What Happened to the "Next Yao Ming"? The Yi Jianlian Story
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- čas přidán 22. 05. 2020
- Yi Jianlian was the 6th overall pick in the 2007 NBA draft. At one point, he was the most popular player in China, and was deemed as the next great Chinese player to dominate the NBA. However, that never happened. What happened to him? Hope you enjoy!
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Yi was 7'1, with a 38" vert, and a solid muscular 250lb frame with the footspeed to keep up with smaller forwards. He was a great prospect regardless.
What did he do in the nba with all of that ?
This video clearly explains that he was not a great prospect
@@ej7954 a couple of double digit point seasons in the NBA, better than a lot of players!
@@timboslice8559 He had one double-digit season in New Jersey, averaging 12 and 7 on subpar efficiency from the floor.
wrr
In my NBA Live 08 save, this dude dominated for the Bucks, what an alternate timeline that would be 😂
An alternative timeline, where NBA live way ahead of NBA 2k would be juat as likely I think 😁 NBA live 2003 was really good for its time though, I really fell in love with bball after playing that game with Lakers and Spurs squads
Ong he uses to average 20 and 10 on nba live 08
If Yi dominated for the Bucks, Giannis would probably end up somewhere else.
mann, i played as him on nba 2k9 !!! srsly his 3 pts was easy n great ! ( i was cheesing 3s 10 times straight playin him).
also he could block (obviously) 😆
Sean Williams on the NJ Nets looked like Wilt Chamberlain on mine lmfao
Shit Yi is literally Thon Maker I’m so many ways:
- Age conspiracies
- foreign
- drafted by the bucks
- stretch bigs
- had sky high expectations
- showed guard like skills
- in their prior league, they dominated in ways that they weren’t able to in the NBA
Or you can say Thon Maker is Yi Jianlian because Yi came in the NBA earlier than Thon
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You know what he meant.... 🙄
Yes he was born in 1984
Bob have good cards in 2k.
@@dropoff2986 I know they are have very similar problems but he should have said Thon is Yi because he is much much more older than Thon
“Chairman Yi” would’ve been a dope nickname with a great hilarious backstory.
Oof If i had that nickname i would retire asap
I wanted to see him flop after contact with the chair.
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Lol
LMAO
I think Yi would've been a good stretch 4 role player in today's game. His best years came when he was in New Jersey where they already had a solid post option in Brook Lopez so Yi was able to spot up and play outside where he shot a respectable 34/35% from behind the arc. I personally think he was drafted into the NBA at an odd time because PFs were sort of a lost position at the time. The 10 & 10 PF was a dying breed and the stretch 4 was coming in but wasn't widely accepted yet. Unless his name was Dirk Nowitzki no one was trying to acquire a PF that played outside at the time.
That's what people who didn't watch him would assume. But Yi was already playing exactly as a spot up shooter in Bucks, and he felt miserable with that role. Yi kinda thrived in the Nets because he had his trainer in the coaching staff and they allowed him higher usage%.
Yi was similar to Jimmer Fredette, in that both of them need to run the offense to thrive, they're just not good enough in NBA level but would be superstars against weaker oppositions.
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This man is a god in 2k my team
Fax
Sam the Gamer no bs.
Fr the best budget stretch big lol
Ang he was a 3pt. Beast in NBA Live 2008 on PC
Karagdagang Impormasyon ew nba live its 2k
Who remembers this man from 2k always getting offensive rebounds😂
He still does
Master Of Cap stolen comment
Its like all chinese players get offensive boards
I always make him as a SF and he's better in that position than playing as Center 😁
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As brief member of the Mavericks, he was almost automatic from a step inside the 3pt line. Me and my friends affectionately dubbed it the “Yi shot” and my fave; the “Yi pointer”.
He was actually a decent player. I remember when he played for the nets.
bojo perez All things considered, the fact he was an ok bench player is kinda good. His ceiling was never going to be high. Being an NBA level talent actually surprised me.
yes, he averaged 12PPG; 7.2RPG; and 1BPG with Nets
The nets system made him a spot up big shooter, which he did alright with.
Anytime he needs to do something involve dribbling and moves, he could not do it at the NBA level.
In this sense, he is pretty much a less athletic version of serge Ibaka minus defense.
His counting stats were okay due to usage, but he was inefficient and his defense was trash. He was a net negative on the court.
A college friend of mine from China didn't even watch basketball but she said that the hype for him was so huge that she couldn't avoid it.
he gets injured every time he looks like he's gonna breakout making teams scared to invest in him and rumors are he wasnt as team friendly as yao as in personality wise and willingness to learn english
Didn’t want to play defense. Simple as that. Decent jump-shooter and superb athlete. But didn’t have the eye of the tiger like his countryman.
Jay MacDonnell it’s more about his habits or ability than willingness. He plays 4 throughout his career and there always is another big man doing dirty work for him in CBA and national teams. So he can shoot those mid ranges and be the first choice on offensive sides. But not in NBA. That made him lack the mindset of playing defense. Plus his defensive skills were not enough to handle NBA level games. He can make some good defensive moves, but indeed, he’s not a good defensive player.
Jay MacDonnell Yi’s defense = trash, even worse than Harden when facing a typical Nba SF/PF. No upper strength built up in his career, even in Cba
This is true. He is trash.
His EQ is not as high as Yao Ming's, who absorbed American culture, while Yi Jianlian is more introverted and can't talk.
I was kinda excited when the Nets trades for him....quickly I was like "they traded Richard Jefferson for THIS guy!", then when he finally improved in every stat the next year they traded him for Quinton Ross....and I was like "who the hell is Quinton Ross?!?" Lol, things were tough all over
He was pretty decent, but too injury prone. He also kinda missed the modern NBA style by 6-7 years, he was a bit streaky but some teams would definitely want a stretch big like him. He singles handedly shouldered Chinese basketball in Asia for a long time after yao retired
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Yao was just different. More skilled and stronger. And could hold his own against shaq.
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@@mlkchannel5890 he's not a top 4 rocket in my opinion
MLK Channel Top 20 center in my opinion
Hakeem,Harden,TMac,Drexler,Malone and Finally Yao
@@andreroberson7274 nah bro t mac and clyde under yao, Yao brought so much publicity from China to Houston and meant alot to their franchise being a successful number 1 pick from china and working out in the nba. I believe he was a 7 to 8 time all star with Houston and multiple all NBA teams, that's amazing and better than what t mac and what clyde did in a rocket uniform even tho clyde got the jewelry, but I'm going yao over both tmac and clyde
"He's hip hop, he's 50 cent, he wants to dunk on you "- literal quote from fran fraschilla when yi got drafted wtf
Lol
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 you gotta be kidding me
@@stevenqbosell I wish I was💀
Nah that's exactly what was said.I just seen it and heard it.I'm kinda cringing Now after that I wish Max Kellermen said it he at least can "RAP"
Cedric Holmes where is this clip
i remember he was real good on the nets it looked like he had no drive tho
I was a fan... bought his jersey at a game
He was really good. It's just that his body couldn't hold it in the NBA.
Jermey Lin better
Good?
Just bad luck . He was indeed very skilled , you can see what he has done with the Chinese national team.
I Wouldn't Go That Far As Too Say He Was Good..He Was Mediocre At Best 😫😫
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Look at Andy man such an inspiration for my channel! But seriously thank you I’ve been uploading basketball commentary twice a week for my basketball heads out there
He’s not a bust, he was just overhyped
Doesn't that make him a bust by definition, didn't reach expectations, albeit the expectations were high Lol
Agree, he was putting somewhat a decent stats, though he was just overhyped because asian baller is a big thing in the league
this dude is the literal definition of overhyped. Now a days people misuse it because they're tired of hearing about a certain player.
@@DannyStyleZ facts 😂😂😂😂
@@DannyStyleZ I gotta disagree. The statement is he was overhyped. To me, the definition of bust refers to someone who doesn't live up to "realistic potential" This wasn't realistic potential. Scouts should have made more reasonable comparisons.
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Poor guy, bad timing. He would have fit right in in this era
How he would fit in this era ?
@@elfasrustusis9671 shooting big man is what people use now, stretch 4 or even a stretch 5. people dont play 7 ft slow big men anymore
@@EaglesTime yes. Thats what i was telling. He said yi jianlian would fit now .
@@elfasrustusis9671 and you said how?, so i was just explaining it to you, but i guess you didnt add a comma so i misunderstood
@@EaglesTime yep.Either way this guy is troll
Nets fan checking in:
I remember he was pretty alright with us and put up decent numbers. Was steadily improving until he broke his finger. I enjoyed having him on the team, could've been a good role player...think you could've given more credit in the video.
Man i remember my dad and i always rooted any player on the nets and Yi was our favorite
@Meenhaz Foysol
Are you still a fan after the team moved from New Jersey or are you just a bandwagon fan after Durant showed up and looked up Yi's numbers on Basketball Reference after Andy told you about him?
Yeah his rookie numbers weren’t that bad because rookies are typically pretty bad and he never played against NBA talent. Delivering average rookie numbers was a best case scenario for him. He’d also be more of a player in the modern league as a stretch 5 where there’s no expectation of banging in the paint.
@@loveofmangos6112
haha nah man born and raised Paterson, NJ. Nets fan since Jason Kidd days in 5th grade.
Im a bandwagon AndyHoops fan tho lol he makes fire content, im just saying.
It feels weird hearing "bandwagon Nets fan" cause we sucked for so long
@@meenhaz93 dont pay that sourpuss attention lol hes a bandwagoner himself
Interesting thing about Yi’s contract with the Lakers, it was an even more severe version of Dwight Howard’s current contract. I don’t remember specifics, but only about 1 million of that 8 million was guaranteed and he would get the rest based off of games played I believe. He also had asked to be waived, presumably because he realized that he wasn’t going to be getting alot of playing time for the Lakers, thus not collecting too much of that contract, and because he knew he could still dominate back home and be loved by millions there
He was a pretty decent bench at nets. I recon it’s his personality.
As always, a very informative video! Thanks.
What I remember the most about him is from 2k and he was actually pretty good in the game but I’ll never forget his name it’s kinda unforgettable
Great video Andy !!! Keep it up my guy , man I remember when Yi Jianlian was actually a player , but he couldn’t be the next Yao to be fair
Wasn't even in the same stratosphere as Yao
Damn. Yao ming was actually so great; thanks for bringing him up.
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As a fan from China, I gotta day ur pronunciation of Yi Jianlian is the most accurate I have ever heard from anyone not Chinese, keep up the good work
What's up with the bucks picking players with dubious ages
Thon Maker
Ilyasova too
Holy fuck I didn’t notice
Yeah, I don’t know why either
Wasn't Shabazz Muhammed drafted by them too and their being something with his age?
I don't know man, maybe he wasnt ready as a 22 y/o rookie, but without the consistent play time it's really hard to develope. Without the injuries, he could have been a pretty solid role player as 26-29 y/o, but to reach the potential of Yao, it was pretty hard to do it.
You def got this vid Idea from all the smoke T Mac interview. And I don’t mind, these your vids are always great.
Guys like him would have more value in today’s nba where Biggs r asked to shoot
Isiah Miller boy u r right
Just look at how Raptors encourage Marc Gasol to shoot 3s. He's getting slower and slower but he's still got the mass
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did any team drafted the chair?
I heard the Magic sold several first round picks for it
His defense is a great upside
This dude makes it like every 2k on my team
i was waiting for this video i love yi jianlian
Great video coverage phillip they saw a soft target brother phillip you stated before stay on your square keep some mace or something on you gald the people in the complex came to his aide that was blessing!
Time Magazine: Yi is the next Yao.
(Yi Fails in NBA)
(Dominates in CBA)
Yi to Time Magazine: YEEETT
Hayup k dami ko tawa bente
I didn't know there was that much difference between 19 and 22
19, raw, but already talented prospect is an attractive asset.
22, rookie, although showing some level of competence, isn't as attractive.
@Sara Richardson He was drafted in 2007... if he was born in 1997 that would've made him the freakiest 10-year-old ever.
Love your channel andy
Keep going
He's still giving everything he got for our national team.
Great dude.
They are two very different players playing different positions. Yao is 7’5”, a traditional Center. Yi is a forward, he got SF skills but lack the speed, he’s tall enough for PF and faster than other PF but not strong enough. He’s like Juan Howard, stuck between the two positions. However, he has a decent shot.
great vid Andy, keep it up!
Love your channel
Dude was unstoppable on 2k back in the day 💯
This man was a god in 2k11
I was originally gonna comment that. 😄 him and Bargnani in 2K11!
Honestly tho dude always gave solid double digit production off the bench and when you played with him he was unstoppable
He is in 2k20
Yi was actually very good the first season he was traded to Nets, until he broke his hands during the game playing against the Bucks. He was playing so good during the game against them and the Bucks fans were even booing him. Unfortunately as a introvert who do not communicate well with his teammates, Yi never found the sweet spot for him in the NBA. And his injury also did not help
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As a Laker fan, I remember Yi was the one who told Lakers to waive him because he wanted to go back to China because 1. He thought he was gonna have a lot of playing time with the Lakers but during pre season games, he was like the third string center and 2. he just wanted to go home.
I was just watching all the smoke’s podcast and tmac brought him up, and I swear I was thinking to myself what happened to this guy lo.
Thon Maker: Imma be the first to confuse everybody about my age
Yi: Hold my beer
For whatever reason they both drafted by Bucks which is amazing
Thon Maker is 32 years old
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JNY 69420 he also played/plays for the Bucks
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Yi got talent and he always trained hard. His problem is culture shock and minor injuries which always stopped his progress
If healthy, he would be a good bench player in NBA with his shooting.
That was a big gamble for bucks back then, I guess you can say Yeet Jianlian...
........I'll see myself out
Then came the freak
Good thing they didn’t stop taking chances on Young overseas prospects
umm the joke is good
I guess we can say that
I love this player man he was never really bad in the nba they expected him to be better than he was though
As a Chinese I am so glad that Andy made a video about Yi. Parts of the reason of his falling is due to the overhype by Chinese media, which created unrealistic expectation among the fans. Although I would love see another Chinese player playing in NBA, I don’t see it happen in the next 10 or 20 years, majorly because we simply don’t have the physical tools to survive in NBA. Yao survived but still suffered a tons of injuries
3rd best league in the world ? Unless you consider Euroligue like a league, you're absolutely wrong. Euroligue is like the champions league for basketball. It's the competition that allows the best european teams to play against each other. Come on... French league, greek one, spanish one, turkish one and some other more are way better than the chinese league...
I think its because of former nba players they always go to the cba
lol I'm pretty sure that's the intent of his statement. He considered Euroleague as 1 league.
易建联(Yi Jianlian) failed in NBA because of his introvert personality however he is definitely not a bust.
Walton is a trash in coaching
Who do you think will be the next big Chinese player in the NBA?
gb benner Not sure. Just like I am not sure when will NBA reopen 😂
@@gbbenner9382 Good question. There are a few young Chinese players in higher school and NCAA. I will assume next one will from them. But none of them is likely to be high-rank pick like Yao and Yi IMO.
He also failed cuz of lacking skills. If his athleticism wasnt as special in the NBA he shouldve worked on his shooting much more. Those stats sucked.
He failed because of injuries nuff said. What can Walton do if he gets injured every damn time.
Bruh I got this guy whenever I could in NBA 2K11. He and Blatche were always welcome on my roster, lol
Yi is really the second best thing that China every had after Yao. No one else has played at the same height as these two. It is now 2020 and Yi is still playing for his national team and it has been two decades. They cannot find anyone worthy to take Yi s place.
He just couldn’t see any flaws in his game
Wrong organization
I think a young Yi could be pretty nice in today’s NBA
He didn't have a successful NBA career as Yao did, but after returning to CBA he dedicated years and years of solid performance to his hometown GuangDong club and eventually evolved into a totem of team China, single handedly carried it within an overall declining decade after the big centre era (Yao, WangZhiZhi and Bateer). From the young face next to Yao in the paint he became a brother figure to all younger Chinese pro basketball player, and respected by all fans, including CBA rivalries - I'm myself a Beijing fan.
Andy we want video on 2009 nba draft😊
You should do what happened to Jan Vesely
He was too intimidated for the nba. Just sat on the perimeter and settled for jumpshots
Would be perfect in today's NBA, if only he was born a couple of years later
I remember back then the biggest criticism of Yi is he shoots too much, there was a time in the Nets where he gained like 10 or 15 pounds of muscle after injury to come back to play more in the paint. It started to work out then he got injured. I think he would do pretty well at least as a role player in today's game, most teams are empty in the middle and a mobile big man that can shoot the three would be very valuable today. Even Yao could jack up 3 threes in a game if he is still playing today.
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I was first I just didn't have the cameras on
Wasn’t funny over used joke
Noskcaj - such a casual man
Noskcaj - not my type of sentence man not inspirational
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maxedamia just wait until June man
lmaooo did u upload this bcuz of his recently realesed 2k card?
Bro he’s goated in 2k
Ryan Gau I start him at SF he’s fye asf.
JJ 0 I was thinking the same thing.
Who cares about staying in the NBA? He is making money and getting way more respect in the CBA now, probably a lot less stressful too. Life is treating him well.
I think he could've been a 14-15ppg 8rb type 6th men if he played into his late 20s early 30s and further refined his game in the NBA. He had the right physical tools being ~255lbs at 7'0'' and having a 7'4 wingspan. He had good leaping ability and great mobility, although his lateral movement was not great. If you watch his play in international play(even today) his mid-long range shooting improved vastly and his conditioning got better every year. He dunked on more people at age 30 then he did in his early 20s because of increased core strength.
I remember him thought he was gonna be a star
“Chairs don’t hit back”
Idk if he was mismanaged or Yi didn't listen the instructions, but the guy clearly had a ton of talent. He's still playing at a high level in 2020, and some NBA contemporaries who were formally all-stars like Noah have already washed out. I remember people saying that he out shined Noah in the draft workouts.
Strangely enough, the only time I ever watched him play with the Nets on TV, he dropped 29 points against the Thunder, and it wasn't even his season high in points either. Thought he looked pretty good out there.
Ngl if he was healthy and playing in today’s NBA he could’ve been a beast.
I dunno about beast. But certainly he could be a decent role player filling the stretch 4 position - good size, can run the floor, can stretch the defense. Not sure he’d be a starter though.
I feel like most people thought yi jianlian was the next yao ming bc he was a tall asain
@PARK no he's not you're annoying
Why didn't you talk about his success for the Chinese national team. You showed so many clips of him on the team and I don't think you mentioned it. Yi part two? Thank you good video
Yi is not only dominating in key area in CBA. He also shoot the ball as well.
How good was Marcus Camby a talented defender in his prime in the 2000s.
When Yi is 7' but next to Yao is only 6'8"
Can you make a video on the Vince Carter and Jason Kidd nets
Looks like he would’ve been great for the modern NBA. His jumpshot looks perfect
Who else knows that guy from 2K my career when you play in China 😂
He wasn't 7'6"
Height had nothing to do with why Yi floundered. The guy was a 7-footer with freaky athleticism and a solid jump-shot. But the mental strength was always lacking. And he phoned it in on defense. Compare this to Yao who in his prime averaged more points and was a defensive force.
Yao being 7'6'' 300+ lbs was actually a detriment to his game. Yi was 7'0'' with a 7'4'' wingspan, while Yao was 7'6'' with a 7'5'' wingspan. That added mobility, athleticism could have made him just as good. Problem with Yi was probably personality and mental fortitute
Yao actually once criticized Yi indirectly. Basically, Yao said that nobody would pity a professional athlete, which was a slap in the face to Yi's work ethic. Yi had issues he needed to fix (e.g. his defense, which was practically non-existent) but wouldn't work to fix them and instead focused all his efforts on his jump shots. It wasn't exactly a move that impressed coaches.
It's a shame things went the way they did. It seems like he had genuine potential in the league. Maybe if they'd gotten to condition him from a younger age and we're able to acclimate his game to a western style more, he could've avoided the injuries that kept setting him back.
We love him in China. He is much tougher and talented than Zhou Qi. He's humble and quite too, which do not fit the NBA style.
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I remember him developing into a absolute beast several years into nba 2k18 ‘s my gm mode. Lol
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