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Incredible video guys. I have been struggling with my damn backswing for 30 yrs and "keep the arms between the shoulders" is the most enlightening thing I have come across. Thank you!
You guys solve more mysteries than Scooby Doo and Shaggy.
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These guys have their own "scoobie" ! I love it!
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Iâm just waiting for Mike to take off his face mask and heâs Paige Spiranicđ
Spiranac..my bad
Guys thank you! Im a scratch player who has been struggling recently as I dont hit near as many balls as I once did. My hands have always appeared good on camera in rehersal swings but as Ive learnt from this video, far too deep in actual motion. I coud achieve the look on 2d camera but there obviously was no turn there. As a result I felt I lost distance. All making sense now. In the past I had a better turn albeit my hands were too deep, and often longer arm swing. I presume to become a decent ball striker I must have rerouted the hands off the chest on the way down to compensate. Getting to this vanilla spotnow dynamically I know will be a huge help. I feel it also encourages a shorter arm swing. So helpful for over swingers and across the line people. This is by far one of the best instuctional videos I have seen for better players, I think its a common fault from time to time even amongst elite amateurs. thanks again!
I think you're exactly right, SJW. We've been using this info no for awhile in our in-person lessons and it's connected a lot of dots for a lot of golfers. I wish we could say this is something we've known all along, but it's not. There was just no way to pick up on it with video.
I love this video, its cleared a lot of rubbish from my head regarding the backswing. I love the drills using a club but i'd love to see this level of detail with the driver as opposed to an iron. Thanks
Wow, Iâve always tried to bring my left arm so far over. This is a revelation. After watching this at 12:30 at night I had to spring out of bed and try a few swings in the garage. Love you videos. You guys do such a great job. Love it!!
For many years my misconception about this move caused many problems in my backswing. Iâm a big guy who works out regularly, and I thought that my chest size had something to do with why I was not getting in a proper top of the backswing position. I was pulling my left arm across my body which caused pain in my left shoulder. When I learned that the arms for the most part move vertically and that the depth is created from rotation, it changed everything. This video explained that so very well. Wish I had come across it sooner.
You guys are the best I have seen on the web. Gifted at communication of fundamentals of golf.
Thanks for this. Useful. I especially like that your suggestions and analysis are based on actual data - presumably using gears- and also find useful the specific simple drills, feels, swing thoughts. Perhaps from time to time when you do these keep in mind any adjustments a senior has to make - being in my mid 60s and though fit and a 12 handicap not as flexible as I used to once be. After scanning and looking carefully at over 1000 you tube golf sites across the world, there are only a handful that I rate highly, follow and regularly recommend to others including to golf course pros etc.
That's a great point. We basically do everything with an eye towards the aging golfer (because we're all either there or going to be there, lol). This video is a good example from the perspective of this info in our in-person lessons has been a huge benefit to older golfers losing some of the mobility they once had.
Great video guys, I have been struggling with this for a very long time, I have been a where, but just could not figure out the correct way to get the club up on plane..
great video ! . thank you for the lesson today with the left arm elevation and right elbow at 90. thank you both. if possible, can you make a video the whole process of the swing would be great. Thanks in advance.
Youâve just summed up 90% of the people I see.
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Great video. Love the approach you take when explaining the swing. âłïž
really good lesson. thanks guys! I've actually been working on a "no backswing" backswing where I set the club at the top kind of like a baseball swing just because I've always had such a tendency to go way inside. It's definitely a work in progress not to mention people think I'm challenged :)
Brilliant video, followed your advice and added a club length or more to every club, and ball striking was so pure, thanks a million!!!
Love it, Peter, that's awesome - great job!
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I have watched a ton of golf videos and this is the AHA moment video for me. Itâs amazing how easy the golf swing is when your lead arm is t pinned against your chest. Awesome explanation! Awesome video!
Amazing revelation here! You guys are absolutely right about this left arm. Thanks so much!
Glad you enjoyed it, Daniel. Thanks for watching!
Got this point about keeping the arms and hand in front of the body a while ago from another source. However, your explanation and drills made it really clear and much easier to get into and feel the proper positions. Really promotes a balanced fluid feeling in the back swing and down swing.
Awesome, glad it helped connect the dotsđ
Love your stuff... I'm the owner / instructor here at The Meadows Golf Center here in the Catskills and your video representations are so valuable... Thank You!
That's awesome bud thank you for sharing that!
great content; as always. thanks!
Great information guys , way ahead of the crowd. Thanks .
Thanks . Agree excellent video very clearly explained.
Watched this earlier and it really helped me hitting my fade shots ,Iâm a 1 handicapper and this was one of me issues, The drill t to get my arms in position then turned is a real winner for me ,,Thank you gents .
Great video guys explaining the need to rotate torso as the left arm moves club away...
Guys this topic in this video is exactly what I struggled with,hence I never felt in a ready or athletic position for the downswing. Thanks for clearing up my misconceptions.
Is it possible that you can talk about the the uncocking of the wrist in the downswing. Does the correct uncocking of the wrist add power in the downswing?
One of the best info, period! Thanks fellas.
Awesome glad you like it bud!đ
...most overlooked of all things golf..and all things in your videos. The title of "depth" was misleading to me as i was always so far inside and underneath. I was like "no way i need to watch this one..i need less depth!"...this is SUCH a game changer. The turning away from the left arm and leaving slack?..oh man..once i realized that gives the room to pivot and the arms can go DOWN uninhibited BY the pivot. ..it changes the "at what time" things occur in the swing. Ive been doing this all wrong for 25 years. Don't judge a video by its title.. wow.. Thank you. This is the best one imho... diamond in the rough.
Awesome! Weâre glad it helpedđđ
This video has really helped - thank you! got into a bad habit pulling my left arm way inside always with the inevitable collapse into body from some lessons a number of years back. The drills work!
great!!! Let us know how it goes!
Good work guys, this topic always seems to get overlooked. I find keeping the club outside the hand on the takeaway gets me in the best position at the top. good players keep right arm bend to a minimal by P3 with good rotation.
Yep, we cringe when we hear someone say the backswing isn't importantđŹ
The awesomeness of these gentlemen is their ability to keep things straight ahead ( no Flexions here!) and to find simple drills where positions are hit organicallyđđ
Thanks! We certainly try to do that as best we know howđ
Yâall explain things so well. Going on this concept, how can this be addressed with the driver? How is it different? How does it effect distance? Is there any driver specific drills for this.
Outstanding! Thank you again. Cheers
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Ok as a Civil Engineer who struggles at golf, especially the backswing, this helped a lot. Maintaining the angle between the chest and the left arm is a great swing thought for me. Additionally turning into the left arm in the downswing was great too. Feels good. Canât wait to try on the range. Love your videos.
Your videos are a mountain of great information. Thank you. One irrelevant quiddity if I may, Mike; at around the 13:39 mark you say at the top you want the right elbow folding at 90 degrees or 'less' when I think you mean 'more'.
The Left arm adduction, and your previous video on that....have been an important learning moment for me..
I can now see as the adduction angle is kept on the way back, the swing plane in honored...
AND, as the adduction angle is narrowed on the downswing, the golfer gets the club to shallow and that lag occurs.
That is the big takeaway for me....
thanks guys... .great flag!
Awesome, Historicus, glad it helped connect the dots!
Would you be so kind as to describe what you see as to what would be a typical amount of left arm adduction at impact?
And relatedly does maximum adduction happen before impact, at impact or post impact?
Go to 9.47 and 13.22 min in video and that is the total concept for the back swing. Perfect analagy! If I don't do this and start the club too inside I get off center toe hits.. which really sux!
Great video! Thanks guys.
Thanks for your videos! You demonstrate what the arms and wrists do independent of the body. And then show how when the body rotation is added you are at the top of a good backswing. Question: what does the golfer lose by getting to the top of the backswing that way vs. the "blended" motion we think of as the normal golf swing?
Those motions should definitely be blended. It just helps to break them down independently to see the full range and timing of the movements - but yes, they should be blended in the normal motion of the backswingđ
Great insights for lead armâŠhow about some detail for the trail arm. Thank you. Fine video.
Excellent. Thanks for posting.
Thanks for watching!
Just a fantastic video. Thanks very much.
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Awesome content again guys. Thanks.
Thanks bud!
This is the most helpful video Iâve ever seen. Thanks yall
Awesome video and a very mis understood part of the swing. And I have people on my lesson tee every day trying to get the lead arm more across the chest and nothing good comes from it
Another great video! I am a member of the unbelievable affordable All-Access. Anyone who isn't a member is missing out on the best golf information and drills available.
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Very nice. Iâve been wondering if it would be good to hit balls doing the second drill. Iâve continued to struggle with run off and a little laid off at left arm parallel. Think this would be a good drill for me? When hitting balls this way, do you do the pressure shift after lifting the arms into position and before turning back? Thanks guys
What do you think about a backswing drill with a balloon between your elbows or forearms? How about hitting half shots with the balloon? I've never seen this online but thought it may help keep arms in front of chest and stop excessive flipping or rotation of forearms in backswing and throughswing.
These videos are great. And Shaun is the absolute best at mimicking bad golf swings!
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Where is the floaties? Lol Great stuff as always! Is the follow through similar to the backswing? As far as how the arms move more up and down vs across the chest?
Iâm definitely guilty of pulling back too close to my chest, makes my head roll forward and takes backwards & off the ball. Hoping this helps, watched this a couple times, maybe you can clear it up. Heard some different number but what is ideal or what are the pros hitting for an angle? Thought I heard 20 but then also mentioned. What angle should I aim for, 45 degrees ???
Very practical and useful advice!
Thanks for watching!
Well..I'm off to the range again lol.... lift arms , turn body. Repeat x 1000
This help a great deal. I'm quite muscular and couldn't seem to keep my left arm straight while pinning it to my chest. I'll try filming from above to see if I'm close
Great video. But are some world class players an exception? For example, Calvin Peete appears to take the club back low and deep. Am I seeing this correctly? Thanks.
In a previous video you showed there is about 30 inches of arm lift in a proper back swing, which is more than just a right elbow bend. My question is where does the extra lift come from, right arm, left arm or both arms raising the club at the same time?
A question: How many degrees of total left-arm adduction in the backswing is accounted for by the amount of left arm adduction at address? I understand that it may vary from player to player and club to club, but I'm curious to know how much of the adduction angle at left arm parallel was preset at the address position. Thanks.
I can't believe I just found this video, so much information!
Hi, Thanks great video. Would be great to see a video about hip movement and impact position. I have a friend where all rotation comes from navel area. Resulting in flipping, shaking, high ball flight. It does t seem to click with him that the whole lower body needs to do when the swing is started.
Thx guys . I have find the instruction very helpful
It cleared up a lot of misconceptions.
Great job of creating positions with motion.
What is the level of tension/relaxation in arms/wrists/shoulder sockets as you go through the swing? For instance, if I let them be really loose and just reacting to the body turn, does physics take over (pendulum physics like in a medieval trebuchet rock launcher), or have a lot of tension, or shift from lotta tension to lotta relaxation, or vice versa? What's the right pattern? How can I learn to feel it?
Best comment was what Freddie Couples does (I'd kill to have Fred's swing). His arm goes outside the line to start the backswing, increasing the angle of arm-to-chest. Great tips guys đđ»
Nice!
I keep coming back to this one! Question: based on your observations and measurements do the top guys have any torso rotation at address? Similar to how their torsos are rotated open at impact though their shoulders are square. I find that if I set a little torso turn at address Iâm able to keep the lead arm from adducting too much.
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Excellent video on the backswing guys!
Thanks Jeffđ
An excellent discussion. Had a lesson a few yrs ago from a pro who told me to get my hands deeper by pinning the left arm to my chest. Iâm a 1 to 2 Hcp player but have been struggling with little push cuts for years. Do you think the deep hands stuff could be causing that? I just checked my left arm position. At left arm parallel Iâm probably 25-30 deg in. I do tend to lift and get crossed from here. This might be my problem solved. Tx.
Yessir! That's a death move for golfer that we see every week. Don't know if you've seen this yet, but I think it will put in perspective what great players actually do regarding arm depth: instagram.com/p/B16Za6GFECw/
Agree its the chest/shoulder blades area that rotates Fractionally before the arms move. Its all about sequencing!For me this area Feels like it rotates flat but isnt when I look in mirror. Also Rotation doesnt start from the ball, the body is a barrel/tube this is hard to describe! but very important!
With the left arm arcing in on takeaway, what is the right arm doing? I have a problem straightening the left Goin back. My wife took pics of me at the range and my backswing looks to narrow or more straight up. Also heard to keep the right arm less bent allowing the left to get more straight Goin back.
Nick price drill changed my game loving it.
Wow, this makes so much sense. I get too deep and wrap around my body too far. I am đŻ % taking all this to my practice.
Great video as allways guys. For me it feels like my arms are outside or parallell to the chest in the backswing.
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What vid do you demo the "Kenny Perry" backswing drill? Love your site! Thx.
Hi, could you please make it more complicated, I watch your great lessons and think I've mastered it because you make it look so easy, and then I try it out,,,,,,, it is so hard,,,, on a serious note, best lessons and advice on CZcams., keep them coming.
Great video guys. Your thoughts on having the feeling that I get my left arm level with right shoulder.
That's a great place to play fromđ
For me, just imagining a big plane of glass helps me get to these "positions". Thanks for the great video!
You guys are amazing, thank you for the vids
Thank you for watching!
Great explanation and drills
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Another awesome video. I love how you guys delve into the details. I had never thought much at all about the angle between the arm and the chest. And I would have never guessed it stayed so static. Thanks guys.
Thanks for checking it out, Robđ
great video!
Best left arm instruction!!
Your drills are ultimate KISS method for under standing the golf swing.
Coming back to this video, as made good strides with hip and pelvis motion, but still closing that gap between my arms and my chest. The magic words here are "it's a chest rotation to finish the backswing". Thinking that keeps my arms in good position, and better shoulder tilts, turning more up instead of flat and pulling my arms round behind me. BOOM. thanks.
So is there any problem with a early hinge and turn instead of that one piece take away everyone sells the early hinge feels much better. Thx
Really helpful ref points - Iâve spent 20 years going to far back!
Benderâs head just exploded, love THIS!!! Had myself trapped down that rabbit hole all winter
YikesđŹthat's a rabbit hole I wouldn't wish on anyone!
Hey guys love your stuff! I would like to see some videos about putting with the gears stuff. Thanks
We should be able to make that happen for you, Ben. Anything specifically you'd like to see about putting from GEARS?
Athletic Motion Golf Where the pivot point is in a good putting stroke. Is it between the shoulders, lower down, left or right. If that makes sense đââïž
@@Melted_Butter That's not really something GEARS would be able to tell us. It will track the center of the ribcage and the pelvis and the force plates will track the pressure... There is (should be) very little movement in any of those during the stroke.
How much is there? I guess ball position and weight distribution. How about side bend in long putts, does that happen?
@@benrausch404 just a couple % points
Know I'm late to the party. In regards to the Nick Price drill. If after you "swung" the left arm under the right arm then moved the right arm under the left arm so that the wrist were touching then went to the top of the backswing would that put you in a correct position at the top of the swing?
Suggestion: use a drone shot from just above the golfers head to illustrate the body/arm/club relationships during the swing phases.
Great video explaining a huge myth! Do you feel that the left arm pinning across the chest is what causes the right arm to get deep
? Or does the right arm get deep independently?
Kevin McLaughlin have seen it both ways. This is where the golferâs intent comes into play.
I always had my hand cover my right bicep at arm parallel. You're saying it's optimal to have my hand more in front of my body - hands cover my right shoulder?
The more I watch you talk about the golf swing the more I realize that the meat is in the takeaway! These backswing videos have helped me change some really bad concepts about swinging the club. I need to make this stuff part of my instinct. Thanks again, guys.
You guys are the best at unraveling the deep dark mysteries of golf!
I have been handicapped by the rigidity of left arm connection and the one piece takeaway- this video offers me hope that I might actually get some swing in my golf swing. In demonstrating theft arm only swing, you seem to use a fair amount of hand and wrist to swing the club to left arm parallel- none of this connected triangle. It seems very fluid and free rather than tightly connected. Am I interpreting this correctly?
You're interpreting it perfectly, Leonardđ
As always, love what you fellas are doing. Quick question/ clarification - the move that you are describing is fairly close to the ASI (Arm Swing Illusion) concept, correct? I bumped into this idea after watching Rory tee off at the BMW a couple of years ago when I was inside the ropes and standing at about a 45 degree angle between Face On and DTL and 5 yds behind him. I saw something that blew my mind in that it appeared as though he was lifting the club towards his right shoulder while rotating. I've messed with this concept quite a bit, but seem to get a little steep coming into impact every now and then (always at the absolute worst time!!!) I have grown to trust you guys on swing mechanics and could use the affirmation that I'm not crazy, or just that I am looking at it all wrong and am indeed nuts!!! LOL
Cheers
Wow! I've been golfing for 25 years and never correctly understand this concept. May I help you simplify further, or please correct me if I am still wrong: Shoulders and hands form a firm triangle structure, lifting right hand 90 degrees while maintaining straight left arm will automatically reposition the triangle into new firm geometry and that is the perfect slotted position (once accompanied by hip+shoulder turn)
Awesome video guys. A couple of aha moments in this one
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FUTURE TOPIC (or you probably already have it) Raising head in backswing. I raise mine after my left arm reaches parallel, not before. I'm working hard on reducing it and having some success, which I check by video. Reduced from 6" to 2". But that's just on the range. On the course it still seems to be an issue. So, what's the best drill for this new motor skill (I can do it perfectly in slow motion)? I was thinking of mounting a board with some tacks in it above my head. The power of external obstacles. AND how do you learn ANY new motor skill. This would be a good topic to discuss the AMG way -- methods, timelines, protocols, etc.
Great idea, I don't think we've done one yetđ
I have a horrible habit of taking the club back to far outside the ball line then I lay the club off at the top. The swing is way too steep as well. I know some pros have laid the club off at the top, Jon Rahm comes to mind, but obviously they have freakish talent. Would your recommend fixing the issue of being laid off at the top?
Love your videos guys. Iâm totally sold on the lead arm depth philosophy but Iâm wondering what kind of arm depth Rory would have? Watching 2D videos of him, especially with driver it does look like his lead arm gets pretty darn deep. But maybe he doesnât and itâs an optical illusion? Would love to hear your thoughts on this aspect of Roryâs swing. Thanks!
You have to keep in mind that the LOOK of depth, when done correctly at least, is dependent on the player's shoulder turn. Gauging shoulder turn is practically impossible from DTL, so right away you're more often looking at an illusion than not. Rory for example (we know his data) turns his shoulders in the 130-135 range. Not many can do that. But his hands are still in front of his trail shoulder when looking from above (the best angle to see the real arm depth from). Another multiple winner we have turns his shoulders 80 degrees and LOOKS like he has very little depth, but in reality, has the same depth (hands opposite the trail shoulder) as Rory. That make sense?
Athletic Motion Golf Thanks for your reply guys. Wow I didnât realize Rory has that much shoulder turn. That totally explains his deep look with the lead arm. Keep up the great work guys, I love your videos.