JTK, The Most Important Thing to Know About Using Laser Jammers: Five Minute Fridays, Ep. 10
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- JTK: This is the most important thing to know about using laser jammers.
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There is no better way to get pulled over and screamed at by a Trooper than leaving your jammer on. "I don't know how fast you were going but I KNOW YOU WERE SPEEDING LOL here's your warning. That trooper chick seriously got next to me and was screaming at me before she got behind me so crazy.
Good. Fuck them
Ok....is the hammer illegal in your state?
LOL No Trooper is going to scream at you. You either get a ticket or you don't. I was taught that 40 years ago when I was Trooper.
@@robertcruz6974 40 years ago id probably agree with you....but todays society....nothing surprises me
@@robertcruz6974 "No Trooper is going to scream at you"? Surely you don't think Troopers are emotionless robots...I have been screamed by a Trooper.
Love your videos man. I'm learning so much more! Thanks!
Nice video and tutorial Vortex ! More options on choices of effective jammers are coming soon :)
Thanks for all the intel of these detector of today! So much stuff on the market today and I just need the specifics, not all the fluff that others are spewing about! I bet most drivers will simply panic at that point in time! You have to be cool and not panic during that time of extreme duress!
A great video - lots of good info. Now I hope TMG will come in to a lower price point and do the job. Our local PD just got new "LASER" toys and I am ready to move forward. Like the JTK practice idea.
Thanks, Vortex. Another great video.
Can you do a video on outfitting a install laser/radio detector
Great video and so important. Dont understand why some manufacturers (i think escort is one) dont have auto kill built in? By not having this, they could actually be contributing to the demise of one of their own products?
I'd brake for 2 seconds, then kill the jammer. My car doesn't dive like that anyway. Powerful tools to save time and money.
John Baylor I stand corrected.
Lawrence Fearon exactly my car does not nose dive either and if you are going so damn fast to where you must slam on the brakes you are a fool.
@@Marksnotebook True, but nose diving is not illegal :)
I recognize the road you shot the speed tests on, I live in that neighborhood lol
Just so you know I got a 400 radar dector based on your videos. Uniden R3 very pleased has already saved my ass!(ty) if you have sponsors your videos work to actually sell to people keep up the great work laser jammers are next
Very good video as aways.
The cops know. When the nose of your car dives for the ground, he knows.
The nose dive is instinctive action to ticket you like when you run from a predator animal they have no choice but to attack.
Sometimes JTG makes more sense IMO. I agree with you, nose dive brakes, or brake light reflection, the all of a sudden their speed pops up after let if of brakes, would likely cause a run down, likely harassment.
The nose can dive in but can they see if I was breaking the speed limit?
Downshift instead. Works smoother, and unless you're 50 MPH over, 4 seconds will be plenty of time to smoothly decelerate. Even works on auto trans. and front-wheel drive. Unless your suspension is in really bad shape.. but if it is, maybe you shouldn't be driving fast enough to care about lasers.
Larry Gall I have a 2006 GT Mustang and instead of hitting the brakes I just slowly pull up on the e brake until I slow down to the speed limit and it’s seemed to work every time no problems whatsoever just if you try it don’t yank the brake😂
thank you so much very informative
Illegal makes me want one even more
thanks.. very helpful
Does it work in Lazer tag?
lol, pew pew pew!
Lol asking the important questions here. but for real, does it????
Use hand brake(foot brake) no nose dive 🤣. Not too hard otherwise he'll see you drifting.
Or engine braking if you car has it
Handbrake is also great if cop is behind you, then no "I'm guilty" brake lights.
*le Me does rolling EMP burst
Does it work for radar?
How accurate is lidar in the rain?
18 speed cops didn't like this video.
Superb !
If only Alderaan had these...
Luke: Are you okay?
Ben Kenobi: It was as if a billion voices cried out, and then decelerated.
Which one are you using?
hi sir, have you already tried ALP with trucam and the new lti 20/20 trucam? and does it work against it? also do you know someone which sells it in the Philippines? thanks
It works against the Trucam, yes. I don’t know who your dealer would be there though.
Vortex Radar works with trucam 2? thanks thats awesome!
Does this work against LiDAR? The newest technology being used. I just got a ticket and my Escort radar detector never made a sound. $179 later, looking for solutions for speed traps.
Sorry to hear about the ticket! Here’s what you need: czcams.com/video/Jhs9oqeMq3Q/video.html
I got Escort max 360c and it shows M signal again and again. Also shows 4 arrows red color again and again. I don’t know why. I want off them but don’t know how. If you tell me how to turn that off it would be appreciated. Thanks
Turn off MultaRadar
Wich laser hammer had a adjustable timer????
Probably the one in the description
If I am running a black car with a black grill, does the color of my car affect the response of the laser gun? Color black reflects less light than other colors.
With older guns it used to, but not anymore with modern laser guns.
@@VortexRadar hmm I wonder why? I have a green laser pointer I will play with and point it my car blk avalon xse my 19 pretty stealthy car. Love you're reviews have the new R7 coming in after my 12 yr old beltronics txt 65 needs some servicing.
Modern laser guns are very sensitive and do a great job at picking up speeds from even not so reflective targets.
With the ZW5 could you use 3 heads on the front - would that be a solution?
You can only run two heads max on the ZW5. I just published some info yesterday about it here: www.vortexradar.com/2018/07/escort-zw5-wireless-laser-shifter-review/
Yes I saw that and that it is a power thing - so was wondering if just 3 instead of 4 may not be suchs a power pull
Escort specifically says not to use more than 2 and to keep ports 3 and 4 unused.
Do a lot of cops use laser guns? I just got a uniden r3 and I’m wondering if I should get one
Oh yeah, all over the country. Great username by the way, lol.
Vortex Radar laser jammers are so expensive though and thanks! Lol
I gotta get one of these on my bike. Lol.
Is there any protection against Ka. My Escort went off at the moment the cop lit me up giving me a ticket.
Did your detector alert to radar or laser when it went off?
@@VortexRadar Ka is Radar
Yes, but you’re asking in a video about laser jammers. In that cause you got hit by instant on which is tough for any RD. Sorry about the ticket.
Would someone tell me with hard data proof, if Escort ZW3 will not stop any of the current laser measurement devices?
Ooh, outlook does not look good. You can go back and reference older tests on RDF. Most people have long since upgraded so there's not gonna be a ton of recent information.
Yea, the RDF tests had flaws. noted in fine print deep inside Vortex website. And they are old tests. I am tired of the whining (with a sly smile) about Escort being “mean”, and the bickering at Escort. We just need actual correct tests. Which would show actual benefits and flaws in any systems. Too much “brand fab boy”, referral commissions handed out that skew tests and opinion talk (IMO)
I will get my ZW5s installed and offer to be used in a comprehensive test, if the public reviewers have any interest. One will be on SUV, other on luxury sedan. I really like ALP from all the hoopla online. But, going full bore to get easy use and best performance runs the price and complex install way up (for my purposes).
Oh ZW5? I thought you meant ZR3. Yes I’ve tested the ZR5 in ShifterMax form several times (same performance as the ZW5) and have found them to be less effective than the ALP in terms of jamming capability. and this has zero to do with referral commissions. They’re still capable which is why I recommend them on my website. Good luck with your install.
Yea, my bad. Dyslexic moment. ZW5. You recommend them? Vague at best. Plus you hammered as “irresponsible” not having a auto disarm by time (for those you say are almost ignorant using them, do not know to hit the mute button). I agree the auto shut off by time can be effective. Primary my reasoning, any cop observing movement inside vehicle might see motion of hitting the mute button. Plus cockpit workload is less during that stressful time with auto shut off used exclusive. Nit sure it is “irresponsible” not having it for implied non knowledgeable users.
Referrals.. that was general statement applying to all. If you have a interest, will send you any documented performance. I looked for a video of you testing laser countermeasures with ZW5 and ALP (say from starting speeds of 45 through 75mph) real world. Did I miss this in search? Certainly that would back up your viewpoint. You are very good at this. I want YOUR documented results, not someone else who had a car starting at
You da man
Do a video on people going to jail for using a jammer!
Jammers are pretty hard to come by aren't they? Escort for example, Escort uses laser "Shifter's" not Jammers, correct?
What makes a laser jammer different if you call it a "shifter" like Escort does or a "defuser" like K40 does?
@@VortexRadar I'm not very clear on it. I was told that instead of Jamming, which is illegal in some places, Escort Shifts the reflective light to confuse the laser for a period of time. I don't know, hence my question.
It “shifts” in time the jamming return signal which is how a jammer works. They are 100% exactly the same thing. It’s all marketing.
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Any major disruptive new tech for laser mitigation coming in 2018? Is that why $300 off Escort wireless shifter? If you are under NDA, you still should be able to talk ecosystem trends coming.
Not that I'm aware of. They're running promotions on many of their products now to induce more sales. They're marketing more now lately as well. It's likely part of the fact that they are now owned by an investment company who's using them to turn a profit. They're less focused on engineering these days (look how long it's taking them to release promised updates for the Max2, Max360, or Max360c) and more on marketing and sales.
Ok, thanks for responding with your outlook. I may not go along with all of it, because it is based on conjecture (percentage of engineering to sales as one example, unless you know hard data on the reduction of engineering). A guess at best.
I do get the negative social mood towards Escort by those most vocal online has stooped to a new low. Certainly some self inflicted wounds by Escort. However, I have examples where I have spoke with support, experienced great success. Enrolling, smart “engineer on the phone”, not some outsourced call center where they have a binder of standard responses, and block escalation of cases. In this case, the Windows version of the “Pro” update client from April was broken with a Windows update. It affected certain versions of W10 OS. When I experienced the problem, they took it serious, were authentic, already had heard from others yet wanted my detail, and stated commitment to recover it quick. Which they did.
I am not a fanboy of them. I will do quick digress, speak from my background. When I was in late teens I did SCCA SOLO. Since I lived General area of Mike and Jim, I ran into them and one of their main engineers (Paul A. who became lead engineer for the upcoming Passport at that time). I got to know them. Eventually we each had our own eccentric 9C1 police Impalas we had fun running in same class as the F bodies of the time. We actually won events with these beasts. I cut my teeth in this ecosystem by going out at night and testing the original Escort with MR7s, later MPH K55s, Kustom KR series and so forth. Through my dads company, I was able to get a pre-shipment of the Escort copy cat made by Cobra to test. A Asia knock off of the original Escort. Was inferior. Assisted in some of the original street testing for the original Passport. I could go on.... When they sold, naturally kept some contact during the V1 early days. My life moved on in tech field, moved to adjacent state, left that orbit. Became a consumer only. Up until 2012 or so, a fanboy of V1. Then tried a Max against my fully updated at that time V1. Max blew it away raw range (my many varied experiences) and of course easy to use advanced features and Live. Since that time, kept up with last V1 exchange update (BSM), mostly used Max and 360, and added EX as experiment. Unlike yourself who does a great job, and others in the active community, I am just a experienced consumer. At your strong suggestion, I bought a R3. Thank you. A real diamond in the rough. Lots of potential behind its top range. If Uniden can keep their focus momentum, and get ahead of newer LEO jack boot traffic harassment tech, they will have long life. They need more integration/features (IMO) like Escort (and V1 API partners). From your smiles and comments, seems like Uniden gets their destiny. I look forward to that.
In mean time, for now, not going ALP route. Up until now, never had active laser system (many years ago, some HAM developed powerful “anti collision” radar might have also lurked in proximity of close by LEO stuff. :) all for testing purposes on the unlicensed spectrum LEO uses too). Been able to avoid laser LEO hassle. In past year or so, realize need for better laser defense. We will see if the ZW5s do enough. Will not count on them.
Oh, not laser related, Vortex. I am getting frustrated with local and sheriffs running some kind of wicked K band that is tuned almost on top of the various BSM ranges. I have caught them many times. I am not confused. I pulled up to one who had his going in parking lot. We talked. Yes, with a wry smile giving him away, they are nailing all kinds of defector folks with tickets. He knew why. I spoke with him through my window. Did not get close enough to catch the brand. He said he leaves his on almost all the time, because it did not matter to him. Either caused K band noise for RD users, or they were dark because they thought he was BSM. He laughed when I said I figured the game out. He said most never will. Point is, until past 6 months, around here, we could count on Ka being the weapon of choice. K only for the poor rural counties running referb K from eBay. I thought I would pass this on in case it has value.
por favor poderia falar mais devagar. Obrigado.
Any good install videoes for Durango suvs?
lol how fast are you driving a durango to need a laser jammer or are the cops just a bit eager to hand out tickets where you live?
What see police officer on their gun error?
Peanut butter and laser jam sandwich
What about jamming to Hungarian Laser Cam - ARH-Cam S1 in Europe
What if the laser was shot from the side in a parking lot
The jammers have multiple jammer outputs that you can put front, back, center, sides, etc. all at once.
This R3 is becoming a real piece of work 💩 laser goes off for no reason at all, they want me to send it in so they can look at it.... then I’m without one 🤦🏻♂️🤷🏼♂️
I would very much suggest not immediately killing your jammers after slamming on the brakes and scrubbing off 30 mph. The more correlation between you hitting the brakes and letting off and killing them, and then him getting a speed immediately, the more suspicious it is IMO. Roll on the brakes, and roll off to minimize chassis dive, then wait a half second, then kill them. The more disconnected the event of him obtaining a speed is from your deceleration, the less suspicious he’ll be of you running jammers, and the more likely he is to think that his gun choked. I.e. “if he was running jammers, he would have killed them immediately.”
z400racer37 being suspicious is not a crime. You shouldn't even be getting pulled over unless they can see and prove that an infraction has happened. Silence is your friend
Yeah, but I can’t decelerate from 120 to the speed limit of 55 in 4 sec safely lol
This was 6 minutes
Jtg isnt illegal. Why be against it?
Do you want it to stay that way?
If it's legal in your stat then he'll with it....keep it on
You want it to stay legal, right? Someone in Texas applied this logic and now, guess what? A bunch of angry police officers went out and made it illegal. Please use your tools responsibly.
@@VortexRadar they only mad because your product is costing them money lol
Just do not speed. I go about 7 -10 mph over limit. No problem. (Not in city, highway).
you mean don't keep up with the flow of traffic?
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Leave jammers on all the time, if u get clocked at 200kmh 4 seconds will not be good enough. Might as well hope u get away, if not atleast your lawyer has something to work with. No speed reading
If its legal in your state, why even bother? They cant give you a ticket without proof of speeding.
It's important because you don't want to be the reason they become illegal. You also don't want to give them any reasons to pull you over or get suspicious.
@@VortexRadar Okay, whatever you say. I for one have nothing to hide. Go ahead pull me over, give me my warning, and get along with your day.
Another 90 second video done in 6 minutes.
this is stupid, unless you like street racing why would you dump over a grand in detectors and jammers when your ticket probably wont exceed 250? most tickets i got were under 100 dollars.
Insurance
come on guys.. break the law responsibly.. jesus!
There is no damned reason to disarm unless illegal. Such a stupid point of view.
So if an action is completely irresponsible, but not illegal, then it’s just fine. Gotcha.
Messing with toys when you are already speeding to avoid them detecting you doing something perfectly legal. Yea so no reason. If they stop you record them and file a complant.
If the jammer goes of that means the cop already has a lock on you so by the time you press the brake to slow down (2 seconds) and press the jammer button it's already too late.
Laser jammers don't work. They are a scam!
Lucky you!. It just happens to be "be nice to idiots day", so I'm not going to say anything at all. Have a nice day!
You are an idiot if you think they don't work.