C6 Corvette or Mustang? | Which is the BETTER drift chassis?
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- čas přidán 12. 07. 2021
- Is the Corvette better as a drift car than the Mustang? Well, since both were working and we had a track day coming up, it was time to find out! The C6 may be the newer build, but with a 610bhp LS3 and the S197 packing 896bhp from a supercharged Boss 302, was it worth building a new car? Let us know which one you would like to drift?
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Which would you guys choose to drift? The Corvette or the Mustang?
Corvette
Vette
Drift the vette and then go broke
C6
Vett all the way
The agility of that corvette is actually bloody unreal.
The seat in the mustang looks like its barely bolted in
It’s in need of a new rail for sure
So sketchy
Literally just started building the rtr car on assetto lol. Josh's cars are almost done 😅 i needed more shots to make them more accurate but this works 👌
Definitely Corvette 👍 unusual, and cool looking car
Just need to improve the heat management (vents /bigger fans?) and she will be spot on
You need to run the zestinoes👍🏻 looked so much faster, and most important you looked so more comfortable.
Our thoughts exactly
I 3rd that 👌
Great video guys!!
Corvette all day… usually a big fan of blow off valve noises but the corvette just sounds next level
You boys have totally changed my perspective on cars, 2 years ago I would never have said I like a Mustang / vette or NC but after watching the builds I'm starting to appreciate them, especially that vette and it's savage sound 👌
We’re not sure if that’s a good or bad thing 😂
@@driftgames_life most definitely a good thing, the only bad part is I can't afford them or even the tyres for them 🤣
@@mrmalavey1098 neither can we, but sure look 😝
I think your way more comfortable in the vette for sure. You can carry much more angle in it at speed. I do think you use the hydro a little bit too much at times, some of the corners it’s needed but I think if you go without you could carry more speed and the track would flow a little better for you
Forgot how good both off these cars sounded 😍😍 awesome think am in the corvette camp and that's only down to looks
Every lap with the Corvette it looked like it could be pushed harder. Your conclusion that the cars were driver limited is spot on. But damn, that was most obvious in the Corvette
Mustang for the next BDC or fix the cooling on the other. Better cold air flow around the engine and some type of heat wrap on the tunnel. Help you focus on driving. Then the temp's 👍
I love how you guys cut away from the cars to get some sick scooter action :)
Loved this video! Love seeing these on track. Seat time and testing time will be hugely valuable. You've got 3 really killer cars that have all the capability. If you put in the work on the front end it will pay out at competition.
I like both. Both has their own pros and cons
You make it look so effortless entering the corners fella, always loved the RTR even when it was Vaughn's but the corvette is just something else all together! I mean full carbon body alone is just crazy!
The crazy thing is that carbon body was done to be cheaper too
@@JD-eo7dr that's still baffling to me! Saw him wall tap at BDC and I felt so bad after all that work! But I guess a weapon like that needs a few scars!
@@lucableasdale4227 walls are there to be tapped.... sponsorship is definitely needed at this level
@@JD-eo7dr oh aye #missle 😂
I love my s197 i can do a whole track day with the AC on and the kiddo in the back seat. That was my sole reasoning behind purchasing a Mustang was the back seat. If that doesn't matter to you c6 is the way to go. If I'm going to be bias towards Fords the visibility is better and bang for the buck you can't beat the Mustang
Go on Dave😂, would love a spin in one of them, won a chance few years back to get a spin with jack but was in hospital, typical 😂
I would definitely say that the Corvette has way more potential. The amount of angle you are carrying, the speed of that thing in drift and transitioning, and that engine in the corvette is still relatively mild.
I would also like to suggest header wrap. I had to do it on my LS. The headers will make everything in the engine bay hot instantly its insane how much heat they put off because the tubing walls are so thin lol.
Good call man! We are actually going to try that
@@driftgames_life Awesome glad I could help you out a little. Keep up the great content! I've been hitting the sim trying to learn how to drift because it looks like so much fun...most of the time lol.
Wow two amazing builds ! How did you solve the issue with the BC coil overs lower mount bushing angle with the FDF LCA?
It's still an issue unfortunately
Sweet lads
Amazing driving..
Thank you 👍
S197 Mustang all the way, more hp and it never broke a sweat. Get better rails and itll feel just as agile as the corvette did.
The mustang gets down. (Commenting as I’m watching)
The Corvette defo looks like it's a hand full but looks faster and sounds savage.keep getting the laps in you'll have that car mastered in no time.
Have you noticed how much the Mustang seat wobbles around ? Love the Corvette BTW
Awesome! I don't know if this will help you but I'll put it here just in case you Dave want to try new things:
1- Driving-wise, you are slowing down/stopping the transition momentum using the handbrake before/during the transition making it feel unstable. You should try to handbrake or slow down after the transition is done, you will be a lot more fluent like that.
2- Setup-Wise (I'm not sure about that specific platform): A little bit of toe out in the front will make the car a lot less snappy, also lower Rebound/Compression values in the front suspension will make it feel a little bit more settled on the ground.
Great advice man! We are trying to make those changes for the next test session
@@driftgames_life Can't wait for the next episode! I forgot to add a few things that may help dialing in your setup: Once you have your base Rebound/Bump values set to suit the car, you can play with each of them independently to fine tune the behavior of the car.
-Adding Bump damper in the front: Car tends to understeer.
-Adding Rebound damper in the front: Car tends to oversteer.
-Adding Rebound in the rear: Will help you to find a lot more grip on throttle. Rebound damper "stops" the forces that push the wheel from the bottom through the wheel arch or looking it in another way, it helps to push the wheel to the ground generating a lot more grip. You only will lose grip by adding rebound (too much) in the rear when you go past through your tires limits or make the car feel a little bit difficult to drive due to the suspensions not taking the imperfections on the road as they should be.
-Adding Bump in the rear: Can help to make all the grip you found driveable but if the value exceed the weight the chassis is putting in to the wheels you'll start to lose some grip because the rear suspensions are dampening the forces that the tires should receive to be pushed to the ground.
Finally, if you want the steering wheel to be more predictable while drifting, try to reduce how the front suspension is affected by the pitch (shift in your vehicle's weight forwards or backwards) you get when it change from braking/Accel or from On/Off throttle.
Missed you lads at bdc last weekend
We missed it too 😞
Dave you look very comfortable in both cars. On the onboard camera you can't feel the speed , looks very chilled. I think when you find the right setup for the Corvette you're self will find it difficult to decide what's best. Corvette HP needs to be in the 750+HP. Once Again Great Video Content . I like the Mustang.
I’m still learning both and they aren’t exactly conventional like a Nissan or BMW, but we will get there
I'm sure you will get there. Seat Time Seat Time Seat Time. Eat Sleep Rave Repeat. Reflexes Training.
Same For Josh (When it's a Running Car). ;-(
Corvette as primary car, it's such a beaut and you loom more comfortable in it, mustang great backup car.
I like both but LOVE the Corvette.
I cant wait to make the rc version of that corvette drive just as insane as the real thing
You're not that scale JP fella are ye
Dave you looked like you were applying no power when on the handbrake to keep revs up and then gave out when it bogged! Go back and look at the video of james deane driven it.👍
I said to Josh at Teesside, wait until he tries the MX with Zestino's... It will be a game changer for him. How were they on the corvette vs. triace?
Much better for side bite, little worse for forward bite
That mustang seat seems so loose😳
Oooh early video!!
Rtr all day, comp car that should be c6 is cool very nice build but mustang was off a king think about that
Ask Matt Field what he does for cooling on his Pro car, I know on his demo car he swears by the stock ducting that channels air into the radiator
Im a big fan Dave but less handbrake, more speed and commit.
On sound alone, the Mustang sounds great on the limiter!
I love both cars. The mustang is just a big happy labrador that just wants to have fun. The vette should be on the front line doing battle. It's where it belongs 👍
When you spent that much money on a car you have to make the most out of it, get loads of seat-time in the c6, dial it in, feel comfortable in it. You will win events eventually.
The gearing is kinda crazy, if 2nd was brought out more and 3rd gear was closer cause it sounds bogged down in 3rd, really nice cars tho 👌👍
We were waiting on some gears for the Winters differential so you are correct
@@driftgames_life ya it certainly looks like it has more than enough power to bring those gears out a bit but ya those cars are crazy guys, what ye guys do to cars and how they come together is just mind blowing ye guys are awesome!! After becoming a a big fan 👍
i think mustang be perfect drift event
Every time I saw the red 350z... There's Mikey!! Yo Mikey throw the scan laaad 😂 but in all seriousness would ye not stick an aul bottle of NOS in for the craic and see what happens 🤷♂️
daves belts look very loose in mustang??
Why didnt you guys compete at the weekend?
We were working at Drift Masters in Austria
Round 2 bdc?
Big fan of the mustang tbh
The Mustang looks so smooth and controllable, plus all that Coyote power on tap. Its fast, it needs a hair of suspension adjustment, a few issues sorted and a new seat rail of course :D I personally think you drive it better. Once you get comfortable with it, i could see you being just as aggressive with it as the C6.
Put a livery on precision printed graphics thats we can buy.. please make it cheap 20 percent off like
Awwww ladsss..who just stuck the gear indicator onto the dash..that was rash in a clean new build..🙈
The mustang could have done with just a quick change rear end and be sweet in addition to the suspension changes. Looks like it is easier to drive as well. On the other hand, given the C6 is the comp car, you should forget that there is a handbrake in it during the practice days, might help you improve faster.
Check out Matt Field’s onboards. The car pivots super quick so the handbrake dabs are just to slow the angle really
Go down a gear ratio in the rear end of the corvette to be able to use 3rd gear and and keep the rpm up at the same time
We are waiting on some other ratios to land for the quick-change. We only got one set with the original diff. It will make it a lot better
Can't understand why, why ? Do they compare these 2.
Corvette must be more comfortable to drive the seat in the mustang looks to be shifting with around when your moving your body. Corvette seat looks planted nd solid.
Add some zip ties to that seat lol.
Corvette all day!!!
Joshes mx5 is my fav of only the fucking thing would work
but does dave know how to transition without using the handbrake?
Yes, but it’s more of a slow the car down thing in Mondello
a C6 overheating? You don't say... They cook themselves stock. Can you run rear mounts in BDC?
Rear mount would also make it faster and less snappy
Why no BDC last weekend?
We were working at DMEC in Austria and they clashed unfortunately
I think the starlet is the leader in this one
Kinda looks like Dave can do more on a solo run in the Corvette but has a bit more confidence placing the Mustang? Seat time has got to be the biggest factor to play on now though
For sure, they aren’t conventional so need a bit of time to get used to
Make the corvette taillights with Chevy jocker skull 💀 i mean wrapping it
Maybe Drift Games has the best problem in choosing in two different monster in the drift world
Corvette 100% Dave you seem more comfortable in it
The vette needs a good amount of heat management
Seems like a silly question.. like would you rather have a rental car chassis to try to do race car things or would you rather have a race car chassis to do race car things 🤷♀️
Corvette for the W
Corvette all day
That seat is barely bolted in. If that’s solid I’m sure you’ll be able to drive it much better cos you’ll feel more secure and safe.
The rail was bending and we def need to fix that. I guess 10 years of drifting have worn it out 😆
900bhp not enough for 3rd? 😂 shall we go back to when James Deane had a go 😉
The car has 10 times the grip now with the entire suspension changed, and a lot less psi than when James drove it, on a slower layout
*Long explanation*
Hmmm~ Honestly looking at both. I'd argue the Mustang is the better "Overall" of the two cars. Both cars seem to have their own individual issues. Mustang seems HEAPS better than before. But it still has some weight to it... which I'm sure can shave a bit more off in some places by doing some things. Or going full modern FD mustang and chopping a bit more off the front and rear could take some weight off as well. Dunno if that would be possible.
The Vette on the other hand... lighter in weight and snappy. But the Vette honestly seems like it needs more power for what it is and is more of a handful. It has the grip... but it def needs a bit more. Not saying it needs crazy numbers but... Maybe even some nitrous to get the torque up some more to keep it from bogging so hard in lower RPM's. Since it seems like it really wants to grip up and drive down in a lot of places. Even during the competition it almost seemed like it was running out of juice at times as it is. Definitely needs some good Vented hoods and some heat shielding and something to cover up that trans tunnel.
Overall though I know your still growing as a driver but the biggest thing I think is holding you back is just some commitment. Just watching the in car footage I can tell your really still coming to grips because you hover the hand brake a lot. Like... reliant so in a way. Which is kinda a bad habit in the long term. Obviously I'm just a guy on the internet who's never "Drifted" a real car a day in his life. So I can't speak from experience sadly. :(
But from what I can see in some places your basically dragging the hand brake to help rotate the car. Instead of rotating the car first then using the hand brake to slow and set the car down.
6:25 going into the hairpin for example. And again especially at 19:53 even in the Corvette. Normally most would transition first then tap the hand brake (And foot brake together sometimes.) to settle the car. Usually blipping the throttle while on the hand brake to keep the revs up. Then kicking the clutch the light the rear up and then control the rest of the drift with the throttle from there.
It'd rotate the car faster and it'd keep more speed up as well as keeping the RPM's up so the car doesn't bog down and lets you flow better through the course. Again I know, Easier said than done... as its a big commitment factor. But I feel thats the biggest step to really getting a handle on these cars...
Though I feel there miiight be a bit of Bias to the Corvette as you did say it was your dream car to build. And of course we all enjoy driving the things we desire most. Not that the mustang is bad... but... hey... If I have two equal cars... and I like one more than the other. I would drive the one I slightly like more. xD
So overall... Mustang I feel could be the better car in terms of being "Easier" to drive. But as I say with all things... go with what ya love more. Because you'll adapt faster in something you enjoy driving more. And you'll have more fun doing it.. The most successful drivers have a formula and stick to it.
Dean, Piotr, Mad Mike, Andy Gray, Gaz Whiter, Forsberg.... they all have a "Car" or a "Type" of chassis, engine and drivetrain they like. And they stick with it so not much changes and they can be consistent. So whatever you choose... I say pick one car.. and then just stick with it for a year or two no matter what unless something forces you out of it. The more time you have in it, the more you work on it. The more you'll understand it and the easier it'll be to drive. Don't break the formula once you got it unless there's no choice. If you can get someone who's competed or driven high level cars like this more to ride along in either car and give you tips... do it~ Any and all help going forward is going to be massive for your growth.
Loving the content as always and sorry for rambling. Its 6:33 A.M and its hard to explain what I mean through typing. lol Good luck on whatever you choose but personally I say... stay in touch with Vaughn or JTP and build the Mustang up more and drive it hard, fast and like your trying to murder it. Its a mustang it can take a beating or some hits....... just don't hit the crowds. xD
Though if you pick the Vette.... Nitrous, Vented hood, covers for the trans tunnel and channeling your inner Dirk Stratton or Matt Field. lol I.E Give no fk's, huck it and abuse it.
Great advice and absolutely spot on dude. I think the lack of commitment comes from not wanting to bin it so soon, but it’s coming!
@@driftgames_life It always happens eventually. Notice many tend to drive their cars harder after they finally just get it out the way. hahah~ Still if all else fails can always have Chelsea or Vaughn or even Field come over and drive the Vette and Mustang for a round somewhere. xD That'd be dope.
They both look incredibly difficult to drive. Saying that you looked more at home with the Mustang. As for not enough power for 3rd gear, there's a peddle by your left foot that you can kick and it'll help 😂
It’s not a power thing, it’s a wheel speed thing. The ratio is a 3.6 in a 5 speed box so third gear is very long. The clutch can’t raise the wheel speed enough unless your travelling 70mph+ We have dialled a lot more grip in since James drove it and that particular layout is a bit slower. It works when you shift up and down though
Guessing you like the zestinos lol
To be honest and not trying to piss on your cornflakes, mustang look 10 times better
my opinion. if the mustang are solid axle its not the best comparaison. s197 are not all IRS but s550 yes they are.
Sheesh
The seat in the Corvette seems alot more stable than the mustang
there is a reason VON and Denofa. drive wha tf they drive and dominate
Comparing the S197 vs the modern mustang is like comparing the AE86 to the GT86, but we get your point dude
Rescuer the seat in the mustang and you’ll probably like it even more, you were moving all over.
Corvette is just a corvette put a super charger on it and you’ll like it even more then the mustang
Which goes through more engines in a season Corvette or Mustang? I bet its mustang that kills at least 3 engines over a season
As good as the vet is it still looks a little understeery compared to the stang. Wonder if changing the front tyres to match the rear would help make it a little less snappy and less understeery
That's a misconception, you need higher treadwear tires in the front, small width than the rear and grippier in the rear than the front. Also, running 0 ackerman sucks on the Vette, that makes it only good for max angle WOT drifts running slow line of the track, needs more positive ackerman to drift like a S chassis can He's understeery because he's going to slow and not throwing the weight around and relying on too much ebrake to initiate drifts and slowing down too much
The corvette looks more nimble and better at handling
I want to see James Dean drive the corvette
Corvette
Quote of the day "engines are expensive"
Obvious but true 😂
There are some serious clunking noises in the c6 sounds like its going to snap something expensive
It’s the anti-lag limiter making all those noises
Seat looks a bit loose in the mustang 😳 🤔
PUT THE FORD POWERPLANT IN THE VETTE
I'm pretty sure it won't fit. that Ford engine is huge, and the vette engine sits between the frame rails, even the balancer is below the steering rack. the Ford head is very wide being a 4 valve.
Lads whats going on with the seat in the mustang 😂 is it even bolted in at all 3:30
The rail has seen better days, Wayne is on it as we speak lol
@@driftgames_life thank god 👌
please use less handbrake lol
vette
The seat in the mustang looks like it's super loose
It’s the rail bending, it’s time for a new one!
pizza or lasagna?
Third doesn’t have enough power 890hp 🤦♂️
It’s not power, it’s ratio. Car can do over 100mph wheel speed in 2nd with the 3.6 ratio. It’s not ideal for Mondello
I guarantee you that it has enough power to smoke 3rd at that track even with the 3.6 final drive, but the wheel speed will be ridiculous for such a slow track. Plus, because of the powerband it probably requires a lot of clutch work to break traction but not have excessive wheel speed. At that point, it’s better to just run 2nd gear and use steady throttle.
Full carbon fiber forgets about steel roof😅😂
It’s magnesium, already super light
Yeah the magnesium weighs as much as carbon fibre so seemed silly to swap it. Dave hasn’t drifted with the roof on yet either 😂
Needs a new seat for the mustang you where all over the place
It’s on the list 😂