Phrozen Sonic Mini 8K S In-Depth Test And Review
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- čas přidán 5. 07. 2024
- Thank you phrozen the opportunity for me to fully disect this new printer Phrozen Sonic Mini 8K S
I always anxious with single rail printer, at first i thought i was right, but then sonic mini 8k s changed my mind.
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Chapters :
0:00 - Intro
0:12 - Comparison to Mini 8K
4:39 - Testing the cover
6:08 - Build size
6:21 - Sonic mini 8k s built
7:39 - Noise check
8:05 - Light uniformity
8:36 - Dial indicator
9:13 - New alarm sound
9:38 - Inside the printer
10:37 - Test prints
11: 49 - 0.2s issue
12:24 - 50um vs 30um
14:09 - Wobble or Stability torture test
15:41 - Antialiasing test
16:20 - Print comparison
19:34 - Dimensional accuracy
20:34 - Bumping test
21:17 - Print request
22:25 - Outro
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Great video Dennys, was great working with you
Hahahahahahahahah i mean i follow your instruction 🤣.
Thank you, you too.
I'm loving the Kayfabe.
@@USALibertarian haha, we just wanted to have a little fun.
My dude, you are so exceptionally thorough on your tests and examinations of the hardware. I'm a new viewer, and I'm insanely impressed!
Great video Dennys. Thorough as always.
Thanks! I've appreciated much of your content. It's helped me spend too much money on my printing addiction. It also helped me produce better work for my business.
Fantastic review ❤ professional and thorough
This is THE most thorough test and review I've ever watched and the most informative on how they eork. Well done, seriously, thank you🎉🎉🎉
Thank you
Thank you Dennys Wang for this amazing review. I recently purchased 2 of the sonic mini 8K machines 2 months ago because of the 22 micron pixel size on the screen, just prior to knowing the Mini 8KS was going to be released and I had no clue about the Anti-Alising issues prior to buying the 2 machines on it which I am bummed about. Hopefully they will be able to find a fix for them. But I did just purchased this Mini 8KS tonight and can't wait to get the machine and test it out. one of the reasons was from all of your videos I have seen about this machine. Like you I was very leary of the single rail system because I prefer a dual rail printer for it's stability. But I have seen so many amazing prints from this machine that I had to jump in and buy one. Not that I needed another machine but because I want that amazing print quality for my prints.
It was a very interesting validation. Thank you for explaining so many test prints in a very detailed way.
I use Mars 3pro, Saturn 8K and Photon Mono X, but I was interested in the new Sinic mini 8K S (I like small printers) .
Your verification was excellent and very informative. Thank you again.
Welcome
Great video, I am looking to begin the whole 3d print minatures hobbie and your video is one of the best i have seen. relevant information presented well. Thanks mate!
Thank you for this review! Massively helpful.
I love the back and forth, great videos both of you!
Sorry for asking
What back and forth?
@@wangdennys it's friendly banter! Like how friends make light hearted jokes to each other.
@@gfan1972 ah the thumbnails you meant
Hahahahahahahahaha
Thank you
Love your work!
Perfect Dennys (and I love this EPIC TROLL XD)
of all the announcements in the last 2 weeks, phrozen definitely stood out as the most ho hum especially with so much of the community calling them out to fix all the broken issues and bad customer service for both the mini 8k and especially the mighty 8k
I'm really considering getting one of these. What other announcements in the last 2 weeks have caught your attention that makes you say this one is ho hum? I'm waiting to see more info about the Anycubic M5 and M5s with a 12k screen, though wondering what else I may have missed that I should be considering?
Only good review of this machine. Everyone glosses over everything you took time to break down. Thank you!
Took the algorithm long enough to show me this channel smh... Thanks for the great review! Finally what detailed comparison I was looking for !
Thank you
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Thanks, very detail comparison.
Mini 8k s is really awesome!!
Thanks a lot Denny!!! I am all new to 3d printing and just purchase Sonic Mini 8KS, thanks to this video, I have a more in depth understanding of my new printer...
BTW, Denny, you have not list the source of the two busts that you used in this video, mind to share where do you get those? Would like to buy some nice busts for printing and painting practice...
Many Thanks again for the deep dive review.
Nice video. Thank you.😊
Welcome
Whaaaat? It bocks the uv light 100%! Wow
yep, BOOM!!!!!!
dude you got some strange comments on this video. Lots of bots and shills. The video was great!
Great review, love the amount of detail you went through.
Where did you find that version of the cones shown at 13:40? cannot find it online, nor in the description. Could you please share?
Thank you
From tableflip discord group
Thanks for your review. Now i will buy the mini 8k s to print jewelry casteable models, what do you think about that? is good machine?
we need a fix for the sonic mini 8k anti aliasing issue. When will they fix it ? I've been waiting for over a year now
Excellent video. What do you do to get your prints so nice and clean? The detail in them is amazing.
I always take about 1 week to calibrate new printer
Maybe that's why.
@@wangdennys would you mind sharing your settings for the 8KS?
That tail model is so cool lol
My Halot One Pro has a strong UVLCD screen like this. With ABS like resing, my exposure times are less than recommended to get proper exposure, 1 second is about right. Did you get word that you will be getting a Mega 8KS (The cheaper Mega 8k)?
Excellent video as usual, saw in your comments above : why if have budget you prefer might 8k then 8k s ?
Bigger build size
When you printed the model on 8k and 8ks. Are they printed in the same time? Or close period? Some how on the video, the colour of the models from 8ks seem lighter.
Could the limitation in layer time be an effect of the slicer you used, or do other printers work with sub 1 second print times using the same slicer?
Other tester confirm it happens on all slicers
Fantastic video, makes me wonder what causes the Antialiasing issue on the original Mini 8K.
Me too
@@wangdennys The biggest difference is the motherboard so maybe it is a Chitubox problem
Went an watched some of your other videos-- How about that unbreakable Onyx resin? Can it print in half the time on this machine?
Should I get this or printer elegoo Saturn 3?
I just bought one for 290.00. So cheap I couldn’t ever get buyers remorse! Just stopped by here to probably get my purchase choice confirmed.
Great video, as usual! Can you post a link to the steering wheel STL, please?
Ah the steering wheel is unfinish model that i made.
I plan to share it for my patreon.
excellent review as always! I really need to get one, I'm still on the mini 4K 😞 I cannot believe the normal 8K has issues with the antialiasing, that's so disappointing
Thank you
@@wangdennys btw, did you ever manage to fix the wobble problem on the MEGA 8K?
@@pgabrieli i did
Phrozen sent me new ballscrew and linear rail.
@@wangdennys did it fix it? it would be great if you could do an update video showing the installation and results
@@wangdennys damn, I bought it today. know that this is all your fault! 😂
I don't quite get the exposure time thing.
It can't ever go below 1s?
So If I want to print at 0.02mm layer height I will always overexpose and I can't set the exposure to the right setting (if, say 0.8s was correct)?
I wanted to preorder this, I paint competition level miniatures and want the best quality prints.
Somehow most print result are printed fine.
You can check in fb group, other tester print 0.02mm and it looks stunning.
Kinda confusing for me too.
@@wangdennys Thank you.
But I guess I can't preorder after all because "EU" actually seems to mean only some EU countries. 🥲
I hope you will do a comparison between Sonic Mini 8kS and Mighty 8k, because I am really divided about print size and want to buy Mighty but am intrigued by the print quality of Mini 8ks.
You could compare this video to mighty 8k video.
Me personally will go for mighty if i have the budget
Thank you for this wonderful review. I still have one question: what resin did you use through these tests?
Phrozen aqua grey 8k
@@wangdennys Thanks again. And one more question if you please: did you use antialiasing when printing that ideal 20 mm cube?
@@TheUglydandy i always use antialiasing
Hello, Dennys! have you experienced small bubbles inside transparent prints? I've been trying to print some transparent parts and cant get rid of them, I'm curious if you have some ideas on that. And thanks for calibration model, it helped a lot!
Make sure your resin is full and the part never come out of the resin when plate is lifting
@@wangdennys Yeah, tried that, didn't really help( I think that anycubick water wash resin is not that great, shrinks a lot and it maybe a culprit
bang minta rekomendasi resin buat ngeprint action figure dong, terutama bagian sendi biar gak mudah patah,, kalo bisa resin yang bise di beli di indonesia,, banyak yang rekomen resione m58 cuma belinya susah,,,
thanks for ur video! however i have a question, there is a magnetic ball in the build plate grip, what is that for?
Hah? Magnetic ball?
@@wangdennysyes theres a small magnet ball on the build plate handle, both sides. The one that grips to the new rail
If u take out the entire of the .. i dont know the name. The whole thing for the build plate, u can see the one that grips to the rail, has small magnet balls on the sides
@@brushwarrior9326 at what minute in my video?
@@wangdennys theres none thats why i asked u, becoz i just lost a couple, so i come across your video to see if u had mentioned whats that for
So to fix x-axis AA on Sonic Mini 8K then I just have to buy an entirely new 8KS printer and throw my 8K away? lol 😂
I have no experience with 3D printing and am thinking about getting one.
I'm really impressed with what the printers can do these days.
Does it make sense to start with a device like the Mini 8k s, or should I try another printer instead?
Considering the price
It is ideal for entry level user.
Bonus good quality print.
Wow the 8ks wipes the floor with 8k ..and its absolut half the price
This is an awesome review and very detailed too. O wonder how well the new Anycubic M5s will perform against the 8Ks given it’s 12k, but weird resolution… x is 19 microns but the y is 24 microns. One of these will be my first resin printer so any information might help
Anycubic AA does it work?
If not, no matter how small the resolutio will be useless
@@wangdennys I don’t know, it is important but I also need it to be sharp, more concerned by the uneven pixel size
@@avjebs yep the uneven pixel size is weird.
@@wangdennys apparently elegoo will also use the same 12k 19*24um panel. Will you review one of them soon?
@@avjebs nope
They wont ship to my country yet
Are you by chance going to revisit this with the new firmware V3214 that fixes inconsistent exposure times? Thanks.
yes i will,
but inconsistent? i think the issue is it cannot go under 1s.
@@wangdennys I would agree, but the firmware release notes specifically say "Addressed the issue of inconsistent exposure time during printing". Most likely they mean the 1 second issue.
Hi, does anyone know how to continue printing after a power outage?
This may sound dumb, but the prints from the Mini 8k look “softer” than the prints from the Mini 8ks. Especially smaller details. It seems like the intensity of the UV makes the resin cure a touch crisper for the 8ks than for the 8k
It could be because my mini 8k has issue with antialiasing, it cannot get rid of the voxels that may cause details become soft.
And mini 8ks manage to get rid of the pixelation.
Can you share the chitubox settings for that resin? I'm having issues. Thanks
it seems you don't even bother watch the video before asking.
Hello, where did you find these bmw s1krr models, I want the same !!!
Check cults3d link in my video.
Sorry but none of my slicers can export to that PRZ format, how are you slicing for it?
Ask for the latest chitu version 1.9.5 beta
can this printer reduce the uv light power? Is there a setting for that?
nope
Will you be putting more of these new tests on Cults 3D?
Any chance you can show some ways to heat the resin ?
I will
@@wangdennys Amazing. I tried make a pump with a heater to circulate the resin out of the bottle to the heater and to the vat. But cleaning it was an issue
How did you change the Bottom retract distance and retract distance to 4.000?
small printer can use 4mm distance.
@@wangdennys mine is greyed out for some reason
Anyone know what splicers can work with it? Says' it only uses .prz files, and chitubox doesn't seem to export in that (at least the basic version). Or where to get the things actual info to put into a splicer like dimensions and resolution? They don't mention either specificly in the techniical details area of the product that I can find.
You have mini8k s?
Have you check the flasdisk?
Or contact my social media, i can send you the slicer
@@wangdennys Thanks for the offered help, though the included one wasn't installing right. My support ticket got a reply from Phrozen, so no "current" splicers publicly support it yet but should soon, but for now they sent me a copy for Chitubox beta build that does support it.
So, their store page saying it's currently supported by that whole list of splicers, legally false advertising in the US and grounds for returns. Their marketing team needs to be aware of the legal side of mixed timetables and how they need to word their claims. They can say supported Soon, or in a few more words that each one supports it in closed beta builds already that should be releasing soon, but as it was... not correct.
Well, support was quick enough to get back, so I doubt too many people would bother pushing on it legally in this case, but still something they should be aware of. Not the smoothest starting experience of their product I can say that. Get product, pop open a splicer they list and try to prep cones of callibration and some test items, find chitubox doesn't work. Open Lychee that they also list that I have, it doesn't work. Not surprised they don't have the unit itself on the presets, but can't even manually select that format on them in custom settings, it's just not present on the current builds. Did I just buy a brick that requires me to use one specific slicer that after 14 days (if it even worked) I'd have to pay for? Ya, strong anxiety and some anger got mixed in right then. Cooled down, googled, didn't find the answer, so tried posting a few places and on their support in case I just missed something.
Thanks for testing and comparing a few of the hoods with the UV tester. I had mentioned that idea to FauxHammer a week or two ago.
It makes me feel better about being lazy with leaving my casting resin in my Mini 8k.
Ever test the Anycubic Photon D2? My guess is it lets some ambient UV in.
Unfortunately no chance getting d2 yet.
I have seen a post on Reddit, I would not place the D2 near a window
@@runklestiltskin_2407 i see
Noted.
I still didn’t get a uv tester. Dennys much better than my channel for tests. I just test that they work
I forgot I had resin in my D2 for a couple months. It was in the center of the shop with very little indirect natural light. It got a weird skin that curled up a bit. Cleaned up easily, so no big deal.
I just ordered Chitu's UV meter because I'm curious now.
Denny, I'll test my Mini 8k and let you know where my screen is at in a few weeks. I estimate it has 150 hours on it.
Something to note that the more powerful the UV light the quicker the degradation of the screen (assuming it is the same screen).
Only time can tell
I just hope that they massively reduce the cost of replacement LCD's, as if they stick to current pricing, it's basically half the cost of teh printer for a new screen :/
@@noviceartisan This is the reason why I'm waiting on a decently priced dlp printer
Does the mini-8kS also use the standard phrozen plastic threads for the build plate armature to z-rod interface, as they did on the mini 4k? If so, what you saw was the plastic threads "beding" to the z-rod. If it's the same design it will be a spring loaded pair of plastic threads. That could easily explain the changes to the z-wobble lines. I can't believe I am actually thinking of buying another Phrozen product after getting burned with the pre-order mini 4K and the absolute disaster that thing has been. Only recently even started printing again as the thing soured me so badly on 3D printing it's been sitting in the closet on it's cart for over a year. The mini-8kS does seem to be a better design, but I just don't know if I can trust the single rail. I don't want another burn.
My advice.
If you hesitate, then don't buy it.
It is a budget printer after all, there will always some user getting the short stick.
@@wangdennys I've never had a problem with Phrozen's customer service. They were actually helpful in so much as when I got the mini 4k and it ate the plastic nuts 3 prints in. I got them fast and free. Their engineering team even contacted me and we tried out best to get the printer to "perform". As you found out, the old mini 4k was simply flawed engineering and nothing short of a double rail rebuild would get it to perform as advertised because of the deflection in the z-axis and that would take aftermarket parts. My only complaint was the whole process extended beyond the return window and they didn't extend that offer to me. The design of all the mini series printers afterwards including the double rail in the older 8K showed they clearly understood their engineering mistakes of the mini4K. My concern is.. is the engineering sound? Is the older 8k a superior unit with double rails? Is the 1s minimum print exposure being hard-coded something they will "patch out" with a firmware update? From your video, it would seem that they've solved the core design problems that made the mini 4k such a disaster... but.. I am uncertain. Never had a problem with phrozen's communication. I really should have been refunded on the printer because it was flawed product at it's very core. Other than that.. dunno.
@@meatybtz new firmware update is released, some said the 1s issue been fix.
But i havent got time to test it.
If the build plate was 92mm wide instead of 72mm wide I'd buy it. Unfortunately I have a very specific project and I'd love to have the excellent resolution but I need a slightly wider build plate.
Mighty 8k then
Where can I find your new exposure tester on 13:14
I havent upload it.
Soon will.
@@wangdennys thank you
What about antialiasing for Lychee? Any chance to see your video about it?)
Yes
Just download latest lychee and voxeldance tango to test the AA
@@wangdennys wow! Can’t wait to see the results 👍🏻
I see that Phrozen have released a new firmware update to fix the exposure time bug (min 1.0 layer time). Can you confirm that this fixes the issue? Thanks
I havent check it
I will find out
@@wangdennys Please update when you can!
still waiting for the fix for AA on MINI8K......
What Resin should be used with this printer? Some economic resin please. Can you recomend me one from anycubic, elego and phrozen. Thank you!
I use phrozen aqua grey 8k
@@wangdennys it is kind of expensive for me 40 resin +54 shipping to Spain for one liter. Can you recomend me something similar? I can see good coments about Anycubic DLP Craftsman
@@TzarChelo craftsman needs very high exposure to work.
Other than aqua grey 8k, i am not sure what else. Maybe one day i will find it.
@@wangdennys Thank you
Hello denny,
Do You plane to review mars 4 9k and M5s maybe?
Nope, they dont send me the printer, and unfortunately i cannot afford to buy new printer yet.
@dennys wang ahh, that's unfortunate :/ mars 4 9k vs sonic mini 8ks would be an interesting comparison. I asked elegoo, and linear rail on m4 9k is 15mm wide with 4mw/cm² for uv strength.
@@smokehead5318 imo 4um resolution wont be visible at all.
But i am curious about the rail, because mars use the usual 15mm rail so is it as stable as mini 8ks or not.
Maybe help me comment on elegoo page and ask them send me unit for review? LOL
@@wangdennys I will;)
@@smokehead5318 thank you
Maybe the exposure time can be fixed in firmware.
Is it possible that the actual UV exposure is 0.2 seconds but the minimum mechanical cycle time takes 1 second?
Or was the UV expsoure also always 1 second?
What happens when you increase the exposure to 0.3, 0.4, 0.5, etc.? Does it increase to 1.3, 1.4, 1.5, etc.???
Anything above 1s printed with correct exposure.
Anything under 1s got override to 1s fix.
I tested all increments from 0.2 upto 2s
FauxHammer did a good video on this as well using a GoPro. I imagine Phrozen could fix it with a firmware update. I could make a difference for me if I had the 8ks. I routinely print 0.03mm layers for castable resins.
I'd recommend this printer for anyone starting out with anyone casting jewelry.
@@bensgizmo2960 It's really redundant to stop printers from printing layers at 0.02mm when the xy is .02mm, why make the z height 2x more with no way to print at the correct height?
Can you measure the light deviation of each region on the Mini 8KS? Thanks Video is great
I have measure it in the video
@@wangdennys H😍ello. II watched it but can you make a video between 2 small ones? It is very important for jewelry printers
It is the light uniformity test in the video chapter.
Between 2 small one?
for those who print water pages it is very difficult when the error exceeds 100. thanks for this overview video
I dont get it
Water pages?
The H is filled in on the abc block for 8k
I don't know if its just me but the Mini 8ks prints all have a very slight blue hue and the Mini 8k has a yellow hue.
I review several printers.
And interestingly somehow even if you use the same resin, the print result will have slightly different hue
Would you get this over an Elegoo Saturn 2?
Different build size compare to saturn 2.
I havent test it yet.
But people said the saturn 2 has z flex tower issue?
@@wangdennys I just want to print warhammer armies, regular imperial knights etc. Does the mini 8k s do that as well?
@@Beaunage that gonna be piece of cake.
LOL
If you have some knowledge on electronics, I feel like you could easily modify the printer and put the power button and USB port on the front. Just cut out some holes, and rewire.
Too lazy to do it.
LOL
Phrozen: Mt. Dew Edition
Could we somehow make phrozens board accept Prusa slicer files? Im so sick of chitu and lychee
Are there any really nice resins that nobody uses 'cause they take too long to cure? Be neat to find a high detail slow resin to pair with this machine.
any idea?
@@wangdennys 😅 Yeah once I found your other videos.
mini 8ks looks pretty good for $270, but I have to say compared to a 10.3" 8K Nova3D Whale3 SE for $499, the winner is Whale3 SE by far for particularly someone who is a prosumer or higher level user.
The details on the mini 8K/S are ok on their own, way better against 'competitors' like Anycubic and Elegoo, but embarrassing vs. the huge Whale3 SE. The Whale3 SE can and does print astonishingly well *using supports with 0.25mm tips* at .050mm layer height, the tiniest minis to big figures and also functional mechanical parts flat on the build plate.
I admit I'm a serious proponent of products that give the best price/performance with as much user configuration/parameter control as possible.
In this case the only 10" 8K contender that the Nova3D Whale3 SE _might_ have would be the new Creality Mage Pro, yet reviewers are already reporting serious looking problems with the Mage Pro, both build-quality and print-quality issues...
In any case, you have among the best practical reviews and videos about 3D printers on CZcams, and excellent presentation and production in your videos, thank you very much!
You should see if Nova3D will send you a Whale3 SE to review, more people need to know how good these are.
Lmao nice try Nova3D marketing team
@@NobodyInTraining Unfortunately, Nova3D doesn't seem to have enough of a marketing team, and they should.
Everything I wrote is true, I bought and paid full price for all of my printers, the Nova3D printers I own have done exactly what they are supposed to do consistently from day one.
There's nothing wrong with companies that make substandard products or the people who don't know any better who buy and make use of them, if that's good for them.
I'm just not one of those.
Just out of curiosity, what printer(s) do you own?
Nova3d did email me before for review.
But somehow after i reply, they ghosting me till now 😆
@@wangdennys Nova3D seems to be having some troubles these days, it's taking longer to get responses from them, but they do respond, eventually.
It's a shame, they need to get printers to serious reviewers like you, the printers would speak for themselves.
@@retromodernart4426 it's been almost 2 months without reply. maybe you could help send email to them too, to remind them. LOL
Its me or the 8k LCD is broken??
How?
Masukin 8ks kesini juga ga om??
Cuma tes unit dikirimin langsung sama phrozen buat review
@@wangdennys yaudh klo ada rencana lepas unit testnya kabar2in yah 😁😁
10:28... bug spray ASAP.
LOL
bang kok bisa dapet ?, di tokopedia belum ada hahaha
Dikirim lgs dr phrozen untuk review
at 13:30 there is again visible, that the 0,03 (right side) is overexposed.
Great observation
@@wangdennys dennys, do you use chitbox pro 1.3 for supports etc.? The AA settings are different then in the non pro version.
@@TierDrama I am still using the free beta version for mini 8k s
@@wangdennys and for other printes?
Bunyi sensor homingnya kaya mau lawan boss
Kaya alarm jadul yang jahanam. Hahahahaha
Ok! Here's a warning against it, build plate was uneven, prints didn't stick to the left side, and on the third print and second failure the piece that fell got crushed between the plate and the screen tearing a tiny hole in the nFEP, luckily it was small enough that no resin managed to get through, but IPA when cleaning was able to...
So ya, build quality/reliability... Got my new printer, and right out of this high I need to replace a build plate, replace an nFEP, and was scarily close to needing to replace the screen. And Phrozen claims to have no warranty on these parts if they fail even on new orders. It's been a bit over a day now since I sent the help request about that uneven build plate and no reply.
So... buy a Sonic Mini 8K S... do three prints, two with failures... possibly need to shell out a bunch more for replacement parts... these tiny couple test minis are the most expensive miniatures I have ever bought... and I question if it's worth it to buy the new parts if they don't replace those, sunken cost phalacy and all, yes, it would be down $300 plus dollars... but if I put out another $120 and get another miss and failure... Oof... not sure what everyone elses experiences are who are getting these, but mine is definitely not good and frankly just terrible. Now, I can't print, and am stuck with that anxiety of waiting for them to respond.... Would NOT recommend.
Check my previous video for tips to get good leveling.
@@wangdennys Ya, the first plate was just bent, outright. No fixing that, the left side was not good. Got a replacement plate, two papers method still isn't good enough. This one is flat at the start, but if I tighten it so it wont shift vertically then just doing that, even not nearly as tight as I'd like, is able to bend the plate enough to lose grip on the sides. Not even using the hex wrench, just finger tightening was enough to bend it notably. It's a design flaw, that they seem to ignore when I report.
And to top it off, when I left a review on the printer, I came back after a day and they'd deleted it. So ya, I don't trust them anymore and don't think I'll ever buy anything Phrozen again, and don't really recommend it to anyone else currently. Good customer support is nice... but when they just give you another bad item as a replacement for your first bad item.... and delete reviews they don't like...
@terricon4
hello, did You solve Your issue? That sound really terrible tbh, because I know that is hard to find replacement in my area.
@@smokehead5318 1 person bad experience doesnt reflect all.
You will see same complaint on anycubic, elegoo, epax and all brands of 3d printer.
It is just bad luck.
@wangdennys thanks:) You brought my hope back ;) seriously
well this does not help my choice... as to which machine to purhcase
If your fund is limited, then go for mini 8k s.
If fund unlimited i prefer mighty 8k.
AA on mini8k still not fixed? then better avoid phrozen at all, maybe anycubic 12k instead
Anycubic aa never works except for the dlp
Not sure about the 12k, but my best guess the aa also doesnt work.
I have the original photon mono and AA does not work at all even though it was supposed to work according to anycubic.
Don't get me wrong, it is an amazing printer and has been working perfectly for over 2 years now.
I got sucked into buying one of those terrible GKtwo printers by that idiot fauxhammer.
What issue you have?
@@wangdennys Z motor broke 2 days after getting the printer, and the heater didn't work. been trying to get a refund for over a month.
Rod Genardini uffff sorry to hear that.