Why Do Wizards Study Astronomy? | Harry Potter Explained
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- Today J dives into the Wizarding World of Harry Potter to try and explain why wizards need to study space.
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The real question here: what happens if you put a werewolf on the moon?
They become werewolves at full moon, so maybe they would always be wolves or maybe it just would follow the cycle on the earth
Depends on if they're on the dark or bright side of the moon
He suffocated.
Thank you! I've been wondering that for AGES! Also how would werewolves react to knowing that astronauts have bright back pieces of the moon and other celestial bodies? Would a werewolf have any reaction to a meteorite? What specifically about the moon powers their transformation? Because I once heard a theory that the moon used to be part of Earth back when it was still forming, if that was the case would there be some place on Earth with similar properties or the potential to have similar properties to the moon that would be seen by werewolf culture as a mythical sacred ground? (I think Wolfbloods had season 3 where they were looking for a mythical wolfblood land so maybe that's where I got the idea from.) Also, also, actually, actually, if Werewolf+Wifwolf= really smart but otherwise regular wolf then could the Wolfblood universe connect to the Potterverse in the idea that Wolfbloods descended and evolved from Lycan unions?
I just want more werewolf lore idk why maybe I see it as an allegory to mensuration in which case would female lycans have even more power than the males for their double whammy lunar cycles?
See it's questions like these that drive people to write fan fiction...
@@ellaellingsen2818 but they need to see the moon to transform, and they won't be able to look at it, if they are on it.
Potion ingredients are dependent on moon phases and what not. That means that at least some magic work is influenced by the moon and other heavenly bodies and I always assumed that was the reason.
In addition to that, some parts on herbology also lean on astrology (different moon phases and whatnot for gathering plants) and I would think it's important to know when the next full moon is, in case your classmate has a "furry little problem" and is disappearing every month
Well, concerning the furry litlle problem, a full class of third-years who study Astronomy each week and had to do an essay about werewolves cannot make the connection between werewolves and "Professor sick all the full moon"... I think the intelligence of the average Hogwart's student is very low ^^'
+Krankar Volund I doubt the students paid attention to when, exactly, Professor Lupin got sick, and I don't think most students' first thought would be that their professor was a werewolf, especially given the stigma around being a werewolf (they probably would've thought that Dumbledore wouldn't have hired a werewolf, given that they were considered 'dark creatures' and dangerous). But at the same time, I doubt that *only* Hermione figured it out.
Krankar Volund and who said anything about professors? 20 or so years before the events in Prisoner, James and Sirius figured out what their friend Remus was doing every month.
Krankar Volund Also, it's implied that Hermione is the only student who bothered to do the essay, so that might be part of the reason.
There is mention in The Chamber of Secrets that the polyjuice potion needs ingredients that are picked during certain moon phases (I think the fluxweed?), and so I think we can assume that the other planets probably have similar affects on a lot of different ingredients. Also, moon and planet positions where a big thing in magic throughout history, and a lot of magic centered religions today, like wicca, still put a lot of focus on it. You want to try and do certain spells and rituals at certain moon phases and planet positions and the closer you get to the optimal time, the more powerful your magic/spell/ritual will be. So it actually makes a lot of sense to me that this would be a big deal in Hogwarts, and being able to find exact positions of planets and stars might be really important to a witch or wizard.
endurancegal93 Also, it’s possible that they study it with even more depth, such as a celestial body’s alignment or phase or position in relation to one another and not just the earth. 🌏 🔮
The knotgrass also has to be picked at the full moon if memory serves.
Exactly what I was thinking as well. I think this is really on point. There’s a lot of depth to the subject but I think it’s too complex to really get brought up that often and thus gets overlooked.
I think that the creation of unique, rate and powerful items must also involve spells, and rituals to be done at specific times to imbide more power in them. Like the hallows, Moody's eye, the veil etc. Thats why they're unique and rare.
Becoming Animagi also requires knowing the moon phases too
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Slughorn was a competent potions teacher, though.
A million times better than snape
For people who fly around on brooms (and other flying animals) a way of navigating is important you can't use roadsigns because your too high up, and wizards don't use phones (reasons)
Hence a way of navigating would be incredibly useful so 5 years learning to read a giant map
You have an excellent point but couldn't they just charm their brooms? Or get an enchanted compass or map that's somehow only readable when they will it and expands as they go farther?
I would say navigation would be primary reason for the class. For one if you where going to make a map like that you would need to be able to pin point your starting point for the map to work properly. Also in this world of "GPS navigation" It may seem like naturally they would have some to that effect as well. But doesn't mean that some more traditionalists wouldn't want the basics of life like how get from point A to point B and then C to be lost on future generations. Probably more or less just passing on the knowledge. Then an everyday useful knowledge.
Also setting up a map or compass like that would definitely be very advanced magic. Which they average witch or wizard may not be capable of. But learning the stars is much more simple.
That would be kind of like why the history class is also a core class. It would be hard to look at the history class and say it has an immediate practical use. Plus it has little to do with magic. And yet learning your history is important for many reasons. Some of which are giving yourself inspiration for your own life, learning how conflicts could potentially occur and/or be resolved etc.
True but they also learn stuff like what are Jupiter's moons, which one is covered in what material, why do they learn that?
My question is... if you’ve taken Astronomy in the Muggle world... do credits transfer?!
Jonathan Ewing What they do in Harry Potter is more astrology than astronomy. A few astrophysics classes dont really help you discover how planetary movements affect magic mumbo jumbo
Jonathan Ewing lol
What ten year-olds are taking Astronomy?
Just wait until those wizards learn to make... ROCKETSHIPS
S-wo, we had a unit on astronomy in 4th grade, so.....
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Firenze the centaur is a more open minded and, might I say, cultured individual then his fellow xenophobic centaurs.
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If you're curious, Firenze in english is Florence
It is also home to a banking family prominent in the Renaissance with ties to a clandestine and ancient brotherhood.
I didn't notice in the comments if anyone mentioned this...but in the Harry Potter wizarding world there seemed to be some sort of watch that had twelve handles but no numbers. Dumbledore had one (bottom of page 12 in the Sorcerer's Stone) and if I recall, someone gave the same type of watch to Harry on his seventeenth birthday claiming it was traditional to do so. It seems connected to the question posed in this video. The quote from the book is:"...It had twelve hands but no numbers; instead, little planets were moving around the edge". It doesn't say how many planets there are but assuming that all handles come out of the same middle point, there might be something concerning a coordinate system encoding some unknown information (amongst it, time since Dumbledore looked at it and said that Hagrid was late).
What do you think? Could this artifact (which should be reasonably common since like mentioned was tradition to give to a wizard coming of age) be why astronomy is a subject at Hogwarts? What kind of information could it encode? and why is this information essential enough that it has become tradition to give to every wizard?
Thank you for taking the time to read this and I would love to hear your ideas :)
Since one of their modes of transportation is flying on brooms, if they need to fly long distance it would be great if they had something to do know where they’re at especially since they never really refer to using a roadmap or that they probably wouldn’t be using Muggle technology a.k.a. Cell phones
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I always thought it was because planet alignment / moon phases and such could have an impact on some spellwork. So maybe memorizing the sky would be important. Kind of how you hear about "real life" witches being associated with the moon because they would do spells at night.
Bilquis its true
This is actually true. Plants actually have planetary associations. For example roses have the water element and the planet Venus attached to them.
I always thought the same thing. I know in Wicca different spells are more powerful if cast under different celestial skys.
I thought mabye it was for fortune telling or for mystical/magical creatures spells or transformations
(I wrote this before watching the video just in case I'm right (I'm probably not) )
wasn't there somewhere something about collecting certain ingredients for potions in certain moon phases? Perhaps for more complicated potions planets allignment also is important?
I'm pretty sure they study astronomy because moon and planet positions and such are a pretty big thing in 'real life' magic. Wiccas and green witches will look to these thing when making potions and casting spells. The moon especially was very important, hence why moon calendars are still a big thing
alchemy and potions where heavily related and interacted with astronomy during the renaissance.
I really like your idea. I think maybe the cause could be somehow connected to light and gravity. The position of the celestial objects changes how these 2 are distributed in space and how they effect the Earth. Could be interesting to think about what exactly is magic from the scientific point of view and why and how should magic be affected by these 2. Magic is energy, light and gravity are energy too.
I know the moon was used a lot due to its effect on the ocean and 'the female body' A lot of female wiccas and general spiritual or hippie women use the moon a lot in their rituals and meditations due to the moons effect on, you know, the monthly cycle. But that makes sense for the planets, I still have a lot more research to do tbh XD
Additionally, a lot of the celestial bodies are associated with the elements as well. Venus with Earth, Jupiter with Air, Mars with Fire, and Mercury with Water. That would insinuate that maybe spells that fall under their purview would be more powerful if they were more prominent. A good witch or wizard might use that to their advantage, using the element that would be strongest on a given day.
you're definatly on the right page. British ceremonial magic of the middle ages and renaissance guides a huge amount of things in the books including the four Houses of Hogwarts.
9:25 We already have a story about Space Wizards.
It's called Star Wars.
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"Cause next year ill be transferred to pig farts"-Draco Malfoy^second year(Draco goes on to attempt to gain a rocket ship but has failed and will never be trsnferred to pigfarts)
“Why do magical kids need to know about space?”
Because you can’t just go to Pigfarts. It’s on Mars! You would need a rocket ship.
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It might be navigation. The series end in the 1990s and nobody had google maps yet. If a wizard traveled somewhere by broom then they would have to use the stars at night to tell where they are going and stay hidden from muggles.
woah that actually makes the most sense
A simple spell can point north, as harry learned on the 4th book. Only if for some reason they are not able to use their wand but sounds too specific, one year would be enough. But it's a very good point.
It'll be to do with casting magic, as we know some magic is influenced by or relies upon certain planet's moon's and star's positions - Harry wouldn't need to learn the names of every single one of Jupiter's moons in order to navigate on a broomstick. And as Alexandra Couto says, the four-point spell is a thing.
Anthony Marchiondo That… actually makes a lot of sense. Huh.
The North-pointing spell requires balancing your wand on the palm of your hand, which I would not try to do when flying on a broomstick.
Perhaps someone theorised that the true source of magic is drawing the energy from celestial objects, and over time, famous wizard/astronomers expanded upon this theory.
However, to directly draw magic from the stars and from outer space requires extensive knowledge of the celestial objects out there, hence harry having to learn the moons of Jupiter multiple times over the course of the series.
Another theory that expands upon this one is that magic cannot be done correctly at all, if the wizard does not even remotely consider where they are drawing the energy from.
*TL;DR: space is where wizards draw their magic from*
Are wizards actually aliens?
Ancient Astronaut theorists say Yes
There's also the fact that in ancient times space was a mystical concept, to the point that Roman philosophers connected the names of gods with planets (Jupiter=Zeus, Venus=Aphrodite, ECC...)
czcams.com/video/SCFLM7gOjXg/video.html. Stars, Cosmos, Gods, Animus, Antrum, Unverse, Anima, Animusphere"
That was actually a common view in the medieval and renaissance periods about magic. Albertus Magnus (who amongst other things discovered arsenic and founded the university of Cologne) thought that inscribing symbols associated with planets transmitted some of the planet’s power. Also, the planets were associated with different metals which were thought to gain their properties from the planets (the Sun was associated with gold, Saturn with lead, and Mercury with… mercury).
Finally, the planets were thought to be able to predict the future as a result of them having influence on us, instead of them mapping what the future would hold. That is, Mars could cause people to be more susceptible to anger, so when it was prominent people would predict that there would be an increase of violence and wars. This didn’t contradict free will because simply being more susceptible to anger doesn’t necessitate that any particular person gives into it, but it would increase the chance that each person would and hence could predict general trends (analogous to how increasing prices on a product might predictably decrease how many people will buy it, but does not allow you to make reliable judgments about whether any particular person will still buy it or not). So that’s how astronomy used to be linked to ‘divination’ (though it wasn’t called that).
Astronomy has to do with geometrical shapes that are pivotal in creating ancient runes
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Can you imagine Hermione telling all the pure bloods about the Apollo program
Forgotten cripp
"they did what!!! :O"
Their heads would ****ing explode and they would stare at Hermione for at least 10 minutes, then say something like "Pics or it didn't happen", then she pulls out space books. Cue purebloods staring.
Forgotten cripp yeah like an 11-year-old girl is going to know that they landed Americans on the moon in 1969.
Tenzin Gaga either that, or they’re not going to care. Most likely wizards have already been to the moon years ago.
Not ANY 11-year-old muggle, this is Hermione we're talking about...
my biggest hogwarts course question is not why they take astronomy , its why they DONT take LATIN. or better, latin AND GREEK?? THEIR SPELLS ARE ALL BASICALLY LATIN & GREEK. They would memorize them so much easier if they knew they were saying EXACTLY what the spell does!! i am a language lover and it does. not. make. sense. to me!
I study Latin. I know it's a dying language, but we have to study it. Like Albus is for white, Rubeus is for Red and so on! But I find Latin interesting language.
the translations are probably incorporated into lessons, like i doubt they spend the whole hour block just swinging wands, they probably go over the origin of the spell, its translation and meaning, etc., have never taken a wizarding course, but it makes sense to me
As students they are being taught each spell as part of the classwork. If they knew Greek and Latin, they most likely either start making up their own spells - not good for 1st year students - or this: i imagine all the spells are in Greek or Latin to actually make them work, now imagine students studying the language and accidentally causing magical things to happen. Using an ancient language prevents you from accidentally casting spells, if they were all in English, imagine the nightmare if you just happened to say a sentence and it caused something magical to occur? I always imagined that using Greek or Latin was to NOT cause accidental magical occurrences just from ordinary conversation? Sort of like using a code phrase, speaking in a different language was the way to safely control the spell, after all, a young wizard or witch, just learning English, could cause havoc if English was the language of spell casting.
Sort of exactly like it's explained in the Dresden books - words as a filter
But this would also make the school unnecessarily complicated for dyslexic children or people who dislike learning languages or find it very difficult.
Latin and ancient Greek aren't the easiest languages (I did have them in school) and just learning the spells is probably the smartest thing they could do.
My Therory: the positions of the planet's affect magic or SOME types of magic, similar to the Lunar cycle affecting plants/animals biology and tidal forces on earth. Some magic are easier or more difficult during some planetary positions or extremely rare/normally impossible magics can be performed only at certain precise moments every few years or centuries.
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Dumbledore hired Lockhart because he thought it would be funny.
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Guys, we all know Dumbledore just thought he was cute. Remember young Grindelwald? The man loves blondes.
Actually it's there on Pottermore , Dumbledore wanted to teach Lockhart a lesson because he was one of the only people in the world who knew what Lockhart did , use memory charms on great accomplished witches and wizards to steal their acheivements , his only true achievement was getting witch-weekly's best smile award 5 times in a row
Seems legit.
So he knew Voldemort was trying to come back. He knew Harry was vital in eventually defeating him, so he hires a terrible teacher on purpose?
5:00 Lily 'Moon' (the girl mentioned in the sorting ceremony) was J. K. Rowling's earliest form of Luna Lovegood. It was only when Luna became a more important character later in the book series that Jo gave her a name she found more suitable. Lily Moon was one of the names appearing on the 'Original Thirty' list of students in Harry's year :)
And she used the name Lily Moon for Luna before she had named Harry's mom as Lily Potter
Luna was in ginnys year
I lost it when you made the reference to the musical. Thank you for that.
Bellatrix can betranslated as 'beautiful warrior' ~~OR~~ 'beautiful WAR'. Which rather fits Bella...
(Remember, wizards don't use real Latin. They use a sort of scrambled, bastardized Latin, liberally sprinkled with scraps of Anglo-Saxon...
And I think that they study astronomy because it affects other things. Such as potions, etc, which often have to be made under certain stars, etc. And I think there are instances where time is reckoned by the stars.
Uh, no. Bellatrix comes from bellum, meaning war. Bellatrix means female warrior. It's the female version of bellator. A very simple less-than-one-minute-google-search would've told you this. Bellus, bella, bellum can mean pretty or beautiful but beautiful war would be bellum bellum or, more probably, bellum pulchrum. Beautiful warrior would either be bellator bellus/bellatrix bella or bellator pulcher/bellatrix pulchra. A beautiful woman would just be bella, used as a noun, or pulchra. A translation for beauty can be pulchritudo or venustas - venustas can also be an adjective (it means beauty in a more sexualized way, though).
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Draco said that????
I always just assumed that if the moon can affect werewolves then other celestial bodies could affect other things
Wereboars are affected by Mars!
The reason Lockhart was hired was because Dumbledore correctly assumed that putting him in a school environment would reveal Lockhart’s secret, which Dumbledore knew because he was friends with a wizard Lockhart had brainwashed
They teach astronomy at Hogwarts because they don't want wizards tweeting "The sun is a sun, get your facts straight".
I like to think that Dumbledoor Knew about the curse on the Defense against the Dark Arts class and hired Lockhart JUST because he wanted something bad to happen to him
In the book it says Dumbledore hired Lockhart because he was the only one who signed up for the position of the Dark Arts teacher.
To add on to Movie Lover's comment, he also said he thought it would be entertaining to see Lockhart make a fool of himself, so you're not that far from the truth.
Maybe the planets have an effect on their magic like the moon and werewolfs. Like don't use accio when Pluto is alined with Neptune or your stuff explodes.
Deborah Heuzen *werewolves
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Honestly, this makes a lot of sense.
Expelliarmus sometimes disarms somebody... and sometimes knocks you out cold and throws you half way through a wall.
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In the book it was 3 expelliarmus spells that knocked out Snape.
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I always thought it was a hold over from a time when more magic was considered acceptable and it was for rituals or something along those line or perhaps collecting potions ingredients
What if they just loved astronomy?
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He hired Lockheart to expose him.
Pleasentzach --I think Dumbledore hired him because he always had trouble filling that ‘cursed’ teaching spot and Lockhart actually asked for the job. I’m picturing Albus jumping up & down ‘You betcha!’🕺🕺🕺
Might it be to orient themselves, especially if they are flying. At least that is what many people used hundreds of years ago, which seems to be the level of technology of wizards
its wizarding GPS, Navigation by the stars is a skill. On top of that they need to know moon cycles for picking potions ingredients,
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Nah, I don't think that the HP universe has a geocentric (earth centered universe which Ptolemy theorised). Wizards, from my understanding, tend to understand the advances which muggles have made. Think about this, if you will: A muggle studies teacher whose literal job is to keep up on what muggle culture is like would know all about things like the moon landing, NASA, and current scientific theories.
Also, the first muggle-born kid who they try to convince that the sun goes around the earth would be like "Erm...thats wrong."
Muggle studies should be a requirement rather than an election
Well only the ones that are common knowledge since they do allow muggles in. However this means they are always several decades behind.
actually, due to the nature of relativity, any object you choose to be the centre, is the centre.
I'm pretty sure Slughorn was one of the best potioneers alive and gave his students an amazing education.
As someone who tried to study Ptolemy I can attest that his work is soft magic in that the studying of his work is itself a means to learn to concentrate and since Hogwarts is a western school it makes more sense to study it than meditation. The thing that trips me up is the lack of geometry beforehand,, because ptolemy is predicated on Euclid.
Awesome video! Once again answering all of the questions on Harry Potter I would've never even thought to have asked. Love learning from experts like you guys!
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Wotso Videos they answered what question I didn't get any answers I now know the blacks were named after stars but that's about it astronomy is still unknown why they teach it
Can you guys make a video about how our house elves are born? Great video by the way!
Addison Wells in the CoS House editions, due in July, is going to feature house elves.
I want to know this to!! Do the owners just make breeding arrangements with other owners? Hmmm
Addison Wells well when a mommy house elf and a daddy house elf fall in love...
Cixous Lecomte they make a goblin...? ;)
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Is harry the only wizard with glasses? Just relieved that🤣 also, wouldn’t petunia and Vernon would have not cared that much about his well being so why would or should I say how or when dose he get glasses?
Well they like to use him as a servant- so if he can't see clearly he would be likely breaking a lot of stuff, and anytime Dudley or his minions broke them they'd have an excuse to abuse him over it, and cry to anyone who cared that he was breaking them on purpose because of his *bad blood*..?
A lot of wizards/witches have glasses: Dumbledore, McGonagall, Percy, Trelawny, Mr. Weasley.. But I have always wondered why the Dursley’s bought him glasses when they don’t even buy him clothes
@@elizabethrose644 who knows, maybe it was a gift from Mrs Figg.
They didn't bother buying a new one when it broke too
Also remember this is Britain. Even in the 90s their healthcare would have greatly reduced the cost of corrective lenses so the Dursley’s wouldn’t be out hundreds of pounds. Only in America is poverty a barrier to good sight (written by the eldest child of four all of whom need glasses in a family that was always living below the poverty line in the States. We’ve since moved abroad and it’s amazing the healthcare you receive in literally any other country.)
School could have required it. If he wasn't able to see in class or at all really the school could pushed to have the Dursleys get them for him.
According to the game, some potion ingredients need to be picked or used during certain moon phases. The polyjuice potion takes a month to make because the ingredients or the potion itself needs to mature by moon phases. This is also the case for the animagus potion. On a different note, Dumbledore had a watch that told time with planetary movements.
Why do magical kids need to know about space? WHY DON'T THEY NEED TO LEARN MATHS? OR ENGLISH?
wildironprincess I always figured their parents taught them the more mundane subjects like math.
wildironprincess i know like what if a wizard wants a muggle jobb
I think that parents taught them how to speak and count, after all they stay at home for eleven years ^^
Well, now what do we learn in maths in college? If I remember well, it's the begin of the "boring maths that you'll never used in everyday life". I mean, how many times do you use Pythagore or Thales theorem? XD
We study maths because it's the base of all our society, our society is based on science and science is based on scientific method (which is one of the thing the more useful in math class ^^) and physics or mechanic, which are derived from... maths ^^'
But if you never have to use physics, mechanics and so during yout life, this maths will never be useful. All the science you do in college and high school will be useful to like 10% of the class who will continue in very scientific jobs, and the average student will just forgot all of these ten years after High School ^^
I think it's the same in Hogwarts, Astronomy is useful for like 10% of the students who will continue un very advanced magic, and the average student will never bother with taht again.
For example, if Hermione continue his studies and became a famous spellmaker, who search for new spells, I'm sure she will need to know all about the sky, because it had to be important in advanced magic. But Harry, who became an Auror, all he have to know is to use Stupefix quicker than his opponent XD
THEY GO TO SCHOOL BEFORE HOGWARTS,IT IS BRITAIN.
I was pretty sure the maths did themselves, at least in the books. I distinctly remember someone writing down an equation and the one of the numbers beat the shit out of the other, wizard's chess style. That could easily have been a fanfic though.....
Merope was a Pleiade/companion of Artemis/ daughter of a greek good who fell in love with a mortal, and thus making her the faintest star in her constellation. Sounds familiar, doesn't it?
The character called ‘Moon’ was originally going to be Luna ( her name was going to be Lily Moon) but JKR changed the name when the character became more prevalent in the series.
Slughorn and Snape both say certain ingredients are most effective when picked at a certain time of day/lunar cycle. Maybe wizards study space to know how to determine the best timing to procure their own potion ingredients or times to brew their potions. Who knows, maybe a potion out there is best when brewed when you're aligned with Jupiter.
*Obviously* old Dumbles hired Lockhart because he had a crush on him lol
Omigod yes!
Actually, Dumbledore hired Lockhart because he knew 2 of the wizards who lost their memories to Lockhart.
Alex Downs
I know, I was just joking lol
grumpy bear lol
grumpy bear very true love
don't moon positions have something to do with when you make certain potions and pick certain plants?
Yes, but even primitive cultures could predict moon phases. It would hardly take five years of study.
We're talking about the same group that's 'most evil dark wizard of all time' couldn't kill a baby, and hired Lockhart, actual Voldemort, and umbitch. Moreover, they all graduated from Hogwarts... WHY ARE THEY SPENDING 5 YEARS ON ASTRONOMY WHEN APPARENTLY THEY'RE GRADUATES ARE USELESS AND EVIL?? You're right one year of Astronomy to figure out when to do stuff and then just kind of make it part of the other curriculum then replace that time slot with math or English or Latin or make Muggle Studies mandatory cuz apparently no one knows what a rubber duck is, and maybe a Health class? And why do they keep around a ghost to teach history if he's awful at his job??
WHo's in charge of what these kids are learning???? and can someone fire them??
9:25: "..space wizards..."
O.M.G.
STAR WARS
THE JEDI ARE SPACE WIZARDS
I always enjoy your Harry Potter theories!!! Your vlogs make it sooooo enjoyable to revisit the books....So many mind-blowing references on astrology/astronomy ... So many things to learn ... Keep up the good work 😊
8:56 🎶 doofenshmirtz evil incorporated 🎶
“YOU NEED A ROCKET SHIP!” HHAHAH AVMP
Hahaha, so they study astronomy so they can find cool names to name their kids. Also, I never noticed how many of the Harry Potter characters were named after stars, constellations, moons etcetera. Thanks for pointing that out, you guys always find or come up with the craziest things but that's what makes your videos so interesting and enjoyable to watch. Thank you.
The centaurs actually predicted Harry's death in the forest by Voldemort, in the Philosopher's Stone. That is why Baine was so angry at Firenze because he saved Harry, thus interfering with the stars. What they didn't know was that the prediction was for 6 years later in Deathly Hallows.
Dumbledore? He’s nothing compared to...RUMBLEROAR. He’s a lion. Who can talk.
Krissy Renea wow you are absolutely beautiful 🙂
I know this reference...
Krissy Renea how are you doing
Lockhart was hired because he was the only candidate ;)
And Dumbledore knew something would happen to expose him as a fraud, given the Curse on the Defense Position.
Actually, Dumbledore personally knew two of the wizards who Lockhart erased the memories of, so he tracked him down and offered him a position for DADA teacher. Lockhart was reluctant to do so, but accepted it when Dumbledore mentioned that Harry Potter was a second-year student and that being his teacher would boost his own fame.
Alex Downs how do you know that? Because it's not in the books and I've never heard it before, sounds pretty cool though (and not unlikely seeing that Dumbledore himself searched for applicants for at least year 3, 4, 5 and 6)!
Dagmar Eileen It’s on the Harry Potter Wiki.
Alex Downs I see, and I've found the original source, a piece of writing by J.K. Rowling on Pottermore;
www.pottermore.com/writing-by-jk-rowling/gilderoy-lockhart
thank you for clearing this up!! (:
Little quest:
Touch the planet - - >🌎
Do you feel the bubble?
No?
Then earth is flat!
Astronomy could be connected to complex enchantments and some complex potions. I could also see it as a matter of Wizards were already trying to explore space (seriously they have flying cars what's stopping them from having really good rockets).
DO YOU HAVE A ROCKET SHIP POTTER???
Grace Good pig farts pigfarts here I come pigfarts pigfarts yum yum yum
There are fanfics (usually crossovers) were there is space travel.
no i left it in pigfarts on mars
The Minecraft Gamer26
Oh no, it’s a 7 year old.
"luke, i am your father." J 2018
NyGeL why would Ben ever say that. Luke is J's son
"No, you're my Uncle" :p
4ndy AWESOME oops
Most misquoted line ever😂😂😂😂(unless the Mandela effect is real)😝😝😝😝😝
Krankar Volund "I'm not your uncle" - Uncle Felix
I love the fact that you brought up Pigfarts. The second you started talking about space, I started quoting AVPM.
Some plants must be picked during certain cycles of the moon for some potions
Space wizards= Jedi,
Star wars/Harry Potter crossover, sounds fun
Dakota Anderson yes and Deatheaters are the sith
Plz. Make happen. George Lucas and JK Rowling. I need.
I saw someone do that... but wtf, I can't paste the link for some reason? (had to type all that manually, good thing it worked)
parodious-sarchasm.tumblr.com/post/168294719969/happy-slug-onionknife-happy-slug
Me- I'm going to bed
Me- I guess I'm not!
It should be like this:
Me: I'm going to bed.
*Checks his phone notification*
Again me: I guess I'm not!
I guess so, that's certainly what I meant. I'm not going to edit because edited comments are annoying, but thanks anyway.
9:27 oh my god
I love that play
"Voldemort a Capricorn...." Me, a proud capricorn: GODDAMNIT NOT AGAIN!
STARKID REFERENCE
Do you have a rocketship, Potter?
Mars Sure Is Bright Tonight
YES!! A Starkid reference from J!!!
"And if you're good, Professor Rumbleroar will let you ride on his back."
I got a ad that JK Rowling was in while watching this.
SlytherinKing 1 same
Same
At the very least, astronomy would be necessary for Potions since there are several formulas that need to be brewed (or have ingredients harvested) at specific times.
It would also be potentially useful for those looking at a career dealing with magical creatures, as some of them have different behaviors at different times of the year (werewolves and mooncalves, etc).
That's not even considering the possibility that some higher-end spells might rely on some manner of cosmic alignment instead of just being "say this phrase while waving a magic stick in this pattern"
Part of the reason I’m taking astronomy next year is because it’s taught at Hogwarts
Part of me thinks JK Rowling just didn't want to do much research on the stars, lol.
But my personal plot-hole filling headcanon is that the positions of the stars have an effect on magic. Sort of like in The Magicians Trilogy, but less extreme. You don't need to adjust how you cast or anything, but certain stars being in certain positions might make a spell stronger or weaker. And I could be wrong, but don't some of the more difficult potions need to be made during a spell it is phase of the moon?
That's right, with real magic... Like when the moon is waning, that's a good time to cast things out of your life... a full moon is definitely for more powerful magic... A waxing moon promotes growth...
Real Magic :) YES!
RUMBLEROAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HerosMuse he's a LION who can TALK
Right next to the student named Moon is the last name "Nott", which is from the Old Norse for "Night"
The fact that J turns into Dr. Doofenshmirtz cracked me up 😂
i never questioned why they would study astronomy because it ties in so closely with magick. makes perfect sense to me also dumbledore didn't just hire slughorn or lockhart for one singular purpose or no reason. At the time everyone else was too afraid to take the post as defense against the dark arts teacher since rumours it had been cursed were already circulating
Capricorns have to do with goats... is Aberforth a Capricorn?
9:08 did you voice Doofenshmurtz cause you sound exactly like him here
Jed Sharp I can only think of that when I watch that scene now
thank you Jhon iv been wandering this forever.
I think they learn it just because it gives a well rounded education, it’s just general knowledge. After all, in muggle schools we teach subjects without any real practical application as well.
True but it'd be cool if they were up to speed with astronomy like knowing the heliocentric concept
@@priscillajimenez27 they know Jupiter and Saturn have moons and physical characteristics of them, even though they could have learned it through magically enhanced telescopes
You have been brewing Polyjuice potion and believe me, I'm going to find out why!
Ottawa3453 he's gonna disguise himself as his brother
I have a perfume called polyjuice potion
It's because J is Ben's imaginary friend so Ben drinks polyjuice potion for J's vids
Why are "these socks amazing" in the "towel section"??
ok but re-reading the series again all at once and getting to the forbidden forest part in book 1 gave me an "ah-ha!" like it was cool seeing the war getting hinted at
I hate to admit that I know this... Most magical practitioners learned the stars and planets to know when to make certain potions, produce a child to be born at the parents desired time, and various other things. This was born out of knowing when to plant and harvest crops and since that worked the people of the time applied it to pretty much everything else. The science they used for rain forecasting (looking at ant mound buildups, leaves on certain trees turning over and the like) accurately predicted rain... As did a rainbow ring that haloed the moon a few days in advance of rain. Ice crystals forming in the upper atmosphere causes these phenomena. I hope that helps explain it a bit better.
1:25 the stars do move in the sky from earth’s perspective
Hannah Johnson I was thinking this as well & the galaxies also shift either towards to away from each other
navigation perhaps when travelling, as well as the making of potions. I'll bet some really obscure potions need some sort of ingredient to be imbued with the light of a certain star or set under a specific constellation for an amount of time or to be combined once a set of stars are aligned.
J's Potter-Puppet-Pals Dumbledore voice is both hilarious & sort of scary.
Hello supercarlinbrothers your videos are always a banger I always like the video before watching it because I already know that your videos are going to be awesome
Do wizards have use for muggle astronomy? New horizons, Curiosity?
Hubble? Spitzer?
i love that you guys just randomly reference AVPM (the best musical ever)
That umhmm umhmmm was so hilarious 😂😂
Can you make a video on what aberforth did to the goats?
Macman 07 we need this now!
Yeah my assumption has always been it's use in other fields. It's specified that the moon cycle has meaning in certain potions, like polyjuice so other planetary movements could affect more advanced potions. And it's not a far stretch to me to think that it's used in herbology and dada as well.
That being said though, do you think wizards know that muggles have been to the moon?
Further consideration: magic aliens.
5:02 - "Nott"
Critters' heads explode!
9:08 That impression is hilarious!!!