I would at least get one round with mates of similar rp....

  • @cameronprempeh5505
    @cameronprempeh5505 Před 3 měsíci

    That rev was ratting to masters couple seasons ago

  • @davidthorne5715
    @davidthorne5715 Před 3 měsíci

    Bro I’d leave if my octane took the gold helmet. I enjoy playing with randoms though. I find myself getting frustrated playing with the same teammates especially when I’m just trying to stay alive and get good placement and play smart

  • @dslight113
    @dslight113 Před 3 měsíci +1

    solo Q is only easier if you are a very good player , most people depend on there team mates 2 make up for there ability of shooting .
    like me.

  • @Tyfume
    @Tyfume Před 3 měsíci +1

    I've had so many Platinum players being toxic to me because they don't know how to pick their fights & blame me for it and leaving.😂 I'm a diamond player & I'm not trying to lose more rp.

    • @samueldawkins
      @samueldawkins Před 3 měsíci

      so many players don't know how to pick fights. It is a skill that I think takes the longest for players to acquire.

  • @smart_watson
    @smart_watson Před 3 měsíci +2

    Plus size

  • @RupertOW
    @RupertOW Před 3 měsíci +1

    im plat 4 and still getting teammates that are brone and silver or gold

  • @XenomorphTerror
    @XenomorphTerror Před 3 měsíci +1

    BAN THE CHRONUS ZEN, AND ALL PLAYERS WHO'VE USED IT!!!!!!!!!

  • @kikominoto9365
    @kikominoto9365 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Play good and get good teammates. The people who are complaining about it now are the people who want to be carried

  • @doobyitsred1784
    @doobyitsred1784 Před 3 měsíci

    Thats because Mad maggie is another streamer called Rooter....

  • @mytosandoox1991
    @mytosandoox1991 Před 3 měsíci

    solo q, i do 2-4k dmg and up to 15 kills in ranked, still i get lvl 60 teammates

  • @DoubleDLyrical
    @DoubleDLyrical Před 3 měsíci

    I'm not sure but I think if your random teammates don't know who you really are you'd see a different side. I could be wrong. Just my opinion 🤷🏽‍♂️ Keep up the good work @TheGamingMerchant

    • @MikeGrau0hr
      @MikeGrau0hr Před 3 měsíci

      hes picking the good ones for this vid :) just like we should focus on those more.

  • @mshus4901
    @mshus4901 Před 3 měsíci +2

    25:32 what is that id bro 💀

  • @xGhstt
    @xGhstt Před 3 měsíci

    I'm in Plat 2 on console and am having to face off against full teams of current preds, is that supposed to be happening? Is it just due to my current rank compared to the majority of players? I figured that there would be enough people in diamond by now to let me avoid going against the top players lol. Can any console bros let me know if they are going through this too? Also, have you already started to have to deal with 6 manners? I've ran into a couple already ffs.

  • @Toasted_2-9
    @Toasted_2-9 Před 3 měsíci

    As a person who does not like using a mic I feel like this would be impossible for me

    • @Jaceftp
      @Jaceftp Před 3 měsíci +1

      You got to get over that fear.

    • @flembrane5265
      @flembrane5265 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Used to be the same way, but I got used to it. You don't really have to talk all the time, only in situations where pinging is just not enough.

  • @FAKKER_rap
    @FAKKER_rap Před 3 měsíci +1

    Same shi randoms hotdrop and die in plat instantly

  • @jasonhurdlow6607
    @jasonhurdlow6607 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Wow, this vid just highlights how much Sheila needs a nerf (cooldown probably).

    • @knockoutslap
      @knockoutslap Před 3 měsíci

      Nah, she's such a weak legend, she deserves Sheila being great.

  • @youraverageconsoleplayer9172

    You must get so lucky. I’m in plat 3 right now and all I get are people with crazy stats and no brains. Must be bought accounts or something because it’s actually so pathetic

  • @eurovisionwtf
    @eurovisionwtf Před 2 měsíci

    They only know how to shoot, when the octane has the gold knockdown shield and not the mirage..

  • @bw8935
    @bw8935 Před 3 měsíci

    If your excellent at the game or cheating, solo que is great. The game got easier for better players, that's lovely.

  • @michaelwilliam2270
    @michaelwilliam2270 Před 3 měsíci

    Randoms are hit or miss

  • @Jaboncitoso
    @Jaboncitoso Před 3 měsíci

    I Just carry 2 randoms Witherspoon 0 kilos and Windows the marcha Witherspoon 5 kills

  • @setokaiba5312
    @setokaiba5312 Před 3 měsíci

    Yh so easy when u get random that hotdrop or rush in the middle of 10 other players so easy its easier to jump and rat again to finally get 1 damn point

  • @knockoutslap
    @knockoutslap Před 3 měsíci

    If you rush solo Q you have better teammates but harder opponents...if you wait until the final few weeks you get trash teammates but easier lobbies so it's damned if you do, damned if you don't.

    • @avoid6485
      @avoid6485 Před 3 měsíci

      not necessarily, its really dependent on how good you are as a player. because if you are able to win early season with good teammates, then you dont need to wait till later in the season because you can win in the harder lobbies. but if you arent the greatest i would wait

    • @MikeGrau0hr
      @MikeGrau0hr Před 3 měsíci

      and if you dont solo q nothings damned. up to you 💀

  • @zynosgd9982
    @zynosgd9982 Před 3 měsíci

    Not only that, I feel like when you solo Q, you play against less 3-stacks. There are still some but way less. I literally have a better time climbing right now Solo-Q than playing with my friends who are as skilled, if not more, than I am. Maybe it's just weird luck, though.

    • @MikeGrau0hr
      @MikeGrau0hr Před 3 měsíci

      nah youre not the only one experiencing this :) nothing new tho.

    • @zynosgd9982
      @zynosgd9982 Před 3 měsíci

      @@MikeGrau0hr it might just be that when I solo Q I run at people with no thoughts in my mind, since I can't really talk and get decent strategy. Thing is, my mechanics are good so it often works out fairly well. I just run Horizon and Feed face and go on a kill spree. I almost never win but I often get top 3/2 with a good 4-10 KP

    • @MikeGrau0hr
      @MikeGrau0hr Před 3 měsíci

      @@zynosgd9982 yep that is to be taken in account aswell ofc - but its definately tendencies. if youre 3 stacking the game is *trying* to put you against 3 stacks.

  • @Nikolas5842
    @Nikolas5842 Před 3 měsíci

    +1

  • @adammiller9029
    @adammiller9029 Před 2 měsíci

    Merch: My team mates are amazing: Me: *Listening to team mates scream at merch on his stream.* Kay. Also you're stating that you're a high rank apex player getting grouped with other high rank players. That's a really huge selection bias.... of course most people have a difference experience than. The math doesn't permit it.

  • @Keats411
    @Keats411 Před 3 měsíci

    We need duos ranked

  •  Před 3 měsíci

    Why you look like gotham chess

  • @dmarsh9993
    @dmarsh9993 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Don’t agree. No upside to playing solo in a team orientated game.. and I only solo q. If solos were a thing then we could make this video but don’t ever try to paint soloing as being easier than stacking, ever. Lol. If you only 3 stack the game is on easy mode. If you can’t gain more LP with a stack compared to playing solo you got bigger issues at large..

    • @scrcrw183
      @scrcrw183 Před 2 měsíci

      Thats not right. At certain points, 3stacking is a hell. Not rare after we get clapped 4 times in a row we decide to regain some points solo, then go again. Its more than real

  • @lucalemay9997
    @lucalemay9997 Před 3 měsíci

    Such toxic teammates this season. 😢

  • @ShaeStreams
    @ShaeStreams Před 3 měsíci

    the maggie was a streamer named roo9r he's a rust giga chad and an apex giga chad

  • @sketrick732
    @sketrick732 Před 3 měsíci

    Come to europe 9 out of 10 matches ether there's no comms or they speak another language.

  • @sebastianedwards6731
    @sebastianedwards6731 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Path could’ve been soft cheater

  • @FlareJet468
    @FlareJet468 Před 3 měsíci

    My teammates are always so bad it’s not even funny and they are always rude when we die does anyone want to play

  • @antimidas345
    @antimidas345 Před 3 měsíci

    fifth?

  • @weth6218
    @weth6218 Před 3 měsíci

    Third?

  • @Foxybeetle
    @Foxybeetle Před 3 měsíci +1

    First

  • @Mr.rat.56473
    @Mr.rat.56473 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Pp

  • @Midas681
    @Midas681 Před 3 měsíci

    Pin please because I’m human

  • @FlockersDesign
    @FlockersDesign Před 3 měsíci +1

    Na man ranked is still broken even in gold and higher you still get paired or play against rookies

  • @SuperlexPlays
    @SuperlexPlays Před 3 měsíci +1

    *THIS COMMENT WONT GET 68 LIKES* [

  • @XenomorphTerror
    @XenomorphTerror Před 3 měsíci +1

    BAN THE CHRONUS ZEN, AND ALL PLAYERS WHO'VE USED IT!!!!!!!!!

  • @XenomorphTerror
    @XenomorphTerror Před 3 měsíci +1

    BAN THE CHRONUS ZEN, AND ALL PLAYERS WHO'VE USED IT!!!!!!!!!

  • @XenomorphTerror
    @XenomorphTerror Před 3 měsíci +1

    BAN THE CHRONUS ZEN, AND ALL PLAYERS WHO'VE USED IT!!!!!!!!!

  • @XenomorphTerror
    @XenomorphTerror Před 3 měsíci +1

    BAN THE CHRONUS ZEN, AND ALL PLAYERS WHO'VE USED IT!!!!!!!!!