Graco 9.5 Finish Pro Hvlp - Spray Painting Cabinate Doors TIPS
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- čas přidán 16. 11. 2020
- Graco 9.5 Finish Pro Hvlp Spray Painting Cabinate Doors TIP. Heres a quick video from a recent job site. Using the Graco 9.5 finish pro hvlp sprayer to spray kitchen cabinate doors.
I always keep my finger on the air and just release enough to stop the paint. This prevents the pressure from dropping each time you pull the trigger leaving you with an uneven coating.
I spray painted Tikkurila Akva primer first and did a dust coat, this is quicker light coat which dries really fast. I then apply a second normal coat ontop about 10minutes after. The fog coat seals any possible issues in or makes them visible so they can be quickly sorted out with out having to wait for a standard coat to dry before you sand out. Finish coats will be in Helmi 10.
Any questions please let me know in the comments. Thanks for watching.
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Great tip that mate thanks. Looking to get this machine in the new year
great option. the qtech Q5 is a decent shout too. I have more videos on the channel with hvlp set up guides etc. Any questions just ask buddy
Great advice
thanks for watching
Love your videos thanks for all the content! We’ve recently brought the 9.5 to start spraying kitchen doors/panels. Doors we’ve brought in in the past have chipped or scratched quite easily. Want our doors to be very durable would you recommend the best type of primers and paints to use. I’ve been told a PU primer and water based paint make a solid bond and work well together? Any thoughts at all? Many thanks
Hey thanks for watching. Ive not used much PU but it does look awesome when sprayed. Something like thar would be the most durable. I give clients options also depends if you'll be spraying in the house or not as those paints would gas off for a.while where as wb wont
Nice tip Simon, looking good. What needle set did you use?
Thanks Laura. I had the number 4 set up
Hi I’ve a Fuji 4 stage is their much extra poke between this and a 5 stage thanks
hi, great unit. i used to have a fuji Q4. those are the quietest machines.
No not really a 3 stage is around 6psi
4 stage is around 9 psi
5 stage is 9.5psi. So only .5psi difference but you generally get a power dial on the 5 stage bigger units. Id say its more in the gun and needle selection. obviously upgrading is great, i like to have several different guns and varied needles too
Great video mate,I have the 7.0 model but I'm having problems with paint pissing out of cup when in use around the black rim ,graco have already replaced the clear lid that screws into gun but it to is giving me same issue any help would be appreciated, maybe sub standard spare parts??? Cheers
Thanks for watching. Have you seated it properly? I made a video on how to clean after using zinsser bin. I show how the lid needs to go on before screwing
czcams.com/video/hCEz_juM5ZI/video.html
Hey looking to spray new cabinets in the US and want to go with water based paint any suggestions?
Hey not too sure what you have on offer in the US. Benjamin Moore is lovely and sprays well.
Hello, loving the videos and bought myself a Qtech Q5. Was just wondering what paint you would use to re enamel/finish a cast iron bath tub? e.g. the inside of the bath. Seen quite a few american videos of them refinishing baths but just wondering what product you would spray thats available in the UK?
Thanks for watching. I think a fair few use epoxy and its a big secret what is used. I think tub and tile had a product a few years back. Not something ive done though
@sprayaholic yea finding that not many professionals are talking about what they use. I think your right about the epoxy as one guy was using a marine paint called awlgrip 2000 F8020
@@sprayaholic Not sure if your too interested however found out some more today.
AWLCraft 2000 Looks quite expensive around £390 for the paint, converter, thinner and primer for just 1Quartz of paint.
Looked at alternative called alexseal 501 which is the main competitor too AWLGRIP AWLCRAFT 2000 also designed for painting the top sides of boats. Phoned the Alexseal parent company mankiewicz who were very helpful. They said AWLGRIP and Alexseal are likely not the right paint although other have used for this purpose however they have another paint sold by mankiewicz designed for swimming pools that would be designed for this purpose of under water.
Phoned a few specialists as was thinking that might be a better option however prices range from £500 too 905 without the outside being painted which would be another £250.
One thing I found strange is these specialists say they will only spray in your house but is that appropriate as most of these options seem to be 2k polyurethane paints?
@James-dv1df interesting. Ye id have thought it would be an issue if the product may be gassing off for 7ish days after spraying. But im not too up to speed on the 2k product.
Maybe worth a call to someone like symphony coatings. I know they sell alot of specialist paints, no idea if they could recommend anything or give advice
What size needle do I need for conversion varnish
if using the 9.5 graco id probably say if its thin and runny like water use a number 3 (1.3mm) if its abit thicker then tr the number 4 (1.8mm
Hello, sorry if this has already been asked as i know this video is two years old , but can you paint/spray vinyl wrapped or mfc kitchen door's etc. Just wondered what would be the correct way to go about that. Thankyou for all your content. Very helpful.
It’s not recommended to spray mela mine vinyl wrap you can but you’d have to scuff it really good and use an extreme bond primer
Thankyou
you can and you need to de grease them and use a good adhesion primer first. a lot of guys use a heat gun to pull the wrap off and then paint the mdc if its actually mdc underneath
Hi Mate, I love your videos and try various tips you give. I have a couple of questions. I am doing my first kitchen in Caparol pu satin and primed with halftprimer. What is the number of coats you do on the kitchen doors? And what is the waiting time in-between them? Have you ever used clear coat like Kiva on top ? Cheers
Thanks for watching. Ive never put kiva on any of mine. But kiva is good and probably would make it more durable.
I do degrease and sand. Then prime, check for tannins, buff prime again. Then i usually wet on wet twice for the top coat. So 2 or 3 tops. After the prep has been done on the primer those next coats shouldn't really need much and should be going flat.
I would prime, then as soon as it was dry enough to sand i would, sometimes after and hour. Then re coats. I then try top coats next day
Best thing to do is try a sample board of top coat with kiva on yooand see what its like
Thanks a lot for a prompt reply. It's much appreciated. I'll try kiva on some scrap wood first. Would you use needle no3 for kiva? Shall I use 4 for the primer and satin? Dilution rate 10%?
@@rikob3622 every time is different . I use a 4 for most primer and tops. Kiva try with 3 or 4. I used it on a hand rail 5 years ago and went back a few weeks back and still looks new.
Thin 5% to start them move up a little until youre good. Keep youre air down to help reduce airborne dust
Thanks
Nice vid.
What paint are you using there - oil or water based?
Should you do a dust coat with water based or just two full coats with water based allowing each coat to dry properly?
I'd appreciate your advice on spraying water based with hvlp.
Is that a 1.8mm air cap also?
Thanks.
Hey, yes this is 1.8mm needle set. I did a dust coat first as it also allowed any blemishes to show up if id have done a full coat it would have taken alot longer to dry before i could rectify.
So you could do either way really. Its waterbased Tikkurila paint.
Thanks for a info. Your channel is great!
@@gregorylawson8346 appreciate it, if theres anything youd like to see in new videos just let me know and i can try and add it in
I certainly will. Thanks again and happy spraying 👍
Hello, great vid, would you do a video on how you clean your 9.5 after using Zinsser B-I-N?
Thanks for watching. Sure. Im doing one this week on spraying zinsser bin. Then im just working on editing the clean up video.
Thanks for the quick reply I appreciate it.
@@danpappy no problem. Thanks for the support. All the comments, thumbs up and shares really help the channel grow
Dollar/pound store and get a bottle nail varnish remover, that's my excuse
Hi mate ,what size needle you use on gloss paint for a out side cheers
Hey. It depends what products, you need to get the right consistency first before you start. But id be using if its graco the number 4 or 5 set. Take a look at the other hvlp videos i have on set up etc to get an idea.
If its a different brand then id use a 1.8.mm minimum, possible a 2.0mm or 2.2mm.
But you generally need to thin a little and it will work alot better, stops it spraying splattery
Bit of a longer one but im using crown gloss here
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Do you mind telling us what products you were spraying? Have you ever sprayed Sherwin Williams Emerald Urethane Trim Enamel with the 9.5?
Hi im using a brand called Tikkurila. The primer is Akva and tinted to the colour. The top coat is Helmi 30. Waterborne coatings. No ive never used any sherwin williams, not sure its around in the UK. I have a quick start guide to hvlp which should show up at the end of the video. Same principles of spraying should apply to most paints though
Ya gotta thin the emerald down and use a suuuper good water base primer
I am using emerald with extreme bond primer. How did your project go?
I sprayed with Graco 9.5 with minimum thin down (4oz / gallon)works on any primer but lacquer base.
Hi mate could you use this graco to spray upvc windows and doors? Thanks
Hey. Yes absolutely. The 5 stage turbines are plenty powerful enough. This is about a 10m hose with the wipe connected so should reach 1st floor with machine on the ground.
If i were spraying alot of material id be using the pressure pot see video below
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@@sprayaholic Thanks for the reply very much appreciated, great page by the way 👍🏼
@@BusterBloodVessel1 thanks for the support. I share a few other thinks on my Instagram page too
Hi Mate hope all is good, I have a kitchen coming up ( melamine) looking to use the tikkurilla Otex, which one would you go for, the solvent or akva, for my top coat im going to use everal akva 40 semi matt enamel, ar ethese paints strong enough for melamine, thanks
Hey bud. I used akva and helmi 10 on this one. I would say theyre never as durable as a proper paint like 2k. I always give client a few options for products. Smells, durability and time frames etc.
Should be fine with either. Personally i like to remove yhe vinyl as it fails over time. If its mdf underneath not chip board.
But you can paint on after some prep. Whitsons primer is made for melamine i think and is also good. But i havnt used otex oil. Only heard good things though
@@sprayaholic Thanks mate, only used otex oil on a staircase 2 weeks, stuck like shit to a blanket, spoke to tikurilla rep and he recommended those two products on melamine, but reps always push their own products always nice to get a 2nd opinion, havent used 2k yet, are they ok to run through a hvlp, or will it be best through an airless, thank you for you kind help i do appreciate it👍
@@thedalz5308 ah these doors are wood not melamine too.
2k paints are fast dryinh but harmful fumes. So need proper setnup and not ideal for spraying in homes as it gases off for about a week.
Caparol gear is nice to use also
@@sprayaholic ah right, Yeh those 2k paints can be a bit naughty, but doing a job last week and the kitchen fitter used MSF and sprayed 2k, he did it all, but chips are appearing, but if i can recommend anything id say the otex solvent, good stuff and you can top coat with water based
@@thedalz5308 I'll give it a go. It shouldnt be chipping though
hi, i recently purchase that machine but i have 2 problems when using gun attached to the little container only come air but not paint do you know why? , and when i use the pot it works perfectly fine finish only with the primer but when i use the finish coat it doesn't look good , like a little texture it is because of pressure or what i am doing wrong, i am really frustrating because it was very expensive, please give some ideas thank you
hi, have you got the hoses connected in the right way? i will add a video as soon as i get time to show how to connect a pressure pot correctly.
Also primers do spray nicer than top coats, you may need to thin the coating a little or warm the paint. you dont want too much air as youll dry the paint if its not the right atomisation and it will dry rough. you also need to be applying enough paint so that it levels into its self. oftn people dont apply enough paint and the thin coveraged paired witht he warm air blowing out it will give a rough finish
@@sprayaholic what is the right pressure in the pot that should set up ? ,
Ik this is an old video but how is the finish after it is dried? Is it alot better than if i was to spray with just a regular electric grayco sprayer?
Do you mean an airless? You can get a great finish with airless on kitchens too
@@sprayaholic yes an airless but im wondering if the difference is very noticable? Ive been spraying with an airless for many years now and can fo a good finish but lately people have been telling me to try out a finefinish graco sprayer for a better finish
@Vitaley Simonovich well the tips have changed alot over the years and now offer a finer spray and.more control. You get alot of control with hvlp and aaa. But an airless and the right tip is great too. I use even numbered tips for woodwork. Such as 210 310 fflp or tritech ultra tips
Hi Simon. Can I ask have you sprayed Dulux diamond satinwood through your HVLP ?
I have but not for a long time. How come, you struggling? Ive been thinking about doing a bit of a series where i show spraying and settinh up with loads of different paints and showing the finish too
@@sprayaholic hi simon. I ve got a staircase in an empty house . Bannister is fair size, doors, frames. So I thought I’d use the gxff but having just seen your video I wondered if HVLP be better option
@@stevenmcfarlane8831 both will work. You'll probs use less with hvlp and can control the fan more, it will be slower.
Airless will be fast and you'll be done in no time. If youre protecting carpets youd want to use a sheet of correx behind the other side of the handrail to catch the overspray... hvlp may give more of a dust cloud.
Cover up any smoke detectors. I think my preference now may be to use the airless... i guess the bonus with hvlp is you could do a lighter coat , then a minute or 2 later spray a normal coat and they'll bond and youve covered. Downside i see is people don't apply enough paint with the hvlp
@@sprayaholic great advice. I always value your comments and experience mate, take care sir.
@@stevenmcfarlane8831 appreciate the support bud. Happy to help as always take it easy ✌
When i doubt take both machines and swal half way through 🤣
Hi mate looking to try Tikki Helmi next week. When u scratch the door in the vid with ur nail it leaves a mark. I've noticed this with Caperol PU. Do u find the Helmi cures over time or could the customer always mark the doors like this. Only paint I've found that doesn't is 2pk n I want to try n find a durable waterbased system!
Hey bud. Thats actually the primer im scratching not the top coat. I prefer the caparol pu to helmi.
Depends on the sheen. I think most waterbased flat finishes would do it. Benjamin moore scuff x is good and doesnt do it anywhere near as much . But like you say theyre no where near the durability of 2pk.
I give people options and depends on each job. Is it heavy used kitchen. Will it be banged alot etc or is it going to be kept in good condition for years.
You could always take the doors away and spray in 2k and onsite spray or roll in the other parts in a colour match product.
Loads using renner now, something to look into
@@sprayaholic I've used advanced but not tried scuff X yet. I've seen the renner stuff n it is good gear. Will try it myself on the next big job. Some of my jobs only need 1l though so I was trying the Caparol, Tikki stuff cus it's easy to get hold of in small and large quantities. Might just get the 5kg 643 n look into tinting it for other small jobs. Only other thing putting me off the Renner was I could only see it in 10 and 20% sheen (760/762). Unless I've missed summat?
@@lukecolgrave3917 ive not looked into it yet. Waiting to get a new workshop before i jump on it ha. Advance is lovely, scuff x is great too. Its expensive though and guess with spraying you could possibly build up more coats of somethings else. Ha too many options out there. Plus scuff X only comes in the 3.7L tins
@@sprayaholic yeah mate the BM stuff aint cheap! Guna av a play about with the Helmi next week 10,30, 80. See what they spray like. Just using HVLP at the min but looking to buy airless next month! Was checking out the gxff. That's how come I found ur channel. Looks like plenty of good content mate 👍 I presume it's all on here some where but av u got any bigger sprayers? Will only be getting used for kitchens n fitted furniture but heard mixed reviews about the ff n ppl upgrading not long after buyin.
@@lukecolgrave3917 nice one appreciate the support. Ye ive got loads ha. Graco 390 was my main airless for years and is in most videos. The gxff. Got a graco 695 tritech T7 some qtech units, titan, wagner, hvlps if i haven't got it ive probably used it.
The helmi sprays nice i used helmi 80 alot over the years. I'll be doing a mini series on the gxff next
Cleaning, usage etc
What air pressure do you use and material if you can tell me thank you
Take a look at this video for my usual settings
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What paint do you use for your kitchen doors and units?
It depends on the job. Ive used Tikkurila and caparol alot over the last few years. I think next year I'll move more to renner or those types of paints.
What paints you using for the upvc? Selemix, or are you kolorbond
@@sprayaholic selemix is the best
@@lincsupvcspraypainting9521 yep. Great gear
Is borah the actor a painter now ?
What is your price you charge per doors, drawers and cabinet frame ? Greetings from Chicago!
hi, prices vary so much from different regions. how much would a new kitchen cost, then offer maybe a 10% of the cost of a new one
@@sprayaholic I appreciate your take on that. I am new to cabinet work. Thanks for the content!
How do you like that machine? I really like mine,just cant understand why it get so hot to touch on the power side. I did a shed roll up door with some Sherwin Williams pro industial. Couldnt touch the box of machine for like 45mins? Too hot.
Hi thanks for watching.
All the hvlp turbines ive had in the past got hot. Its a moving part and feeds warm air to the hose so it does get hot.
I love it had it since before the release and i made a few videos on it already.
@@sprayaholic ok, this is my first quality hvlp. Thaks for reply,just got done watching the conversion for pressure pot also. I think I'll convert my free edge plus for that .they gave me a mail in card for a free 2nd gun setup with purchase.
@@charlesz5114 nice, the pressure pot is great too
@@charlesz5114 i made a quick set up guide its a longer video but a good watch if youre starting out
@@sprayaholic When the turbine compresses the air the air gets hot. It’s the same as with pumps for bicycles.
What kind of paint are you using in the doors
Im using Tikkurila akva primer mixed to the finish colour. Then top coated in helmi 10