From Jehovah’s Wittnesses to Christianity
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- I sit down with Jayse Ruiz to discuss his powerful converstion story from the Jehovah Witnesses to Christianity.
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I was raised a Jehovah’s Witness too but converted to Catholicism about a year ago!
Me too! Has your family shunned you?
@@fidelfolozanoiii4499 From the watch tower of babbel to Christ.
Happy to see another former JW convert to Catholicism (I'm going through my catechesis right now)!
@@meusisto actually they left too but didnt come to christ
@@fidelfolozanoiii4499 arent you supposed to be no part of the world?
I was born and raised a JW. It was a traumatic upbringing. It is a cult. They control who you are around, what you read, watch and associate with. They are high control because their theology is very weak. I think the internet really made it difficult for them, because the easy access to conflicting material. When I left the faith I was shunned by all friends and family (and to JWs thinking I left to live in sin, no, I left because I found that it wasn't the Truth, I faded- I was never disfellowshiped). I lost everything. It took years to get over the trauma of going from living in a high control group to being an outcast. I finally gained a relationship with Christ a few years ago, and was baptized a Catholic last summer. The Catholic faith is a blessing that I am so grateful to God for. I was at Adoration yesterday weeping, and thinking about all the Protestants who don't know what it's like to kneel in the presence of our Lord. My sincere hope is that JWs who feel trapped, find the courage to leave. I know you may fear the ostracization. But it is so beautiful on the other side! Bless you Matt for this discussion!
Welcome Home! God bless!🙏🏻
@JennBull02
The grace you received was according to the disposition of your soul to the truth.
God has not only blessed you but He has also blessed us with your presence among us.
Congratulations and thank you for telling your story.
I would love to be able to email you. I have been baptized a Christian and I am on the cusp of coming into the Catholic Church. Is it possible for me to ask you a couple of questions you overcame?
@@DV-cq4dr whoever you are, wherever you are, the Catholic Church is waiting for you to come home. You will be in great company, Therese de Lisieux, Bishop Fulton Sheen, GK Chesterton, Mother Teresa of Calcutta, Augustine and millions more. We would love to have you.
@@DV-cq4dr, have you heard of the Coming Home Network International (founded by former Protestant pastor Marcus Grodi) or Called To Communion (the live Q&A show hosted by former Protestant David Anders, PhD in Reformation theology - - there is also a Web site loosely connected to the show)? They might be of some help to you.
The links to CTC are in the sidebar of the blog Musings Of An Orthodox Catholic: anorthodoxcatholic.blogspot.com (small o orthodox, not Eastern). Their link to CHNI is buried under Links > Converts & Reverts if I remember correctly.
I'm a convert to the CC myself and have never regretted it. I'll keep you in my prayers.
My brother and I were raised Catholic and he married a disfellowshiped JW. She eventually decided to go back and he followed her. His personality has changed and he "drank the coolaid." He and I don't talk religion but his wife HATES Catholics with a passion. I continue to pray for his reversion and her conversion every day.
I was raised catholic and i dated a disfellowshipped JW fot 2 years.. he was controlling and lied alot. I was one of the lucky ones who got away. Very unhealthy relationship. Very toxic abd i reckon was influenced by his upbringing. I feel for your brother x i said a prayer for him that he and his wife find Jesus x
My ex hated catholic beliefs too and it greatly affected is early on.
Are they minimally open to dialogue?
Being a JW is mad, but it's not much more mad than being any other sort of Christian.
You are all drinking koolaid.
@@sandersson2813 You have no idea about what you are talking. You don't know it's particularly a cult with brainwashing techniques.
I was raised JW, and I am disfellowshiped as well. They use matthew 18:16 as the proof text for the disfellowshiping. I converted to the catholic faith in 2015.
Praying for you
I'm so happy for you! Viva Christo Rey!!
From darkness to Darkness!
@@rlrett1
From darkness to light, rather.
@@thepalegalilean no light within the RCC, besides the "MINISTER OF LIGHT"!
Thanks so much for having me on Matt!!! It was a pleasure and I look forward to more dialogue! God bless!
Nice to hear from you.
Thanks for sharing so honestly and kindly - very helpful. God bless you!
@@angelicdoctor8016 thank you
I really liked your testimony about Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis - you may know that the director of the Human Genome Project converted to Christianity (from agnosticism/atheism) because of that book as well: biologos.org/personal-stories/is-there-a-god-and-does-he-care-about-me-the-testimony-of-biologos-founder-francis-collins
Peace be with you!
@@angelicdoctor8016 god bless!
I'm was a jehovah witness too. In March 2020 I began to investigate history and discovered that the founders of the early church were Catholics, also because I discovered that it was a sect that did not have the doctrine of God, I decided to leave that organization in april 20th
They are the only worshippers of the God of Jesus, Who is the God of Abraham The one who glorified his servant and son Jesus? (Peter and John Acts 3:13The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified His Servant and Son Jesus,... 15But you killed the Prince of life, whom God raised from the dead. To this [fact] we are witnesses [for we have seen the risen Christ].
@@felipemartinez-qs5sh This is just a millerite sect man.
Congratulations!!! Welcome home brother in Christ!!
Wow, that must have taken a lot. And recently, too. I'll keep you in my prayers. God bless.
@@blondetapperware8289 thank you so much, God bless you
I was Bible Student with the Witnesses. I never went door-to-door. I made only one presentation on the stage. But I regularly attended.
Actually I so wanted to become a Witness because of their dedicated and lovely life style. But the problem was my studying the Bible. As I learned more and more, I saw the flaws in their theology.
Then I began to see the veracity of the Catholic Church as my Bible Study became more advanced. Finally I had to quit. They were so mistaken about Christ and other theology. I studied some more. I sought a Catholic RiCA class. And I was confirmed Catholic.
It was the best decision I ever made! 🌹❤️🌹
@larysnw418 Lying doesn't work, their Ripcord.
what flaws did you see, if you don't mind me asking?
@@JenCecily It's some time ago, but I do remember that the idea of everyone (almost) living on Earth for King Jesus' 1,000 year reign was too lightly supported.
That Jesus was a creation of God the Father denied Christ's divinity.
They deny the Holy Trinity.
They say Archangel Michael was really Jesus before he came to Earth. The Holy Spirit is not the active force of God. It is a spirit person. It is part of the Trinity.
There's more, but will that do? ✝️
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@larysnw418 Well I was raised Episcopal in NYC. You might want to rephrase that to: "The only two religions that misrepresent... " because I didn't learn anything in that church. They believe the Bible is an excellent socio-historical book of some moral value. That is how I was raised.
I learned enough Bible from the Witnesses to see that both they and the USA Episcopal Church are way off the mark.
And I said I left both of them. I don't see why you have such a combative tone with me. I wish I had been raised Lutheran or Baptist or something that believed in the Bible.
Since I knew virtually nothing about the Bible, of course I fell for whatever first group approached me. But unlike many other Bible Students, I deeply applied myself and saw they were wrong. And if you ever look at an Episcopal congregation, and then JW Congregation, the difference in dedication will stun you. I so wish they would find their way to adapt their teachings to what we know to be true. It saddens me that Episcopals are so far from the Bible and its truth.
I left my natal Church in 1994. GAFCON didn't yet exist. Some congregations put their parishes under the oversight of African Anglican Bishops! I just left and tried to find some place that would teach me the Bible. You are most fortunate to be born and raised Catholic. I was 40 when I saw the Episcopal Church was wrong. At 44 I was confirmed Catholic. I have never ever wanted to leave. This current Pope says lots of things I heard in the Episcopal Church. All I know is God will work a miracle so the next Pope will set the Church aright.
I was also raised a JW, now free and Christian!
Me too!
What makes You a Christian?
Glory to God!
1 Timothy 4:1
@@archangeljesus4369 Fun fact: you'll never find the Bible saying that Jesus is an archangel, not even in the NWT, not even with a stretch of imagination.
Watchtower orders JWs to believe this based on the fact that Jesus will descend with an archangel's voice. If he descends with the sound of trumpets, does that mean he is a trumpet? LOL
This passage simply says that an archangel’s voice will accompany the Lord’s descent from heaven, in the same manner that the bailiff’s voice (“All rise!”) accompanies the judge’s entrance into the courtroom.
Please pray for the Philippines my friends. The Protestants who only trash the one holy Catholic and Apostolic church since 1521 is being assaulted by the misguided. My maternal family's rooted in the faith and remains Catholic but my paternal cousin converted to this sect called the Iglesia ni Cristo, an anti-Catholic cult.
Please pray for their return in union with Rome!
You'll have to inform yourself about this, so that you can offer him videos or booklets about this cult. Is it possible for you?
@@meusisto Thing is we're not that close, but I'm steep into Catholicism that I may offer her novenas and purgatorial meditations; also i can offer my daily rosaries.
Novenas and those small gray pamphlets for the souls in Purgatory for her to read because they're good with warming somepne up to the doctrines
Cult indeed! They idolize Manalo
Don't confuse protestants for cults. If they're protestant, then you probs should try to bring them around, but it's not the end of the world, they're still Christian. But cults are something different
I found it interesting when Matt Frad mentioned that he really got into Catholicism when he was 17. I was baptized Catholic, and when I entered middle school (public) I started loosing my faith. That continued pretty much until the schools shut down because of covid (I had just turned 16). 2020 was the year that I started coming back to Catholicism, and in October I quit my first job and started working at my local Chick-fil-A. Since I don't have to work on Sundays anymore, I've been able to start going to my favorite church again, which has really helped my faith. Also, one of my coworkers used to be Catholic, and she's mentioned having a discussion about Catholicism/protestantism, so I've been reading more Catholic material so I will be better prepared to talk about my faith. My 17th birthday is in about a month, so I thought it was cool that Matt started getting more into the faith around the same age as me. I'm excited to actually be prepared to defend the Catholic faith and really understand what I believe.
Grats! Will be praying for you, I am so very grateful for the Catholic faith 💘
Good for you!!! Remember that all things happen for the good of those who love God!
Peace be with you and yours always
This is sort of what happened to me! I've been a devout Catholic my whole life, but quarantine got me into researching and getting even closer to God and the church, i still have a lot to work out but I'm so happy!
Praying for you!
That’s awesome man. I was born and baptized Catholic as a baby and also in middle school (private catholic school. Ironic I know.) I started to lose my faith and it got worse and worse in high school. I was practically agnostic by the time I was in college and around 20-21 year old I started to come back to the faith. It’s a beautiful feeling.
I'm deeply moved Sophia by yr story.... you are so bright.... thank you for sharing yr Catholic Faith... wonderful!
Oh wow! I encountered Jesus through the gospel of John too! In exactly the same way! I decided to read without judgement! Just reading! A miracle happened! My heart believed! Praise God!
in Poland JW are very active. I have spoken to them several times. And I must admit that thanks to these discussions I strengthened my Catholic faith. The Holy Spirit is at work in all circumstances. 😁😁😁
... I can only imagine what would have happened if they showed up at my grandma’s door. She didn’t even like the increasing prevalence of smart phones in Poland, the JWs would have had to flee at least eastern Poland if not the whole country.
Oh Poland, a thousand years of our saints cries for you.
@@ko9563
Pandemia bardzo ograniczyła ich działalność 😄
Catholicism is the worlds most profitable corporation 😂
Thank you for sharing your conversion through the Gospel of John. What a special, powerful moment you had, what a Blessing!
Thank you!! God is good
I was a JW for 12 years. I loved the ministry! I began to see problems with their doctrine, but couldn't get free, kept going back. Then one day I chanced accross Mother Angelica praying the Rosary on EWTN. I thought I should try it too. Upon praying the Rosary, the Catholic Church downloaded into my soul. It was some sort of infusion of knowledge. The conversion ocurred five years ago. I never thought about the Witnesses again, so praying the Rosary was also some sort of exorcism. They are a derivative of Freemasonry.
Me too, infact I encountered miracles in ministry, gave everything I had for it, but it wasn't enough bc I didn't have a relationship with Jesus, not a real one anyways and discovering that the Holy Spirit isn't just an active forced saved me in so so many ways!! Getting baptized this Easter Vigil!!
Hey Matt, you have become a regularly watched channel in our household. My wife and I noticed that playing your channel will get our 4 month olds attention and he will eventually fall asleep no matter how hard he is fighting it. Many thanks! 😅😆
I am a Ex JW..After being very active there. But it almost took my live. And since year now i am on my way to become Catholic. It is great to see that the Church is from the beginning, and not from 325 what the witnesses teach. And what te early chruch fathers learn from the beginning from Christianity is still the same in the Catholic Chruch.
How has it been after one year?
If JW almost took your life, that's on you and the people you surrounded yourself with. You can't blame all your troubles on a religion. So clearly you haven't learnt anything about Christ.
Matt is so very good at respectfully engaging people. God bless Matt and Jayse.
I was raised a JW, now Pentecostal. But if I were still a JW I wouldn’t be allowed to watch this! 😅
Thank you! Asking prayers for my sister-in-law who is JW and caused a lot of my problems in the family. My brother died on Sept. 29 (not a JW) but lost his faith. I had so many of my community pray that he would be graced with the Sacrament of the Sick before dying. He would get upset with me when I talked about God. I have to tell you we had a miracle. The day before he died he not only got the anointing but received the Apostolic Pardon which he accepted. Had a beautiful, full Catholic wake and funeral. Unfortunately a couple of days after the funeral I thanked my sister-in-law for everything but she blasted me instead telling me she has not changed her mind. I forgive her but very concerned for her soul. It was her late mother and sister-in-law that talked her into it. 😪😪😪🙏🏻
Well from her perspective you did a satanic ritual over him. I understand why that would be upsetting.
Thank you, Matt, for this! What a brave Interview he gave. As a Roman Catholic, I had a very close high school friend who was a Witness. I always felt horribly sorry for her, it always seems like she was miserable inside but covering it with a veneer of quiet happiness. I believe she now has left JW, but I’ve never been brave enough to ask. Maybe I will now…
That's something I noticed about the Witnesses, they're very judgmental and not happy people. Where is the joy of the Lord? We Christians are usually happier and less judgmental, especially us Catholics. What is it with a lot of evangelical Christians hating on us Catholics?
There was one particular family, when i was in high school, that everyone knew were JWs, because as we all celebrated Christmas or any birthday related stuff, they sat out. I remember being in a specific class where the teacher really wanted to do stuff for Christmas and whispering to someone "what's wrong with her?" Because she was just sitting off away from everyone and looking so very sad. She couldn't even accept the small gifts the teacher had given us. She couldn't eat any snacks. But honestly at that moment i realized that she was this way every day, but i hadn't noticed that until seeing it made obvious by this Christmas party. She looked on everyone with such suspicion and wariness. She barely spoke to anyone. She always looked sad and never smiled. I was shocked when i found out because there aren't many JWs in our area. But the few we have are very active. Now i have always been very polite to them except once. My husband and i lost one of our children at one month old. We visited his grave about a week after his funeral and there on top of it was JW literature, and i was furious. That cult knows no boundaries. Believe me i made it clear to them to keep that trash off my son's grave.
Please ask her because it's very encouraging to me as a former Jehovah's witness myself to see some of the witnesses waking up and leaving. Unfortunately many of them because of the spiritual abuse they suffered end up becoming atheists and agnostics.😢
Please, we are "Catholic"..,...Roman was added as a derogatory and anti-catholic term at the time!!!
"Witness for Jesus" is a good Christian channel responding to Jehovah's witnesses and she currently goes through the midweek meetings and reviews and responds to those.
Wow! Matt, I love how nice & open you’re always are to your guest. This was very interesting I learned a lot about the Witnesses! It’s sad how Jayce, was shunned by family & friends. I can only imagine how hurtful that must feel.😔 God Bless him.💜
Mormons will actually talk to you if you compare your beliefs with theirs.
JWs will run for the hills.
We discussed, and got a better look at the JW tonight at church. A lot to digest, but it's important to learn what they believe if you're ever going to be an effective witness for Christ.
This guy is living the Beatitudes. God Bless you and your wife and child!! Praying for you and everyone in this community ❤️
I'm Catholic from.Anglicanism, searched many Protestant Churches. Recently I met A lovely Jehovas Witness Couple. I don't know how to talk to them and hope this man will be a help.
I would suggest providing to them from scripture the Trinity
Me and lots of my family almost became JW’s but thanks be to God he answered my prayers when I asked him to show me the Truth if it’s with the JW’s or other Protestant church one thing I knew was not the Catholic Church but after that prayer I was working and searching for a AM sports radio station and it landed on Catholic Answers radio program at around 3:00 pm and I got so many questions answered listening to the ex Protestant pastor who converted to Catholicism. After months of tuning in and going on Catholic Answers website me and all but one aunt came back to the Catholic Church.
What had happened if a Hindu would have come on that morning on the Radio? See I left the catholic Church after 53 years, I prayed sincerely too! So God told You to join the Catholic Church and me to leave the Catholic Church! Does that make any sense! One of us has to be wrong! See, Your question to God was, is it JW or the Protestant Church? When You ask God for something, who do you think jumps in, to answer your question before God does? You are right, Satan does! How do we discern who is talking, not easy without knowledge of the word of God! In My opinion, and i base it on scripture, Satan wanted to have You for one of his strongholds (JW), when he saw, that You were asking God in prayer, He jumped in and gave You his next option (RCC), Satan has many options (many protestant churches belong to him too)! If i would be You, I would go on my knees and ask God again, not giving God choices as You did in your first prayer, but ask him for the full truth and your desire to learn Holy scripture, then he can answer your prayer, because now You are not limiting God!
I write this in Love, God bless You!
@@rlrett1 I can’t write all of the details on here but I didn’t just hear the radio and then converted no it took a long time because it caused me to do a lot of research. I started to read the earliest Christian writings and also read books of ex Protestant pastors that have way more studying then me plus lots of prayer and then the number one ☝🏼 obstacle was my pride because i didn’t want the Catholic Church to be the true church
@@chator.4921 The early church fathers already left the Gospel of Grace taught by Paul. They already made the cross to no effect by their errounious wtitings! God bless You
@@rlrett1 exactly what I thought too. I also thought my interpretation of the Bible was more correct then those who learned it from the apostles. It’s going to be your pride the devil will use on you brother. God bless you and your study
@@chator.4921 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
Who came right after Paul? Church Fathers!!!
Paul commands us in 2 Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
He doesn't say let others study for you, he says thyself, God bless You!
really enjoyed this discussion. thanks Matt and Jayse!
I love how respectful you guys are. It's very refreshing! It reflects well on Jesus! Ahhhh ( sigh of relief!)
That mere man and angel Jesus who prayed on many occasions and cried out for God's protection is not God
I also experience disfellowship when I left the Evangelical Protestant group (a.k.a. Born Again "Christianity") in college. We are friends in Facebook but they never interact with me. We were all Catholics but were invited to join a so-called "non-denominational" group where we were treated like family. When I left, they also stop communicatiing with me.
Another great show! Thank you so much, Mr Fradd!
I'm looking forward to this discussion! Keep up the good work! My wife and I love your channel and pray for you and your family often.
Matt, I think you can tell by the comments that this is a very important topic. I think it would be really great to have him in again and go more in depth to expose their doctrine and practices.
Yep, Thank you for saying this Matt Fradd and Jayse Ruiz. It IS pretty traumatic and difficult to be pulled out of a deep-running set of beliefs. This process rips you apart and leaves a big giant gaping hole, losing everything, to gain everything, in a sense. Thank GOD that Christ fills this hole abundantly and in excess with His Divine Mercy
This conversation has been very informative and just good I have two friends who are witnesses and wanting again to start a Bible study again after there last attempt 5 years ago. They very nice people
@larysnw418 You're not an ex Catholic.
Thanks for all your videos! Have been binge-watching them! Would love to see more videos engaging with people of other religions e.g. the Bahai, Buddhists etc.
I was born and raised JW. Older than this fellow. Born 1960 converted to Catholic in 1995, with stops in between. It is interesting that even among former JWs the experience differs according to when you had the experience with them Their founder, Charles Taze Russell, would be disfellowshiped at any time from probably the 1940s on be cause what he taught was so different from what the ever evolving teachings of the JWs have become They weren't called Jehovah's Witnesses then. They were known as International Bible Students Association (IBSA). Nothing he originally taught is like what JWs teach now.
Thank you so much for this episode. Excellent interview. Somewhat triggering for me, but it is a excellent interview.
This was a really great episode. I can't say I am particularly interested in the JW so I was surprised by how much I enjoyed it.
I also left the Jehovah's Witnesses 2 years ago and converted as a Christian. I finally went to a Baptist church 3 months ago and still trying to figure out where I belong.
So you were not a Christian prior to leaving the JW's?
With that being said and while it is common for people to make such claims, I have yet to identify what it is they conclude qualifies the label of a Christian from a Bible standpoint, or how that differs claiming to be a Christian after the fact.
@@SmalltimR Being a Christian essentially means being a part of the body of Christ. JWs absolutely aren't a part of the body of Christ, scriptural and historically.
I used to be a jehovahs witness.i disassociated over two years ago on the phone. Over the last few months I've been doing the catechism with father mike schmidt. I'm hoping to become an Eastern Catholic in the future. 🕯️✝️☦️
God bless you! Welcome home! 🤗
✝️🛐💟🙏🏻🕊️🌹❤️😊
I'm confused. How do you disassociate over the phone?
@@HalkerVeil "Disassociate" is a word used by the JW's to mean "quit" or "resign" formally. It is the term for a Witness saying he or she is no longer part of that faith. The poster did a very brave thing. Now all Witnesses she knew must shun her (have as little to do with him or her as possible).
@@HalkerVeil now that I think about it more I am pretty surprised they let me disassociate over the phone. I wonder who gave them the green light to be able to let me be disassociated over the phone unless they were just being lazy. Because surely the circuit overseer wouldn't have allowed them to do that. I don't think so anyway. Doesn't the elders handbook say that I'm supposed to sign a piece of paper in order to be dissacotiated.
@@robbchristopher158 Hi! I only know a few things about JWs as I was a Bible Student with them. From what you said, it sounds like they didn't want to draw up anything final yet. They might have thought if they give you time, you'd return. I don't know if they have "leave of absence." Maybe they put you down as sick. Or, there is another term I remember, "inactive." It was explained to me that inactives just stop going for a while, but they are in good standing and can return whenever they want. Sometimes there is a family problem, they said. Other times someone is just burned out.
It could be "inactive," and they will visit you when they think an unknown difficulty of yours has passed.
This is just a guess. So sorry if I am wrong.
I should say that I really liked a lot about their dedicated lifestyle. But as I studied the Bible, I saw a lot they were teaching me was untrue. I knew I could not teach anyone things I believed were false. So I parted ways. I studied on my own for a while, looking up Catholic theology. When I felt certain enough, I registered for the class, and and was confirmed a year later. It was the best decision I made in my life! I was so happy. Then, of course, this Brogolio mess took me out of my comfort. But, I am trusting God. Things are still in motion, so I will await God's action.
May you have a blessed New Year. May you have lots of joy!!
Great interview! As the Catholic Church os expanding in South America and Africa, it would be neat if you could interview someone from those areas to get their story. Keep up the great work!
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Thanks Matt for sharing.. This saddens me how this gentleman’s family has done him..
Thank you for this! 🙏🏽❤️
Thanks Be To JESUS N Mother Mary for the many who came home to catholicism. Alleluia! Heaven rejoices for all these souls saved!!!
Ted dencher's book 'why I left the jehovahs witnesses' is an excellent read and extremely resource to understand the false doctrines of the cult and how to effectively reach them through the good news of the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Jehovah's Witnesses usually despise Catholics but ironically one of my mom's best friends is a JW. We just have to remember not to wish her a Merry Christmas and not invite her to birthday parties.
Don’t forget to invite her to know the really Jesus!! They believe Jesus is God’s first creation, lacking an eternal divine state, and that He is the archangel Michael.
How can JWs despise Catholics when most of us don't even know what you all believe. I never knew anything about Catholicism until high school so how could I hate you and I don't even know you? Stop spreading lies. But God sees everything, for real, and He reads everybody's heart.
@@fruit-filledolivetree5056 False. We are taught that Jesus is divine but he is not God Himself. The Bible suggests more that Jesus is the Son of God, not God Himself. Only one scripture suggests Jesus is God and that's the only one y'all focus on.
@@eve3363 witnesses do NOT believe Jesus is divine.
@@eve3363There is a lot more than one verse. And even if there wasn’t, nothing can top Thomas saying My Lord and My God and Jesus does NOT correct him, which for a Jew would have been an abomination.
He’s an Atheist, but youtuber Telltale is an ex-JW he talks a lot about Jehova’s Witnesses and how it is like a cult
Thank you for this! I was raised JW. You can judge a religion as a cult by how it treats the members who disagree and/or leave.
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
Loved hearing your experiences that were similar to mine, especially the effect of your sister becoming Christian on you. I often wonder how my siblings may be effected by my conversion down the line. Good reminder not to straw man the beliefs.
Raised a Witness.... Shunned for leaving to become an Evangelical Christian, obtained a graduate degree from Seminary, 14 years ago. Still no contact...
In my old neighborhood, the JWs ALWAYS knocked on our door. I think it was the Mary statue on the front porch...
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Y'all love statues, boy. Y'all want to be Jewish so bad.
Being a former JW myself, I have listened at least 100 interviews with ex-JWs.
This interview with Jayse Ruiz is among the very best.
My favorite part is the quotation from
John 20:28, the words of the Doubting Thomas to the Risen Jesus:
Ὁ κύριός μου καὶ ὁ θεός μου. “My Lord and my God!”
Thomas was a Jew as was Jesus. All Jews are required to say the Shema “hear .O Israel, the Lord thy God is one Lord” at least once every day. It is hardly likely Thomas would have called Jesus his God and Jesus would have accepted this from Thomas. Besides two verses down at verse 31 it says But these are written that you might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and by believing you might have through his name.
There’s more people who leave Catholicism than any other church sane w Protestants
The "Legion of Mary" is a Catholic organization that has been doing door to door for a hundred years! I'm a member and was amazed at how many people are willing to talk. Catholics can take a real lesson from the JW's for their perseverance.
That's because JWs are threatened with death at Armageddon if they don't go door to door.
@@alans.wendelschafer6588 that's pure evil and wrong on so many level.
Thank you. JW is the only denomination that ACTIVELY witnesses about Jesus and Jehovah. Every other denomination tells the person to come to them. JW also has free Bible study.
@@eve3363Not when your Bible has deliberate translation errors to reinforce your teachings. Changing God’s Word to suit their own purposes is an abomination.
@@frisco61 Sure
JW were rudely pushy when I was growing up. My mom figured out they'd skip our house if we put something clearly catholic-christian on our door or on the porch
@larysnw418 Jws are rudely pushy.
Matt, you are far more generous to the JW's than I am. They have roped in a dear friend of mine and while she hasn't pulled completely away from the people of the world yet I fear it will only be a matter of time. I've seen the way they have run their game on her. At first the commitment is minimum but over time they demand more and more until you give yourself entirely to the church. I say the church, not God or Christ because that is the center of who they are, their all consuming Kingdom Hall.
On the question of whether or not thy are a cult, the whole practice of shunning places them in that camp. Their goal is to isolate and tear down any remnant of individuality a person may possess. It's why they won't even allow you acknowledge your birthday or the birthday of anyone else, including your kids. If I left Catholicism and joined a Protestant church nobody would disown me. They would still see me as a child of God and a follower of Christ because for Catholics and mainstream Protestants, Christ is at the center of our beliefs, not the church. JW's may say it ain't so, but they elevate their church above all else.
I no longer discuss matters of faith with my friend because she has become convinced that everything she was taught prior to falling in with the JW's is a lie. I did notice that the deeper she got into the cult her focus shifted away from the teachings of the New Testament. Their belief system seems to be more of a curious blend of Islam and Judaism. Like I say, she has not totally shut out the rest of us but I can see a time where she will. In the past I would point out inconsistencies between what JW's teach and what the Gospels say but she would dismiss them out of hand and still insist that JW is a branch of Christianity even though she acknowledges that they deny the Trinity and the Divinity of Christ. That's kind of like me saying I'm a Muslim even though I don't believe the prophet received his revelations from God.
I will continue to pray for my friend and all people who have been deceived by their false teachings but I have no time for the JW cult. I'll call it that because that's what it is. Any movement where the church comes first and parents disown their children for even questioning some self-appointed group of elders is a cult in my mind. I'll just leave it at that. I'm glad this young man escaped. I hope many more follow his lead.
About you saying «JW's may say it ain't so, but they elevate their church above all else.» What could Jesus have ment when he said that there are two roads, and only one of them is leading to eternal life? Do you think Jesus was wrong?
Catholicism & Protestant faiths are the worlds biggest cults. Your beliefs come from European traditions & mistranslations. Compare it to the early Christians & it’s a complete different thing.
When I was 19 JWs came to my door. They started a Bible study from The Truth book. I could not prove there teaching was wrong. I joined for 20 yrs. when I was able to show their teaching was not true. They kicked me out as an Apostate.
May God bless you always!
Great interview! Thanks.
I myself haven’t heard it. Why? Well, when people don’t even seem to dig as deep to be able to spell correct who they are talking about, I get the feeling that they don’t bother to dig very deep, nor being accurate. But I have read some of the comments here, and has commented some.
Jehovah witnesses always rock up at our doorstep, despite the beautiful grotto of Our Lady that is in our front yard. They are not open to listen, they just come to preach their religion and they get annoyed when you debate their beliefs. I remember one time when I said ‘God bless you’ to one of them, she got so mad at me. She said”Oh! I’m already blessed. No use talking to you.”
We always try to be polite to them. What puts me off is when they say “We were Catholics once” and most of them say that.😕
I've been waiting for more catholic attention on this subject. There is not enough catholic literature or resources combatting the tactics of jehovahs witnesses.
I agree, I would like to see more apologetics against Jehovah Witnesses. I Started reading Catholic answers small book 20 answers to Jehovah Witnesses yesterday because of this video. Trent Horn did a good job. It seems difficult to reach them cause they twist the scriptures so well. It’s like when Jesus was tempted in the desert by the devil, the devil was twisting the scripture to try and trick Jesus, I think he’s doing that too through Jehovah Witnesses.
@@jonhowerton2537 Check out the channel Catholic Truth, he has done a few apologetics videos on JWs and Mormons
@@jonhowerton2537 100% true. Not that they do it maliciously, but their faith has utterly changed the scriptures so much that it’s a different Bible.
@@philotheake will do
@@philotheake I will check it out thanks 🙏
Thank you for such a respectful discussion. I didn't get the name of the interviewer but he disclosed he came from Brisbane. My compliments from Melbourne Australia
Matt Fradd! 😁
Thank you for the interview. Welcome back home brother 🙏🏻📿 on the other hand I think Jehová witness organization is the same as Santology they disconnected you if started questioning or you dig into the truth of their organization..
Hi Matt
If at all possible I would like to get in touch with Jayse. My family including my youngest son are JW's. I was born and baptized Catholic and have received my sacrament s and am and will be Catholic forever. Unfortunately my son and Sister are not talking to me because I refuse to believe that the Catholic Church is false religion. Anyway again how can I get you my contact information to pass along to Jayse?
- Cindy
Now You have two false religions in your household! Both are blind, both claiming to see!
Hi Matt, that's a witty way to spell "witnesses" :-)
Great interview with a former member of the Borg, if you want more info about this group check out the Lloyd Evans or Kim and Mike's channels for in-depth analysis. I am interested in the beliefs of all religions, even though I no longer have a set belief in a deity. We were told not to read anything but what they printed, that is a sign it's a cult - information control! Thanks and I hope to learn a lot about the Catholic faith too.
My most interesting door to door experience was a someone I went to school with came to the door with a blanket and then when they saw me he dropped the blanket. The was my first time I starting thinking if being a JW was for me. So thankful I left when I was 16.
47:30 he’s referring to “Reymundis Martini” a Catholic monk.
Ask about what they teach about the Lord’s Supper.
What do they teach about the lords supper?
Yes, what do they teach?
Interesting information, thanks.
thank you Jayse and God Bless. will keep this verse in mind. If i got to a lodge and hold this up as they drive away would that do anything positive? john 20:28
Wow!! Really looking forward to this!
Can You please ask Jayse about ex JW CZcamsrs like Mike and Kim and others like marc and Cora, son of thunder and others. how do I respond to their way of presenting etc, particularly Mike and Kim.
Thank you for this discussion. I do hope you will have more apologetic discussions on JWs. Would Jason Evert come on and discuss his early work? I appreciate all the work you do.
Great conversion story! Welcome home to the Catholic Church.
Can't wait! JW seem to be increasingly bigger in numbers and tend to be (in my experience) particularly agressive on their efforts to convert people, we've lost a lot of (misinformed) catholics to them 😢
They are increasingly smaller! If you look up the internet, there are lots of young people from them saying they only pretend to be part of the cult, but don't believe anything from there anymore and don't preach it, because the family would shun them if they disclosed not to be JWs anymore. Also, if you look up here on YT about "apostates", how they call the former JWs, going to meetings to tell truths, you'll see the Kingdom Halls are empty! I talk from experience, former JW here.
@@meusisto Yep, thankfully (speaking as a former JW here too) their numbers actually dropped last year for the first time in over 20 years!
@@jordangeorge7582 wow do you mean even officially the numbers dropped? This is impressive, since they sum up newcomers, but can't count inactive members, only shunned ones, that's why their numbers seem to be growing when they are getting smaller usually.
I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses who has recently read the apostolic fathers. Can't wait for this one.
Congratulations My brother!! I was a jehovah witness until last year. Now i'm studing the catholic doctrine, i'm believe that the catholic church is the truly Jesus's church
Hey Yarden! I’m glad you’re researching! If you’d like to talk don’t be afraid to message me on my channel
Who is the God of Abraham The one who glorified his servant and son Jesus? (Peter and John Acts 3:13The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified His Servant and Son Jesus,... 15But you killed the Prince of life, whom God raised from the dead. To this [fact] we are witnesses [for we have seen the risen Christ].
@@felipemartinez-qs5sh Yes, we are witnesses of Christ. Watchtower people are witnesses of "Jehovah", a judaization.
John 15:21
But they will do all these things against you on account of my name, (because they do not know the One who sent me.)
What a brave man! 🙌
Awesome episode! People need to know where they're getting into.
The ONE TRUE religion, maybe.
@@jimjuri6490 jw can't tell bible students all the rules and doctrine before they're brainwashed enough. If you tell a person they would be disfellowshipped (after shameful commission) because they don't want to be part of them anymore, they would be km away from jw.
I used to love JWs knocking on my door. I'd make us a cup of tea and sit down chatting about why Im a Catholic while they will explain why they believed JWs to be the truth. They seem to have given up on me now as they haven't knocked on my door in years and walk past. They gave up on me. Seeing a crucifix and icon of the Holy Family in my sitting room probably made them lose interest in me.
It is likely that the JW's respect your current choice and position, and that they are on the lookout for those seeking to worship in truth as Jesus did.
That is to say, by following in Jesus' own footsteps by worshiping, teaching and preaching of the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ, as Jesus did on earth.
Which seems odd to me personally, as so many people today seem oblivious to the fact that they are worshiping teaching and preaching of a god that is completely unlike the GOD of Jesus Christ. Here again, outlining that it is Jesus Christ that we must follow rather than churches and men.
@@SmalltimR JWs do not have the truth lol. You guys split the salvation into two groups. Demonic and absolutely unbiblical
@larysnw418 I've seen the same JWs walk j past my house on a number of occasions !
@@Thedisciplemike Based on what?
@@vahppus9958 based on their unbiblical and heretical beliefs
Very interested in this one.
Fantastic episode, Matt keep cracking those jokes of yours 😅😂😂
I too had a question about the scripture about not having anything to do with those who backslide so to speak.
Thank you for your interpretation
May want to fix the typo
Wow, not sure how that happened. Thanks! Fixed.
@@PintsWithAquinas Also, Jehovah's.
@@PintsWithAquinas What is with the double T?
Hi Matt, I don't know what the typo was 2 weeks ago, but as of now "witnesses" is spelled pretty wittily :-)
@@PintsWithAquinas I like all your interviews my brother…..only this….please you don’t interrupt you guess when they are talking…otherwise you will loose 100s subscribers. Thank you
I gotta wait 12 days 😔
Using the word “cult” makes other religions turn off immediately as I have learned. I like the term “ high demand religion” or something similar.
We should tell them the truth with respect.
How many people bought the JW literature? Where were they in their faith walk? Is it possible that Jesus meets people where they are? And the more they seek to know Jesus better and the more they follow, the closer they get to the Truth?
Stay with the simplicity of the FINISHED work of the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation.
You always win staying with the Lord Jesus Christ and HIS FINISHED work that God absolutely approved of for us
So the term I use is "destructive cult." For example: Jonestown would be a destructive cult. Destructive cults can occur in any religion, and I found a good book that describes a destructive cult well (Cults, Sects, and the New Age).
In case you should be correct, that should be able to be noticed among the first Christians, shouldn’t it? If so, where in the Bible - or among historians - is it mentioned that the first Christians was a destructive cult that killed themselves? - Nowhere you will find it. Ergo, the true Christians are not among those you mention.
They came to my door. An older man and a young lady - mabe 22 years old. I looked directly at her and said, "Young Lady, for your own good, You need to turn around and run like hell from this. " They left very quickly...I didn't even get a watchtower which I always read for Apologetic Purposes!
I actually got into a debate with a witness here on CZcams. I had no idea who I was speaking to or what they believed, but when they started denying the trinity and that Jesus is God, I figured it out.
It's hard to have debate with someone whom I have so little common with as far a beliefs. It's nice to learn a little more about them.
I quoted scriptures about Jesus's claims to be God, but they got very defensive and kinda rude pretty quickly, so I just left it alone.
Very interesting discussion, though
No, there’s no point in getting rude - and I have never met any rude Jehovah’s witnesses. I´m a Jehovah’s witness myself, and I hope you don’t define the following as rude. As with any other topic, the burden of proof is in the person that claims something. Since many claim the doctrine of trinity is what the bible teach, the burden of proof is on those who says so. Does this seem fair and logic to you?
If you want to argue that the trinity is a biblical topic, take a look at what it is about. You will find it in the so called «Athanasian Creed». If you want to prove «the Athanasian Creed» , aka «doctrine of trinity», try to do this: Read sentence by sentence in the Athanasian Creed, and show verse by verse in the Bible how the wordings harmonize.
My experience is that no-one has ever done it. Not ever. And therefore I can not conclude the idea to be biblical. And the reason is quite logic, I think, because it is the Bible that contains what is to be concluded as biblical stuff.
If you yourself feel like believe in the trinity, it’s up to you of course. But what kind of trinitarian belief? You might know that in ancient Babylon, in Egypt and India they also had trinities? If you dig a bit deeper in the topic, see if you can spot any difference between the Church trinity and how trinity is according Chinese Buddhism:“The Three are all included in one substantial essence. The three are the same as one; not one, and yet not different; without parts or composition. When regarded as one, the three persons are spoken of as the Perfect One (Tathagata). There is no real difference [between the three persons of the trinity]; they are manifestations, different aspects of the same unchanging substance.” -Origin and Evolution of Religion, p. 348.
You say, «It's hard to have debate with someone whom I have so little common with as far a beliefs. It's nice to learn a little more about them.» Yes, it’s interesting to learn what other people think, and why they think as they do. And if understanding you correct, we both have the Bible in common :)
- And when speaking about common ground. Genesis 2:15-17 says that if Adam was to eat from a specific tree that God forbid him to eat from, if he did anyway, he would die. Question: What would happen if he didn’t eat from that tree? Ever thought about that?
@larysnw418 "Obviously, JW's don't believe in the trinity because it's not scriptural."
Because it is scriptural.
@@vahppus9958 "Origin and Evolution of Religion, p. 348."
Why are you quote mining?
"You might know that in ancient Babylon, in Egypt and India they also had trinities?"
Do you know what trinity teaches?
Quote: "When quoting, the meaning of the original quote should be apparent, even when using ellipses (…). A classic source of misquotes is the Watchtower publication Should You Believe in the Trinity? (ti), using ellipses to hide words like "but", "however", "therefore" to present a completely different point from that being made by the source. Furthermore, provision of only partial references to the source of quotes make it difficult and time consuming to locate the original quote. Examples of misquotes follow."
@larysnw418 The trinity is scriptural. The issue is is that you guys use a reversed engineered bible to mask the clear doctrines of the Trinity. To not believe in the Trinity is to admit that you do not read the scriptures in context. czcams.com/video/tm-VRSLnSz8/video.html
Can anybody clarify for me what JWs believe about the resurrection after death vs what Catholicism says about what the resurrection will look like and after.
I understand the desire to not call them a cult but they sure check a lot of boxes…
Not allowed to read stuff not approved by the “leadership,” knowing that you’ll lose everything you know and love if you decide to leave the ‘faith,’… those two things alone are hallmarks of a cult.
Millerites before 1844 preached the end of the world and it was huge. Many religions grew out of the Millerite movement including Seventh day Adventists. Charles Taze Russell was a wealthy business owner that spent his own money to promote the International Bible student organization (a legal name of Jehovah's Witnesses). Good Video!
At 47.28 he wasn’t sure who it was, it was a Catholic monk by the name of Raymundus Martini. In many ways the JWs took many beliefs/doctrines from the Catholics.
When studying the word, one must remember to Study the times……study to show thyself approved.
My best friend in highschool was a Jehovah’s Witness. We had to stick together because the school was so corrupt.
My mom always says that anyone who doesn't believe that Jesus is the son is God isn't a Christian not to mention that they don't celebrate Christmas or birthdays.
OMG. We DO believe that. LoL. People don't like us because the argument is that Jesus is God Himself. You all don't even know what you're arguing!
@@eve3363 actually they believe Jesus is an angel. Just saying.