"Electric Vehicles Are A SCAM!"😱: According to My Comments
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- čas přidán 24. 01. 2024
- Electric Vehicles a scam according to many in my comment section. Have I fallen for the EV scam?
Join me as I read your comments in real time, and address your statements and questions. Lets see if I can be convinced that EVs are a scam that are bad for the environment.
My goal is to educate the public about the advantages and disadvantages of EV ownership without the misinformation or over simplification.
#electricvehicle #electriccar #carownershiptips #rivian #tesla #scam - Auta a dopravní prostředky
I must be really dense. I bought two EVs and will never go back to ICE.
same here!
Buy what works for you.
If you can charge at home and have a medium to short commute daily, an EV makes sense.
If you were a plumber, what would you drive? If you lived out in the country and had to drive 100 miles to the city to get supplies what would you drive? If you lived in an apartment and were a rideshare or delivery driver, what would you drive?
Good for you but don’t use my tax money to subsidize your transportation
@@lv4077 It's no longer your money. Too many people think that they pay the tax and owns the whole treasury.... same thing one could argue don't subside the oil industry because they don't own a car.
@@Trust_but_Verify Believe me,the IRS has made that abundantly clear.I I think it’s very unfair for the government to take larger and larger percentages,,of course until you’re a billionaire ,of the income you work so hard for with these progressive tax laws.I don’t appreciate their careless, profligate ,spending. I work too hard for my money to have it thrown away especially at the rates our Congress enjoys. I’ve noticed it’s so much easier to spend other peoples money than to spend your own, and there seems to be a malignant form of that going on in Congress.
I love it when people (who have absolutely no firsthand knowledge) tell me that I will need to upgrade the electric service at my house. Completely false. I installed a Level 2 charger that uses a 240V 40-amp dryer plug. I didn't need to touch the panel or the utility service. They will completely make stuff up. I love that you are calling out the BS.
Also, the problem with charging at night doesnt work for people who live in apartments. I wouldnt want to go to an empty Oakland parking lot in the middle of the night to charge.
The average home uses 900kw per month. that 1.9Kw per waking hour(16 hours). 1 Supercharger uses 250Kw per hour. 1 supercharger uses as much as 125 homes in an hour.
8 Superchargers use as much as 2 megawatts or 1000 typical homes. Then you imaging all the people living in apartments wanting to charge on their way home from work on a hot summer day. The grid wont be ready by 2035.
I’ve owned a R1T for over a year now and haven’t had any problems to date and my main point is to say I’ve charged outside of my home only on 2 occasions and those were both road trips. I am completely happy with my purchase.
Keep up the great content.
My wife has tesla and I have rivian. we never had any problems. And if you really really smart like you, EV is my choice all day!!!
Thanks for commenting!🙏
@@thedukeofmanville ELECTRIC VEHICLES=JUNKIES WET DREAM ALL THE COPPER IN THE WORLD TO STEAL SEALED THE FATE FOR EV, ICE CAN STILL FUNCTION WITHOUT CATALYTIC CONVERTERS LOL EV CANT OPERATE WITHOUT CHARGING CABLES IT'S LIKE FVCKERS STEALING ALL THE HOSES OFF GAS PUMPS TIME TO GIVE UP THE LIBERAL EV UTOPIA IT'S OLDER MORE OUTDATED TECHNOLOGY.
I agree with you 100%! I’m 72 years old and I’m doing my research on a Tesla Model Y and contemplating buying one for the very same reasons you stated. I too am not a member of the “New Green Deal” crowd. However, there is one component of their argument that I do agree with is the fact that fossil fuels are finite. It takes millions of years to make a lump of coal or a drop of oil and us humans are using the stuff faster than it can be replenished. Yes there are hydroelectric and nuclear sources of electricity but 70% of the electricity produced in the U.S. comes from fossil fuel powered generators. There will be a point of time, although not in my lifetime, that Mother Earth will roll over and say, “Alright guys, I’m done lactating, you’ve sucked me dry! Now go get yourselves some horses”. Everyone’s situation is different. I live in north Florida in a house where I can install a 240 volt charger in my garage. I currently have solar panels on the roof of my house and throughly enjoy the reduction in my utility bill! I’m also thinking about installing a power wall in my garage powered by solar panels on the garage roof. If I do that then I’ll be totally off the grid as I’ll be using electricity that I produce. I currently own a two seat Porsche that cost me $50 every time I fill it up. In my city the cost per kilowatt hour is .14 and a half cents. It would cost me about $10 to $12 to max charge a 310 mile long range Tesla model Y. EV’s are making more sense to me every day with their low maintenance and cheep power source.
Outstanding! Thanks for sharing. I will be installing solar as well.
But nothing beats being able to beat a Ferrari in a 0 - 60!
Please do keep in mind that EV technology concerning lighter, longer-lasting, and environment-friendly batteries will improve over time, as well as expanding the charging infrastructure and finding enough power for the grid. Should we really believe people will still be driving gas-powered vehicles in 50 years?
I’m a new EV owner. I’ve learned so much from this channel. Please keep all the great content going!
7 cents a kwh is what I'm paying , so sick of the lies , ev are cleaner even with mines
Awesome!!!! There are so many hate/discourage myths out there. I live in GA, and I have received same benefits you have. My insurance went down, my electric went down because of me being an EV owner. I installed a home wall charger and that is even safer when installed right because the wall charger has its own dedicated 60amp breaker and the wall charger will not let you go above 48amp to keep the circuit safe. People should just buy what works for them and let others enjoy what works best for them. I have owned several nice well-maintained Gas/ICE cars before I purchased my 1st EV. it was so much cheaper to own, ease of maintaining than my Gas car, which ended up sitting more than it needed and still cost more to properly maintain the Gas car which was driven less than the EV. Because of the savings and owner cost of driving it. I sold the gas/ICE and upgraded my EV to a newer version and now I only have the EV. If i were to ever buy another GAS/ICE car it will be strictly an emotional joy purchase just to have. other than that, I will not go back to a gas/ICE car. My EV works GREAT!!! for me.
and here in california when the heat wave comes they say dont charge your EV and dont use AC i bet soon california will charge people 5 bucks and hour to use the sun if you have solar panels.... SUN TAX FEE
🤣😂 Don't say it loud!
Power isn't wasted at night, because they only generate as much power as is needed.
Good video. One question did you look at the lightning or did you prefer the Rivian for your purchase.
I never had any interest in the Lightning, it's just an electrified F-150. The Rivian was designed from the ground up to be electric and it fits my lifestyle much better.
Ford and CM backing out from selling EV
I have been driving an ev since 2017 after i totaled my 12 yr old prius! I bought a used fiat 500e to get my feet wet…….if it had better range (only 87 miles) i would have been very happy……i wasn’t able to go many places because there were not enough places to charge!. Well I got my new tesla last year & i am very happy!!! My maintenance has been very little compared to the ice cars…. You will pay for windshield wipers, windshield wiper fluid, tires, & cabin filters….thats about it! My electricity to charge the car is about $67/mo……. It’s much cheaper to charge at home…….i wake up to a full charge every day!!! If you charge at low peak time in florida…..it’s about .13cents/kilowatt hour! Superchargers are cheap….but it’s based on the hour you charge….so that would be from .26cent-.47cents/kilowatt hour!!! The car is much safer than the ice vehicles as it’s very heavy…..i drive flawlessly in rain…. I’m very happy with my choice!
Preach Sista!
I'm a new, CPO EV owner, 22 Etron, and I love it. With that being said, I also still own a modded 04 GTO and mildly modified Jeep. The convince of charging at home is great but the availability and reliability of fast charging in less populated areas is still a small issue if I need to travel into East Texas to see my family.
Things I would like to be better about charging on the road :
Have more at gas stations or convenience stores that way I could possibly prepay at the register when I go in like when I get gas normally or if I don't want to download another app for a charging service.
Also covered parking for the chargers!! Nothing is more irritating to in my short ownership is on a trip trying plug into a DCFC in a downpour.
Duke, Your right and I agree with you, 15 MPG = 15 MPGe but some interesting things happen when we convert to some other units of measure. Gasoline is 13% hydrogen ( mass ) and 87% carbon ( mass ) 1 gallon has a mass of 2.85769 kg, it contains 0.3714997 kg of hydrogen at 12.3833 kwh. Dividing 15 MPG by 2.85769 we get 5.25 miles per kilogram of gasoline. Dividing 15 MPG by 0.3714997 we get 40.38 miles per kilogram of hydrogen. If we divide 5.25 by 13% we get the same answer 40.38 MPK of hydrogen. If we divide 15 by 12.3833 we get 1.21 miles per kwh, If we divide 40.38 by 33.333 again we get 1.21 miles per kwh. Lets do your Rivian 96 miles divided by 43 kwh is 2.233 miles per kwh. 2.233 * 12.3833 = 27.65 miles per gallon of gasoline. 2.333 * 33.333 = 74.42 MPK of hydrogen. That’s 74.42 miles per kilogram of hydrogen, NOT 74.42 miles per gallon of gasoline. when we change the label to 74.42 miles per gallon of gasoline, that’s called fraud
and that is what the EPA is doing when they stick that imaginary MPGe sticker on it.
You're lucky I know your channel and how you really feel. I read the video title and was about to click "do not recommend." I'm sick of other negative CZcamsrs using Tesla and ev's as content always screaming it's the end of the world for electric.
I find it quite sad how critical thinking doesn't seem to be taught in schools these days. EVs are the way forward if we are to combat climate change. Just deciding the climate change is a myth won't stop it happening. :-) Great video!
Which cars are most likely to catch fire?
A report by US-based Autoinsurance EZ actually suggested hybrids were the most likely to catch fire, with 3,474.5 instances per 100,000 vehicle sales, followed by ice (1,529.9/100k) and then EV (25.1/100k)
You are correct; and there other studies that support the claim that BEV are the least likely to catch fire while hybrids have the highest risk by far.
Thanks for commenting!
@@thedukeofmanville,
Hey Duke, like the channel. However I think you, like many EV owners show a bit of hive thinking. For one, there have been 3 public EV buses in London that have caught fire in 2 weeks. So it’s not as uncommon as you make it seem. Especially considering that EVs are very new vehicles compared to the typical ICE vehicle that will catch fire.
Secondly I want to challenge your idea that large ICE manufacturers are deliberately tanking the EV market. Not much logic in that idea. But I still subbed
@@Chris-8.9 Hello, Thanks for commenting! I am only basing my information on the facts and data that currently exist. That may change if the future, but as of now, all of the data shows that fires are a lot less likely to occur in BEVs.
As far as the ICE manufactures are concerned, all you have to do is look at their actions. I predicted this over 6 months ago in a CZcams video series called: The Pretenders, The Fakers, and The EV Makers. So, even if my logic is off, my prediction is spot on, and no one else was talking about this at that time.
@@thedukeofmanville , Fair enough. I think the jury is still out on the fire issue. As I alluded to, comparing a small sample size of new vehicles that belong primarily to the well off (Will generally maintain vehicles more), to Cars 20 , 30, 40 years old; mainly multi-owned vehicles is not Apples to apples.
Re your prediction. Well Duke we all know that correlation does not equal causation. If we follow the money …you would have to explain Teslas dropping their prices and still not being able to sell. The reality I think is that the demand is not there… neither is the infrastructure. What are your thoughts on Tesla btw .. not a Muskrat?
@@Chris-8.9 Dude, many ICE owners also have hive thinking.
OBTW, on average, 171,000 gas vehicles fires each year. My wife loves her model Y Tesla.
I'm the exact opposite of you. I love my ice cars. I love the cold starts, rowing through the gears, and I actually prefer the analog experience. I would never try to convince you to go back to ice cars. You like what you like. I don't think it's a scam at all. As for the fires you are 100% correct. The only challenge with the EV fires is the fire depts have not developed consistent technique for thermal run off.
ICE cars are cool, I just like electric better. Just like some people prefer manual transmissions.
I'm 58 and own a Model Y. These things are the real deal. A little adjustment in my daily life and what a pleasure it's been. I think charging at home is a must. My kids all want them but without houses it really doesn't make sense. But , hey, your EV is a scam. I'll take it off your hands for $.20 on the dollar...😄
Oh, and I have done a cost analysis Charging the Model Y at home VS our 2021 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk. Gas would need to drop to $0.79 per gallon to break even. This counting fuel only and not oil changes etc... Now, compare that to using my 2017 F350 Dually as a commuter? Different isn't even in the same realm.
My EV is NOT for sale!😄
1:03 most jurisdictions where they have implemented this tax, EV owners are paying 2 to 3 times what gas drivers are paying. Glad you support that. EZ PZ.
Do you have any facts to support your claim?
@@thedukeofmanville Facts? Ok, EZ PZ. As of Sept 1, 2023, Texas charges an additional $400 EV registration for the first year, and $200 yearly after that. CZcams comments aren't friendly to links and you get banned and such for doing it, but this is easily googleable. Texas taxes gas at $0.20 a gallon. Easily googleable. Average American drives about 15,000 miles a year. googleable. Take a car that gets 30mpg (like a Camry) over that 15,000 miles and that driver will be paying $100 a year in gas taxes. Easy math. So for one of the biggest and most populated states in the US, EVERY electric vehicle driver, on average, will be paying QUADRUPLE taxes for the first year, and only DOUBLE taxes every year after than their gas driving counterparts. Its punitive in nature and has nothing to do with funding roads, cause as we know the entire budget is fungible anyways. At this stage in the game its simply a mechanism to slow down adoption.
@@ultrastoat3298,
I like the research, however isn’t it also true that EVs are more “ taxing” on the roadways due to their weight. Also if/when there is an accident it requires more nuanced approaches from fire/rescue. ?
@@Chris-8.9 To be clear we are now changing the subject in search for a justification for why EVs should pay more than gas car. The issue of weight and EVs is a complete myth made up to hinder EV adoption. The weight required to damage roads is much much greater than your typical passenger vehicle will reach. Did you know that the BMW 3 series weighs about the the same as a Tesla model 3? Sometimes even MORE. Go look at their curb weights. I don't recall any arguments being raised over the last 40 years about BMW 3 series damaging our roads and we urgently must tax them more, but as soon as we have EVs... man its time to start thinking about weight. I don't believe even the ridiculous soon to be discontinued Hummer EV which is 9,000 lbs has any measurable impact to your standard road. Tractor trailers can have a GVWR of 80,0000 lbs. This does by far the most damage to roads and is what roads must be built to withstand. As far as vehicle fires, EVs do present a different challenge for dealing with them, and to that i would say good thing they are an order of magnitude less likely to catch fire and that rate is STILL going down with every generation. Its an over blown topic and is definitely not a justification to tax people more for EVs than ICE cars.
Would you buy a new battery after your warranty over or get rid of it. A gentleman in Saskatchewan Canada had a 2017 Nissan leaf warranty was over. He wasn't going to pay $50.000 plus taxes added to $60.000. Batteries costs double the price of the Nissan leaf
A new Nissan Leaf battery 🔋 is $6500.00 to $7500.00 installed. You may be mixing that up with the Hyundai Ionic 5 battery replacement cost that was damaged in an accident.
@thedukeofmanville it was a older Nissan leaf the guy had in Saskatchewan Canada. He told the insurance company to take the insurance off it and he junk it. He said he wasn't going to pay 50.000 plus taxes 60.000 for the batteries. Everything in Canada costs more than the US
Current 100kwh Model S battery is around $18K and expected to drop in half by the end of the decade (before the Rivoan warranty expires). The Rivian is 133kwh. Doubt I'll keep the vehicle that long anyways as I generally want some new tech that's out by year 6 or 7.
@Syitalian25 Some manufacturers coming out with new technology every year. I always thought that every EV manufacturer using the same batteries. In the last 7 months there been 6 EV fire, the last one was Christmas night in Alabama. It been on two US TV online News. One news article was shown in Canada
@@bobjohnston5527 BEV or PHEV? 99% of "EV" fires are hybrids - news channels report them as EVs because the avergae person doesn't know the difference, BTW there have been 6 ICE car fires in the USA over the course of watching this video - almost 200,000 per year.
Ever since the 1970s standing in line, waiting to get gas, I was wishing for electric cars. It was more about not giving my money to the Middle East.
I've been thinking about an EV, Bolt or similar. But from everything I see, they're great if you can charge at home and use around town. On trips, no thanks. It's more expensive to public charge and for me to drive my 15 Gold TDI which routinely gets 50+++ on the highway. And I don't have to wait to charge.
I've charged probably 50 times at Superchargers and have never waited. Unless you're in a heavily populated metro area (e.g. LA), this metric is vastly overblown. 20%-80% typical charge time at a SC or RAN (R1T) is 25 minutes and runs about $25 give or take. But keep in mind 90% of your driving will likely involve charging at home at night when the rates are low(er). Home charging is such an underrated benefit. Even charging on the road is super easy...just plug-in and charge. No CCs, pins, apps..... nothing. There are enough RANs and SCs out west I don't need EVgo, EA, ChargePoint, etc. Bolt is a good choice for urban driving but the 55 kW charging speed means long road-trip charging times. Perhaps consider the Hyundai Ionic 5.
@melvinholland9656 45 minutes charge time is called waiting to be charged.
@@melvinholland9656 25 minutes is waiting! No thanks.
Life is very expensive
And a drag
Some are cursed like me Why some others are blessed. Enormously
Waiting for new battery technology and much better charging infrastructure before I switch over.
I am a critic of forced EV, however I do appreciate your channel. Do you own any solar panels? I think the combination of solar with battery operated items can be a great thing! Charging a car off coal is still an issue for the green vision.
I drove EV since 2011 and once I bought a house in 2013 I installed solar panels. The panels paid for themselves in 6 years simply because it's helping pay for utility and EV energy cost at the same time. Though PG&E in California had caught on and really raised the utility for solar owners. I think you're looking at 10+ years for panels to pay for themselves now.
@@lanzer22 I look at solar as a way to be able to produce electricity in a grid down situation. Yeah it may take a bit to “pay themselves off” but being able to harvest electricity by myself is my main goal.
@@coreybikes by the way if you wish to use solar when the grid is down, you’ll need to include a home battery. It’s extra cost but it’s a great backup device.
@@lanzer22 yes a battery bank is required for storing the energy
Yep, you hit on the magic formula. I have a R1T and a Y along with solar and three Powerwalls. About 8 months a year my electricity bill is $17/month, the grid tie-in minimum. So, most of the time I'm operating the vehicles and the house for practically free. Of course, that took a significant capital expenditure which will take another 5 years to reach break-even. I would encourage anyone who is going EV to take the next step and invest in solar if possible. My next infrastructure step will be to add V2H from the R1T if and when Rivian provides such. That would be like having 10 Powerwalls at full charge. You could power your entire house for many days during a severe outage.
They are a scam as much as overspending for a ICE vehicle. I am cheap so anything over my price point is a scam.
Power grids are now being supported by sustainable energy, preventing rolling blackouts supporting the grid! A lot of EV chargers use sustainable energy. You got to love these foolish people! Ignorance is bliss!!!
A lot of those comments think an extra $100 to register the car is going to break the bank 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Please Talk about Insurance. Great content Thanks
Thanks! I covered insurance in this video: czcams.com/video/92lNJ1NoMr4/video.html
How you reckon you can make that there electric vehicle roll coal Jethro??
I don't care what makes it roll bubble boy.
You are doing your part promoting the EV Scam
Thanks! That's better than promoting bafoonary and nonsense
Welcome to the spin zone how to turn a negative into positive.
I noticed he didn't say how long those road trips are 😮
1900 mile round trip and a 600 mile round trip all on my CZcams channel
I love my Tesla 3 and I am far from the green agenda. It’s looks good, it’s fast and I plug it in when I get home. Convenient.
Duke, here's the thing, a fixed amount of energy is required to move from point A to point B. The quantity of fuel is variable but the energy is not. In a previous video you compared the cost to charge your Rivian with a gas powered vehicle that was getting 15 MPG of gasoline. Did you ever try to calculate the MPGe ( miles per gallon equivalent ) for this gas powered vehicle?
Currently a full charge in the Rivian costs me $31.39 at my home rate of $0.236 per kWh. A Ram TRX 15 MPG on premium @ $4.75/gallon would cost $95 to go those same 300 miles.
Over triple the fuel cost to get similar performance in an ICE vehicle.
@@Cttechexpress I was wondering if you ever converted that 15 MPG ( miles per gallon of gasoline ) for the Ram TRX to MPGe ( miles per gallon of gasoline, equivalent ) like the EPA does for BEV's
@@saltydogg 15 is 15. easy calculation.
@@saltydogg MPG is MPG? not sure what you are on about.
A gallon of gas contains about 33.7kwh of energy, when you get 15mpg you are using 2.24kwh per mile or get 0.44miles per kwh, that's about 1/12th of the miles per kwh my Tesla model 3 gets.
I get 5.5miles per Kwh from my Model 3, if it was running off gas that would be 5.5x33.7 = 185 MPGe, i.e. I would need to get 185MPG from a gasoline car to use the same amount of energy per mile.
$4 a gallon = 11.8c per kwh equivalent. $4/15mpg = 26.7c per mile
5.5miles per kwh at 11.8c per kwh = 2.145c per mile
Guess what?
26.7 / 2.145 (cost per mile) is the same as 185 / 15 (miles per gallon equivalent) if the cost per kwh is the same.
I bought an E bike over the summer and it was the smartest thing I ever did.
That's not saying much if that's the smartest thing you ever did.
You do a good job with your videos! I'm waiting to buy a Cybertruck
Good choice!
No problems here. Must be user error.
Don’t buy an ev if you can’t charge at home.
You give good EV reviews.
Have you taken any long road trips?
I do the 1200 mile Sydney-Melbourne-Sydney trip regularly - it's faster and cheaper in my model 3 Tesla than the Audi A4 it replaced.
Man I wish I could afford one of those Rivian R1T's. Looks like an awesome vehicle with awesome technology. At 58, I can withdraw a bit from my IRA next year without penalty to make it happen. Right now Tesla, Rivian, and perhaps Hyundai/Kia are the only manufacturers of BEV's I'd trust right now. I've been partial to Tesla but the more you share your Rivian with us the more I'm starting to like it. Thanks for sharing your insights, bro!
We have a Tesla and a Rivian. The Rivian is much better built. Rivian is announcing a smaller/more affordable R2 vehicle on March 8th, I'd wait and see for tbat.
@@Cttechexpress Wow. I can’t wait for that. Has pricing been announced yet?
@@emayhand Find a used R1T......then buckle-up and hang-on for the ride of your life!
Good job Duke!
Thanks!
Ford had how many key switch fires ?
There were 2000 thousand Ford ignition switch fires were reported.
Thanks for sharing!
@thedukeofmanville yes and like 19 chevy bolts and the ev is the problem 🤣🙄
You like my brand new truck Peterbilt I ordered 2 weeks ago it’s been delivered ? Let me know what you think 💖💖💖 Poptart
I’m a Diesel Power Girl & Rolling Coal 💖💖💖 It’s all love lol 😂
Sounds like a nice truck! BTW I like diesel and coal.
I love the EQS Mercedes Benz 💖💖💖 yup but I like the ESV Escalade EV too
One thing EV owners and sellers are going to find hard to deal with is Africa starting to demand their fair share of the pie as they move more and more towards controlling all of their natural resources. What is this going to do to the prices of EVs and replacement battery cost?
As for me hydrogen is the way to go as you start with water and you end with water all the while cleaning the air as the vehicle is operated. This is a win win but those that sell energy are dead set against the technology as the end user simply will not need them anymore for much of anything. For the technology I'm working on all that will be needed in the tank is water and away you go.
Did you get that CV19 vaccine??
I've owned vehicles since age 13 so for 45 years I have never had a vehicle fire But 2 houses down from me the house was a complete loss do to his volt going up in flames The cause of ICE vehicle fires is usually not from fuel leak ignition where EV's main cause is from the battery I think EV's are very expensive currently I really wish a manufacturer would make a simple, basic EV with a 500 mile battery in a full size truck heck even a sedan But it seems all mfg-rs are hell bent on excessive electronics and lights with high end luxury amenities Right now the vehicle cost is way high, insurance is way high if you can get it I did talk to my agent about this so its not a opinion the cost of adding a out let at your house and limited range is why these EV's are sitting on lots
A Volt is a hybrid not a BEV. As I have stated many times hybrids have the highest fire risk while BEVs have the lowest. I owned 2 Volts for over 12 years, so I have actual experience.
Also, the Chevy Silverado EV has 450-500 miles of range. And have you looked a the price of trucks lately? Many are a lot more expensive than EV trucks even without the crazy dealer markups.
Thanks for commenting.
Well owning 2 volts is why you are so hot on EV's I say if you got the rest of the 98 percent you may think differently LOL Its a little fuuny ? Hey its late man. Seriously I believe we are at the stage of ? remember all the mfg-rs started placing engine control computers in vehicles OH that was going to be the end of the world for Home Mechanics and it was a evil plan by the big 3 to have vehicles only and forever serviced at the dealer Now after I rebuild a diesel I'm setting and tweaking the ecm idm , pcm cans some 50 years later So imagine if world leader don't kill all of us all What the EV will be like then ? we won't except a range nothing under 1200 miles @@thedukeofmanville
Costs of Electric to run Versus ICE Vehicles
Spoiler alert: Electric is cheaper to run!
Half of the UK’s electricity now is generated using renewable/ nuclear sources.
youtube.com/@ElectricClassicCars?si=YsPjytgtN1I_Y_3T
Full credit to Electric Classic Cars on CZcams for an excellent and balanced comparison on this!
youtube.com/@ElectricClassicCars?si=Ug9dN2ZuAAFhuvLs
Elon is laughing his way to the bank
I love my EV. For me, compared to an ICE machine it's much cheaper. I charge it at home, and it hasn't affected my electric bill much at all. Where new cars in AZ costs a hell of a lot for registration. Typically, around $400 a year. I paid $45 for 5 years. I got a tax rebate, plus money back from my electricity provider. One nice thing, I don't have to bother with oil changes and typical maintenance of an ICE machine. In time, EVs will take over when battery technology improves. I can't wait until all these ICE buckets are off the road. Oil companies are doing a great job influencing the American public with their corporate propaganda. Obviously, they are trying to keep their deep pockets full. EVs are a threat to their inflated profit margin. We Americans for the longest while keep playing catch-up to the rest of the world. In China the EV market is taking off like a storm, and across Europe. But, as usual, we will continue to lag behind.
In 100,000 miles of owning a combustion vehicle you will spend $1200 on oil changes. What a financial burden! An EV vehicle initial purchase costs average is $15k higher than a than gas car. Where is the savings? The amount of interest you pay on the EV loan would pay for oil changes in an ICE vehicle. When the battery goes bad on an EV, I will be nice and say it's $10,000 (when we both know its way more). The cost to replace the gas engine with labor is half the cost of just a battery alone. It would be nice if the EV morons who think they know anything about anything would shut the hell up.
Awesome! Great idea.
I have a model S and it's the best vehicle I've ever own. People have to own one to appreciate it, I charge overnight at home every 5 days. Love not having to pump or buy gas & no oil changes.
The people that don't like EVs have never owned one.
Thanks for commenting!
@@thedukeofmanvilleWrong. I’m an electrical engineer. I’ve evaluated enough of the first level and second level unintended consequences that affect me directly, given my use cases, and have concluded that they are nowhere near a good fit for me.
@tajdvl-advocate6113 aka you never owned one lol
How is it not a good fit for you?
@@tajdvl-advocate6113 Probably would agree with you if you tow weekly, can't charge at home or live at the North Pole.
@@melvinholland9656 The point is that top down, one size only, government mandated, feel good solutions aren’t a solution for everyone. Not everyone has a single family home with a picket fence where they can put solar on a roof or a charger in their garage. Most people in Seattle park on the streets and can’t own their chargers there Also, I currently live in WA. Solar irradiance doesn’t work well with solar panels when there are clouds and trees in the way. Then there are the northern tier states in fly-over country that get so cold that cars won’t charge. Did you miss the recent Chicago news?
High tech electric cars are an enthusiasts car is just a different kind of car enthusiast
I took my EV back, it's just not a thrill for me. Yeah it rides nice and it's quiet, but so do a lot of other cars. It's just ho hum for me even with all the tech, which I rarely use. And all the spyware. The Rivian looks good and would probably be my choice, but I'm just not there yet. Ice for me
What kind of EV did you have?
60% in 12yr is pretty ambitious. I don’t think it’s logical to assume that, considering we are only like 2% ev owners in the US currently. I get more people will buy them over time. I think an ev is a right tool for the job kind of thing. Use your ev on short drives and gas for your farther drives. I’m an EV tech so I benefit if people buy them. But the government push to have 100% by 2035 is comical. Let the market decide.
8% of U.S. sales in 4th quarter 2023 were electric.
@@someonenew3478 ok still extremely low. There are approximately 278 million cars as of 2024 in the US according to Forbes. I’ve seen similar estimates elsewhere. As for EVs your number is the highest I’ve seen. I’ve mostly seen 0.86 - 2%. All the number I’m quoting are for registered vehicles in the US as of 2024. So 6% seems high based off the numbers I’m seeing based registered cars. But hey I could be wrong and I’m looking at the numbers wrong.
I plan on getting an EV one day. Ive decided to wait until honda offers an EV Accord. Theyre almost there but not yet. I trust Honda builds more than any other car company.
Honda never made a ev . Making a good ev is way harder than making a good gas car be warned.
@@MakeAMark1755I agree thats why I wait until the Accord EV. There wont be one until Honda gets it right. Just like the CVT transmission honda didn't offer t until they worked out all the bugs. This years Accord Hybrid is a step toward it though.
To me EV is great. As a second backup car
EVs have their purpose, and its mostly for people who are relatively well off. If you have a garage, and dont need to charge at Superchargers. Then its perfect. But we have states like CA and VA mandating that all cars sold in 2035 are EVs. It will be a disaster for the grid and people who live in apartments and condos.
The other reason I think people are rallying against EVs ,are the tax incentives. As a tax paying citizen, I dont want to subsidize cars for people who are who are making up to $300K. We cant afford the federal school lunch program to fight childhood hunger, but here is $7500 for the wealthy to buy an $80000 truck.
Are you OK with the substitutes the oil & gas companies receive?
In Australia (a relatively small country by comparison to the USA) the fossil fuel industry recieved $11.1 Billion dollars in subsidies and tax breaks in 2022 alone and has been consistent (actually previously higher) for many decades, it's just not obvious like the reduction on purchase prices of new cars - the incentives on EV's here pales into insignificance compared with the benefit provided to fossil fuel by the taxpayers of Australia.
@@TB-up4xi In the US, its 20B in incentives, but you must know the price of oil affects everything. So there is a genuine reason for it, though I dont think its needed or deserved.
As far as EVs are concerned, Tesla sold 1.8M cars last year. If half qualified for the credit, then that is $7500*900000. Then you have to add all the incentives for solar and wind and coal and fuel to generate electricity. I am sure its pretty significant as well.
My P100D will carry my six kids, cost 45k, and goes 0-60 in 2.2 seconds. My other choice was a minivan so it wasn’t a hard decision for me. I’m the most right wing person you could possibly imagine so it’s disappointing to see so many on the my side be so gullible lol.
EVs are heavier than ICE because of the battery. EVs lose more value than ICE according to the Blue Book. You have to be careful about using the battery juice for radio and heating/AC in extreme weather conditions. EVs are "convenient" only if you can charge your car at home, and if travelling for a long distance, must limit your adventure to only the routes where charging stations are available. EVs take a lot more time to charge, while ICE simply needs to have its tank filled. EVs have a shorter range for road trips. Changing the battery can cost between $5,000.00 and $20,000.00. Charging the EV can be a bit difficult during a power outage, and if you have a dumb cluck for a governor, you'll experience rolling blackouts while not bothering to improve the infrastructure to meet the demands for more electricity. When your EV battery gets old and fails to start, you can't jump start it. Lithium batteries are brought to you by slave labor in China. EVs DO NOT "save" the planet. EVs are safe only because they're already on the ground, but Heaven help us if somebody thinks it's a good idea to make all-electric aircraft.
The loss in value is misleading because they are not taking into account State and Federal tax credits which can be as much as $11,500 in my state, and even more in other states. Also, much a the value loss is because Tesla cut their prices by 30%. Now you won't have to guess how much the "average" EV depreciated.
I wonder how the presenter thinks power is generated at night or when there is cloud cover and solar is useless. You certainly can’t depend on windmills. Yes, that’s right, it’s almost entirely fossil fuels, unless you happen to live in a region that has dependable hydroelectric or geothermal.
With battery storage systems you can store energy from the day to use it in the evenings. This would take a significant load off the grid.
@@thedukeofmanville Where do batteries come from and what incredibly toxic pollution are they responsible for from material mining through disposal? And, no, CO2 is not a pollutant. It is a necessary molecule for the viability of all plant life, higher concentrations of which enhance plant life growth and reduce the amount of water plants need to survive. Will the earth get warmer, possibly, but far fewer people and animals die from warmer climate than colder climate.
Anyone who has just spent tens of thousands on an EV will of course be an advocate.I have to wonder what their response be when it becomes obvious they were mistaken?How many will even admit to even having owned one?
I have spent even more on gas cars which is why I advocate for EVs to those that may benefit from them.
@@thedukeofmanville My primary complaint is the use of my tax money to subsidize your transportation.I honestly don’t think they’re a practical vehicle for the majority of drivers.The belief by many that anthropogenic Co2 induced catastrophic warming of the earth is a problem is spurious at best .
I do think consumers should buy whatever vehicles, whatever products they want, without government, regulation, or interference. So anyone wanting to own one has every right I just don’t believe they’re practical for many people. I can tell you for a fact they’re not a reasonable economic alternative to ice vehicles. They are not carbon zero or environmentally innocuous. The metals mining will generate enough CO2 just in their manufacture to require you driving at least 60,000 miles before your even a little bit close to the CO2 production of an ice vehicle. So anyone who wants one should buy one but if you’re doing it for the “green economy “you don’t understand the physics of Co2 and greenhouse gas warming.
@@thedukeofmanville I’m curious,why are government agencies so intent on protecting the BEV industry? Why is it necessary to subsidize ,encourage and regulate a large area of our economy? Why are consumers discouraged from buying the vehicles they’d like to have in favor of a vehicle virtually mandated by bureaucrats in the government? Why is the tax money of one group of Americans taken from them and used for an area of our economy they don’t choose to patronize?
Why is an industry,”fossil fuels “being pilloried by government bureaucrats?
I spent tens of thousands on ICEs and I'm not an advocate for oil, so why is it difficult to believe I can spend the same amount on a EV just because I like them better than ICEs? This sort of thinking is rooted in ideology and not logic IMO.
Try to Set your ideology aside for a moment (if possible) and view it more as manual transmission vs automatic transmission situation. They both have their benefits and drawbacks, but it up to the person to decide which one they like best. Now add a little politics into the mix and logic goes out the window, and here we are.
@@lv4077 National security and to end the reliance on foreign oil, and their ability to influence our geopolitics and economy. When the war breaks out gas will be $10.00 a gallon and we will be in a deep recession in 8 months just as it happened in 2008.
This is why President GW Bush passed EV incentives for this very reason. He was an oil man BTW.
you must be from Mayotte island show and tell
Lol, 😂 when the government turns off the power, they're going to know exactly where you are.
It's called cell phone and computers
@@thedukeofmanville those will be dead with the Tesla, no?
The comments from the right wing extremist parrots repeating the lies they hear on Fox News and social media are hilarious. Great video.
My wife drove the EV once and now she'll never drive the gas car at home. Let me assure you that saving the environment has nothing to do with it. :) Having electric cost 1/5 of the price of gas per mile is nice, having solar panels at home which drive prices further down is even nicer. I'm seeing a lot of green, does that count as going green?
Great point!😂🤣I guess that is the real green agenda💲💲💲
Your math is flawed. Your forgot the cost of the solar panels, the time you spend waiting for it to charge (hourly rate x time), the cost of public charging stations, the cost of replacing tires + brakes more frequently, the cost of higher insurance rates and the cost of higher than normal depreciation on your EV (horrible resale value) equates to costing a lot more than a ICE car.
@@bigmacdaddy1234 You’re welcome to say that my math is flawed if you’re paying my bills :) otherwise if somehow I’m paying more than what I used to when driving a gas car, my bank balance would reflect it. I installed panels in 2013 and they’ve paid for themselves in 6 years. The insurance thing is a myth as Metromile and Tesla insurance both have great rates. I didn’t even mention all the maintenance cost that I used to pay when I had my Maxima. I think that one get to talk about EV life if one actually lived it. I plug the car in when I got home, no more wasting time at the gas station. Do you know much much time I saved? The Tesla has 300 mile range, I haven’t been to a public station in 2 years since we haven’t had a road trip in a while. Regen brake means my brakes will last almost forever, and my 2011 Leaf still has original brakes. You know these stuff once you actually own a EV. I know EV have great torque so I don’t drive like a maniac to preserve my tires. That’s yet another myth like somehow a heavier car means bye bye tires when there are plenty of other heavy SUV and trucks on the road. People that grab on to rumors only because they want to believe the negatives drive me nuts.
You should ave read reviews fast 😅😅lol ...Thay are brilliant the government sead a total waste of money ..A ev neley killed my family thay naley frozen to death in a ev wen the battery stopped working because of th cold weather
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Sorry about to hear about that.....NO EV for me
Tesla driver here and 4 years of problem free driving is the best scam ever.
You didn’t buy a Tesla.. too bad!!
Just wait until your forced to get an approved charger for your house. You'll either lease it or pay a large sum. It'll be internet connected they'll track every kw and tax you on it. It'll be a separate electric bill in your mail no more sucking of the local grid. You think gas is expensive lol gas is cheap AF it's the taxes that drive the price up.
That's what make solar such a great option. I can reduce my charging cost to $0.00 while making money 💰 supplying my surplus power 🔋 to the grid.
@@thedukeofmanville solar won't give you immunity from taxes were taking about a Democrat agenda.
EV's are awesome, don't miss the maintenance costs, costco gas lines, awful gas smell, etc...
How exactly do you propose that people who do not live in a single family house with a charger are going to charge their vehicles at night?
Further, how do you propose expanding the power grid with expensive, unreliable energy from windmills and Solar panels since the people pushing mass adoption of EVs are also pushing zero carbon (ie no fossil fuels)?
Finally, unless you believe in such things as "global boiling" , then what is your logic in thinking the masses are going to give up their ICE vehicles?
Seems to me EVs have a niche market with people who like tech, gadgets and raw speed. But, I see ZERO pathway for mass adoption.
I don't recommend they get EVs if they don't have access to charging as I stated in previous videos.
I'm sure people on a horse and carriage said the same thing about cars, and Blockbuster said the same thing about streaming videos, as did Blackberry say about the IPhone....
@@thedukeofmanville Fair enough. I have not watched but your most recent videos.
However, you did insinuate that everyone would be driving an EV within 10-20 years and the only way that could occur would be if most EV owners had no home charger.
@@thedukeofmanville As for comparing ICE vehicles to horse and buggies, I think you are off base in the sense that EVs, while cool and "modern" and all, have actually been around longer than ICE vehicles. So, in actuality, EVs seem to be the horse and buggy technology. www.energy.gov/articles/history-electric-car#:~:text=Here%20in%20the%20U.S.%2C%20the,spark%20interest%20in%20electric%20vehicles.
I have owned a Volt and 2 newer Tesla's. There are so many good things about an EV, but there are downsides. For me, the downsides outweigh the upsides, so I am back to ICE and much happier. I am not anti-EV, but I am anti lies, whether they are for or against EV's. What I can tell you is that so many people are working overtime to make lies and twist the truth to hide the downsides. I believe the writing is on the wall that the latest EV movement to get everyone on EV's is already a massive failure. They failed 100 years ago, and they are failing for much the same reasons. The battery and motor and electronic improvements still haven't solve the same issues that killed EV movements of the past. Sorry.
You are in the extreme minority if your story is true which I highly doubt. What was the downside of the Volt?
There is a problem with the fire statistics EVs vs Gasoline cars. Sure gas cars have more fires overall but most of them are not critical and can even be repaired. They just go into the statistics. On the other other hand EV fires are critical and can be fatal and create huge property damage. Just look at repair shops...they are welding and flame torching on gas cars without a problem for repair. You can not do this with an EV. The truth is that gasoline car fires are "safer" than an electrical car fire. Can you imagine a fire bakes out in parking garage full of EVs. Further lithium in these batteries react to any moisture not only sea salt water. If I would ride a Tesla through a foot of standing water that would give me anxiety for month after. EVs need a different battery technology and than they will be fine. :)
Please provide a source to support your claim.
@@thedukeofmanville What claim? Lithium? Here you go: Lithium reacts violently with water, producing hydrogen gas, which bubbles out of the solution. The reaction is exothermic, which means it releases heat. Formation of a Basic Solution: The reaction between lithium and water produces lithium hydroxide (LiOH) and hydrogen gas (H2).
.....And we are not even in the longevity period of EVs when they start to corrode. Scrap yards already report more fires due to EVs. I'm pro EVs but not with the current technology.
I stopped watching, because you are not open to learning, you have an excuse for every comment that you disagree with.
I am not open to learning, but you stopped watching because you disagree with the information I provided that is supported by facts and data? Please send me sources that debunk my claims, and I will make a correction on the record as I have done in other videos.
@@thedukeofmanville You didn't resent any facts in the part I watched.. you just claimed facts.
Let me get this straight, u charge from the grid, then give back to the same grid? And you make that sound like u accomplished something ? Wow
There’s no such thing as a “EV scam”
No one put a gun to anyones head to force individuals to buy a EV! Individuals are having buyers remorse because after owning a EV it’s not all it’s cracked up to be!
Totally not true most ev owners don't go back to gas.
@dwillifredbolden1
My point is no one is “forced” to buy a EV! How can anyone get scammed when voluntarily buying a EV.
I have owned 41 ICE cars since 1978 and 1 BEV - never buying another car with an engine ever again.