My 300 WM vs 300 PRC Showdown I Greg McHale's Wild Yukon
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- My 300 WM vs 300 PRC Showdown I Greg McHale's Wild Yukon
I’ve been shooting a Gunwerks ClymR in 300 WM for many years when chasing moose and bison. This year, I’m changing things up and am running a Gunwerks NEXUS in 300 PRC.
The 300 WM has been around since 1963 and is a proven and effective cartridge for many applications. It is easy to find in almost any sporting shop, and most rifle manufacturers sell 300 WM rifles.
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Video title: My 300 WM vs 300 PRC Showdown I Greg McHale's Wild Yukon
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The 300 PRC has only been around since 2018; thus, rifles and cartridges are harder to come by than the Winchester Magnum. Developed by Hornady, the 300 PRC shines at long distances. Its sophisticated design provides fantastic accuracy at competition distances, but it could be more than you need as a hunter.
Overall, I’m happy with my choice of the 300 PRC. With its advantages in accuracy, I think this cartridge is a great choice. However, if you’re not as focused on shooting great distances, the trusty 300 WM remains an excellent choice for large game hunting.
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If you load the 300 WM to 3.55" and shoot 200+ grain bullets, it will match the velocity and energy of the 300 PRC. The PRC only has 2 advantages over the 300 WM which are faster twist rate and longer OAL. Most rifles can be loaded long if you handload. 300 WM brass and low cost loaded cartridges end up being almost 50% the cost of 300 PRC. Why not just own both?
Both great cartridges, but idk what physics calss u took? Heavier projectile+more case volume+higher chamber pressure specs+greater muzzle velocity does not=less recoil.
When will you be posting some hunting videos? So many hunting channels not posting hunting. Sorry. Just a reality
I have both the .300 wm and the .300 PRC and in my case the PRC is easier to get load dev correct, and it definitely has an edge at distance, so because I load my own, I prefer the PRC over the WM. If I was limited to factory ammo I’d say they’re equal in my estimation
Science we all seen what the Science was about this past 4 years Science went to the highest bidder
More hunting videos!!! Love the channel
Yall take it easy on the man…… His sponsors approved this video so let him make a little money.
Interesting that you say prc has less recoil since everyone else says it has more. I chose the 300wm due to ammo availability, cost and selection. Cant hunt with the prc if theirs no ammo. Though to bad they didnt have thier ammo up a lot more, then people would have bought it, like myself. I also dont like that they come in a neutered 24 inch barrel. Magnums need at least a 26 to get most of the powder to burn. The prc honestly doesnt add alot more over the 300wm for ethical hunting distances, so if you already have one theirs no need to jump over to it, unless if you have money to burn and just want it. Now if you target shooting long ditances and making money on matches it would be a serious contender to change over to it.
Sorry Greg you missed the boat on this one. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Put a bullet down range faster with more powder (ejecta) and you get more recoil. End of story. Also reload your 300 WIN Mag in a rifle with a faster twist and a longer action (so you can use more powder) and you get about the same ballistics as the PRC. In that case recoil will be similar.
Or you can just buy a factory rifle for way cheaper and get the better ballistics without having to do a bunch of unnecessary mods
@@megaconda07 No mods on the Fierce..it comes with the 3.6" box.
@@north61so does the Remington high end models all come with long mags for reloading.
@@randysmith8604 Sorry Randy.. I haven't bought a Remington for 20 years.
@@randysmith8604 Not sure about that. I haven't had a new Remington for 30 years or so.
I wouldn't give up my 300 Weatherby for either.
I think it would be good to have graphs show the velocity, trajectory, energy and BC between each. Maybe have each graph showing a 180 grainer and a 200 hundred grainer.
If you hand load both rounds, the WM will win. The PRC has shown to run into pressures sooner than the WM. I could run a 300WM with the 215gr Bergers in the 3k FPS range. The PRC will run into pressures before that. This is not looking at loads and books to figure this out. This has been loaded on several rifles and barrel to prove this.
Well this is just completely false. Obviously all just depends on barrel length, but what you’ve said is just wrong.
@@haydenhumpherys1578 How so? I have done it. Learn about what is out there and what can do what.
@@ddn79 I hav both as well. I’m not sure if you’re just not using quality brass for your 300 PRC or what. But it has a higher case capacity with a more effective design. You can’t push the win mag as far. Especially if you +P the 300 PRC, it can push a 215 into the 3100 fps range. You’re simply wrong
@@haydenhumpherys1578 I'm using Peterson brass and also have a friend Lapua 300WM brass, we can push them much harder then that of a 300PRC. The secret is the powder. 80-81gr of N570 in a 300WM M248 chamber will run every bit with a 300PRC. Most of the people I have seen with the PRC can not run it that hot without having major case sticking issues. This was also noted by Sam and Mark Afterwork.
Simply not true.
Would have been great to actually see the numbers to understand by how much more the PRC wins....
Greg, what is your go-to cartridge and load for the 300 PRC?
Are you going by hornady stated speed,drop and energy.? Idk about the 300 by they grossly over estimate that 7mm PRC. I would like to see actual firing and chronograph testing at different ranges to see if it is actually better.
I agree, I've seen a lot or almost all prc under their stated velocity when aci chronod
@@craigholland2274 if speed is over rated then the drop and energy has to be off as well
The 7 is definitely over stated but my .300 prc with a 26” barrel and using the 225 eld-m’s is averaging 2830 fps using the Caldwell ballistic precision 2.0 chrono. Hornady says it’s 2810 out of a 24” barrel. So that is about right or within the range of error.
@@craigholland2274my 6.5 and .300
PRC’s shoot over Hornadys box speeds using the eld-m’s in each. The 7 is roughly 30-40 fps slower than stated box speed
How long are both barrels
Having shot a 300 win and reloaded for it, I disagree on accuracy. The prc is on average across multiple platforms, more inherently accurate. Im not talking about custom builds. Just factory rigs. Prc gets the nod on accuracy.
Isn't the PRC more consistently accurate in factory rifles most of us can afford without custom chambers and barrels? The chamber tolerances are much looser in the old win mag, right?
If you only use Fact Ammo, your 300 WM chamber might bee a bit loose(depends on a particular rifle and ammo) Anyone shooting long range reloads their once fired/chamber formed brass, so accuracy is up to the rifle not the cartidge. Hunting accuracy vs target accuracy?? Many long range matches have been won with a 300 WM
@@WillyK51 Good point on handloading. I am looking to get into handloading for my 7mm rem mag to try to get better accuracy. I would be happy around 1 MOA. Do you full length resize or neck only? One thing I don't understand is full length sizing my once fired brass. I understand that the fired brass will expand to fit the chamber. I can then bump the shoulder back .001-.002 to get a custom tight fit. I can also tailor the neck diameter as well. What I don't get is what about resizing the diameter of the case body from belt to shoulder? How do you get a "custom for your chamber" resizing in that section? Can you order specific diameter dies to match a specific chamber, or are they all standard factory diameter for the cartridge?
@@WillyK51 I guess reloading fired brass only affects the gaps around the brass. What about the tolerances in the throat and leade? Those are also tighter on the newer creedmoor and PRC designs.
@@elkhuntr2816 Well if you target shoot at 1 mile. Then it maters. But if you hunt Elk at 500 Yds You still wouldn't hit the Eye of the Bull. It's about 2" I will stick to the 300 WM. My very old(1917 US Enfield) 30-06 still shoots 1 moa, with the bullet it likes. Some time in the future will build a 7mm Rem Mag( If hot rodding would choose the 28 Nosler) in a Controled feed magnum action for Grandson. Not 7PRC. Long throated and chase the lands to see what bullet it likes. We are millions of shooters so there will be millions of opinions about which best. Old Myself will stick to old fashin cartridges. Grew up reading Elmer Keith and Jack O'Connor. I'm a big bore fan as well as a bit zip. But 7mm is the smalest call for me👍
@@WillyK51 I agree, if you can consistently shoot MOA (shooting 10 3 shot groups and superimposing), you are set. No need to switch. It seem like the new chamber designs just make it easier to find a true MOA factory rifle shooting factory ammo. I have a browning a bolt in 7mm rem mag that averages 1.5-2.0 MOA with factory ammo. That's OK on elk at 500, but not deer. If we limit ourselves to 500 on deer, there's certainly no need for a magnum, even a creedmoor can easily do that. A creedmoor doesn't have enough energy for elk at 500, but a 6.5 PRC would, and probably even a 270. If I shoot a 7 mag, I want to be able to use it to its full long range potential past 500. The problem is, accuracy becomes the limiting factor in my case. If I could get mine to shoot MOA (consistently) I would be thrilled and keep it. Its fine as an elk rifle, but I use it for deer and bear as well.
Show us why the PRC has less recoil.
It's more about the ergonomics and weight of the rifle. In the same model rifle the 300 PRC has to kick a bit more. You are pushing the same bullet 100 Fps faster in the 300 PRC
I have both and my prc is heavier, and with a brake or suppressed kicks more than my win mag
@@predatorhuntingobsession5104 You didn't mention the weight of the bullets. I prefer 180 Grns in the 300WM, 300PRC designed to use 210-220 Grns, should kick more. Practical as to cartridge availability. Would have a 3.8" action chambered in 300WM to seat out long bullets, to about the same performance as the 300PRC👍
the 300 prc was literally designed to be a upgraded 300 win mag cartridge. So of course its going to win in all categories
It would be nice to see the 300PRC VRS the 300RUM?
RUM. smokes everything.... Love my 300 and 375 RUMS.
Rum has more recoil, more energy, I’m getting 2890 with the 220 eld-x in the rum and 2830 with the 225 eld-m in the prc. Out to 800 not a lot of difference. After that my prc out performs
If you shoot the same factory grain ammo it should be the same
I love your channel and I have both 300s. In this video you are not giving any proof to your assumptions. My main rifle now is the PRC but the WM still gets plenty of use by my son. There both 30 calibur but the rifle twist rates, the bullet weights, the chamber tolerance are the difference maker. PRC shooting much heavier bullets.
Reload Really take advantage of the 300 PRC
Actually chrono your prc. I bet your opinion won't be the same.
Hard to get hunting ammo for 300 prc here in Canada only match ammo ava,
Here in Wyoming it’s the opposite. Prc ammo everywhere and can’t find RUM
@@predatorhuntingobsession5104 Hi just picked up sako 6.5 PRC AND PICKED UP EVERY ammo of different brands just waiting to see the 300prc ammo availablity before getting a 300 PRC all the best
300 RUM or 30-378.. Why go slower and weaker..
The 300 PRC has about 10 Grns more case cap than the 300WM. So it will shoot about 100 Fps faster with the same Bullet. Factory ammo is 200-225 grns Bullets. You need a 3.8" magnum lengh Action/magazine for the 300PRC. Most hunting is done with a 180 grns bullet in the 300WM, Recoil can't be less if you are shooting the same bullet 100 fps faster. Availabillity 54 dif brands/loads for the 300 WM, 15 for the 300RUM and 5 for the 300PRC (Midway's) I don't see the 300 PRC gaining popularity. I will make a 300 WM in a Mag lengh 3.8" action to seat out longer copper bullets. For what ever game, I doubt I need 200+ grns bullets. Grizzly maybe. The 300 PRC is a very fine cartridge, But if I went for a bit more Omph in a Mag leng action I would choose the 30 Nosler
Haha PRC wins recoil and he says it based on science. Yet doesnt show any numbers to prove his claim. More velocity and higher bc which in .30 caliber bullets is based on design and heavy for caliber bullets. So higher velocity and bullets weights will yield higher recoil numbers. Not sure were the science claim came from.
Haha, he tries to refute claims said in video about not providing any science but then proceeds to not also provide any science
I have both and I will guarantee the prc with a break or suppressor has more
Recoil than my win mag both suppressed and with brake
This claptrap comparison is so completely lacking in detail or nuance that it is as much uninformative as it is uninteresting.
Also your claim that 300PRC has less recoil is patently false.
I personally don’t think one is inherently “better” than the other. They both have their place. However, if faced with a choice between 300PRC and 300WM, I would choose 300WSM.
Cheers!
Hey Greg,
You ever heard of 300 WSM?
That's a $10,000 + Gunwerks 300 PRC you got there.
300 WSM with a 20" Barrel will out gun 300 PRC or 300 WIN with a 20" barrel.
Also, less powder, less recoil, shorter and lighter equals no brainer!!
Sheep hunters dream for sure!!!
Also, the so said great 300 PRC is what it was made for long range 1000 yards, 26" barrel to burn all that powder. I have yet to see you shoot anything over 500 yards.
So just do the math, hunters fall into this BS under normal hunting conditions shooting less than 500 yards far better off shooting a liter bullet.
Has less recoil, higher velocity which helps it carry the same energy out to 500 yards as your heavy high BC bullets.
My opinion, it's not ethical to be shooting an animal at 1000 yards anyway to many variables.
I purchased a 300 WSM Falkor Defense LW7 20" 1-8 twist Carbon Barreled action with Bix'n Andy Dakota Trigger from Oregon Mountain Rifle CO $2,500
Purchased an MDT HNT 26 Chassis Arca forearm, folding butt stock on sale $1,200 weight 28 oz "Which I can remove and use on any short action Rem 700"
Wyoming Arms 4 sq TI Suppressor 4" 4oz $650 Tax Stamp $200
Leupold HD 6 3x18x44 $1,500 on sale
Talley Light weight scope mounts $65
Hawkin Hunter 3 round Mag $100
Gun setup loaded weighted in at 7.7 lbs.
.5 MOA 175 gr LRX 3100 FPS or .75 MOA 200 gr LRX 2850 Handload Myself 200 rds $400
Price $6,600
Buy yourself 300 WSM its Shorter, lighter, less powder and less recoil = No Brainer LOL
Where’s the science numbers boy?
We are supposed to just take your word for it with no real world testing come on man step your content up.
Good grief. The science? Sounds like someone hired the climate scientists to write this script.
Remember hes part of the sponsor chain. He has to watch what he says.
Truth hurts folks. Get off some coin or keep crying