Camaro SS 1LE vs Mustang GT Performance Pack: Muscle Cars Turned Sports Cars

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  • čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
  • Does it get any more iconic than this? 2018 Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE vs. Ford Mustang GT Performance Pack. Both cost about $50K, both have excellent, naturally-aspirated V8 engines paired with 6-speed manual transmissions, and both have track-inspired performance upgrades. Oh, and did I mention that it's a Camaro SS battling a Mustang GT? C'mon, it doesn't get any better than this!
    So, does the less extreme Mustang Performance Pack 1 (not the crazier Performance Pack 2, which was unavailable for testing) have what takes to keep up with the Chevy? One way to find out...
    #camaro #mustang #musclecar
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Komentáře • 359

  • @stringsattached67
    @stringsattached67 Před 2 lety +7

    Old video I know but I just traded my 16 mustang GT m6 which was my baby for a 16 Camaro SS 2SS and it's now my favorite car I've owned in my 37 years of driving and I've had a slew of cars ..

    • @DriveBreakFixRepeat
      @DriveBreakFixRepeat  Před 2 lety +3

      Pinning this comment for the butthurt Ford fanbois in the comments 😂😂😂

    • @stringsattached67
      @stringsattached67 Před 2 lety +1

      @@DriveBreakFixRepeat well the truth hurts sometimes

  • @eddiet204
    @eddiet204 Před 4 lety +31

    As a lifelong Mustang owner, I drove a 6th Gen Camaro 1LE knew instantly that it was hands down better than any Mustang I’ve driven, including the mighty Shelby. Nothing drove cars so well in all performance metrics for so little money.The Mustang is old school and drives old school. As a road/track car, the 1LE is the cats meow.

    • @RCXDerp
      @RCXDerp Před 3 lety +2

      Liar a shelby cobra is 10x the car any Chevy will be, and I own a corvette.

    • @officialtjtrev8910
      @officialtjtrev8910 Před 3 lety +2

      Biggest lie i ever read lmfao even the 10 speed stock is faster than the 1le

    • @angelcabrera2964
      @angelcabrera2964 Před 3 lety

      @@officialtjtrev8910 maybe in a straight line but it all depends on the driver, around a track the 1le is faster

    • @officialtjtrev8910
      @officialtjtrev8910 Před 3 lety

      @@angelcabrera2964 well yea a car made for the track is gonna beat a non track car but most races are on the street

    • @mr.b1865
      @mr.b1865 Před 2 lety

      @@officialtjtrev8910 it's not faster in the 8th or the quarter. Almost every test I've seen has the camaro running a 12.3-12.4 and the mustang 12.5-12.6. Basically it would be determined by the driver. From what I've seen the camaro is better driving, but the mustang is more practical for day to day driving because of the view. I'm going to drive both this weekend, so we'll see how it goes.

  • @DaLizMs
    @DaLizMs Před 4 lety +23

    Love my 1SS 1LE 2018. Makes cloudy days sunny.

  • @mrhrobinson
    @mrhrobinson Před 5 lety +36

    Why all of the negativity? He gave his honest opinion as he saw it. But i have watched and read multiple videos on this comparison and the PP1 loses every time and i doubt if the PP2 will fare much better. Truth be told, as we speak, GM stands as one of the greatest chassis/suspension/drivetrain engineers of recent decades. Especially for the price and what you get.

  • @ismaelreyes2222
    @ismaelreyes2222 Před 5 lety +61

    I came to see all the butthurt mustang fan boy comments lmaoo

    • @DriveBreakFixRepeat
      @DriveBreakFixRepeat  Před 5 lety +6

      You came to the right place. Now, if Ford wants to supply a Performance Pack 2, or a GT350, I'd be happy to reconsider things. :)

    • @dominicsosa7405
      @dominicsosa7405 Před 5 lety +3

      take a mustang over a sllloooomaro.. if camaro had 5.0 it cant compete period. .if mustang was 6.2 it would have 770 hp

    • @DriveBreakFixRepeat
      @DriveBreakFixRepeat  Před 5 lety

      @Pharoah Monk If Ford would supply one, I'm down. I have no skin in the game, either way.

    • @bmwmike3534
      @bmwmike3534 Před 4 lety +9

      @@dominicsosa7405 slowmaro? How original. The 1LE literally rapes the 5.0 around a road course. In fact, there are many cars above 80k that the 1LE destroys around the track. The 5.0 only destroys crowds of people 😂😂😂

    • @dominicsosa7405
      @dominicsosa7405 Před 4 lety +1

      so good they arent going to make it anymore .......and gm never can comoete w a 5.0 ....never have never will 6.2 pshhhhhhh hahaha...

  • @gherasimtibi
    @gherasimtibi Před 5 lety +38

    im in europe right now on vacation and the only thing i miss is my 1LE

    • @dizzik6751
      @dizzik6751 Před 4 lety +1

      BigTymin i feel your pain man, idk if i can spend a day without mines too

  • @shaunjumawan9496
    @shaunjumawan9496 Před 5 lety +12

    i bought a 2018 1LE and couldn't be any happier

  • @jdmercard
    @jdmercard Před 5 lety +19

    Yep! I just bought a 2SS 1LE and my god! It's hard to even call it a Camaro. It's in a league of it's own and frequently called the best Camaro ever made.

    • @Meanthonyv
      @Meanthonyv Před 4 lety +1

      Post a pic. Liar

    • @mob4336
      @mob4336 Před 4 lety +1

      Yeah I agree feels almost like a super car

  • @Jahcrooks
    @Jahcrooks Před 5 lety +12

    The smile on your face when driving the Chevy says it all.

    • @younodamright
      @younodamright Před 4 lety +2

      And there it is... It's all about the fun factor!

  • @anthonycosta2312
    @anthonycosta2312 Před 5 lety +40

    chevy makes a better car period , The mustang is a beautiful car the camaro is just better in all respect.

    • @imbrandon16
      @imbrandon16 Před 4 lety +1

      mustangs faster stock.

    • @bmwmike3534
      @bmwmike3534 Před 4 lety +8

      @@imbrandon16 no, it is not, and it is not even close. The 1LE runs CIRCLES around the mustang around a racetrack. The 1LE is MADE for the road course. It is not a 1/4 mile car. The standard SS however is a 1/4 mile car and the cars are virtually dead even. The camaro runs a 12.1 stock and the 5.0 runs a 12.2 stock. Its a drivers race. The 1LE however and the pp1 /pp2 are ment for the roadcourse and the mustang just cant hang

    • @imbrandon16
      @imbrandon16 Před 4 lety +1

      @@bmwmike3534 Then explain how every video of the 6th Gen SS camaros, both Auto & Manual are getting fucked up by 5.0 mustangs in the top end stock vs stock? The camaro gets it off the line, about 5 seconds later that 5.0 is slow walking the camaro... VIDEO PROOF DON"T LIE, and that's the outcome i've been seeing repeatedly on you-tube, time after time! look it up for yourself right now, don't just take my word for it! I like Camaros, I plan on getting a brand new SS around Christmas time this year, I'm not a mustang fanboy at all, However I do think the new ones look fucking sick as hell, I Seen a vid of the new 2020 Shelby and I about dropped a load in my pants, that car's fucking beautiful.

    • @imbrandon16
      @imbrandon16 Před 4 lety +3

      @@bmwmike3534 Drag racing of course, I know the 1LE is a bad mother fucker on a circuit type track however in a straight line i've heard its slightly slower than the base 1SS/2SS, I was never really into circuit type racing until I bought an NB Miata and found out just how fun hauling ass through curves is XD not like on my CBR1000 Where i'm white knuckled and thinking any corner could be the one that kills me XD

    • @taylorc2542
      @taylorc2542 Před 4 lety +5

      GM has better chassis engineers right now.

  • @DriveBreakFixRepeat
    @DriveBreakFixRepeat  Před 5 lety +4

    Want to see more of the Camaro SS 1LE and Mustang GT Performance Pack? Check out the review here: ls1tech.com/articles/camaro-ss-1le-vs-mustang-gt-performance-pack-drive-review/

  • @mike98ws666
    @mike98ws666 Před 4 lety +8

    I drove a PP1 and a PP2 Mustang. I almost bought the PP2. It was impressive. I ended up buying a 2018 Camaro 2SS 1LE. I’m really glad I bought it. It’s a beast of a car. It drives a lot better to me. It’s also an easier car to drive at the track.

  • @dizzik6751
    @dizzik6751 Před 4 lety +8

    This guy deserves a check from Chevy for real. His reaction towards the camero is priceless and it only makes me love my 2ss more and more

  • @danny996
    @danny996 Před 4 lety +11

    the ss 1le is amazing.

  • @theplayernkc
    @theplayernkc Před 5 lety +15

    SS 1LE all the way and in my favorite color...silver!

  • @jasonscism9286
    @jasonscism9286 Před 2 lety +4

    Just bought a 2021 SS 1LE 2 weeks ago. Absolutely love it! Sold my 21-challenger scat pack, I loved that car too, really nice riding and fast. The Camaro is just a different car altogether really, the handling is incredible, so is the speed and power. Biggest difference is the ability to hook up on takeoff, the Camaro flies, sounds awesome too. My cousin has a Mustang GT pp1 and it's an awesome car too. So little difference, just buy the one you like the best. Neither is better than the other. If anything, we should all feel blessed to even be able to have such cars.

  • @timmyr345
    @timmyr345 Před 6 lety +22

    Just found your video today and enjoyed it, but I am a Chevy guy so your enthusiasm for the Camaro wasn't as bothersome to me :) I am buying a 2019 SS1LE in the Spring and look forward to driving the wheels off of it. I'm guessing this was a test of the 2SS1LE at that price point. The 1SS1LE can be found for sub $44,000.00 and is a huge bargain for such an incredible sports car. Keep the rubber side down.

    • @davecabansay8965
      @davecabansay8965 Před 5 lety +1

      I was able to get my 2SS 1LE for $38k USD. You can get them for a lot cheaper if you wait near the end of the year!

    • @Jiggywey
      @Jiggywey Před 4 lety

      Congrats on that beautiful camaro

    • @swanlass1
      @swanlass1 Před 4 lety

      @@davecabansay8965 new?

  • @amiller2121
    @amiller2121 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I've watched a lot of comparison videos on these two cars, and this one is one of the highest quality I've come across.

  • @JoeyBurnsRed
    @JoeyBurnsRed Před 5 lety +9

    This review is on point planning to switch from a 17 gt to a 1le

  • @JDGillis
    @JDGillis Před 5 lety +8

    It appears that while Ford concentrated on making the Mustang's exhaust very loud, GM concentrated on the Camaro's handling and overall performance, which is why the Camaro SS 1LE continues to dominate the Mustang GT, PP1 and PP2.

    • @Tusuperbis
      @Tusuperbis Před 4 lety

      I was told that corsa made the cat back system for GM on the ss camaros and corvettes.

    • @thefitnesslife4988
      @thefitnesslife4988 Před 3 lety +2

      Then why is it being discontinued again if its doing so well?

    • @RCXDerp
      @RCXDerp Před 3 lety

      @@thefitnesslife4988 Tell em boi

  • @markjones5432
    @markjones5432 Před 3 lety +2

    I drove both these cars and immediately bought the camero 1 LE. Puts a smile on my face every time I drive it!! It begs you to drive fast !! Go get one now!!

  • @matrox
    @matrox Před 4 lety +15

    I test drove both cars. Ended up getting a 17' SS Camaro 6 speed stick. That was 33k miles ago. Its my Daily Driver...I love driving that car.🤤😛 Chevy is running the America made Tremec 6060 trans🥴. Ford running the Chinese made Getrag transmission🤢. Shame on you Ford!😱😩

    • @skipgumphrey9579
      @skipgumphrey9579 Před 3 lety

      I was reading through to see if anyone would mention this. I’m a Ford guy in general and daily drive a lightly modded 19 GT premium with the 10A and PP1. It’s my 30th Mustang and I’d be the first to say that the MT82 is JUNK ! There’s a reason Ford had the Tremec in the GT350 and now the new Mach I.
      It’s like when Chevy went from the 4L80 to the 10 speed. Chevy got the track handling spot on as well. My preference is the Stang, but that Camaro is certainly no joke, especially on a track where the 1LE package bruises egos !

    • @RCXDerp
      @RCXDerp Před 3 lety

      What are you smoking? The Camaro trans is a 3160 made in Mexico.

    • @matrox
      @matrox Před 3 lety

      @@RCXDerp Camaro Tremec 6060

    • @matrox
      @matrox Před 3 lety

      @@RCXDerp The last time I looked Mexico was part of North America.

  • @quickdubbs328
    @quickdubbs328 Před 4 lety +10

    I've driven a pp2 mustang! Still can't touch the ss 1le!!

  • @RCbashingtheKRATON
    @RCbashingtheKRATON Před 5 lety +4

    I need one too..got to love the 1le

  • @matrox
    @matrox Před 4 lety +3

    To the Mustangs credit...my understanding is the Mustang will pull on the Camaro in a 1/2 mile race do to its 7500 RPM opposed to Camaros 6200 RPM. 🤔

    • @GrimSRT8
      @GrimSRT8 Před rokem

      If straight line stuff is your thing, you don’t buy a 1LE Camaro.

  • @spracker8
    @spracker8 Před 5 lety +3

    Don’t think you can go wrong with either car, or the Challenger for that matter, what a time to be alive

    • @DriveBreakFixRepeat
      @DriveBreakFixRepeat  Před 5 lety +1

      Ultimately agree with this. It's amazing how much car you can buy for under $50k these days.

  • @josephburroughs6139
    @josephburroughs6139 Před 6 lety +6

    Excellent video I have a 2018 Chevy SS 1le and my brother has 2018 Mustang GT performance Pack 1 we still haven't had time to go to Angeles Crest to test them out yet I keep telling him I feel the control more in mine then in his but he's not a Believer yet..lol

    • @DriveBreakFixRepeat
      @DriveBreakFixRepeat  Před 6 lety +2

      Both are really fun, but in totally different ways. Try not to leave him too far back in the dust. ;)

    • @CoyoteFTW
      @CoyoteFTW Před 6 lety

      Jake Stumph - Mustang PP2 a whole second faster than that ss 1le on VIR. Now I know why you chose to bring the PP1 lol

    • @dougfa3515
      @dougfa3515 Před 5 lety +1

      LOL, I hope he avoids the " dark side"... aka Camaro fandom. j/k

    • @1compaqedr8
      @1compaqedr8 Před 5 lety

      Joseph Burroughs any update on comparing the cars.

    • @bmwmike3534
      @bmwmike3534 Před 4 lety

      Any updates yet? Lol

  • @robfsociety4670
    @robfsociety4670 Před 5 lety +5

    Great video! I agree fully the Camaro is the better one!

  • @petoria300
    @petoria300 Před 4 lety +2

    As a lifelong ford guy, Ive decided to take my talents to a chevy 1le

    • @bman99ss
      @bman99ss Před 3 lety

      Lol. I see what you did there . . .

  • @mattjones1378
    @mattjones1378 Před 5 lety +6

    Did you hear the mustang at idle at the beginning of the video, it had the typewriter tick.

  • @matrox
    @matrox Před 3 lety +3

    The camaro is a great car, I have a 17' SS 6 speed, yet GM never advertises it. How TF will the average Joe know the qualities if GM doesn't promo its own product?

  • @SPECIESUNKN0WN
    @SPECIESUNKN0WN Před 2 lety +1

    I test drove that exact Camaro yesterday. I was on the fence…I don’t need it, but NA V8 MT muscle cars aren’t going to be around forever. Your reactions to driving the Camaro sold me. Might as well have the pinnacle.

    • @DriveBreakFixRepeat
      @DriveBreakFixRepeat  Před 2 lety +1

      Even a few years down the road, this video and the SS 1LE are one of the vehicles I get asked about/talk about the most. It's just so damn good.

  • @dimitrikhomyak7686
    @dimitrikhomyak7686 Před 5 lety +1

    Why are there so many Ford fanboys complaining in these comments. As someone who is not a brand follower, the Mustang is what actually drew my attention to the pony cars. It's a better looking vehicle and easier to live with, for sure. But as far as a legitimate sports car, there's no comparison. That's why Chevy won me over and I am now a 1LE owner. Don't complain here, go complain to Ford to build a better Mustang.

  • @pressendforspanish
    @pressendforspanish Před 3 lety

    Talks about how fast he's going in the Camaro while the mini van with the camera is right on his ass. Lmao!

    • @DriveBreakFixRepeat
      @DriveBreakFixRepeat  Před 3 lety

      It's b-roll. I'm a faster driver than everyone in this comment section, and that includes you.

  • @matrox
    @matrox Před 3 lety +1

    Ford Performance Pack 1 is a step behind the Camaro SS with Magnaride, the Ford Performance pack 2 is a step behind the Camaro SS 1LE in my opinion. Correct me if I'm wrong.

  • @StirlingMossDrives
    @StirlingMossDrives Před 4 lety +1

    Recently test drove a 2020 mustang gt stripped out interior for with pp1 for 44k. Got my 2019 2ss 1le ss fully loaded discounted for 43k. Absolute steal and It’s sooo much better than the mustang.

  • @mesutyilmaz2831
    @mesutyilmaz2831 Před 5 lety +4

    Iam from Germany and our cars drives excenlent in corners this is very important and the 1le can drive german roads very well!!!! The Mustang is to heavy

  • @jchors2947
    @jchors2947 Před 5 lety +4

    Chevy got it right first time out of the box. Ford pee pee'd a few times to catch up, but at least they sounded good.

  • @keevinnorton4724
    @keevinnorton4724 Před 5 lety +7

    If the Camaro is so good why have sells been going down every year...dodge and ford are selling way more vehicles😳

    • @justinleuropa
      @justinleuropa Před 5 lety +4

      keevin norton it’s the more expensive vehicle and tbh the mustang is the better everyday vehicle do to ergonomics... but the camaro has it beat in the performance category... Mustang is way less aggressive...

    • @toddjohnson7133
      @toddjohnson7133 Před 5 lety +1

      Because the 7/8 scale that team Camaro brought the car in at to save weight really compromised the utility of the car. Windows got smashed even more than the previous generation and interior is still an absolute wreck regardless of what his guy says. An S550 or Challenger is a much more friendly daily driver. Then there is the looks of the car. The Ford and the Mopar just look much better. The Camaro looks like what i would have picked to drive to prom when I was 16.

    • @ChaosAttractor13
      @ChaosAttractor13 Před 5 lety +1

      They are giving away Mustangs and Challengers with great deals. Try to make a deal on a Camaro, forget it. They will not even tint the windows for free. However, I love my 2019 2SS automatic. The Mustangs and Challengers I have raced have all been easily beaten. I adore my Camaro. It’s a great daily driver too. It rides just as good as my Mercedes C-Class. You cannot beat this car. Get one for yourself and be king of the road. Side note, I beat a Z06, but only because it had too much power and could not get his wheels to stick. He was all over the road.

    • @ChaosAttractor13
      @ChaosAttractor13 Před 5 lety +2

      Todd is very very wrong. I thoroughly test drove all three for 2 weeks before making my decision. The Camaro was the clear winner in every aspect.

    • @toddjohnson7133
      @toddjohnson7133 Před 5 lety +1

      @@ChaosAttractor13 No. I'm actually not. I am very very familiar with both of the current platforms. I also drove both the Camaro and the Mustang extensively before I purchased. The Mopar was not driven because of prior expirience with quality problems with a Jeep. The Camaro is an ergonomic mess for anyone of size. Granted I am a larger person than most at 6' 4" and 200 lbs+ but even journalists of average size come full circle once they get done praising the chassis. GM forgot that a person gets in this thing and operates it. As a far as style goes...well that's opinion but here is a fact. The mustang has by far the largest aftermarket for both the vehicle and the Coyote motor. Sites such as CJPonyParts, LMR and AmericanMuscle all cater to the 3 current muscle cars. The mustang is over 75% of their business. There is one other thing that most tests fail to point out although he mentions it here... that is one of the main performance points to be clear about every time they test a 1LE. The car has 12"+ wide rear tires and 10 1/2" wide front tires and track compound. Most supercars do not put this much rubber to the ground. Of coarse this car is going to turn and stop like a monster. There is a lot of good about the Camaro but there is to much bad and consumers are voting with their purchases. If GM does not solve this problem soon we will have another Camaro death. I DO NOT WANT TO SEE THAT. But I'm telling you...they have to get serious about making a car that men can comfortably drive and see out of and has a decent interior and they are going to have to hit upon a decent styling theme because what they have right now is just not working.

  • @phoenix6064
    @phoenix6064 Před 5 lety +2

    Camaro brakes are much larger? The 1le brakes are 14.6in vs the mustangs 15in brakes. Do the camaro brakes really feel that much better?

    • @motoant7055
      @motoant7055 Před 5 lety +1

      Brakes are only as good as the tires, which the camaro has much more of

    • @GrimSRT8
      @GrimSRT8 Před rokem

      The Camaro had 6-piston Monoblock Brembos up front and 4-piston Bembos in the back. The Mustang PP1 only gets 4-piston Brembos up front. The Camaro has **WAY** better brakes. These are the same brakes that you find on a ZL1 1LE.

    • @phoenix6064
      @phoenix6064 Před rokem

      @@GrimSRT8 PP1 also get 6-piston brembos, with larger rotors. The mustang has better brakes.

    • @GrimSRT8
      @GrimSRT8 Před rokem

      @@phoenix6064 OK you’re correct the Mustang gets Brembo front brakes. Now go compare stopping distance from any magazine. I don’t have the time to research it now, but the Camaro brakes are superior. The stopping distances are shorter. The Camaro is the better car for performance driving period, unless you buy a Mach-1 with the handling package.
      This is coming from a “Ford guy” who sold his Focus RS and got the Camaro 1LE. The Mustang just doesn’t offer nearly the performance for the money. There is really no comparison. I understand that the Mustang might be the better daily driver, but the Challenger is even better in that role. I wanted the top performing car I could buy for $50K, and the SS 1LE is unbeatable at that price point.

    • @phoenix6064
      @phoenix6064 Před rokem

      @@GrimSRT8 Tires, CG, suspension geometry, and ABS dictate stopping distance. I own both cars, and I would say the camaro has better CG and better stock pads. With the same pads, and same tires, the mustang brakes stop better for longer. Can't beat the physics of larger rotors.

  • @quickdubbs328
    @quickdubbs328 Před 4 lety +1

    The Camaro, is the closes sound of the Trans Am!

  • @thegeneral8133
    @thegeneral8133 Před 5 lety +1

    Okay, Motor Trend one of the most respected, authentic car magazines, and automobile afficianidos on the planet tested the GT PP1 and 2 against the SS 1LE.. I ltruly love both cars.. However, the Mustang top end was faster in a mile race, sounded better, and had better interior. But still was not faster 0 to 60, or in the quarter mile, the SS 1LE time on the track at Willow Springs.. or handled better than the SS 1LE .It was light years better than the PP1 but the Camaro SS 1LE got the slight edge until further testing they announced..

  • @jayelbee1111
    @jayelbee1111 Před 4 lety

    There is nothing better than hearing the sound of rumble exhaust, driving a normally aspirated, manual shifting, American muscle V-8 pony car on a winding road in the mountains.😎👍I'll take either Mustang or Camaro!!!

  • @shawnjenkins1386
    @shawnjenkins1386 Před 6 lety +17

    I Know everyone keeps saying bring out the PP2 against the 1LE it has been done the 1lE is still faster. The PP2 is not a track package you can not continually lap the mustang due to over heating issues.

    • @CoyoteFTW
      @CoyoteFTW Před 6 lety +3

      Shawn Jenkins - Camaro won by like
      .23 not much at all! The mustang gt 10 speed does 0-60 in 3.9 sec

    • @shawnjenkins1386
      @shawnjenkins1386 Před 6 lety +3

      @@CoyoteFTW I know what your saying but we are comparing manual track pack cars and the truth of it is the 1LE can run lap after lap at that speed and the mustang can't due to over heating issues, the only way the mustang can run laps with the 1LE is to step up to the GT 350 which has all the necessary coolers installed to actually be able to run more than a couple of laps around the track.

    • @CoyoteFTW
      @CoyoteFTW Před 6 lety +3

      Shawn Jenkins - actually Camaro was a second slower against the Mustang at VIR.
      If someone is planning on tracking the pp2 Im sure they will add the extra cooling necessary.

    • @6ixspeedstang186
      @6ixspeedstang186 Před 6 lety +3

      Shawn Jenkins no doubt the camaro is STILL better around the track. It really doesn't matter to me which one is faster around the track. I've looked at both cars and sometimes I wonder if I should have picked the SS 1LE but it really has nothing to do with the track. I just think the 1LE has more for the money. Front and rear brembos, wider wheel and tire set until the PP2 came out, recaros standard, an alcantara flatbottom steering wheel, and a tremec 6speed. If Ford could have offered recaros standard and front rear brembos then I would feel better about it. Price was the main difference. I got my PP1 manual for 33k. No shot in hell I get a SS 1LE for that price. I still love my mustang. I really go back and forth between the 5.0, scatpack, and ss 1LE (because if I got a camaro it would have to be the 1LE). I've yet to see a PP2 in person but I'm sure had that came out when the PP1 came out I would have waited and possibly went that way. Still the PP2 is in the used Shelby gt350 price range at nearly 50k. So at the end of the day I probably should have just went with a used Shelby.

    • @shawnjenkins1386
      @shawnjenkins1386 Před 6 lety +1

      @@CoyoteFTW yea I'm sure they will but we're talking about the way it came from the factory we can always add stuff and make it better or faster .

  • @Linknelson
    @Linknelson Před 3 lety

    The reaction in the GT vs the 1LE from this video explains it all

  • @dogdaybreak3157
    @dogdaybreak3157 Před 6 lety +2

    The 3.73 gearing on the Mustang is "long gearing"? Is this guy nuts? It's short as hell gears.

    • @FATmenDRIVEtrucks
      @FATmenDRIVEtrucks Před 6 lety

      For 2018 ford changed gearing in transmission it's longer

  • @tzwc3571
    @tzwc3571 Před 5 lety +2

    Lots of the techs are from the corvette design into the Camaro.

  • @threehemis5566
    @threehemis5566 Před 5 lety +1

    I would have liked to see you compare the PP2 GT. I think that would have been a better comparison. I'm currently looking at both cars. Not a fan of the PP1 as I hate those particular black wheels but I like that Ford gives a cheaper option. I'd like to take out the PP2 and see what that's like. Note that I took out a brand new 1LE and the complete gauge cluster was a no show. Nothing worked other than low fuel light.

  • @dans4551
    @dans4551 Před 2 lety

    It's funny that as much as stuff has changed over the decades, the differences you are describing sound very similar going from the 4th gen SS LS1 vs GT/Cobra, to the 5th gen, and now to the 6th gen. Ergonomics, handling, engine, trans, composure at the limit, etc.

  • @bobbywilliams1823
    @bobbywilliams1823 Před 3 lety

    Went from an 18PP1 to a 21 1LE. They're both great cars, but the Chevy is on another level. If they were to compete they'd be in different classes.

  • @quickdubbs328
    @quickdubbs328 Před 4 lety +1

    Easily, fall hard in love with the camaro ss 1le!!

  • @blackice7408
    @blackice7408 Před 4 lety +1

    9:00 the mustang kinda sounds like the 2019+ charger/challenger rt when its down-revving

  • @avellouswash6260
    @avellouswash6260 Před 4 lety

    Man what an awesome review... I had never considered a camaro until a few weeks ago now I'm hooked...will by a camaro ss 1le next month...now trying to consider new or used...lol Thanks for the review and subscribed

  • @Meanthonyv
    @Meanthonyv Před 4 lety +1

    Camaro ss 1le is just a better car period. Mustang didnt catch my attention at all. Didnt even want to test drive one before buying my 2018 1le.

  • @stevenlukowski562
    @stevenlukowski562 Před 2 lety

    HAD BOTH CARS, ABSOLUTELY LOVED MY 2017 MUSTANG GT, BUT HE'S RIGHT, MY 17 1LE HANDS DOWN IS MY FAVORITE CAR, HENSE, HAD BOTH CARS, NOW 1 CAR.👍

  • @jameswashington8637
    @jameswashington8637 Před 2 lety

    I get what you're saying about missing gears. But in my 2013 mustang GT track package, I would constantly get locked out of second gear in normal light to light racing.I thought it was me. Then I learned that mustangs did it to professional drivers. Any how. Getting my 1LE next month. Your video is awesome thanks for your research!!!

  • @christianeshelman8195
    @christianeshelman8195 Před 5 lety

    Not sure why all the hate in the comments. If you drive them both, he’s spot on. The Camaro is more comfortable and feels more refined. Both are fun to drive, but the Camaro is just the best for driver experience. That’s why I bought one. He’s spot on. Don’t hate him for being honest.

  • @boss4330
    @boss4330 Před 5 lety +7

    This is not a comparison. Straight Chevy advertisement.

    • @DriveBreakFixRepeat
      @DriveBreakFixRepeat  Před 5 lety +6

      Really hope the check from GM comes in soon for this ad...I mean...fair comparison video I made.

    • @zed8083
      @zed8083 Před 5 lety

      Being a Chevy guy here, that definitely WAS NOT a fair comparison video. It most definitely WAS a Chevy ad. Plus your jerk comment just cemented the deal. And ya, your cheque, not "check" will be coming from Chevy guaranteed, you arrogant shit stain. You won't make 10k subs with bullshit reviews like this one! LMAO!! Dick

  • @TLricks
    @TLricks Před 6 lety +3

    👍

  • @christopheravila9849
    @christopheravila9849 Před 5 lety +10

    This wasn’t a comparison video between the two cars, all you basically did was bag on the Mustang 😂

  • @mmholling87
    @mmholling87 Před 5 lety +1

    GM just out engineered Ford. Even Gm haters are singing the praises of the 1LE. GM hired the top European chassis engineer for this generation of Camaro. The 1LE is head and shoulders above the mustang, it’s in super car territory when you add the ZL1 package.

    • @DriveBreakFixRepeat
      @DriveBreakFixRepeat  Před 5 lety +1

      People get mad, but it's the truth. Camaro SS 1LE is genuinely one of the best driving cars I have ever experienced, at any price point. Everyone I put behind the wheel agreed. It's magic. Now, they just have to work on the outward visibility and the heft...

  • @ExtinctSS
    @ExtinctSS Před 3 lety

    I love my 21 1SS 1LE, it sticks to the road, it's a joy to drive. What a fucking car.

  • @joshfernandezthediycarguy443

    Love the review man, gonna save my pennies for that 1LE package

  • @Eklectic1
    @Eklectic1 Před 4 lety +1

    Mustang GT PP1 - a hair-pulling screaming shoving match.
    Camaro SS 1LE = an upper-cut infested full on bar room brawl.

  • @USGovsOwnersRtheRealEnemy

    I had to sub up because of the awesome handle. Great video

  • @Coyote.five.0
    @Coyote.five.0 Před 5 lety

    so you prefer to look at the hood while your driving rather than the actual road on the mustang thats what your saying ?

  • @ryanlett1338
    @ryanlett1338 Před 5 lety +4

    Good review Jake. I recently traded my 2017 GT350 for a 2018 Camaro 1LE.
    The 1LE is a much better car in terms of performance, drivability and most importantly durability.

    • @xmunitrader
      @xmunitrader Před 5 lety

      really?? That's a very bold statement Im considering the 2019 1LE and I would love to hear more about the differences.. Have you posted a Vlog pointing out what you stated above?

    • @ryanlett1338
      @ryanlett1338 Před 5 lety

      I haven’t yet, but will soon

    • @xmunitrader
      @xmunitrader Před 5 lety

      Ryan Lett awesome. Really interested in what you have to say Thx

    • @keevinnorton4724
      @keevinnorton4724 Před 5 lety +1

      The GT350 will actually be worth something in ten years....1le 1ssle 1less whatever they are won't be worth shit

    • @careyjwelsh
      @careyjwelsh Před 5 lety

      GT350 is a special car. The 1LE is a just another friggin' camaro.

  • @PuRpL3DrAnKinMYsippy
    @PuRpL3DrAnKinMYsippy Před 5 lety

    The s550 stangs sound amazing 😍😍😍

  • @212helpdesk
    @212helpdesk Před 5 měsíci

    If Chevy would have raised the roof line maybe and inch or two for more head room maybe they would still be in production like the mustang. Someday, maybe, I will own a Camaro ZL1. Have Stang '19 GT now but did have z-28 back in 1998 that I luv'ed.

  • @jordankelly4684
    @jordankelly4684 Před 3 lety

    They're still muscle cars. Just cause they can turn now doesn't make them any less of a muscle car.

  • @lesthegreat
    @lesthegreat Před 6 lety

    Wait till Darth presses his little red button

  • @mustangmarty8491
    @mustangmarty8491 Před 4 lety

    I haven't even watched ur video yet, but from what i hear you want the Mustang pp2. Now I'll watch ur video.🇺🇸

  • @camaro69green31
    @camaro69green31 Před 4 lety +1

    Nice! Loved this vid.

  • @R1carib
    @R1carib Před 5 lety +2

    Camaro is a muscle car the Ford is a pony
    The Ford has electronic noise inhibitors
    It’s like taking a girl home that’s wearing a wig and she’s bald

  • @CoyoteFTW
    @CoyoteFTW Před 6 lety +7

    Chevy lover ?

    • @spracker8
      @spracker8 Před 5 lety +1

      leeleelee Fanboy?

    • @alpacino1685
      @alpacino1685 Před 5 lety +1

      Unbiased review? Please ! I was laughing the whole time . And would be nice to compare apples to apples like Ss 1le and PP2 which according to Lighting Lap times is close, PP faster by second .

  • @CoCo-Philly
    @CoCo-Philly Před 4 lety

    I know this maybe muscle car blasphemy but the new 2021 ss 1le will be available in a 10 speed automatic later this year.

  • @alecgriswold6440
    @alecgriswold6440 Před 5 lety

    How does a high compression dohc motor sound like a ohv pushrod???? This dude is nuts. The new 5.0 doesn't sound remotely close to the "old school" motors

  • @MWARDEM
    @MWARDEM Před 3 lety

    I see people saying they got a 1le for similiar or cheaper price then a mustang gt pp1.... I guess it depends on where you live but a 1le is like 12-15k MORE then a gt pp1 where I am...

  • @shibshark8036
    @shibshark8036 Před 3 lety

    The number 1 upgrade they need to do on these cars is put them on a diet.

  • @tezd2200
    @tezd2200 Před 5 lety

    If I could combine all 3 I'd have the size of the challenger, body of the camaro and name/internals of the mustang I'd be a happy camper. In reality I'd take the Camaro preferably 2016 ss and up

  • @officialtjtrev8910
    @officialtjtrev8910 Před 3 lety +1

    On the track of course a car made for the track will beat the mustang. But in a 1/4 or straight line where most street races take place. The 10 speed 5.0 pulls on the 1le. The top end is too much for camaros to handle

    • @GrimSRT8
      @GrimSRT8 Před rokem

      You’re right. Beyond the 1/4 mile, the Mustang has the advantage. But who really races on the street at 115+ MPH? I sure don’t! I do also agree that if you get a Mustang, you need to get the A10. The Getrag 6-speed is garbage. You need to buy a Mach-1 to get a decent 6-speed in the Mustang.

  • @quickdubbs328
    @quickdubbs328 Před 4 lety

    I just don't hear the growl, of the fox body 5.0's or 93-96 svt cobras!

  • @guillermopacheco5005
    @guillermopacheco5005 Před 5 lety +3

    PP1 with 10speed 🔥🔥

  • @gherasimtibi
    @gherasimtibi Před 5 lety

    when doing the video, its best to face away from the sun, that way there is no haze and we are not being blinded 😉

  • @D-Man_Jam
    @D-Man_Jam Před 5 lety +3

    Man, the SS 1LE is so good, you can put it up against a GT350 R.

  • @BodyEdgeFitness
    @BodyEdgeFitness Před 5 lety

    You’re not heel toe shifting, you’re using rev match bud. Don’t say dumb shit to try and be something you’re not.

  • @terminalarray1047
    @terminalarray1047 Před 4 lety

    Great review

  • @thedonhandon3666
    @thedonhandon3666 Před 4 lety

    Drives in normal mode
    Smart reviewer

  • @KevinRaghunandan
    @KevinRaghunandan Před 6 lety +6

    You should have done the 2018 mustang performance pack 2 vs the newer 2018 camaro 1le . This video is not a fair comparison

    • @DriveBreakFixRepeat
      @DriveBreakFixRepeat  Před 6 lety +5

      A Performance Pack 2 was requested, but it ended up not being available for the test. We have to work with what we get.

    • @MikeSuma831
      @MikeSuma831 Před 5 lety +2

      Outcome will still be the same

    • @johnpapadopoulos7639
      @johnpapadopoulos7639 Před 5 lety +3

      You will just spend even more $$ on the pp2 and still be behind the Camaro

    • @thefitnesslife4988
      @thefitnesslife4988 Před 5 lety

      Whats different about the pp2 besides the bigger wheels and only coming in manual? It's the same performance.

    • @1compaqedr8
      @1compaqedr8 Před 5 lety

      The Fitness Life +magnetic suspension

  • @al151
    @al151 Před 5 lety +2

    Wrong information at 4:30! Mustang has short really really short gearing compared to the camaro. 2nd gear goes barely above 62 mph.

  • @blackdot1128
    @blackdot1128 Před 5 lety

    Would you ever review the gt350? I’d be curious to see how that does compared to the Camaro.

    • @DriveBreakFixRepeat
      @DriveBreakFixRepeat  Před 5 lety

      If Ford will throw me the keys.

    • @blackdot1128
      @blackdot1128 Před 5 lety

      Jake Stumph fair enough. You got a solid following. I wouldn’t be surprised if one of your subscribers wouldn’t let your drive one! Got a 2019 GT and I Regret not buying a Shelby. It’s epic. All truth/no hype.

    • @DriveBreakFixRepeat
      @DriveBreakFixRepeat  Před 5 lety

      I'd like to see what sort of Voodoo magic Ford has conjured up with the Shelby.

    • @blackdot1128
      @blackdot1128 Před 5 lety

      Jake Stumph I would love to see you guys continue to expand. I really like your videos. Well done. We want more lol

  • @331Grabber
    @331Grabber Před 5 lety

    Those longer gears are Ford screwing up the gear ratios on the 2018 MT82 to make the manual cars slower than they should be. 4th is 1:1 now instead of 5th so now the engine spends even more time out of it's power band.

  • @al151
    @al151 Před 5 lety +2

    That mustang has the bbq ticking starts from 0:09!

    • @mike63ful
      @mike63ful Před 5 lety +1

      Sounds like a type writer .

  • @pontiacGXPfan
    @pontiacGXPfan Před 5 lety

    I wish there was sedan versions of these cars make it easier to justify having one of them clogging your driveway

  • @franciscopichardo08
    @franciscopichardo08 Před 4 lety

    Might need to change the clutches after this lol maybe the Camaro motor bent a pushrod with all the down shifts

  • @terminatorcoyote6319
    @terminatorcoyote6319 Před 10 měsíci

    GT grand tour , SS super sport 😂

  • @lovechrist3645
    @lovechrist3645 Před 4 lety

    You're comparing apples to oranges the Camaro ss1le is an awesome Road car track car it's made just for that, performance Pack 1 Mustang isn't the car to compare you should have compared the pp2 track version of the Mustang that's the car that competes with the 1Le Camaro , you would have achieved a better comparison.............

  • @owenchute2124
    @owenchute2124 Před 4 lety

    were you also eating sandwiches between shifts?

  • @ChaosAttractor13
    @ChaosAttractor13 Před 5 lety

    If you get the Magnetic Ride Control, it certainly is great, even in the stock 2SS. However, I went old school coil over suspension because they are much easier to maintain and replace. The Magnetic Ride control is very expensive to repair. I hate that the 2SS 1le only comes in manual and with Recaro seats. I hate those seats with a passion. They are even worse in the GT 350 / 500. They are not needed. Waste of money.

    • @ChaosAttractor13
      @ChaosAttractor13 Před 5 lety

      The ride is only slightly rougher than the Magnetic Ride control. In my honest and experienced opinion.

    • @amiller2121
      @amiller2121 Před 8 měsíci

      Most people would disagree with you on the seats FYI.

  • @kjam87gxp
    @kjam87gxp Před 5 lety

    I didnt know people still recorded with potatoes