Is Getting A Honda S2000 Really Worth It?
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The 2007 S2K in my garage says, "Yes, definitely worth it."
Simple Answer: Hell Yeah.
I came here to say exactly this.
@@pvogel Ditto!!👍🏾
I said the same thing “HELL YEAHH” but then I bought a BMW M3 instead lmao😂 these car are going as much as a 2020 WRX STI or a BMW M3
I like these type of videos 👍 keep em coming
Love to see someone taking good care of their car like you my man. Hope you enjoy her for many more years to come.
2003 curb was 2840, 240 hp, 162 lb/ft. CR had the same power output as other AP2s. The significant mechanical differences is some weight loss (softtop delete), stiffener for the steering rack (quicker ratio too), 6 point brace under the tonneau, and the suspension rates.
isn't the steering ratio the same as AP1's, as well as both sway bars thickness? Like they sort of combined the best of both versions (from a track car perspective) to make the CR?
@@kalmtraveler no the CR has different bars and the overall balance leans more towards understeer. The ratio of the racks is the same.
@@fokker1138 ah thanks! I had to dig up the old s2ki thread and you're absolutely right. What I was confused about is that the 00-01 AP1 front bar is almost identical to the CR front bar in size and spring rate. Either way I have an 03 so I may want to swap them around regardless.
Good video, honest take on the car too.
Great video!
Nice video. I borrowed your license plate idea for here in California! Except mine will say 8k (ap2).
Great video. I'm really contemplating picking up an ap2 s2000. I'm coming off owning 2 evos a 8 and currently a 10. I understand I'm trading off power and handling is exceptionally good. But I always loved the smaller high reving sportier look.
I personally like the S2000 more, evo is a great car but is for sure less reliable than the S2000. 4 door is nice, but I have never had a use for them so I prefer the coupe life personally haha. Both are great cars though!
@@ChrisSadowski thanks for the opinion I really dig the s2000 just hard to find a good one with low miles under 25k
S2k is always worth it. They are beautiful cars and drive fantastic! I daily drive mine and once a year i go on roadtrips. It can suck on long drives.. only because my ass and legs get tired. I heard the trunk can hold golf clubs, so its good enough lol
great find, let us know when you need parts!!
Will do!
S2000 makes a fun Auto cross and track car not gonna lie
Bananas at the end
I have a 2004 s2000 with 75k Miles. I love it
Love my 00 all stock😎🤙
nice car, you got a great deal. I have a year 2000, mint, great condition, paid $28,000 for it in 2022, with 41,000 miles (now 42,000). You got a good deal. These cars are excellent. Imagine an Italian sports car that actually runs.
Cocaine storage lol dude I laughed so hard when I heard you say that.. and I agree a lot with the things you are saying, I had a lifted f150 but Iwas not into it, so I sold it and bought me an ap1 like 10 months ago.. I knew what I was getting into, I always drive by myself, it’s so fun and very bullet proof.. I bought mine with 92k miles it’s now on 111k because I did a huge trip to Mexico and back to Colorado.. everything went smooth and it was real comfortable, my mother went with me all around Mexico around 5k miles and she said it was real comfy... I don’t regret my purchase, it is very fun, rare and quite fast when you go to the canyons, and you get into the groove.. I saved for along time but 100% perfect for me, I drive it so much lol feel like putting my top down and going right now, great vid man
Thanks man, I’ll actually be in Colorado this weekend with mine at the pikes peak raceway for an event!
@@ChrisSadowski you got a lap day going on? im like 1 1/2 hours away from that track. i am soon to go to this track around here called deer trail but im going to buy some tires and alignment first.
It’s a big track day car meet type thing. They have drift, drag and road course and a car show going on. I might get a few laps in. Not too sure as it’s a 12 hour drive from here in Arizona for me so I may just baby the car and enjoy the event from the stands
@@ChrisSadowski do you have to pay or reserve a spot to be welcome there? and yeah, I feel you you wanna be good on that long trip specially since you have to drive back, honestly i have driven my ap1 non stop for 16 hours and after a nap i drive again and all is well, they are awesome.. you should film this trip and event man would be some great content.
there is an entry fee, not sure how much. Probably like $20
Love my 05 NFR….💯💯
Just hit a year owning mine never getting rid of it
S2K ftw. I'm on my 3rd one. I hope to never get rid of it.
@LAD Teknologies First one I traded for a GTI (which I still daily drive). Second one only because I found a great deal on the 3rd one 😂
@LAD Teknologies Yep..I know it's famous last words but I never plan to get rid of this one. Spa Yellow AP1 😎
Sure bud like your story is real 😂
Just got a 2005 s2k with a little less than 50k miles! Absolutely love the car
How much was it? Usually see those for at least $30,000
@@rabidlorax1650 it was 26k
🍌 Kela 🤣 If the opportunity ever arises, please test drive a Toyota MR2 Spyder (00-07). They are slow but I'd like to know how the steering compares to an S2000. They're both similarly age so it would be interesting to hear your perspective. Ramone where the NSX at bro, not seen it in agesss 😪
Omg that thumbnail 😍😍😍😍😍
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i want one so bad but once i have money in a few years im sure the value will be even more expensive :') bananas
Very nice.
What phone holder is that please? 🙏
Modifry dash bracket with the magnetic phone mount
I’ve always liked the S2000. I’d love to own one someday. What are your thoughts on the BMW Z3?
My girlfriends dad has one, they have torque but the whole chassis as it is, is a total boat anchor. Handles pretty funky, weighs a ton. I didn’t enjoy driving it much
That's a good way to spend 10k.. the price you got it for makes me go banana 🍌🍌🍑🍑
Those motors were quite square. But yeah you definitely can tell there on edge when a hill is what can make the car feel slow. Yeah you can say that about other hondas but it's usually a 1.5. But yeah they are kinda like how the crx is. Great to drive. Great feel. Great driver feedback and input. Needs more space lol. But yeah all around if i could scoop one i would too and add it to my fleet
Weird that there is no glove box in front of the passenger. I never noticed that.
Yeah tripped me out at first lol. But I guess it makes sense, giving the passenger more room
The only thing folks need to know is that 20+ years in, Honda’s rivals are *just* starting to make cars that is as good or better than the S2000.
When this car first came out it had higher specific output than a Ferrari, and pretty much better then every car in the same price point / segment in all objective measure.
The same period Porsche Boxster (986) was heavier, slower, and looks (and aged) far worse is pretty telling.
But seriously if you compare sports car today you can buy for around $30k, the S2k still compares favorably… against new cars with 2 decades of engineering refinement.
That’s how far ahead of its time it was. Peak 90s JDM sports car design. Back when they were basically heads above everything else that’s out there.
Overrated and overpriced? Perhaps. Certainly if you’re just looking for fun performance cars there are MANY cheaper (or better) options out there these days. For the same amount of money that people are asking for a mint AP2 you can get yourself into a 987 Porsche Cayman / Boxster, some older M3s, WRXs, heck even a C6. The S2K is best viewed and enjoy as a period piece, kind of like watching vintage movies. It does deserves a special place in automotive history and for its time, it was a best in class experience. 90s Honda / Acura’s have a certain “feel” that no other car makers (including themselves) were able to replicate since. S2K represents the best and last example of that.
Notification squad!
Sounds like 10k well spent
Absolutely
they be 20k plus
What size wheels are you running there mate
17’s
Was it bananas or banana?!... I can’t remember 😅
I’m on my third s2000 so… ummmm… no comment needed!
Idk I still think 8th gen si’s and rsx type s are the better options with the extra 10k you can build a monster that Cost less but are more tunable and powerful.
And handles like garbage in comparison, needs all that extra money to be close to as fun and still get minimal attention except from Honda die hards.
Those are great but you really can't compare them. The S2000 is a rwd roadster. Those are great cars, but in a completely different category.
Short answer : Yes
Long answer : Yessssssssssssssssssss
Best money I’ve EVER spent when I bought my 02 S2k
fuck yeh it's worth it. I had my s2k for the longest time.
What engine oil cap is that? 2:35
Not sure, I bought it off a buddy. He had a batch of them made
You're s2000 it's gorgeous .take care of it
Thank you man. I plan on it!
@@ChrisSadowski good that makes me relax.
Was that Zelda's lullaby at 1:39?
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@@ChrisSadowski Awesome!
It's sebring silver?
Yes
Yes.
AP1s have a lot of advantages over the AP2s. For example, the AP1 rear diff is stonger and the AP1 has larger diameter oil squirters in the cylinder walls. 9k is a beautiful sound. Springs and retainers will take it to 10k and the loss in torque is not necessarily a bad thing cuz spinning ain't winning. I'd take the AP1 over the AP2 every time IMO. Slap a craftwerks supercharger on that motor and make 500 hp. Bilstien makes great coilovers whenever you need replacements. Great vid, loved it!! Bananas....
AP1 differential is not the stronger diff, but neither are tanks. If you abuse them, they will break. The oil jets are the same part number; what was changed part way through 2002 was the bolts and those are the same part number for all years going forward. There's no benefit to running it north of 9K unless you autox and even then, the gearing/engine speed makes it unnecessary (~65mph at the end of 2nd). Spend some time on the S2Ki forums.
@@fokker1138 Just speaking from experience here. My apologies. The part numbers may be the same now, as Honda changes actual parts with innovation and technology. So parts in 02 are not the same as parts in 21 regardless of the current part number (e.g. J series oil squirters replaced AP1 original squirters). Motors are glorified air compressors. The more RPM you generate, the more HP you produce. So absolutely there are ample gains in springs and retainers (the factory AP1 cam will make power to 10k RPM, obviously a more aggressive cam (e.g. Brian Crower or Skunk2 tuner 2s) will make more power with equal RPM regardless of racing class or genre. Graduated from the S2Ki forums with a bachelor's and posted a few stickies to boot. Thanks for the reccomendation.
Very Respectfully,
KRX_KID
I understand both your points in these comments but this was the perfect hunerous, yet serious response lol. Respectful and civic with both parties being knowledgeable.
I’ll just say I love S2000’s and they are fantastic cars and eat a good amount of oil with little cargo space 😄
@@krx_kid9104 The part numbers have always been the same. The upgrade threads are people changing banjo bolts, not jets. The NA gains aren't worth the effort to wind past 9k not to mention the additional wear and tear.
@@fokker1138 Your input is not only acknowledged, but also appreciated. On behalf of our lord and savior, I wish you a blessed evening.
Blessed be thy name,
KRX_KID
Fuck yeah it is!
Mine is a 2000 with 120k miles on it but I love it
Does yours burn oil also? Every AP1 owner and half the AP2 guys I ask all burn oil like mine haha
@@ChrisSadowski Cant tell you because I got it recently and don’t drive it often but it just feels good to drive from what I’ve experienced so far
Do y’all think a 2001 Honda S2000 worth 22k with 135k miles worth it?? I live in California
No, I would say a good market value on that depending on its maintenance and history would be no more than 14k. The AP1 just does not hold the same value as the later model AP2
MY AP1 is an absolute joy to drive. I prefer it over the BMW M series and even the Porsche 997.1. The S2000 Transmission shifts gloriously and is an absolute blast to drive. The Porsche would beat the S2000 if it didnt cost $30k to rebuild that engine.
Oof I can’t imagine paying the cost of the S2000 and then some to repair the engine of the Porsche 😅
@@ChrisSadowski
Tell me about it! Its the only reason I don’t have a Porsche 911. The 05 to 08 suffer from bore scoring. The second gen 997.2 from 09-12 (less common but still happens). Values were like ~$35k two years ago, but then you have to factor in a rebuild. You’re easily in $60 to $70k.
It’s collectible
😂 you gotta put the code word at the end of the video dude. But bananas, I’d like to grab one and k swap it. Just to preserve the OEM engine. Lol imagine having a 100k mile motor for S2000 in the year 2030. Resell would be ridiculous.
Yeah that would be wild, until the odometer read 3x as much as the engine 😂
@@ChrisSadowski I think he's just talkin about resale of the motor not the whole car. You could pretty much name your price on that block
@@ChrisSadowski lmao you RIGHT! Lol but I think having it documented and stored correctly is the key. I’ll take a 500k mile S2000 with the OEM 110k engine in 2030. 😂 if anything I’d stock up on Ks just to have backups. Good video dude, hope all is well.
That would be dope. If we even have gasoline in 2030 😂
@@ChrisSadowski mannnn TELL ME ABOUT IT! Lol “crisis” hasn’t hit here in Texas yet but knowing the citizens? Won’t be long 😂
Damn... 10k for a Salvage s2k? Prices are getting insane!
They really are. Most good condition, low 100k mile ones with clean titles are going around 20k. Mine is salvage but had just turned 100k when I had gotten it so it’s at least in great shape
@@ChrisSadowski 8 years ago, I passed on a 60k mile 2003 ap1 with oem hardtop, front lip, side strakes, and single owner for 10k. I beat myself to this day for not buying it.
Despite being salvage, you got a good deal. It's about the driving experience. Who cars if it's salvage.
I agree. I also didn’t buy it to sell it so title status doesn’t bother me
@@ChrisSadowski i just bought a rebuilt title yellow ap1 with 101k miles yesterday for 10 k too and it needs new paint, but it drives amazing and dont regret it at all. The rebuilt title just needs from someone cutting the soft top and taking the seats. It came with a a hard too too😊
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Nothing about maintenance?
It’s a Honda, maintenance is simple. Keep oil in it. Only real maintenance things with it are the clutch fluid you should flush every oil change, design flaw with the master cylinder causes it to get super dirty quickly. And the Timing chain tensioner starts to fail around 30-40k miles so you have to rebuild or replace those
Short answer: Yes
Long answer: Yyyyyyeeeeeeessssssssss
🤣🤣 I like it
Bananas 🍌
Amazing car, unless you are over 6’ tall then you’ll hate it after driving for 15 minutes
Thankfully I’m only 5’9 🥸🤣
Depends, I love mine but think it’s a highly overrated and overpriced car. The thing is fun in twists but dangerous bc it oversteers and snaps on you. In order for you to hit any amount of torque, you have to get in high 6’s so from 1500-6k RPMs you are as slow or slower than a civic. The hp # is impressive. A viper per liter has less horsepower than the S2k but it’s not that thrilling. If you want to deal with real power take the $20-$28k some assfuck wants for his ‘02 or ‘04 with 70-200k miles and purchase a Factory Five AC Cobra. Trust me, you’ll have more fun it that than the S2k. This coming from a guy who has an S2k.
I haven’t experienced this oversteer snap sensation yet thankfully, I run mine through the canyons regularly so I think that’s just a big matter of driving style. But you are right about the overhype, it is an awesome car but the internet has overhyped it quite a bit. But I’m sure it’s the same situation with say a non built skyline/FD/S15 etc. But would you say getting the S2000 was worth it? Or would you have rather spent the money elsewhere
@@ChrisSadowski I think its worth it if you are buying the car at a reasonable price. I saw one guy paying 25K with 200K miles. Hey i know it sounds like I am shit talking the S, its an amazing vehicle, and its perfectly balanced.
I have one too and I pretty much agree.
Get a Honda del aol has better gas mileage and in my opinion looks better plus more trunk space
I had a del sol for a couple years. Absolute garbage heap of a car compared to an S2000. Half the power, FWD, loosest/most twisting chassis I’ve ever driven. Love the interior but del sols are super low budget, poor man s2000’s
@ChrisSadowski
Yeah your right thx for letting me know.I’ve been trying get my first car and the del sol, looked good got any suggestions
Honestly I would not bother with the del sol. Mostly because of part availability, targa seals always leak and just how flimsy the chassis is. I would 100% suggest a Miata if you want a roadster. Best car ever for the price
Bananas
You're lucky man I had to drive my friend to the store and I haven't gotten to finish the dang video
AP2 owner. They’re great cars but horrible as a daily driver and not practical. Only recommend if you can afford it to be a total toy.
I’ve been daily driving mine for a year now and it’s been a great daily. Especially if you don’t have kids. Nothing beats leaving work with the top down blasting your music in bliss of vtec roaring
@@ChrisSadowski you must have better roads with fewer potholes than we do here in Boston 😂
Oh yeah Phoenix roads can be rough but nothing like East coast 😅
PEOPLE CANT TURN WONT UNDERSTAND. LOL
Exactly! Haha
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No, no it's not. Sell me yours and I will relieve you of the burden.
Not an s2k fan. Good looking cars but not worth what people are asking for them. So much better out there for the money.
Better is a matter of opinion really. There is faster cars yes, but for what you are getting I think it’s really worth it as a driving enthusiast. If your a weekend warrior or a stance guy of course the car isn’t worth it. But you won’t really get such a good driving car, with its good power and incredible handling and driver feel nowadays for the same price. It still has the classic Honda driving feel but with a modern touch whereas new sports cars are just fast and so lifeless and disconnected from the driving experience.
Like a miata?
No not really. I sold my turbo Miata to buy the S2000, it’s a great car don’t get me wrong I love miatas still. But the S2000 is just a much better, more refined Miata. More reliable, twice the power, extremely rigid chassis, better comfort, still easy to work on
@@ChrisSadowski i have bought :)
@Scott Farris like what?
You headed to flag?
I was headed to Payson
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Duhhh!!! Lol
Its a used car
No way!!!! You don’t say!!???
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