Why Obi-Wan Was so WEAK Against Dooku In Attack of the Clones - Star Wars Explained
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To be fair, Obi-Wan had just a massive battle in the Geonosian arena against hundreds of battle droids, so fatigue may have played a part in his defeat against Dooku, not just the Count’s superior dueling prowess
That’s a factor I never really thought about, not to mention he’d been held captive for a bit and was going across the galaxy looking for Jango before that
That's true but he still would've lost fairly quickly. Probably bout fairing much better but you're right. I believe fatigue had a lot to play into why he got utterly destroyed by Dookyu there.
It was the superior swagger.
Never before had Obi-Wan met someone with that much swagger.
The custom, elegent, lightsaber with that curve at the end.
That cape.
Purposefully fighting with one hand.
Noble level rethoric.
Perfect beard.
Obi-Wan never had a chance.
That’s a horrible excuse for his defeat. He had a break when he got on the gunship. Also jedis are supposed to be active battle ready through training
Wasn't count dooku weakened from old age it was stated
There were so many times Dooku spared Anakin and Obi Wan. He could have killed them like a dozen times each.
in the novels it’s mentioned that Dooku had a certain affection towards Obi Wan, seeing him as a continuation of Qui Gon, and by extension, Dooku‘s legacy. he didn’t care for anakin but Palpatine ordered him to keep him alive
Excellent breakdown. Dooku was much more powerful and experienced than ObiWan and Anakin. During their first meeting, Dooku likely could have killed both. Not only was he more focused on escape, he saw ObiWan as a grandchild of sorts. Maintaining high regard for QuiGon, and as you stated, he was very disappointed in ObiWan's skill with the light saber.
Deep down, it's likely Dooku was hoping to turn ObiWan to the dark side as his apprentice in order to eventually kill Sideous. A sentiment which is brought out in the novelization when we learn of Dooku's conversation with the Emperor on the Invisible Hand at the end of the war.
Dooku was also under orders to leave Anakin 'unspoiled'. As Dooku would later learn of his master's plan for Anakin. Well, at least part of his master's plan.
Lol
I mean, in the movie Dooku literally holds his sword over his head to bring down on Obi-Wan, but Anakin comes and blocks it. Dooku was definitely about to kill Obi-Wan. He also dropped a pillar on them, although I’ll concede that was more to distract Yoda and he knew they’d live.
Dooku should have kept his head on a swivel
Honesty I think the reason why Count Dooku lasted that long against Yoda is because he's one of the most talented swordsman alive at that point but more importantly he's been training with the Yoda his entire life. It's kind of like how obi wan who had no business keeping up with Anakin/Vader lasted so long because he's been training with him his entire life and know him inside and out.
Yeah. Knowing eachother's moves and fighting styles certainly helps.
man the Anakin hype is over the top
@@slickchick5811man, i am so happy that Anakin was in the Ahsoka series. He is simply the best character in this universe. He alone made Ahsoka the best Star Wars series till now. I hope they will make a series called Anakin. I want to learn everything about his live. 🤗 needless to say that Anakin would win against everybody in the stws universe.
Well, that and the fact that Obi Wan was a naturally defensive fighter which was the perfect counter to Anakin's more aggressive style. He knew his moves AND he utilized a style that was perfect to defeat that version of Anakin. Now Vader, that's a totally different beast as Vader was an older, wiser Anakin who developed his style to compensate for his limitations and utilized a slower but more disciplined style that utilized powerful strikes. I always saw a bit of Dooku in Vader but far more powerful and dangerous.
In sparring Anakin was not god yet
On mustafar, yes fighting together for 3 years, but also he is the soresu master by that point and deserves credit himself
Soresu was *the* form of compensating a power difference
Without even mentioning the experience gap, Dooku is the stylistic nightmare for Obi-Wan. While Ben's Form 3 is like a bubble that protects his whole body, Dooku's Form 2 is like a high-pressure spike that pierces through.
Obi-wan had psyched himself out before the fight, he told Anakin he couldn't take Dooku alone.
Dooku was the fencing / duelist teacher for the Jedi? He trained everyone, including General Grievous?
@@MrAgmoore wrong
I love these dueling-centric videos. They've been great for my PTSD and have helped me to better analyze my own swordsmanship while rehabilitating my leg.
Ok mr jedi
I'm actually glad you're expanding your horizons with your third Channel, it could be a very difficult thing to do but I'll support you all the way. Plus that voice can get you very far
It’s worth noting that Episode Obi Wan had not yet hit his prime. Four years of constant war and many duels honed him into a far more skilled fighter by the time of Revenge of the Sith. Weak Jedi didn’t survive long in the war.
What makes order 66 even more scary is that the Jedi at that point, though numerically diminished, were overall easily the most skilled and experienced in combat the Order had seen in several thousand years. Take the entire Order at the time of Order 66 and they would have made a mighty army. Unfortunately Palpatine had set things up in a way that spread them thin across the galaxy as individuals alone with thousands of Clones preprogrammed to kill them.
Dooku was a true lightsaber duelist
He was, his Sword combat was really impressive that even Emperor palpatine was outmatched by Count dooku,s superior skills⚡⚡.
@@haroldalan7080---Doesn't surprise me at all. Thanks for responding.
Dooku had the unfair advantage of being portrayed by Sir Christopher Lee.
😂
Dooku is so much more important and integral in the Clone Wars than we initially thought when the movies came out. I'm glad we can look back at it now and fully appreciate how educated, powerful and dangerous Dooku was. He wasn't just some old man, he would be the one sith to let the jedi fully realize how wrong they were and how too late it was for them. Dooku's role in the Clone Wars could not be understated and I'm hoping we see something just as prominent in the new Ahsoka series.
There are no excuses.
Dooku was far more powerful at that point.
When someone is stronger with the Force their force augmentation also increases which means greater force enhanced strength and speed.
Thats why Dooku was easily overpowering Obiwan in saberlock.
By EP3 its stated in the novel that Obiwan was stonewalling Dookus attacks and he was ready to counter his force choke.
Sidious broke Obiwans force shield when he yelled "GIT" which allowed Dooku to choke Obiwan
Obiwan was relative to Dooku in EP3,weaker but now he could stalemate him with his defence forever
Anakin himself was nearly completely equal to Dooku before tapping to the darkside to overpower Dooku.
And if you doubt it,go look at the comments behind the writers about describing Dooku.
He is said to be far more skilled and far more POWERFUL than Anakin and Obiwan in EP2
Its also stated that while Anakin has a lot of power inside him he cant actually use it due to inexperience.
So effectively he was never as strong as the top tiers in the prequels
I've lost count of how many times I've heard people claim that the primary reason Qui-Gon was defeated by Darth Maul was that he was too "weak" because of his age. If that's true, then why was Dooku as *strong* as he was in Episode 2 despite being decades *older* than Qui-Gon was in Episode 1?
@@SingleTaxweak isn’t the right word, he was way older than maul and didn’t have the stamina to keep up. Not only that but qui gons form IV of dueling is not good in small spaces, and the room that they ended up in was tiny. If anything it shows the intelligence of maul to guide the duel to a place where he had the advantage
@@juice_man4439 Why would being "way older" than Maul even be relevant unless being way older was the very thing that made Qui-Gon too "weak" to "keep up"?
@@SingleTax look at human physiology, the older someone is, in general, the less endurance they have. Look at the first time when qui gon fought maul on tatooine. He was out of breath after a short fight. Form IV is a very physically demanding form, and qui gon being older would tire out faster. It’s simple, maul was younger and was in better physical shape than qui gon. It’s not that qui gon was “weak”, he was just physically inferior to maul, who was a beast and in his physical prime. Also maul and qui gon were nearly equal in terms of skill, while Dooku in episode 2 outclassed every jedi other than Yoda fairly easily, making him appear “strong”
Dooku was also weaker in ep3 from the corruption of the dark side
Wait. I thought the Episode 3 novel indicated that Dooku didn't know Obiwan had switched to Soresu. He and Anakin used a feint by starting with Ataru, and then both switched to their new styles which surprised Dooku.
At least, that's how I remember it. I could be wrong of course. Memory is unreliable.
I’ll go with that👍
Do more breakdowns like this plz not just for the movies but also for the show and also the battles fought and how the Jedi or even separatists turned the battle with w/e they did
I fw the lightsaber duel analysis stuff and how in depth you go wit it
I do love the highly detailed breakdown of lightsaber combat, the prequels had some of if not the best sword fighting cheorography in any movie ever. The clone wars tv show also did a fantasric job of more clearly showing different forms of lightsaber combat and how particular practioners used altered or combined different srylesand philosophys of battle to contruct what worked besr for them. You should analyze somw of the clone wars tv show duels, id really love to see your take and breakdown on maul and savage opress vs darth sideous
I think that these videos are amazing!! They give us more insight on the possible reasons why the fights ended the way they did.
I'm marathoning a bunch of your videos right now and this is one of my favorites. So many fascinating side details that add so much.
I thought that was simply because Count Dooku’s light saber style Form II Makashi, was extremely strong and a counter to Form III Soresu. That’s also why Anakin’s Form V, Djem So was able to overpower and overcome Dooku’s Form II.
No it was bc obi wan hadn’t fully perfected Soresu form yet and hadn’t incorporated the footwork of ataru into his form yet so when dooku forced kenobi to fall back on ataru and go on the attack and ataru is super weak to dooku’s makashi
Bro everything you just said is some random bullshit they came up with after the movies were already finished lol
@@Ancienthistoryshorts Ehhh…I also kind of disagree with that because he was a Master by time we hit Episode III and he still got clapped.
@@rq4740 MAYBE, but it also makes sense too. Anakin overpowered Dooku multiple times throughout the Clone Wars animated series AND during Episode III. He basically destroyed him in III because he was fueling the Dark Side but he would’ve overpowered him anyway. Form V strikes are hard to defend against for a Form II practitioner. Form II’s precision and precise strikes are easily able to counter a defense style like Form III anyway but what he mentioned also makes perfect sense too. It might be some “random BS” but it also makes sense to an extent.
Nah. Count Dooku’s Form II was special in that Count Dooku had perfected the Form. Obi Wan hadn’t perfected Form III yet but when he did, Dooku knew it
Love the content and storytelling, keep it up!
Yes, I love when you break down these duels in great detail.
Very well thought out explanation of this duel.
Yeah, we do like this. Keep at it. Thanks.
Dude was distracted. Only Jedi that worried about feeding his family. He’s putting that food on the table bruh.
As always another good holocron. Thank you for your time and effort to bring us weary space travelers, these holocrons of the galaxy. Keep up the great work!
You said it, his masters master. I believe it was a combination of experience and psychological intimidation by the Count.
Like Mr . Mayigi from karate kid said, use karate or Jedi lifesaver attack for only defense
I love this details of the lightsaber duels my brotha simply amazing and keep em coming
Love the breakdown thanks!
Yes i like the break downs, keep it up i enjoy them and thank you
Well done ! Another great analysis video. Ive been following you since 2021 and a horror channel? I love horror .
This is where the fun begins
...it was the mullet
Great breakdown! Very astute indeed!
i like your video a lot, nice work
How many British actors have done brilliantly playing Star Wars characters? 😏 🇬🇧
Count Dooku/Darth Tyranus - Christopher Lee
Sheev Palpetine/Darth Sidious - Ian Mcdermid
Darth Maul - Ray Park
Rey Skywalker - Daisy Ridley
Obi wan young - Ewan McGregor
Obi wan old - Alec Guiness
Qui Gonn Jinn - Liam Neeson
Grand moff Tarkin : Peter Cushing
Darth Vader - David Prowse (Physical actor)
Always makes me uncomfortable, how Jedi/Sith hold their lightsabers so close to the blade 😰
The reason why Obi Wan was so weak against Dooku are the same reasons that Anakin was so weak against Obi Wan
Dooku was Obi Wan's master's master and was intimately knowledgeable about Obi Wan's strengths and weaknesses.
Unlike every other opponent Obi Wan faced Dooku knew Obi Wan's style was a defensive style and thus forced him to be more aggressive. In addition to that Dooku was a far more experienced tactician and master duelist and Obi Wan couldn't manipulate Dooku's emotion like he could with Anakin.
Obi Wan never stood a chance
Dooku wasn’t obi wans master
@@zbanul10 You read the sentence wrong. I didn't say he was his master. I said he was his *Master's* master.
But under Qui Gon, Obi Wan's style wasn't defensive. He learned Ataru from his master.
I agree with all your points, very well argued. Would I would also add,was that Obi Wan and Anakin were likely exhausted after the Battle of Geonosis. In Dooku’s defense however, in my opinion, even if the pair did go in fresh I don’t think it would have made any difference. Dooku would have to put in a little more effort, but he would still triumph.
Probably due to Dooku was ALSO THE Master of his style too. An his, form 2, was THE style for one v one/tiny groups duels. An with not much or any real attack abilities against that sorta peer how would Kenobi really beat him??
thank you
Most awesome vid!!!!!
Very interesting!
The elegance of lightsaber forms.
From the movies, I assumed that a padawan always trains under a Master. I didn't realize that Obi was a "Knight" ( or that there was an in-between class ). I mean... Luke went straight from Padawan to Jedi Master?
I thought it was obvious: Obi Wan tried to beat Dooku the same way he beat Maul but Dooku had a different blade style and was a Jedi turned Sith (not just a Sith Lord).
Also Obi Wan tried to outflank him with Anakin like with Qui Gon but Anakin rushed Dooku and knocked himself out of the fight, leaving Obi Wan alone. Instead of going offensive he should have gone defensive but he had become as arrogant as he was defiant (not much but still there). He let himself be goaded by Dooku into attack and it was only due to Anakin’s second intervention that Obi wan survived.
It's like he had never heard of force lightning?
@@MrAgmoorenot sure who you’re referring to. If you mean Obi Wan that’s incorrect as he intercepted the lightning with his blade before Dooku activated his own. It’s likely he taught Anakin the same technique but in his impatience and anger, Anakin disregarded it as he rushed Dooku.
As for Anakin, he was trying to get back to Padmé so likely wasn’t thinking clearly entering the fight. He also rushed Dooku with his lightsaber probably expecting a confrontation similar to Qui Gon/Obi Wan ten years earlier; not force lightning. Lastly he was still a Padawan, as powerful and experienced as he had become there was a high possibility Darth Tyranus would defeat him (without Jedi Knight Obi Wan Kenobi’s help). In the end he has to face Dooku alone and gets his hand cut off; even when he briefly overwhelms the Count with two lightsabers he is quickly disarmed and defeated without a second hit of lightning to incapacitate him.
Can relate.
Yoda with a killed Dooku I think eventually I think Dooku was running for his life
Someday I'd like to study the lightsaber forms. It always amazes me how people can tell which form is being used. It all looks the same to me, at least for now.
The impression that I got, was that Dooku wasn’t interested in fighting Obi-Wan (his apprentice’s apprentice) , but rather wanted to test Anakin. And by Revenge of the Sith, not only had Anakin learned that lesson and gotten stronger and faster, but Dooku’s age had betrayed the older man, as his endurance wasn’t up to a prolonged fight and with lightsabers, all it takes is one slip.
Beyond that, I’ve never understood how one person could hold off fighting two or more opponents, at the same time, only for it to become a far different fight once it gets down to a one on one matchup. I mean if the first guy was fighting the others by way of series one on ones while his final opponent was for whatever reason holding back or trying to catch-up, I could understand it. But at the same time? The only way I could think of them is if the first guy had grown overconfident or tired or took injury or their surroundings had changed or their weapons changed.
First, I agree with the age part. Everyone seems to ignore that in the episode III novel it states dookus age had caught up with him and he was tired from the whole war, and he knew it. Second, I agree with the whole 2v1 thing, it doesn’t make sense how it barely makes a difference. I get it with something like the first Dooku vs Anakin and obi fight since he was just far more skilled, but other fights it doesn’t make sense
8:22 - Lol Obiwan got so good at it in Episode 3 that he even does his hair flip pose to taunt Dooku - Like Come On
The only form four of lightsaber combat Dooku struggled with was probably Yoda's formed for Atara
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2:15 Dooku didn't "stalemate the great grand master". I clearly recall "fought well you have, my old padawan".
Yoda should have just force pushed Anakin and Obi Wan out of the way of the rocks.
Bruce Lee: "It is not the man who practices a thousand kicks I fear, but the man who practices one kick a thousand times."
The Jolly Joker tricked Anakin but he was ridiculed by Tyranus
5:38 why Obi Wan not went, okay then he wants me to attack, so I'm not going anyway, because I trying to delay dooku to let my fellow jedi arrive
Dooku is a Form 2 (Makashi) specialist. Form 2 focuses on technique and precision rather than brute force or speed.
Makashi is aimed at deconstructing the enemy's defenses and offenses.
As opposed to Anakin, who is a form 5 (Shien) user and focuses on overpowering the opponent, and to Yoda, who is a form 4 (Ataru) user and focuses on overwhelming the opponent.
Because of that, Form 2 allows one to defend themselves from enemies that are physically much stronger or agile (as opposed to form 5, which focuses on strenght, and form 4, which focuses on speed).
It also avoids tiring the user by using efficient and minimal movements (as opposed to form 4, which can easily tire it's user).
Dooku trained against the Sith specially with his form 2 only to turn into one after the arrogance of the Jedi and their mute reaction to the death of Qui Gon Jin.
Form 2 is the perfect foil(fencing joke) to form 3, and form 4 plus Dooku trained Qui gon and is his Jedi father which makes Obi Wan his grandson. Obi was always going to have a hard time.
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I love the video. But I think Dooku distracted Yoda out of desperation
Sidius was not superior to Yoda. Yoda was able to overcome Sidius’ force powers but the shockwave knocked his smaller frame further. Had they been on the ground and Sidius not had the high ground, Yoda would have defeated him.
Here's some video ideas with all due respect:
- Why anakin believed he was better swordsman than Yoda in EP2
- Anakin's childhood at the jedi temple
- Dooku's life as younger
- A video about notable swordmasters (Duelists that were really good with lightsabers)
- Palpatine coming back as clone (dark empire)
- How Yoda trained to become so powerful himself
- and maybe a detailed video on Yoda's isolation on dagobah 😊
It comes down to forms used makishi focus on blade to blade combat and dukoo was a master of it so he could use well placed strikes to slowly tear down defenses and an all defensive form is horrible against it while anikan used his power to overwhelm dukoo and repost for defenses and obi wan has no force shield I mean kenobi got rag dolled by dukoo while dukoo was trying to hold off anikan
People don't realize blaster bolts go faster than bullets.
It's, it's just in the movies they don't.
In the books they slow down time with the force
It’s Sir Christopher Lee, DUH!!
One thing I hate is when everyone only partially put blame on Obi-wan Everyone fully blames every dark sider or evil character for there mistakes even the jedi council and Yoda for thinking they could defeat Sidious and the Sith like they did 1000 years before that or how the Jedi Treated Anakin but everyone always shields Obi-wan because he is Obi-Wan he could do no wrong or if he does it's not all his fault even Luke doesn't get that protection like Obi-wan does It's okay to love Obi-wan and criticize him people treat him like is space Jesus or so good at things that Palpatine's foresight is treated as weaker than anything Obi-wan thinks or does
Lol, what?
We all know that Obi-Wan failed Anakin as a mentor and father figure, was too by the Council’s orders and is a liar. And that’s on top of having no room in his heart for redemption.
He could’ve helped Anakin after he clipped his wings on Mustafar or put him out of his misery. But he instead chose to leave him there. Despite everything Anakin had done by Mustafar, it wasn’t until it became clear that Anakin had turned fully to Sith and against everything that Jedi stood for, that Obi-Wan believed him to be truly lost and beyond redemption. His apprentice had chosen to the Darkside, so that was that.
And 19/20 years later, starts training his apprentice’s son to kill him, lying to him about his father’s identity on the off chance that the boy wouldn’t be able to handle that fact. He needed that boy to fix the Council’s, and his, mistake, while he still had time to see to the boy’s training. Yet he held off training or guiding Luke in any shape or form until he nearly 20 years old and then sent him to train under Yoda who he knew had nearly turned Luke’s father away since he at 8/9 was too old to train and who had nearly turned himself away from training since he was at 3 almost considered to be too old.
Obi-Wan was the ideal Jedi of his day. But that included both the Order’s pros and cons. But that’s aside from the personal flaws that everyone has.
Be assured that we don’t put Obi-Wan on a pedestal next to space Jesus, like too many fans now-a-days put his apprentice, the guy who chose to spend half of his life as the right hand man of space hit!€4.
Dooku beat them so easily too. Interesting video
Dooku was probably the 3rd best lightsaber duelist behind yoda and sidious
seems like a lot of these power levels are a combination of experience, natural strength and focus (will to fight). The beat down jedis always fare poorly...emotion and focus seems to fuel their power. everybody keep talking about Qui Gons age but Dooku and Yoda (Mace?) are older still so that doesn't explain anything.
Considering he neutralized Yoda, it's easy to conclude he was pretty skilled. The only Jedi at that time that could've defeated him was probably Plo Koon.
As always, may the force be with you… …always
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The question we’ve all been wondering…no excuses lol. You went HAM on Maul but didn’t display 1/10 of that ferocity with Dooku. Cmon ol’ Ben…
Dooku vs Obi Wan. Grandpa vs his nephew.
The father, Qui-Gon was killed.
I always wondered why the Jedi never ousted Dooku as a Sith Lord to the Galaxy? It isn't like they couldn't use the propaganda or pr boost, and it's not like the Galaxy had never heard of a Jedi falling to the darkside... weird....
I forgot how much more “real” the Ep1 fight was vs the flourishing of Ep2&3. I guess you could say in Ep1 they were very skilled but simply trying to kill each other, but later on they were all Jedi duelists who knew each other’s training and were probing for a gap to exploit rather than going for a kill with each swing
I would love if you could discuss Anakins skill as a duelest at this point.
I personally think Anakin was correct when he said the Jedi were holding him back.
During the speeder chase Obi-wan stated "if you practiced your Saber technique as often as your wit, you would rival Master Yoda as a swords man" to which Anakin replied "I thought I already did." Which Kenobi dismisses.
Yet Anakin, still a Padawan Learner, managed to not only hold his ground against Duku, a Master of form 2, but even had him on the defensive for almost a minute.
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So... in summary... he was working on mastering a new form of lightsaber combat at the time, which he hadn't perfected yet.
I hate what they do with the empty hand when they go into a break from the fight, extending or exposing their arm in a flourish thing that is useless, all the fights in the prequel has this and I hate it.
Obi-Wan was exhausted by this point
the hardest fight of his life up to this point had been Maul, who he only beat through surprise. Maul taking him seriously would have killed him
Maul was hilariously outclassed by Sidious, and at least with a blade, Dooku was better than Sidious
And this was not the Kenobi of the end of the war (who still got stomped by a weaker version of Dooku)
so yeah, this fight was 100% 'stall and pray'
It had nothing to do with Star Wars canon.
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When you go up against Lord Summersisle and Saruman, you're going to get whupped!
Obi-Wan lost to Dooku 2 times, in revenge of the sith he lost too. Anakin defeat of count was really a great achievement.
Stalemate? Dooku was on defense most the fight then did a cheap trick to escape.
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I think a much better explanation than all the BS about forms that, plain and simple, Kenobi was worn out from just fighting a battle and Dooku was still fresh. Kenobi was one of the most talented bladesmen in the order but he was wasted on that day.
I would like to know why Count dooku never killed Obi-Wan he had Plenty of opportunity to. Maybe part of it is because he wanted Obi-Wan as an apprentice but I don't think that's the whole reason
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...from a certain point of view
"Yoda spoke so highly of you, surely you can do better?"
What I don't understand is, why everyone losing a limb is getting mechanic replacements? I mean, we have already achieved giving a man who lost both hands giving him new ones, so isn't such a difficult technology. And in the millennia of high tech, no one in the galaxy ever tried to develop this? I mean, we are even about to grow organs on a petri dish, and they just have mechanical hands and legs?
Well Star Wars is very old... like 50 years old in the 1970's. It was very futuristic for its time.
Episode 2: Dooku beats Obiwan and Anakin. By Episode 3, It was a rock-paper-scissors ordeal between Obiwan, Anakin and Dooku. Dooku beats Obiwan, Anakin beats Dooku and Obiwan beats Anakin.
Proceeds to listen to DJ Dooku after watching this
Master Plo Koon was the only one to beat Yoda in a lightsaber duel
Day 290 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon
Keep up the good work. God speed.
@@zackiechan7895 While it is always best to believe in oneself, a little help from others goes a long way. For I am one with the Force and the Force is with me. May the Force be with you...always.
My suggestion is how powerful is Luke Skywalker in Canon and legends
Wasnt palpatine kind of holding obi wan back somehow because the plan was for anakin to fight dooku alone.
Why couldn’t those four Jedi last more than a split second against palpatine? How did palpatine get to be so strong?