Harley Davidson, M8 Clutch Fluid Change !
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- Brake and Clutch Fluid needs regular changing, more if you ride in the rain!
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Man every video that you've made has been spot on. You don't load your uploads with unnecessary content, just the info straight and forward, thank you....
Most welcome sir, thank you for our feedback.
@@Moonfleet41 without your knowledge and the willingness to share I'd be feedback-less. Glad your getting back to the Sportster, next month after my better half gives birth to our daughter I promised I'd pick her up one and anything Sportster related gets her all jazzed, you have two subs for two different bikes lol.
@@A_A_Ron001 Thanks again buddy, welcome aboard, and good luck with the coming birth.. !
@@Moonfleet41 What an awesome video!!! You explained everything!! And the info was correct.Never seen it done reverse before, is there a reason why or does it matter??
@@Kawboi386Thanks mate, as you can see, it works, and is way easier then conventional bleeding.!
that "white threadlock" is corrosion caused by dissimilar metals, no thread lock on them bolts
Don't worry, it's easter eggs for the trolls mate !
great video I'm just curious did you have to loosen the exhaust to get the cover off transmission or did you have enough space I have a 2017 Road Glide and I need to loosen the exhaust
I’ve always bled mine like the brakes. Never have seen the reverse method, but I like it!
Next time for sure. Thanks for the great video
Yeah, give it a go mate, quick and easy, and especially easy for split brake hoses on the front. Thanks for watching.
Thank you for cleaning the old thread locker off before applying new...I see so many guys wipe it off on their shirt, slop blue right over the top of it and back in the hole it goes ..lol great video my friend! Both of my bikes need this done right now and winter is a great time to do it. Cheers!
You bet, thank you for your support as ever..
Good to see you that you look happy and healthy mate and as always excellent camera work penny!
Thanks mate, improving all the time and feeling fit.. thanks for your support mate.
I’ve never reversed flushed my brakes/clutch… Very interesting for sure. I’m guessing this method works better at eliminating any air bubbles that can tend to be trapped in the line flushing the normal way (?). Great video for sure. I’ve installed self bleeders on my 2002 Kaw Connie, but I’ve only bleed the brakes/clutch filling the reservoir top down. The self bleeders seem to work well… so far anyways. 🤷♂️ Thanks again for great content and as always, so good to see someone do it right. I cover my tank, and wrap the reservoir(s) with old cotton t-shirts I use as rags. Keeps the accidental spillage from getting on anything that isn’t reservoir territory 😉.
Brilliant job!
Very gently done Del 👍
Went out early last year, on my way home(5 mile out) my clutch "failed", so had to rev match on down-shifts(stopping was a nightmare).
Sorted it next day, guess what, _no fluid_ in the system. ordered new clutch slave kit, fitted and(just as you did) reverse bled the clutch(Bandit), smooth as silk after.
Blimey mate, well saved, been there once myself on my 1200 Bandit, it seems they were a weak point, and one of the reasons for the common swop to stick a 600 clutch cover on it(not the actual clutch cover, but the sprocket cover from a 600 Bandit, swop the bar furniture as well, and hey presto, a cable clutch on your 1200 Bandit, problem solved!)
Great advice Del! Appreciated. I have 2003 Anniversary Softail Deuce and I think my clutch fluid must be a few years old now! (Best have a look and service as accordingly), Cheers mate.
Glad it helped Shaun, let us know how you get on.!
They didn't have hydraulic clutches that year and model. 2016 and up for Softails!!
Great video as always Del. Hope you are keeping well. Happy New Year!
Happy new year Peter, good to hear from you, and hope you had a good holiday break. !
Q. why do you not have a second syringe to suck the wasted brake fluid out? Surely that would save the fafing about keep changing fluids in the one you are using to recharge the system and save time. You'd only need a large hypo for this purpose. Like the way you are saving folks "LOADSAMONEY", keep up with the excellent content.
Yeah I've got a second one on the shopping list, it would have been easier, but no big shakes to wipe it out and as ever, constant other expenses to pay out!
on 5.29 i see fluid escaping🤨 on the handlebar skrew?
Thank you for sharing. I enjoy working on my own lowrider also.
Did I miss something? Why were the bags taken off? - great video, nicely shot and edited.
Forcing the brake fluid from the bottom. Nice.
I have NEVER trusted dealers doing any maintenance on my bikes, every winter I do my own maintenance get ready for spring rides!! Your video is continuous awesome. Keep it up brother!!
I hear that a lot, but I do know several Harley technicians personally and they're decent, skilled and honest guys, the only thing I find a little abrasive is the money their bosses charge in comparison to what the guys earn at the bench, but then running a business is frighteningly expensive, so I guess needs must.
@@Moonfleet41 I wished some honest ones here.. just lucky being heavy equipment mechanic, gives me skills work on my own bikes… tools just one thing I hated to buy but pays itself in labor replacement. 👍
Not sure why you took the saddle bags off, but OK... You have to try to change the clutch fluid on a Road Glide. Quite the ordeal to level the reservoir. Also, the cover to the bleeder on my bike can't be fully remove, I have to pull the top open and have just enough room to change fluid. Are those stock headers on your bike?
I started using Bosch ESI6-32N Brake Fluid in my C90T and friends Harley’s. Seems last longer and handle the heat a lot better in traffic and such.
Beautiful street glide Del. Didn't realise you had one. Been considering trading the sportser for a 114 street Bob. Cracking video as always with the reverse bleed technique. Like most people I would have thought it was the pivot squeaking. 🇸🇪🇬🇧😊👋🏻
Cheers Paul, it's a common problem and I seem to get it every year, but an easy fix! Go take a test ride on that Street Bob, and I guarantee you won't wanna get back on your Sportster!
@@Moonfleet41 Yes a quick easy fix! I recently bought a pen like instrument which is a brake fluid tester measuring water content. I couple of weeks ago I changed the brake fluid on the sportser and out of interest I checked for water content in a 12 month old open bottle I used. It was just on the verge of being usable. In spring I'm changing again to be on the safe side even though I haven't used it. As for the 114 Street Bob I know I would be hooked that's why I haven't test rode one yet lol. 🇸🇪🇬🇧😅👋🏻
What kind of brake fluid do you put in a 2019 CVO Limited CLUTCH?
You do a great job explaining
Thank you Brent. Glad you think so!
Happy New Year Del. Stay healthy! 🙏
Thanks Ryker, you too.
Great video Del. Reverse brake bleeding service with the correct tools and procedure.
Thanks mate, simple and effective aye. clutch is much nicer now.
Where is the libe for the resovoir just how full should that be ? Thanks
Not that easy on my bike Brother! Had to pull the chrome heat shields, the R/H floorboard, remove the bolts holding the R/H muffler on, loosen the exhaust bolts from the heads, and finally I get to remove the clutch cover plate. When I first started I thought it was gonna be this easy also, but nope! Had to do all that to get my cover off. Don't get a 2017 CVO Ultra 114, or you'll have to do all of this also for 5 minutes of work. I'm gonna have to start a CZcams channel so I can justify to my wife on getting a motorcycle lift!!
Sorry to hear that brother, it can be a hell of a job for such a simple task! Same goes for the rear brake fluid reservoir on some Dynas, you can clearly see what order they assemble the bike in at the factory!
@@Moonfleet41 Forgot to say above, really appreciate what you do for the community, taking the time do these informational videos helps us guys and gals out tremendously! That's a lot of sitting behind the computer! Appreciate ya Brother!
Thank you so much for your kind words of support sir..!
Hey Del, I’ve been meaning to ask you this question in regards to the brakes but it applies here as well. How do you know where to fill the reservoir to? With the brakes if you’re pads are due a change wouldn’t you have to put less fluid in the reservoir as the new pads would push the piston back filling the reservoir with more brake fluid than before right? When I did my brakes and clutch this past summer I used a needle to make a light mark at the level of the brake fluid in the reservoir on the inside them filled it back up to that level. Be good to hear so experienced feedback on this, on my old bike I must have put too much fluid in because after a ride I had brake fluid weeping from the reservoir. Thanks Del 🍻me mukka.
OK, it goes like this.. Fill to the top of the sight glass for the old pads you have, (if no sight glass, go about 6mm from the top!) Then, when it comes time for new pads, suck the fluid out of the reservoir, push the pistons back and fit the new pads, then top up with fresh fluid to the same level as before, that way, you'll have correct adequate fluid with the low pads, and also with the new pads, you simply adjust accordingly mate.. Hope that helps.
@@Moonfleet41 thanks a million for your reply Del, 90% of my servicing knowledge comes from you. 🍻
Another great video brother !!! that syringe works perfectly! I think reverse bleeding on brakes is the way to go based on personal experience. Great job brother , stay safe guys cheers from new york 🥂🥂🥂🥂
I think you're right, if you can reverse purge a hydraulic system it helps to prevent any air getting in and saves time too.. take care and ride safe brother, and have a great week both of you.. D&Pxx
Love your HD vids best of all for obvious reasons, Del. This is an often overlooked maintenance item. That syringe is a brilliant bit of kit! Hope you both are doing ok there… stay safe!
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Hey Gary, you're absolutely right, it falls between the cracks so often because it's on time not mileage, and so many Harley riders do little mileage compared to the time they own the bike, so it just gets left... but easily done and definitely improves the feel of the clutch... we're both recovering, every day gets a little easier, keep safe, D&Px
@@Moonfleet41 Yessir. And “keep on keeping on”!
By the way, forgot to mention, great video! Very easy to follow and easy enough for most to do at home!! Thanks!!!
You're most welcome! it is an easy task and makes a real difference to the feel of the clutch.
I saw you used Mobil one brake fluid? What's the exact name of it? And why did you remove the bags? Also I removed my clutch cover on the 114 and I saw some water come out with the clutch fluid. Will that make shifting gears a little noisy with a little water in it? I have 6,500 miles on my 2019 street glide special. Thank you for this video!!
Om izin tanya, minyak kopling rekomendasi apa ya? Saya isi pake Brembo kopling ngeloss kalo panas
Provided it is DOT4 fluid, then any good brand is fine, it sounds like you may have air trapped in the system, so perhaps re-bleed it to get a full hydraulic lock... we have plenty of videos in our Playlists on that subject!
Great video Del!! Is the same fluid fot breaks and clutch?
Brake and clutch fluid is the same thing!
Awesome video really appreciate it. What size hose did you use for the syringe.? Thank you again👍
Hi John, the tube came with the syringe, i believe it's 6mm ID ! Hope that helps.
Hi Del, excelelnt vid mate, didn't know you had a harley M8...I had the M8 heritage, loved it until wrote it off last July, not my fault, 7 days in hospital but have bought a 14 plate XL1200C, but wont be able to ride till the spring, love to you and Pen
Blimey, so sorry to hear that Tony, i hope you've made a full recovery (as much as we ever can) and that you're feeling fine now. the 1200C is a pretty rare bike now, and as the proper Sportster has been discontinued in Europe, they'll never lose any value. Good luck for a return to the road in spring, take it steady mate and enjoy the process. Keep us posted how you get on aye.. Take care. D&Px
@@Moonfleet41 thanks guys by the way Iam a member of HOG Mancunium Chapter and looking forward to the summer. I think lol. Tony
@@tonywaterhouse5291 HOG are a well organised bunch for sure, have fun and ride safe mate.
WHOA! Nothing makes a pucker moment more than a guy snapping gloves on his hands and grabbing a syringe! lol Great DIY and money saving tip. Great looking bike too! Makes me miss my Electra Glide.
Hey brother, great to hear from you, sounds like you need to get yourself a bike back on the road!... great to hear from you, hope you're both keeping well!
It won't be another Harley, unless I win the lottery. But I'm always on the hunt for something affordable that'll get my knees back in the breeze!
✌🙂good Job
Job well done Del & Penny. Nice how - to, will help a lot of people with that job mate. How are you liking the 114 ? Penny and you have a great week, take care. Cheers
Hey buddy, glad you enjoyed it, and absolutely loving the 114, it'd astonishing the amount of power they produce compared to the old twin cam, plus less heat and vibration too, I'd recommend one to anyone if they haven't tried one out yet.! You have a great week too and keep safe. D&Px
Any specific reason why you are draining from the bottom and adding from the top?
Del, you make it look so easy. Well done as usual 👍
Thank you Sir, simple work we can all carry out at home right.!
Another excellent video I hope you had a safe and happy christmas and the new year is treating you all well 👍
Thank you Jamie, wishing you the same, and yes, we're fine, looking forward to the spring.
Great video but why take off both saddle bags?
So the viewers could get a clear view of what we were doing.
that was excellent... no bs like a lot of the videos posted on this site
Do you think if I rub break fluid into my knees in winter that squeaky sound I hear when I stand up will go?
Thanks Dr. Del 😁
Moral: After just twenty mins working on a Harley, your thumbs will stop squeaking . . . S'gotta beat 'juiced emu' eh? : ) x
Great video Del, as always. I haven’t got a Harley or a Hydraulic clutch but love your work all the same. Wow, £100 of labour. Is that two hours at £50, or is the rate even higher these days?
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed the video, and sadly no, that wasn't two hours, just one, and to make it worse, it was 25% discounted labour rate due to a customer prepay package. (according to the invoice). labour rates in motorcycle main dealerships are level with car dealers now, about £125 to £150 an hour ! just how it is i guess !
@@Moonfleet41 Thanks very much for responding Del. Wow, that’s incredible! I had no idea. And I thought £50 was a lot, I’m way out of touch.😆.
Hey man! It’s been a while since I watched your videos because I moved from a sportster to a street glide! I see you did as well! I was watching this cause I may need a new clutch. I powder coated the levers and now have a clutch issue. The shop thinks maybe the thickness of the powdercoat was pushing on the hydraulic clutch cylinder and I burnt out the plates.
Hi there and Welcome back! sorry to hear about that, it must have been slipping for a while to have actually worn the fiber plates out !! i guess all they can do it drop them out and take a look.. Good luck with it, i hope it's a simple fix and not so serious.!
@@Moonfleet41 thanks I’m going to start with the fluid change and hope it helps
@@harleyroadster9502 Good luck buddy.. hope that's all it takes to fix it.
@@Moonfleet41 guess what I couldn’t pull fluid or push it and confirmed lines not clogged. Looks like o have to replace the internal components, the spring and actuator.
Yay nice to see a Harley on the bench, I was contemplating reverse bleeding the brakes on the Fatboy as the fluid is over 2 yrs old, I know its ABS but the nearest dealer is miles away, what is your take on it Del, hope you & PP have a great 222 you both deserve & earned it x👍👍
Hi Geoff, this was clutch, so not relevant with ABS issues... with your Fatboy, if you don't have experience of this, or the right equipment it could be worth that trip to the dealer... specially if you tuck it in with something else to make the trip worthwhile... the biggest concern is if you get any problems it will throw a warning light, then you'll have to make the trip anyway. Hope you're keeping well yourself, we are both ok here and like you, hoping for a better 2022! All the best, D&Px
@@Moonfleet41 thanks Del, have a good week, x👍
Great video Del! Loving the harley too... I need to get myself a test ride on one soon methinks.... I may get in touch with Sykes up the road from home who are my nearest dealer... Quite like the look of the fat bob 114 in all honesty
My buddy has a 114 Fat Bob, they're pretty awesome mate.. Life's too short for "some day" ! go do it.!
@@Moonfleet41 I shall when I can find time to get up there and back during a lunch break from work!
@@MintyGusto Sounds like a Sunday morning run mate.. drop in at 10, get out for a couple or hours on the demo, and back for a fryup for lunch.!
Nice video! Just curious about what to do with the waste break fluid or any used hazardous materials when I’m all done with the job? Does this require an expensive service to come to the garage and dispose or is there a better less expensive method? Thanks!
I take all my waste automotive fluids to the local tip where they have a recycling facility ! once i build up a few bottles full, i go tip it in their big tank !
Thanks Del, I appreciate all your advice. Cheers Mate!
This may be a daft question, can you do brakes that way ? Seems a lot easier than normal ,
On most bikes. Yes you can !
Holding lever pulled overnight to let bubbles escape?
I don't do that with clutches, only brakes, it's not good to keep the clutch springs pressed in for all that time.
hi, ive have a bmw r nine t with a fluid operated clutch using mineral oil and bmw say its not part of the service schedule and never needs changing. does mineral oil absorb water like hydraulic fluid and what do you think of the never needs changing idea.
No Mark, the mineral oil won't absorb water, but it will break down over a long time, (a long time meaning maybe 10+ years or more).. so you could still change it if it's really old, but nothing like the regular intervals of the DOT glycol based fluids!
Perfection again........Hope all is well your way, Del.......and again, HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Happy New Year to you too, thanks for your support and your friendship, keep well, D&Px
Squeak be gone 👏🏻 I bet it’s nice to get rid of the mouse riding pillion.
there you go man cant make it any easier than that cheers del iv said it before i do like the how to videos m8 atb iain
Thanks Iain, yes you're right, easy enough task and really improves things once its done. Take care and keep in touch mate.
It becomes a real pain when aftermarket pipes get in the way. If the cover
Yeah, i have had that a couple of times, worst design i ever saw was getting access to the rear brake reservoir on a Switchback.. totally hidden and buried behind the exhaust, aftermarket or standard, just the same.. makes a rear brake fluid change a two hour job.!
Sound advice as usual. …Question, why haven’t you got a bench on The Repair Shop, I’d pay to watch you putting some old fellas Triton back together with some assistance from Dom!
I love that show, and working with Dom would be a cool day out for sure. Thanks for your very kind support mate.
Sir , I don't have the squeaky sound from my clutch handle but when shifting gears i need to completely squeeze the clutch handle for the gear to engage. Also if I start my ultra when I squeeze the clutch handle to its limit my bike surges forward. Can the issue be low level clutch fluid . Thank. You for sharing Big Mex from central California.
Hi there, ok, two things maybe.. if you have after market "fat comfort grips" they can prevent the lever from pulling all the way back... otherwise, it may be air content in your fluid line.. so bleed the clutch through to force out any air and it should crisp up the lever and give you normal clutch operation.! Hope that helps you sir, good luck with it.
@@Moonfleet41 thank you . I will do the steps you advised.
pretty handy process... now how can i tell the wife that it took all day? :) I'll probably try the same method on the ST1300.
Tell her you had to film it buddy... that makes any job take all day lol!!
Great tip there mate. Thank you. Where is the link for that syringe?
In the description mate..first link at the top... but here it is if you can't find it.. www.spanner-monkey.co.uk/oil-and-brake-fluid-inspection-syringe-200ml-120826?search=vs404&description=true
@@Moonfleet41 yeah just saw it. Thanks again mate.
What size ranch did you use after popping out the cover of the slave cylinder to control the fluid going in?
Can you use this method with an ABS brake system? I’ve heard you have to purge the system with the correct software. Is it really necessary?
It depends on the bike mate.
As I understand it, for a HD, if you get ANY air in the line, it has to go to the dealer and be put on the machine. Where I live, it's $120 for the service of having the brakes flushed, and the ABS module reset. When I did my bars on my 16 SGS, I opened a banjo bolt too far, and it had to go in. The brakes function, but they will lock. I've seen videos where people say they can do it, and show you how. That's one of the things I'll let a pro handle. The ABS is too important (to me), and I want to know I didn't muck it up.
Lovely smooth job.
Right tools and right attitude.
If I didn’t work on my bikes myself, I’d want a mechanic who thinks like you.
Just for a change I have a syringe like yours.
Makes up for the fact I can’t buy a set of those Sealey C-Spanners in Australia.
Hi Nick, thank you for those kind words, I appreciate that... I know several Harley techs and they all work with the same care and consideration and have a passion for the bikes but there are of course those that don't, I'm sure, but in my view, taking care of your own bike broadens the pride of ownership and keeps you closer in touch with it's state of health don't you think? And with the C-Spanners, I'm told Sealey operate worldwide shipping, so if you went on their main website and emailed them direct, I'm quite sure they could either ship to you, or arrange supply in some other way through a vendor.
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Thank you.
Does it have to be reverse bled or can you just bleed from the nipple and add from the top?
Yes mate, conventional downward bleeding is fine, works as normal, I'm just being a little 'lazy' and doing it the easy way.
Do you think I can find the clutch slave cylinder and or bleed nipple on my BMW GS. (2019 model) I've a rough idea but hell its buried in there. I think they'll get their £130 out of me. Grrr!
Oh my goodness, proper buried they are.. the closest I've done to that is on a BMW Rockster, took me hours just wrangling parts to get to it..had to unbolt the rear subframe, drop the exhaust off, back wheel out too, easy enough to see it under the air box.. but not so easy to get hands and tools to it.! Good luck with it mate, hope it goes well.
@@Moonfleet41 I've a sneaky feeling if I remove the battery and the battery box I might get access...... but that's how it starts isn't it.
Turn the bars to the right, genius. I never knew that, thank you. I really do appreciate your tips and efforts.
You are so welcome!
Is that Sealey Oil and Brake Fluid Syringe available in the US?
If you contact them directly i believe they will ship world wide or otherwise nominate a US retailer !
I once tried that method on my Sprint ST but the fluid just gushed out between the cable and the adjuster!!! 👍🏻🤗 mind you that's one way to lube it ..😅
Peace and love brother 👍🏻☮♥️
Can't understand why that didn't work brother, i had the same problem with a 600 bandit too ! Take care and keep safe aye.. D&Pxx
@@Moonfleet41
yep those cables were rubbish at holding dot4 !
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I see you had trouble finding a screwdriver in that there drawer Del……..how many 😜
delboy! is this your FLXHS? looks great! come to colorado sometime in the US. Ill take you and ms. P out on some rides. we have a few bikes you can borrow.
Richard, that is too tempting to resist, The Rocky Mountains are legendary, and of course Pike Peak too ! Maybe some day ill get to the bucket list and make it happen. and yes, the Street Glide is ours.
You can still do the leaver pull-in trick to get more of the tiny air bubbles out, but that is less of an issue than the brake side.
Surprised you don’t use a brake fluid tester. Just to know moisture % content. I’m always Curious. Even if I’m changing it
Just ordered one mate, it didn't come in tome for the video... a great tool indeed.
@@Moonfleet41 I’ve had a good color old brake fluid, like yours. With 0% before. Was changed, just no loctit was used. ( same old white factory)
Nice job what cc is that harley
Hey buddy, it's 114ci which is 1868cc ! Are you thinking of coming over to the darkside mate?!
Another cracking video showing people it ain't scary and keeps more of your money in your back pocket. Am I missing something obvious, but I can't see why you removed the bags.
No mechanical reason mate, it just gets habit to drop them off and set them safely out the way any time I work on it, they're so easy to mark and safer out of the way!
VAT ?
"Value Added Tax" ! same as a sales or purchase tax !
@@Moonfleet41 oh ok, we dont call it that here. just sales tax and thats it.
Well done. And saves a lot of money.
Interesting noise: I've never had a squeal of the hydraulic clutch of my Triumph Trident 900 (MY 1991). Nor on a rented KTM Freeride 350. All my others bikes are operated by cablem though. Might be a Harley thing.
Cheers from Günter/Nürnberg/Germany
That is going to save a lot of folks a lot of money, thanks, lovely work as usual :)
You bet Tony, hope it helps everyone. Good to hear from you mate.
We’re not allowed to say "slave cylinder" in America because it might offend some minority cylinders.
It's like watching a surgeon at work Del.
Nice little maintenance job.
Nick Australia
Thank so much Nick, glad you enjoyed it mate.
So is that your street glide m8......?.....my apologies its been awhile since I've watched you tube Del...
Hi mate, welcome back, yes it's my bike. !
Thanks for responding back man!
Hi mate, you made excellent video on bleeding the brakes on a Bonneville. My Street Twin has ABS, is the procedure still the same ? Once again thank you for your outstanding efforts 👌