Graco 9.5 HVLP Finish Pro Sprayer Demo. Spraying Doors + upside down
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- čas přidán 17. 05. 2017
- Graco 9.5 HVLP finish pro sprayer demo.
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This was an out the box first test so im simply showing it in use before I got to grips with the unit. I would normally be using the larger needle and also slightly thinning material. I used the needle and tip that was already in, this was a 3. New videos are on my channel now with it in use with different set ups.
I had the old model Graco 9.5 turbo force and the machine was great but bulky although the gun let it down. The new Graco edge 2 plus gun is great and very easy to use with plenty of settings.
A quick demo of me using the Graco Finish Pro 9.5 hvlp, 5 stage unit. Using Caparol Haft primer unthinned. Spraying 2 doors, then at the end i spray upside down just to show you it can be used in any direction. Great machine with alot of power, and easy to use. The smart start is a great addition to the machine. You can connect 2 x 9m hoses to have an 18m hose if you needed. It comes with a 1,2m whip hose and a 3,4 and 5 tip and needle set.
Check out a recent video I made spraying Zinsser BIN, quick settings for great results - czcams.com/video/u8WRpjY3l30/video.html
Ive seen your newer videos using the machine and just bought one second hand. Followed your tips and getting great results
Great thanks for watching. Any issues just ask
It all improves when you use the right needle and tip size with this HVLP. Too many people try to spray it at package
consistency with too small an orifice. Go to the # 4 0r 5 orifice to spray heavier acrylics. Turn up air to full, have fluid/fan pattern full size.
You will move faster, get better hide. Regulate how close to the surface you spray, watch it go on to avoid too light a coat or how much orangepeel your getting. Stop tinkering spraying it like some airbrush, put it on in layers. One quick light coat at first, have good air circulation to dry out some of the water in first coat. When the acrylic appears about 60-70 % dry, then spray another
medium coat. The water in this second coat will melt into the first and they will smooth out to give a nice finished look.
Some paints need 10-15 % water. Spray a sample card that is glossy paper, see how much material you can spray on it, stand the card vertical, see how far you can apply material until it runs. Never spray a full door to do this test with a water reduced waterbase paint. Remember, layer these materials and see how your hide of the color works for you over a primer or previous darker base color. If you thin right, put in on right, it can work out better than trying to squeeze out too heavy a material with a small tip size.
hugot12 thanks for the reaponce. this was just a test to try it unthinned and it worked well. i used the 4 and 5 later that week with the satin top coat. if id had air on full and fluid on full it would have been abit too misty in the room and i didnt want that. i normally dilute around 10% to 15% with my 4 stage and this 5 stage.
nothing wrong with doing these door like that. it kept overspray to a minimum and a nice finish on the doors. if im in domestic properties again i wouldn't have air on full id move slower to let there be less overspray.
alot of people moving from airless to hvlp i think dont like the process of thinning or playing with settings as airless is near enough point and shoot.
but yes alot dont think to move up needles, instead dilute too much with water, i think its because standard guns come with the 1.3mm. so do you have this machine, guessing youre in the states?
I have the 9.5 Graco , usually to atomize the heavier acrylics you usually still need most all the air you can. But if as you say trying not to get too much overspray , a smaller fan pattern but more passes
is of course best as you say. There always the best balance between tip size, air/fluid pressure material viscosity, type of solvent or waterborne material, temp, distance from work. You know the drill.
I,m in Calif ,I,m 42 yrs a painting contractor, mostly spraying it all.
I,m not going to do much production with HVLP but the new FFLP Graco tips may solve alot of problems.
I use this setup HVLP with the remote cup and Graco Pro Comp kit
You know seperate air supply for fluid and cup free gun setup.
Kitchen cabinet doors ,furniture , wherever you dont want less control and need a fine finish without spits. Thats where these HVLP shine.
If you want to add a specialty to your business try the countertop coatings that go directly over worn formica . (multispec)
looks like granite. 80% less the cost of countertop replacements
Go to www.hawklabs.com under countertop refinishing coatings
Before I close my website www.countertopcoatings.net look at the samples. This is a great business if you need something new
The HVLP turbine is all you need to apply these durable coating and its more fun than regular painting (no more baseboards)
This is the most informative comment I have read on CZcams. I have this sprayer, thank you.
Great advice and your comments are spot on. whats the best color sample card for the poly waterbased. I having a tough time seeing the poly pattern, driving me nuts. And I was using it like a airbrush so I moved from a #2 to #4 and added 10 percent water and got even finish. Now Im trying to learn to put heavy coats on without drips. Seems like almost anything with GRACO HLVP 9.5 needs to be thinned. When you say air full and fluid at gun where is the machine set at?
EL GRINGO LOCO ! The hose it comes with is like your whip hose length, it matches the length needed to hook a strap over your shoulder for the quart cup , or hold the handle in your left hand if using your right hand to spray. I like it for finer work and having separate cup air pressure that won’t steal air from your main air hose which diminishes air volume for paint atomization. Those graco fflp airless tips are so nice, very low pressure needed. 50% less , almost no overspray. I will only use hvlp for painting bathtubs, automotive spraying and multi spec countertop coatings and furniture coatings. Hope that helps
You are the cleanest worker ever i've seen
nice demo I prefer the 395 fp 2 flat tip for production but the turbine system is great to have. Airless, Air assisted and Turbine are three great tools to have
Very impressive.... quick as well
That machine looks beautiful to use,
Thanks for the post.
Thanks. This was when it first came out. Ive made newer videos using it, great machine
Got a leak in my gun and only used second time I am completely pissed off
Amazing machines, I've had the very old 4900 ProComp for 15 years and just ordered the new 9.5 Pro Comp; seems there are no videos of that unit on CZcams yet.
Ignore all the people who don't get hvlp turbines, people want fast work these days and aren't willing to learn these new systems and their ability to leave almost zero overspray in a furnished home.
Joe Villarreal appreciate the comment Joe. thanks. yes i know what you mean, some people only use airless and anything else is poor in their opinion. i started on hvlp and moved to airless but i love hvlp its so accurate and detailed with so little overspray if tuner down. you will definitely be impressed with the unit and new gun. i will be doing more videos witg it when i get time
I like the way you reason, I really like your videos
Great video buddy
Just bought one thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching. Check out my newer videos for hvlp set up guide.
Oh I didn't see your other videos you have a graco 595 finish pro... Wow that's very nice way better.
Hi, please tell me which device is better to buy for painting stucco, ceiling and floor skirting boards, small areas of walls and ceilings in apartments. There are two options and this is Graco Procontactor 9.5 and Fuji Mini Mite 4. Graco costs more in Russia, and Fuji is cheaper, but if you buy additional needles, a flexible hose, a system of disposable cups from 3m, then the price will be the same. Which one is better to buy? A little later I want to do restorations of wooden furniture and maybe this information will help you advise which of them to buy
it could be used in any direction ?
I wanted one of these the 9.5 top of the range with a quart remote cup as well but was told it will be late September at the earliest, if so I will get something else, dont understand why it should take so long to get to the uk
I use a number 4 needle, air 3/4 with paint diluted 10% with latex extender (no water) so the paint levels out perfectly and I paint a door almost as fast as an airless sprayer.
Edgar Gutierrez yes i have for the last few months just been using the 4 and 5 needle. So much better and yes you can go at some speed aswel.. i did a few demos last weem comparing speed to airless and it was interesting
latex extender isnt meant to be used at 10 % ,mostly we use acrylics to be thinned with water 10 %
You should be using XIM extender a clear material. Using these wet edge extenders leave the paint more succeptable to runs as they arent like water. They were meant to leave the drying window open longer than water.
Best to use more air at closer to package consistency. Larger tip size for heavier acrylics. Latex is for walls , not durable or smooth spraying like a fine ground acrylic resin material for trim.
Latex sprayed over tape when removed can pull the layer off as a sheet, acrylic is not made that way, it will seperate cleanly. Layer your topcoats if using 10% water, overspray is expected especially if doing doors with a wider fan pattern. Thats why we are painters, we cover up the area for overspray anyway. If your wanting to do production with waterborne products, I suggest air assisted airless. I,m 42 years a painting contractor, I was spraying with all these sprayers before anyone knew what they were. I now spray multispec countertop granite like materials with catalyzed clearcoats of acrylic urethane. Bathtubs as well to get a porcelain finish with GRaco HVLP Procomp remote cup.
Having the gun free of any cup is so nice
@@hugot12 just new to spraying. I picked up my Graco HVLP 9.5 ProComp this week. Love your replies, you sound like a boss. Such solid points behind your statements, you clearly have years of experience with spraying. Appreciate your advice, thanks man
amazing friend."
Great demo,
Willem Groothedde thanks for the great feedback 🤘🏻
Whats youre experiance with te caparol Nast system, i have A Xvlp spray gun from Wagner but never Did capparol Nast paint for Doors.
Willem Groothedde no i havnt tried the nast paints yet or the actual machine. i will be testing it out shortly though 🖒
Will keep in touch than, hope you make a lot of vids like this. Thnx
Willem Groothedde thanks for the support. yes loads to follow. if you subscribe it wikl let you know when ive put new videos up 🖒
Hi where can this product be purchased in the uk
Hi again me , I would like to paint kitchen cabinets end I think to dilute a bit the paint (10%) and to use a FFLP 308 or 310 tip in order to obtain a better quality as well as hedge vlp.
So I just want a advise about, will be wealthy or I should use the HVLP instead.
I will like to use dulux diamond eggshell which is very good paint for kitchen cabinets.
I don't have yet the " Graco Ultra Max Cordless Handheld Airless Sprayer " but I want buy it tomorrow, I just have a big Graco machine which I never use for furniture just for wall and ceilings.
Regards Michael
You look just like pro
Is the Machine is very expensive?
Are you spraying the solvent based or acrylic?
How clean u did that
HI , Great video thanks for sharing, I have the same spray system, and use Tikarilla paints through it. I find I don't get much overspray / mist with the primer, however when I use the topcoat I find I get a lot of mist, is this normal ? I mainly work in domestic properties so would be good if i can control the mist a bit.
Also what setting do you have the spray gun on ? I dilute the paint by 10% and warm paint, the machine is also set to 4.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Toby
hey thanks. sorry hadnt seen any message notifications. you probably already have the answer but if now. yes you will often find the pimers spray nicer and easier to get a nice fan. the top coats can have sliht different settings and be dustier. try warming the paint up. i use a rice cooker and sit the paint in water in it. warm the paint the easier it flows.
i made a new hvlp video helping with basic set ups for spraying satin
Do you use your machine for frames and skirting? How do you get on if the carpets are staying down
Yes i do. Tape the carpets. And then bring tape and brown paper. Or packexe up to the skirts and join up with tape
Excelent
Thanks. Do you know if there's a bigger cup size? After using it, would you say this is one of the better hvlp sprayers, and relatively straight forward to use?
O kafka the 5 stage units are one of the most powerful. The gun is great. Ive used a fuji Q5
Also great but you get 3 tips and needles witg the graco so more for your money.. you can buy the pressurr pot verion. Pro comp version. It comes with a 2L pot and means the gun has two hoses connected and not pot underneath. So if you're wanting to spray more thats a better option i think. They have a few settings but once you get the hang of it theyre so good to use and very controllable
I have fuji q5 way quieter, and I have the finish pro 9.5 both are excellent, however the graco comes with pressure pot so u need not a bigger cup, and far more versatile for spraying in cabinets etc...holding more.product, less change overs
after spraying a door or two does the machine get hot at the hose end of the machine?
sorry for delay my notifications were off. if i can help now i will. yes it does get hot. the air heats the hose and makes it more flexible make the ends get hot yes, the machines get warm too. but its normal
I have a question for you. Im thinking about picking one of these up to expand the business. Have you ever used it with a product called tub and tire. Its for refinishing tubs or tile counter tops. If so have did the machine hold up
sergio martinez hey. Iv got some of that at home. Ive never run it through the sprayer but im 90% sure it would spray. Even if it was thinned slightly
So roughly 10 meters squared then?
Is there a bigger cup size?
O kafka it depends as youre in control of how much is put on. But possibly yes. Ive never measured it
Hi mate , looking at getting hvlp just for upvc , composite doors etc I’d say purely just be putting kolorbond through it do you think this would be ideal, only ever used airless so new to hvlp
T T hey mate turbine hvlp be fine know loads using them. I have a fuji Q4 for sale at the moment. You can see a vid of that in action if you look at my vids. £600 if interested got it advertised at £650 at the mo. Kust over 1k new.
Sprayaholic thanks mate but think got my heart set on a graco 👍🏻
T T right on. No worries pal. Cant go wrong with fuji or graco.. drop me a message on my instagram or facebook page if you need any help or change your mind 😎. Thanks for watching the channel
Nice but why not a airless sprayer with a fine tip? Is it because its a small project? Or you like the hvlp better?
Hank Hill hi. I made this video before many people had one in the UK so was a demo of the unit really. I like hvlp yes, but i do use the fflp tips. You have alot of control with hvlp for different jobs etc
This gun cannot beat Binks Trophy series
Do you get any lag with this system? I currently spray paint doors and windows and take a 50l compressor round with me to spray off a normal air assisted set up. I’m spending so much time waiting for the pressure to build right up again and thinking one of these would solve that issue. Am I right in thinking you could pull the trigger in and it’ll be constant same pressure until you let go? Hope that makes sense thanks
Hey thanks for watching. Check out these other latest videos of me using it. Yes it is straight away. But that first 1 or 2 seconds on trigger pull will make it then drop to its constant pressure. So i pull for air then 1 second later start. I dont start on a piece and just pull as you'll have that pressure dip straight away.
Fantastic units
@@sprayaholic cool thanks for your reply. So in theory you could keep that trigger pulled in for minutes on end to do a large area for example and never have to wait for the unit to catch up because it doesn’t drop stored air like a compressor?
@@woodywhippet yes that's right. You pull for air and then the next resistance on the trigger is paint. So i always keep the air running and just let go for paint. Heres a play list i forgot to add.
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@@sprayaholic spot on appreciate that cheers big help
Great video. How would you compare Graco to Fuji Q4 that you also reviewed? Which machine is better any preferences to the gun?
Dariusz Skowronski hi mate thanks for watching the videos.
well i use both. i like the Q series fujis. the Q stands for quiet so on domestic jobs its a lower hum noise so not as loud. the q4 is a 4 stage and the graco is a 5 stage. tge 4 stage is 9psi. the 5stage is 5stage but has a power adjustable dial. it has a longer hose and the new style gun.
both great machibes and i use both. graco mainly in the workshop and q4 out on jobs. a 3 stage is around 6psi to 6.5psi generally so its a big jump in power to a 4 stage. also the graco has the smart start like in the video so shuts on and off. great feature. it also has great air flow due to the massive air filter. id always say get the best if money allows. so the new graco 9.5 but the fuji Q4 and Q5 are brilliant also. i like the fuji Gxpc gun which you can select as an option if you bought fuji. fuji sell at axminster tools if youre in the uk. and the graco from your dealers.
so ye both great units but i ooce the graco. both need minimal thinning
Sprayaholic thank you for your feedback! Now I need to save some cash. lol
Dariusz Skowronski haha ye. try ebay and local selling sites. ive picked a few cheap ones up b3fore and just bought a new gun. but you will make the money back in your first few jobs 🤘🏻
Sprayaholic Will do thanks :-)
helpful
Hi Sprayaholic is the quality of finish for trim and doors the same with a airless cordless FFLP tip 310, or there can be seen some ORANGE SKIN Thanks very much. Regards Michael
Michael Einstein hey. You can get s fine finish with it yes. Nice and flat. But you can also get a really flat finish with the FFLP tips with airless. Alot more control and variation witg the hvlp though
Thanks again
Really helpful video, thanks. I'm looking for a HVLP for wood trim and doors. Is this Graco 9.5 the best option in this price bracket? Can you recommend a really good water based satin available in the UK that sprays well?
thanks for watching. apologies all my comment notifications were off.
If i can help now let me know. but i mainly use tikkurilla, caparol both spray great. both waterbased. the 9.5 is best for what it comes with. the cheaper units which are 5 stage probably dont come wiht as many extras. but fuji and the others are still good units. so long as you have a couple of different needle sizes youll be good. and atleast a 4 stage unit
Hi mate great video thanks 👏🏼 would the graco 9.5 contractor pro Hvlp be ok for Upvc Spraying do you think?
Thanks. Ive got many newer videos using the hvlp if you havnt seen those yet. Yes absolutely it will work for upvc. I know many who use them instead of compressor set ups. Ive used it too
That’s brilliant mate thanks for the reply, I’ve currently got the xvlp Wagner but I’m really liking the look of the graco 9.5 contractor pro for my upvc spraying, I’m thinking of using Kolorbond, what settings on the graco edge 2 gun would you say would be best for using Kolorbond?
I really appreciate your help 😊
@@BusterBloodVessel1 each day may be different really. A compressor set up would be cheaper.. if you wanted to see other options too sprayman UK would advice you as they sell all options.
Does it spit like an airless when you start and stop?
sorry all my comments havnt been showing. If you hadnt got an answer. no it doesnt, it will only spit if the needle is not closing. so airless is the same. but airless is mainly on and off. hvlp you can pull a little and it sprays a little.
Y leave the door knob on? Best if you adjust the paint a lil add a little floetrol I do love hvlps more for lacquer or oil .
I purchased today this unit , I have to paint a big house with lots of trims and paneling also I have an airless sprayer, I did try jhonstons aqua undercoat untined tip size 3 result heavy orange peel , I have to get nr 2 tip or 1 for better finish or to ad some water? Thanks
What sort of area can you cover with one pot?
O kafka hi i think this video shows 5 door sides. So 2.5 doors. But you'll use alot less paint than with an airless
Hi, is this type of machine purely for trim work etc or could it be used to spray rooms? I've had a wagner control pro but its given up the ghost at the worst possible time (typical!!) I'm looking for a replacement that may do all jobs or does that not exist?! Thank you and great videos!
Hey. No i wouldn't use hvlp as youd be filling the cup up so much and also youd be clouded with dust.
Take a look at this unit. Budget airless. Airless can do woodwork too. Take a look at me doinb woodwork here
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@@sprayaholic thank you mate, so do you just get a better finish on trim if using hvlp over airless? Or just less overspray! Thanks again for the reply
@Michael Chapman not necessarily. Airless it comes down to the tip being used. And paints. You can get a great finish with airless
Have u used the capspray 115 and if u how do u compare it to the Fuji u had used .and how loud is it in comparison
sorry all my notifications had been off. i know its a late reply haha but capspray is decent its a little quieter. the fuji Q series were tthe lowest hum of all i found. the guns are all nice. i still have the capspray gun fuji too. but i do like the graco gun.
@@sprayaholic all in all in your opinion between a capspray 95 and a fuji minimite 5 which one would u purchase over the other and why ?
@@davidilijevski8942 i love the mini mite and fuji series. Although the Q5 is alot quieter hum.
The mini mite is a 5 stage turbine 9.5psi.. titan one says its a 4 stage and 9.5psi.
i would probably go for fuji as ive used it more and i do like the fuji guns more than the capspray gun. if its the t70 series guns they are really nice from fuji and the units seem more well made.
Im in the UK so mainly wagner is over here not titan. depends where youre based and what parts are more accessible such as needles and parts
@@sprayaholic thanks a lot i have been looking at some and im from canada and noticed the fuji is made here and they have great reviews. Appreciate all your help thanks again .
@@davidilijevski8942 ye fuji is a really good brand. also consider customer service. Thats why i like graco as the customer service over here is excellent and i like the macines. the capspray will do the job also. i did a new video with the hvlp and set up if you needed an idea of how best t set up. same principle with all units.
Look into door deckers you can spray both sides at the same time and stack upto 20 doors at once out of the way
Yes i have and the stack rack. But isnt it a struggle if youre on your own
i can barely see the finish product bro?
What paint did you use
This was caparol pu satin and the primer
Hi bud thanks for posting up vids very informative and good to watch, I see you have also used the fuji which of these two machines would you say is the better one and why? I am looking to purchase something to spray water based polyurethane sealers and also solvent based sealers, where can you purchase the Graco one from in the UK? Thanks steve.
Dartmoorwonderer hi mate thanks for watching. well i use both i have a Q4 fuji and all the guns. the gxpc is one of my faves as its light, small and has a swivel cup. its personal preference. thr new smart start gravos are a great feature and the new guns are also great. i still use both the fuji Q series is quieter but both great units. depends what your budget is
Sprayaholic budget isn't a issue it's the reliability of a good finish portability and reliability. will be used on site most of the time. would like to try both to see which is best but don't know where I can get demos for these units from.
Dartmoorwonderer graco have been touring the uk demoing all the near gear. where abouts are you located and ill find out if someone is coming near you or iff they could. the 110v graco hvlp comes out September time. im only 1 of few who have this unit in the UK. axminster tools are fuji stockists but again that depends where you are. if you can afford the best then get the best. the top graco hvlp comes with 9m hose. whip. 3,4 and 5 needle sets. again theyre both brill units. you could get the graco unit which has rge new gun and then buy a different branded gun to use also. theyre generally all interchangeable so long as you buy turbine guns. so you could buy a fuji gun for the graco etc. alot will argue theyd buy the fuji Q5 because its a few hundred quid cheaper. iv had a q5 also and yes its great they do the job but im a graco fan. i use graco in workshop and the fuji on domestics then have guns for oil and wb etc.
Sprayaholic thanks for the detailed reply I live in EX226FJ which is the middle of nowhere I can visit Axminster tools do they demo up there.
thanks much appreciated
Dartmoorwonderer oh bude way? think you just missed the guys down here not sure theyd be bacl down for a few month. im based in cornwall and could show you a few machines if you were ever down that way pal 😎
Have a leak from the black screw on to the cup only used twice completely dissatisfied for what I payed for it and barely used
Are the threads covered in paint? You have to push down until you hear it click and then its on the thread. I have heard a small amount of people have issues. Approach the retailer and see if theres an issue and possible return
@@sprayaholic no completely clean I have 3 turbines a airlessco and 12 other spray guns spent over 2,300 on this barley used and leaked on the job in its second use ,it’s just poorly made plastic and a plastic ring to seal
Why did you leave the door handles on and no
Screws were threaded
I doubled up on my response to your question, thought the first reply didnt post.
I speak to alot of Graco Reps they arent all that knowledgable but I do get some here in Calif that are sharp. If you need any help before spending alot of money on equipt, talk to me I like sharing info about this equipt. Are you in England or Ireland ?
I'm in Ireland
I have the Graco 9.0 pro series the problem I have is to clean the gun after you paint something I will buy a Fuji gun and keep the graco 9.0 and will sell the gun.
Why whats the problem? Clean up is probably faster. Throw the cup? Needle comes out with out tools. I could clean this faster than my fuji gun
I was looking at this unit for spraying/painting a car. Any chance if anyone knows if this is able to lay down some base/clear in a quality fashion?
Gotallofthem1 no sure mate. guess they use the compressors and guns as theyre more powerful and can lay on alot faster.
but maybe you could with the right needle and dilution as tge products are very watery
is it original.
Why dint you take the handles and hinges off?
Very sweet (;)) but when you demonstrating to painting a withe door you should paint that with different colour!! So we can see the line too (;((( if you know what I'm mean !??
Thanks for watching. Yes a colour change would show alot better. I will make a new video soon
If you look at my previous videos you see a fuji q4 spraying a door in a different colour. Please subscribe
How can we buy this ????
What country are you in?
Sprayaholic kuwait
@@user-cm6dn8mb9f if you check out www.graco.com and then navigate sthe top right to how to buy and find distributors and you should find some help there
🌹Thanks alot
@@user-cm6dn8mb9f no problem hope you find some info there
So easy *_*
that new edge gun is suppose to be able to adjust fan width, how does that work if you are using a heavy material and want to narrow the fan ? Does it put too much material on ?
I was thinking that might be helpful with lighter viscosity materials and a smaller tip size
so as to put less on on more detailed surfaces where you have to spray at many angles
to get coverage while having a smaller fan pattern . Let me know how that works out
I own 3 of the original edge guns and know its all about tip sizes and spray distance for the surface area. Wonder why Graco would make this new gun just to please the fussy guys that dont understand all the factors when needing that extra adjustment on a new gun. I,m in Calif 42 yrs a painting contractor mostly spraying everything over those years
I actually painted a few cars with my 9.5 Graco I have the Pro Comp kit , you know air comp seperate to supply fluid to a cupless gun. Cabinet doors , furniture , where a fine finish ultimate control is needed. The Graco FFLP tips solve almost all airless spraying problems, especially spraying doors at better speeds and a great finish.
If you want to see where these HVLP's shine look at my countertop coating samples
www.countertopcoatings.net before I close that website. Granite like durable coatings sprayed directly over worn formica in 4 hrs. Really fun and profitable specialty to add to your painting company. 80 % less the cost of countertop replacement.
www.hawklabs.com where you can see countertop refinishing materials
I would actually spray the inside of cabinets with the airless pressure closer to 1000-1,200 psi with the new FFLP tips, then spray the outside doors and frames with the HVLP .
I'll have to tell you back in 1981 Graco came to me and another fine finish painter to setup a mock air assisted airless unit. I was using a binks gun with flat tips and a wagner gravity fed bucket diaphram sprayer with a 2 piston constant air flow compressor.
That was mostly oil base industrial enamels, not waterborne materials.
We had too much fluid fall off for our wider fan pattern while spraying doors with this
Air assisted airless system. So now the Graco Finish Pro with an air pump and smart control piston unit is the result of us pioneers out there. The best unit of Graco
is using their Mercur air driven airless pump with the G-40 gun with the internal mix
spray nozzle and flat tips to spray acrylic paint un thinned. The G-40 with the air mixed outside with the reversable RAC X tips dries the acrylic paint on the cap too much and fouls up the spray pattern eventually. Problem is if you get flat tip plug ups , its more time consuming to clean them out. I.m looking to use my knowledge in spray equiptment to possibly be a Rep for a company called TrItech industries. American made special airless sprayers, check them out. Ok for now hope the best for you, let me know how that fan adjustment on the new gun goes before I need to buy another gun.
I purchased today this unit , I have to paint a big house with lots of trims and paneling also I have an airless sprayer, I did try jhonstons aqua undercoat untined tip size 3 result heavy orange peel , I have to get nr 2 tip or 1 for better finish or to ad some water? Thanks
Amigo
Buy the whip! That's a heavy hose to lug around!
Its connected. It comes with the unit
I had one of them for a while, but in the end its far too slow, and a lot messier than airless. You'll find a lot more mess to clean up later using one of them. They look good at the graco show, but inside houses, just expensive, slow, messy. Airless with the FF tips you have next to no problems, and if you do its usually filter / tip or pressure related. Those HVLP's there are so many different problems you can have. Then there is the noise factor, which if you're in a customers house you dont want that thing running all day.
Wes T paintninjagc never had an issue with mess. you can dial the pressure right down to practically zero over spray for doing spindles etc. its quieter than older models and is great for fine finish work. if youre creatinh alot of overspray your airs on too high. perfect for use in house's where people are living as it is less messy than airless. again you just need to know how to set it up. agree its slower than airless obviously but theyre not that slow. thin the paint a little or heat it up. alot more to know when using #hvlp as its not just point and shoot
disagree mate, airless all the way, or air assist airless. Use airless in furnished houses, i'd paint near a black grand piano, no worries whatsoever.
Wes T paintninjagc everyone is different. spraying is new to alot of UK guys and many start with hvlp. you use less material and can have more control if youre new to it. each has its place and obviously cost is a factor aswel.
Sprayaholic have u used the capspray and the Fuji hvlp spray systems aswell
Not saying anyone else is wrong or right, but to me airless and hvlp are two different tools for two different types of work. I couldn’t use hvlp to spray a stack of doors, it’s just painfully slow. That’s what fine finish low pressure airless tips are for. And I wouldn’t use an airless gun even with fine finish tips to spray kitchen cabinets, that’s what an hvlp is for. I’m not sure why people try and compare them when they are completely different tools. Someone who paints for a living should really own both hvlp and airless (plus air assisted and cordless if you really are into spray work) and learn how to use them properly. If you spray as part of your living, buy the right tools, not just one gun and hope it can do everything for you. They are tools that make you money, use the tool that does the best job at the correct speed and that should make you more money, right?
Just my opinion, use whatever you’re happy using.
I use airless is faster. Less work
Satin?!
Matte?!
Satin. I did some newer videos using the hvlp
@@sprayaholic Thanks 🌹🙏
Nice! Dont hit your head on the door frame dude. #Noladdersforthisguy
Its loud
This is an old video. And its the phone mic and an empty room so very echoy. But they turbines are probably like having a hoover on. If you want a quiet model the fuji Q5 is a quieter hum. Great units also.
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not that impressed ive got airless spray machines and do new build houses but by the time youve set it up and blowing all the dust up when your spraying the floor aswell then cleaning any decent pricework painter would easily paint 3 doors faster
allan pemberton you cant paint 2 coats on doors faster with hand. cleaning time is very low. if youre house bashing the quality isnt the same as high end price work
oil based or water based
allan pemberton well it doesn't matter boths faster. if oil you can spray while its picking up. if you brushed youd ruin the finish. wb faster still.
if you hoovered around there would be no blow up either and again by the time it takes to mask. youd be over taken on the second coat going on walls and ceilings. finishing alot faster and with alot less strain on the body.
what machines do you use
so when u spray gloss/satinwood to a finish theres no bits in the finish i think there will be. so if a touch up if needed for a snag will look dogshit or spray again witch could have the flooring down and do the contractors want to pay for a full side of door.. example can you touch your car door up
allan pemberton why would there be bits in the finish? its in the prep and cleaning that gets the best finish. You can touch in with foam rollers or pads. it probably takes all of 5minutes to mask up minimal. brown paper or lining paper on the floor. 12inch paper around the side. if you wanted to re spray.
LVLP never HVLP :P
If you've got a compressor set up though
This gun may be called hvlp, but I am pretty sure ist will never ensure appropriate air volume for hvlp spec. Ist really looks like lvlp with hvlp marketing
Esto es relativo puedes tener una buena maquina de esprayar pero si no la sabes usar de la manera correcta de nada te sirve yo uso una titan 440 y me queda un acabado maravilloso.
HVLP is for spraying lacquers and stains. Airless sprayers are for painting. That paint he is spraying has to be thinned 20% or more in order to get it to pass through that gun. Makes zero sense. Plus in the amount of time it took to spray that door, I coulda sprayed 6 doors with my airless!
Haha. You can spray what ypu want. This is literally a first look demo. I wasnt going for speed. You can use the larger needles. Thinning 5% at most. Finish is alot finer. Great for kitchens and spindles.
You use alot less paint with hvlp compared to airless too
Too bad the old and new paint are nearly the same color, making the video mostly useless
That’s not efficient.
Its not an efficiency test. Its just showing it out the box. See latest videos for it in action
So slow