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- Let's talk about the Rudy Gobert trade, along with the Malcolm Brogdon trade and what the Nets are doing. Enjoy!
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Reminder about how screwed the Nets truly are: blowing it up and tanking makes no sense when the Houston Rockets own all your first round picks until 2028.
Clearly the Nets never learned from that trade in 2013, they tried to get a big 3 and failed, only to try again 7-8 years later with similar trades/signings and fail again.
They gave up 3 picks. The pick swaps will likely never happen. They are 2021, 2023, 2025 and 2027. Nets will likely be better than Houston in all those years because they will be a playoff team based on whatever players they get for KD, plus the 3 picks they gave up will get replaced with equal or better ones, likely 4 in total, so the comparison isn't accurate nor is them not having future draft picks.
@@wishtheworldwasdifferent8235 Houston has a good, young core, and the city always does well attracting free agents. Houston has a bright future and will be back sooner than you think. The Nets, meanwhile? Remember, the Nets thought the same thing when they made that Celtics trade a decade ago, how did that work out? The moral should have been clear from that: never trade all your picks for anyone. It takes away one of the greatest sources of leverage the Nets have in dealing with KD and Kyrie. You guys want to sit out a year while we try to trade you? Fine, we'll suck and pocket a lottery pick, only that's not an option because that pick goes to Houston. The Nets can't physically blow it up and start over, that team building strategy is not on the table, and won't be on the table for the next six years. They're stuck, they're boxed in, and that's a terrible place for anyone to be.
If you're a Nets fan, you might win games and have good seasons over the next 6 years, but without your picks, what pathway to a championship do you really have? None, that sucks for Net's fans.
😂😂😂 yeah they are screwed
@@dommyyandfriendss Yeah, it's why people hate the Gobert trade so much. When you trade that many picks, the team you now have is your team for the foreseeable future, you have dealt away all your maneuverability. If Dlo-Ant-McDaniels-KAT-Gobert can't get it done, you've lost the ability to blow it up and rebuild and you've also lost the ability to maneuver out of that situation. You are not what you will be, and you're stuck until 2029.
The nets didn’t want either ant or kat, they wanted both guys and 4 picks
Ridiculous
The nets knew they weren’t getting that. Personally I think the nets don’t really want to trade kd
I mean tbh if the team went and made a trade that big for Rudy it’s a chance they won’t even trade Kat, because it helps fix some the issues they had with him. I really don’t see them trading ant unless they get basically an even trade. KD is great but 2 years of him compared to potentially 5-10 of ant.
@@tommartyn524 exactly . I think they are going to force him and kyrie to run it back - or trade kyrie . But KD is as good as stuck this season
The Nets wanted either of them, but they initially asked for both of them thinking the Wolves would try to meet them half way, like: "I can't give you both guys, how about either one of them?" But the Wolves dismissed the talks immediately right after the Nets' offer.
KD would be going for what they’re asking if KD wasn’t injured or older!! He’s a monster and forever a legend and possibly still worth a few pieces but you can’t be serious to think he’ll be going for all of what they’re asking!!
Too much exclamation marks
That's right now, because nearly every NBA roster does NOT have the right pieces available for a trade. Andy does a decent job with this video, but a key part he left out is the CBA free agency rules.
Rule #1: when you sign a player in free agency, you can NOT turn around and trade that same player for a minimum of 30 days and in many cases, WAY longer than that.
For example, Bradley Beal made history this summer by becoming the first player in YEARS to have a "no trade clause" written into his contract. This means he will NEVER be able to be traded for the ENTIRE FIVE YEARS of his contract (unless he gives the Wizards permission).
2. All NBA teams are specifically NOT allowed to have two (2) designated rookie max players who were acquired by trade on their roster. The Brooklyn Nets already have one (1) with Ben Simmons, which automatically prohibits about 15 designated rookie max players from being traded for Kevin Durant UNLESS the Nets trade or waive Simmons FIRST.
Brooklyn wants a superstar, or maybe even two (2) for KD, which is a very limited pool to choose from, considering WHO is even ALLOWED to be traded for him right now. The question the Nets need to ask is: how badly do we want to keep Simmons?
If the answer is: "pretty bad," then yes, it is MUCH harder to find a trade for KD then most casual fans even realize. 💁🏻♂️🏀🤷
Who got influenced by kyrie and fluctuated his career. Can only carry a franchise so much
yeah 2014 kd would've been traded for the package they asking
@@deezybe1316 don't even think that package is even enough for 2014 KD
It kind of feels like the Rudy Gobert Trade makes it nearly impossible to find a Trade-szenario with enough assets for the nets to say "yes" to a Durant trade.
At this point, it would be interesting to see which team is gutsy enough to trade for him. Yes you do get a generational talent but will you have a championship team in the small window of contention based on his age? And will that all be worth it for the gutted future you will have
He's only got a few good years left so trading your whole teams depth for him makes no sense. He's not good enough to carry scrubs to a finals
It is impossible to find a 2 team trade for the Nets, but maybe a 3,4, or even 5 team trade could find a way but it will be way too complicated to use a trade machine
@@brandonw6139 I still will bet that he can at least bring a team to the finals if you give him 3 and D guys plus some rim protection. What ended up being the downfall of last year's Nets was no size outside of Claxton (and Durant too, but not much of a paint protector) and no defense in general. It should be troublsome knowing Irving, Curry, Dragic, Brown, and Durant was actually a lineup they used
Danny Ainge playing 5d chess again.
in the Wolves case, they did what they HAD to do. They were NEVER going to get free agents to come play basketball in Minnesota. Good on them being aggressive with the Gobert trade
Agreed. Its a spicy trade but I feel the minority owners, the new FO heads and the coach are on the same page on how they see this roster in the next 5 years. At the very least its the opposite of how the Wolves treated their star then in Kevin Garnett when he was carrying the team solely to the WCF and all he has for help were old Sprewell, old Terrell Brandon, old Sam Cassell, old Joe Smith and wacky Wally Sczerbiak. As Anthony Edwards continues to improve he will have KAT and Gobert guaranteed to be with him in the forseeable future.
But Rudy doesn't move the needle for them much if at all. I'll be absolutely gobsmacked if they somehow managed to move the needle enough to be legit contenders for a WCF victory.
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KD is not worth a team’s entire future. You’re asking a 34 year old Kevin Durant who’s a bit of an injury prone player. I find it baffling that the Nets are asking for so much considering the nets just got swept with KD as the main guy. He’s not worth the asking price. Nets are being unrealistic.
Also, I find it soft that KD got everything he wanted and enabled Kyrie to the way he is and wants out because Kyrie isn’t getting paid. KD hand picked the staff and players he wanted to play with and it wasn’t enough. He’s a spoiled baby.
Yet he's your favorite player 🤡🤡🤡
Brooklyn being unreasonable on purpose. They just looking for an organization dumb enough to rip off. Especially a 34 y/o KD.
That's why you don't let players dictate how you run your team.
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Brogdon is NOT “backing up smart”, he will be the 1 and smart 2, or if anything he will be a quick sub in (like a clarkson type roll) if horford is at the 4 and bob at the 5.
The Boston Celtics will have multiple lineups. Brogdon will start in some. In others, he will come off the bench.
It's not in either/or situation. There will be occasions where he backs up Smart. 💁🏻♂️🏀
TuNnL didn’t I kind of say that above? Lol
Same thoughts brogdon will play beside smart.
That would be a terrible line up that would ruin their spacing...unless Smart becomes a much better 3 point shooter.
He has the Kevon Looney role, start when necessary but will always give you quality minutes
That Malcolm Brogdon trade is really a good one , the Celtics really did a good one , because he’s a point guard who rarely turn overs the ball and he’s an all around solid player and he’s a playoff veteran who’s been in deep playoff runs
Deep?
@@muhammadsyed8253 he made the ECF with the Bucks.
Solid vet with great skills. The Celts also have the depth to keep his minutes down so he stays healthy throughout the season.
@@jayward8237 it's actually amazing that a great NBA team like the Celtics was still able to pick up Malcolm Brogdon without giving up any players in their rotation.
They basically gave the Pacers their trash. I think Daniel Theis was the only player in that group who played more than garbage time. 💁🏻♂️🏀
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Brogdon is more than just a one year rental. He signed a 2 year extension before last season so he’s under control through 2025
I remember like 4-5 years ago they were talking about the Celtics trading for him and now here it comes to fruition in 2022 haha
Andy knows absolutely nothing about the Celtics.
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Another video another comment section to discuss important topics!! Love it!!
I feel like people are forgetting that KD is literally 34 years old and the whole world saw that his scoring can’t win playoff games (shown in the 2021 playoffs and especially 2022 playoffs) he’s a great player but he needs stars around him and since nets are asking for a superstar/star and tons of picks it just won’t work out. Also KD jumps ship to much.
Him being 34 has nothing to do with anything. He's 34 but still cookin everyone we as fans need to get over this once you hit 30 all of a sudden you wash up quickly. We've seen his scoring has won many playoff games, Kevin Durant needs a second star who isn't kyrie and a consistent bench. I wouldn't wanna play with kyrie either so i see why he's requesting a trade.
@@SolaceMcfly dude he had a great team in the playoffs on paper but got COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN many times by Tatum. Dude literally shot 25% when guarded by Tatum which is so sad lmao. But yes kd cant do shit besides score unlike lebron who can bring a lot to the game also kd is Injury prone and jumps ship to much
Durant Narrative in 2021: “If only he had smaller feet, they would be in the finals!”
Durant Narrative in 2022: “He can’t win without a superteam”
Every star player will have a series like that. Kyrie wasn't doing shit so all the attention is on KD, none of this was being said when he almost beat the bucks singlehandedly
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Malcolm Brogdon trade was Cs' masterpiece. They gave away Daniel Theis & garbage time players & 1 pick for a legit NBA backcourt player (when healthy).
Also this is the second time Theis is traded out of BOS in last years.
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KD wanting to join the team with the best record in the league....what a surprise😆😆😆😆
I love your videos!
Great analysis. Everyone pounced on the Gobert deal, yawned over Brogdan and lost their minds over KD’s trade demand. I hate quick, hot takes that attempt to pass for analyses. Given a week or so to think about these things, you thought about these things. Bravo to you.
Gobert was traded for role players and picks, The nets wants the same amount of picks, but they want two all-star level players, of course it’s too much
Funny thing is they can’t even trade for Towns since he’s on a rookie extension
Nets are greedy
I think the Nets are asking too much deliberately. Either they get overpaid or they keep Durant.
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Every Saturday I look forward to these videos after work
I feel like NBA fans overvalue picks. They saw what happened to the nets and see that as the rule and not an exception. Trading for a star will drastically help you win and giving up 3-5 picks is worth it, most will be late first but If you have good development/ an eye for talent, losing the late 1st round picks doesn't matter. There could be 1 or 2 that land in the lottery or something but that's the risk. Ultimately it all depends on how good the organization is at their job. If they draft well, they will win the trade; if they can't capitalize, it doesn't matter and they lost their star for nothing.
The Timberwolves did better in the playoffs than the Nets last year and would not be better trading those two players away. These trade requests are ridiculous lmao.
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Great content with no screaming or mugging for the camera. That’s becoming rare. Thank you.
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I thought this was the worst trade of all time until you broke it down in this video , now I’m starting to believe the Wolves could be really good. They were already a fringe playoff team with a rookie ANT, just imagine if he takes the next step
Sophomore tho
But adding those draft picks added into the mix, which could represent some future assets they could use down the line?
I ain't buying what's being sold, MaGee. The Timberwolves better, BETTER be good in this upcoming season with Gobert. Otherwise, they'll be known forevermore as The Timberchokes.
Bad trade for who?
@@chaosgreyblood they won 46 games without Gobert, if they stay healthy they WILL win around 55
KAT is better on the 4 when he doesn't have to worry about rim defense. He has a better opportunity to make his shots with Gobert covering the rim now. Memphis killed us on rebounds in the ppayoffs and feasted in the paint for those six games. We outplayed the Grizzlies and caused our own downfall.
The background music is very familiar! It’s an interesting game ♨️😉♨️
Question: What if Gobert had a midrange? Let me know what you think but I believe it would raise him into "you know who should get some MVP votes?"-territory
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Another great and FAIR video. I know it's early, but would you make a video previewing teams who are going to TANK for Victor Wembanyama 🤔
I didn't realized gobert trade was THAT big until watching your video haha
Changed my mind, now that trade for minnesota went from horrible to something we don't have a word to describe it yet
Brogdon is signed for the next three seasons though. 45 millions 2 year extension signed with Pacers.
Most contenders won't give up their young stars for a 34 year old KD
Then they won't get him
1st round picks are being thrown around like its nothing. People dont realize that these are future potential All Stars. They just dont have names.. yet.
Modern NBA teams are so short sighted, its shocking.
It's wild tim Conley shook it up soo much cause he was the total opposite in Denver. Devloped guys never really used tons of assets like he did in this trade 🤣😅
I disagree. 1st are overrated. There are only a few potential allstars in each draft and drafted them is about luck as much as scouting. A lot of these 10-30 range firsts are just to acquire roleplayers which can be acquired through free agency. Look at the thunder with all the guys they selected over the past 2 years, they are starting lu dort an undrafted guy. Trading 5 picks is a bit much in my opinion but to say all are potential allstars are short sighted. A team be lucky to get one allstar out of 5 picks
LeGone: my type of guy
1st round picks are overrated nowadays
It's a risk though? As you said, they don't have names. If you're a team that is trying to take the next big step (like the video said, the Timberwolves) are you gonna wait for a great draft pick or you trade for a player that is already in the league?
Look at wiggins and weissman. The warriors could just wait for weissman to get better or they could just play wiggins now. And we know how big his impact was during the playoffs and finals
I'm more curious about AE's opinion on his new "rim protector" teammate 😂
Yeah, free agency and off-season trades have been an absolute mess this year.
Durant is borderline untradeable, without one of the two teams getting completely shafted.
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7:33 Andy - “hehehehehe”
“No one pays attention to the pacers” that sir hurt my feelings….
The only Thing I’ll say is that with the players, Beasley was a net negative last year for the wolves and we were paying him almost 20M. Pat Bev as good as he was, was not worth 13M. Balmaro has potential but has shown none of it so far. Vando sucks to lose but gobert has a higher defensive impact obviously and I’m not sure if we would have the money to pay him with Kat and Ant on maxes (and definitely not with gobert on the team) and Kessler is a non lottery pick. Anything can happen. I think overall the wolves will be good. Hopefully a 3-5 seed in the west with potential to make a deep playoff run and as I see it. Worst case all those guys Ant Kat Gobert are under contract for at least 5years and if it really doesn’t work the wolves can trade them all away year 4 and get a bunch of picks to restart. I don’t really see any way the trade can “blow” up in the wolves faces which I really appreciate
Gobert automatically makes you a t3 defence if you get a defensive SF And kat ant and dlo improve defensively your instantly winning a ring
@@Aburner960 that’s what JMAC is for! Last year I believe he was top 10-20 for defensive rating but don’t quote me on it. I know his rookie year he had one of the most efficient defensive seasons for a rookie ever. I’m really excited to see what he can do this year!
@@myzgaming2738 defensive rating isnt the end all be all but its still relatively good compared to other stats his film looks good but everyone has to take a leap defensively unless you want gobert to be in a utah situation
Honestly wolves are my favorites to win the west gobert is one of the most underappreciated players in the nba the best rim protector (the most important part of defence by far) a elite perimiter defender and he plays at a similar level in the playoffs his gravity is also excellent if this team meshes and they step up defensively which shouldnt be so hard since gobert does the heavy lifting its wraps minnesota will prolly beat everyone except for boston (but bostons just different)
This trade will never get them to the WCF, let alone the Finals. They also now have zero young prospects and no draft picks to make trades in order to make them real contenders. They are another move away, and then they have to assemble a bench and their GM hasn't done a good job with that.
@@wishtheworldwasdifferent8235 they already have a decent bench they have a top 5 offense and a top 3 defence minimum with that core whos beating them in the west?
Warriors=not that good and declining i also dont believe in their prospects
Clippers=itll go to 7
Suns=are losing ayton
Mavs=arent good enough
Nuggets=L M A O
Grizzlies=timberwolves nearly beat them without gobert
A bench is easy to assemble and the timberwolves bench isnt even bad they really just need defenisve jumps from kat and ant and they are firm title contenders
Nice.
The nets won't get the package they want. The two trades should look different. Utah wanted the picks, they didn't want actual players in return. They got a bunch of expiring contracts to make the salaries work but no players of real significance. The nets want players of significance. Picks shouldnt be as important to the nets. As greedy as the nets want to be they have to understand they aren't gonna get the full value for Durant. He's 34 and only getting older, only getting more liable to injury. His loyalty is highly questionable. Teams aren't comfortable selling their future for that.
They don't want to trade
4:24 ive never heard andy cuss before lmao
Dude Brooklyn should just do Ant + a draft pick or 2
Sure it isn’t the best value but Ant is a long term stud who can sell tickets and put up points.
Ant and Kyrie would be a squad
Na they should do what they want, he is under contract.
I’m feeling incredible 🤣🤣
I really like the brogdon pick up for the Celtics. A guy who fits the Celtics culture really well.
If the Boston Celtics were looking for a playoffs experiment back up playmaker point guard. Asides getting Malcolm Brogdon they should’ve choose Rajon Rondo for that role.
He's washed now
Rajon Rondo is too old to play a significant role on a contender. His last couple of seasons proved that. He also was involved in some type of domestic violence incident involving his son this summer.
Rondo would be better off coaching at this point, but if he wants to keep playing, he needs to be the third guy. The Cleveland Cavaliers suffered a huge drop-off when they switched from Ricky Rubio to Rondo as their backup last year.
Rajon was good for a few a games, but even that took a toll on him and he was on the injured list for awhile. That's why the Cavs brought back Rubio for the next three years, instead. 💁🏻♂️🏀
1:20 I laughed loudly
Brooklyn should trade for young talents and draft picks to Orlando, Houston or Detroit and start rebuilding their team. You can’t ask for an all star on the other team to trade Kyrie, Durant or even Simmons. Everybody knows that it’s stressful to have these players on the team. Brooklyn just messed up having these players with Ego problems including Harden. They sacrifice their future and messed it up. It’s time to try to trade for young and still humble talents like bachero, Jalen Suggs and future picks. Cade Cunningham, Ivey, Duren and future picks. Jalen Green, Jalen Smith and future picks. It’s time to rebuild their team, it’s nonsense if you force to trade for an all star.
But why would those rebuilding teams want such a win now player
Minnesota playing some 5d chess. Overpaying for Gobert makes any team
trying to trade for Durant impossible with the Brooklyn asking for more
then Gobert. No team can offer up enough that won't gut the roster and
make that team just ok anyway. Even when being traded Gobert is still
playing defense.
wow you're right
gobert still play good defense during off season
I count 5 players from what u listed on Wolves trade plus the picks but u said 4 players so which player wasn't traded
KD will stay in Brooklyn i guess 😅 cause it's so complicated to trade him. Also, Nets can't afford to tank due to they already traded their future picks.
Hella sad for Brooklyn. Just 9 years ago, they made that "insignificant" trade to the Celtics then would see all that bite them back in 2015-2018. Even so, they managed to get D'lo and Dinwiddie while using late picks on Allen and Levert. Combined with everyone else on that 2018-19 team, they managed to rebuild with no lottery picks...
And all that sacrificed for 3 seasons of KD and Kyrie (plus Harden) and they weren't healthy for a lot of it even together
The Jazz practically screwed the Nets pursuit of trading KD. They acted very early in the trade window and they got a lot of assets for Gobert that the Nets would look silly if they lower their reported asking price from the Wolves.
dang
Brogdon is actually a shooting guard but also can play PG. He's more like a combo guard. There's no problem for him to be at the starting lineup alongside Smart. Brown and Tatum can take the forward role.
Has me thinking DLo might be on the trade block for some more assets
GOD Bless
9:42 to 9:46 Facts 💯
The Netz don’t have leverage with KD, he might me traded before training camp starts, my guess would be with Suns, package Ayton in a sign or trade deal with somr draft picks
If you are a rebuilding team just outside the playoffs or a 7/8 seed then yeah a durant trade makes sense. But I also get it they are asking for a lot because teams don’t want to end up like the Spurs where they trade for a player get a mid player back and 2picks. They need these picks to use as insurance.
The thing that makes a potential KD trade even more complicated is Ben Simmons. According to the CBA a team cannot have more than 2 players with the designated rookie max extension via trades, meaning that if Sean Marks wants someone like Devin Booker, Bam Adebayo or Andrew Wiggins he has to move Simmons to a third team or package him with KD, but that will inflate the asking price even further as Simmons' trade value is the Mariana Trench.
But it's not like that the Nets were doing earth shattering moves. They've traded a 2023 1st round pick for Royce O'Neale?! Granted, that pick will be either theirs or the one from Philadelphia, but there were/are similar players to O'Neale on the open market that could the Nets have signed without giving up assets. And their other acquisition was TJ Warren, who missed an entire season due to injury and who knows what his form is. And these two are IMO not good enough for the Nets to move them above the Bucks, Celtics, Heat and even Sixers.
Speaking of Gobert, what will this mean for Donovan Mitchell? It appears that the Jazz have finally realize that they have to rebuild, but Mitchell is still on the roster. While he hasn't demanded a trade yet, pretty sure he'd want to be dealt as I'm not sure he wants to be in the ether during his prime. And it's not like he doesn't have suitors lined up for him - the Knicks have boatload of young players and picks they'd love to trade, while Miami will include Tyler Herro in any trade package for Mitchell.
And lastly, while it was not included here, but IMO the market for DeAndre Ayton has gone. No team has offered him a contract yet, not even teams that were interested in him which were rebuilding teams as they've set their sights on tanking for Victor Wembanyama - a 7+ foot big man from France who is projected to be the No.1 pick in the 2023 draft. And having Ayton will undermine their effort. IMO Ayton will have to accept a lower offer from Phoenix otherwise he risks fading into obscurity.
Imagine the nets just say fuck it and bench kd till they get a trade they want and waste his years :/
Brad Stevens genius man because he not trade any player rotation for Malcolm Brogdon, I think Brogdon 2 year contract extension last season in pacers he through 2025 😂😅😂
Towns wants to shoot 3. Thats why they need a center who stays in the paint
Gobert- towns reminded me of Pistons Reliable Wallace's Front court
A defensive minded center Ben along with A stretch bigman Sheed
The only downside I have with wolves was their coaching staff, playoffs really did expose their coach lack of experience
It's no reason the wolves should've lost to the whatever team that it is.
Kat has no heart
Jaylen Brown next video Andy Hoops 🙏🙏🙏
They’re banking on 2 things - Ant turns into a legit superstar, and McDaniels turns into a stud. With a 3rd hope that DLo improves with a guy like Gobert on the court. Both from Goberts screens getting him open and from his elite pick and rolls
Brogdon, Smart, Brown, Tatum, Timelord closing line up to go small or swap Al in to go big
What makes the Durant trade trickier than the other guys I would think is his age. He's 33, so whatever team gets him is going to get 3-5 solid years out of him at most, so it would have to be a team that can win now. But those teams won't be able to compete if they meet the Nets' asking price. It's a huge risk for any team getting him. You get the best scorer in the league, but your team won't have a future as a result.
KD and Kyrie goes to the Jazz for 10 First round picks and Players to make the Money work
i think they move Tatum to the 4 full time so it’s gonna be Brogdon, Smart, Brown, Tatum, and Williams III
bro isn’t gonna be a roleplayer off the bench cmon now
That's the new market value, you have to give up a lot to get an established talent, and part of that is because there's only so much established talent in the NBA. Did the Wolves give up too much? I'm not that concerned about draft picks, but they gave away the Kessler guy who was supposed to be a really good defensive player, they gave up Vando who was great but has maybe some conditioning issues since he started to fade down the stretch of the season, and was consistently getting around 25 minutes despite being one of the top guys on the team in win shares. They also gave up Pat Bev, who was a leader of the team last year and also one of the top win share guys. I think we may have given up too much, but they obviously feel like they're adding more than enough back to the team through Gobert, plus maybe a couple of odd free agent deals, and then maybe you get some progressions from guys like Anthony Edwards and Jaden McDaniels.
It's too early to say whether they gave us too much, since that's going to dictated by the level of success that they enjoy from this trade. Brooklyn's trade for Harden is one where we have full hindsight now, and I'll be the first to admit that the Timberwolves look like they've made a similar trade, but they didn't give up anybody like Jarrett Allen.
Assuming Brogdon is healthy and actually able to play a lot - I wouldn’t be surprised if he cracked the starting rotation.
Moving Smart, Brown and Tatum up one slot and Horford out to the bench (6th man).
Is there a possibility of a KAT and Gobert pick and roll?
So sureal I thought I was dreaming when I read bout gobert trade. Lets just wait and see how he and kat would make wolves contender or not. 🤷♂️
Bro rlly saying the t wolves r trying to compete… IM WEAK💀
I didn't really like the Gobert trade for the Wolves, but I get why they did it. We'll see how it goes down next season.
the nets are trippin🤣 actin like KD is 27 and not in his 30s. nobody is gonna trade all that for KD
Nah they just dont want to trade KD. If nets will demand like that KD will stay
@@ND-OPS KD will never play for the nets again so it wont even make a difference. you really think he’ll continue to suit up when he asked for a trade?
They are trying to build around Ant
The perfect center to play with Towns would be a guy who's good on defense,protecting the rim,can switch etc. but on offense prefers to play facing the basket and is more off a shooter.
A bit of a unicorn lol - perhaps a motivated and energised Sac Kings Boogie lol. Centres good at defence, and good at shooting are very much a rarity. I mean at a stretch you could say perhaps Porzingis but defence again + injuries would be a weakness.
Really what the wolves need is a decent point guard - D Lo just isn’t really it and has a tendency to collapse on D and chuck on O.
But that’s my opinion.- what do you think? I love watching the wolves as they are fun but trying to figure out how to fix them is a massive question mark lol
@@rupertn3443 Cousins was not a good defender even in his prime. Porzingis is also not an answer. I'm a Slovenan so I watched every Mavs game and KP is not the answer.
Yeah,they have to move along from Russell. Right now that's the only thing I would change about that team. They have Gobert so that's it what it is. Try to make it work,and I think it can be worked out. Towns is a great shooter. He can create his own shot. I know he's not Dirk but Dirk always played with a defensive center. Dampier,Dipo,Bradley,Chandler etc. They can use Towns that way next to a defenvie center.
In all respect, MN has been talking to Utah and other teams about centers far before Durant asked out. The Nets asked for ant and Kat and picks. Last year was Towns best defensive season and it was because he didn’t drop but played at level. And Kat is best facing up for a shot or a drive, he is good inside but at his best outside. If Kat was 6’9 nobody would have an issue.
With the wolves track record it’s better if they trade the picks for smth guaranteed
No, the truth is Nets want both Towns and Edwards plus 4 first-round picks......
When the nets said ad bron and 4 picks 🤣
Warner Bros is gonna sue Andy one of these days
I could never be a GM lol I get too attached to players. I would have had trouble getting rid of Beasley and Vanderbilt.
The Gobert trade is the Herschel Walker trade all over again for Minnesota. Minnesota once again is building another team's dynasty.
He’s a good rebounder
there's a difference about playing for the love of the game,and playing,because he's good at "posterizing anybody" and deserved that million contract.
vanderbilt is a 22 yr old defensive stud who would easily last another 8-10 years on a nice contrast compared to maybe 3-4 years of gobert
before the nets said we want Anthony Edward's the wolves probably hung up
If I was the Wolves, I'd use Gobert next season, and then trade him on draft night for Wembanyama.
Imagine Houston drafting the next Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown with the Nets pick, Brooklyn really messed up huh.
Goberts gravity in the paint? What gravity?
Durant is older, and the teams that can give a trade package that the Nets would want, are teams Kevin would not play for anyway. The market price will go down as time goes on or he will stay with the Nets.
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The thing is I’m not even sure the wolves will be a lot better with gobert and minus Pat bev, Beasley and Vanderbilt. I think one of the major reasons for the wolves defence improving significantly this year was pat bev. Look no further than the playoffs where he almost locked up ja. Vanderbilt was also great on defence and Beasley gave them good scoring outside their big 3. Which is why the draft compensation (5 1st rounders) makes the trade almost ridiculous.
Brogdon actually has 3 years left on his contract after the 2022-23 season lol 2023-24 is the last year of the 4yr 85mil extension. But Indiana extended him another 2 years 45mil. So he will be with the celtics through the 2025-26 season.
A young all-star would mean less picks would have gone to Utah in the Gobert trade. Look what the Lakers gave up for AD. Kd is a better player than AD.KD is older but he has 4 years left on his contract. Utah got role players and late picks if theTimberwolves remain competitive with Gobert.
I just wish Patrick Beverly was still on the wolves
You know how the nba is
Thats a whole lotta picks and players to trade for a dude who gets played off the floor come playoff time
Obviously this goes for every trade but more so with the Rudy trade, those pics really won't matter until the 29 one , if kat, ant ,d'lo, and Rudy all play to their potentials and they keep rounding up the bench . It'll be an interesting season for sure
Andy I have some more video topics you should do in the near future
Kobe's first season without Shaq
D rose 2011 MVP yr
The 1998 lockout/cba. Most people don't realize that played a part in setting up the ground for some of the contracts today
Some "what if "situatuons that most people don't talk about
Hot Take: If I’m the nets I’m counting my losses trading KD and Kyrie for a shit ton of good to all star level guys (Guys in the same tier as Desmond Bane Tobias Harris and Jrue Holliday) and I’m building around Ben.
Who's here when KD backed out on his trade demand and agrees to "moving forward"?
I think Gobert will do well in Minnesota. At least KAT won't have to worry about lacking the help defensively because he has a new frontcourt sidekick but there might be some questions moving forward.
So you're telling me Ruby it's going to be unstoppable beast and the fourth quarter and the playoffs they're still not the best team in the West y'all just buying into the hype
Well, let’s look at the supporting cast…the perimeter defense of the Wolves is better than the Jazz at their peak. Mitchell is a one dimensional volume shooter…he wasn’t much help. Gobert will not have to be an island responsible for 100% of the defense in Minnesota.
The Wolves gave eight dimes for a dollar. Gobert on the Wolves is much more valuable than he was on the Jazz. Now he has two, if not three teammates who are better than Mitchel.
Kd needs to go to Portland with dame
Brogdon got a two year extension from the pacers last year. Boston has him until 2024-2025. Your comments in the video is incorrect