Simpsons Mysteries - Homer Loves Mindy
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- Hey Homer, you're hallucinating again...
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On re-watching the video, I want to make a correction that Mindy and Marge's outfits are not "exactly" the same. Marge's outfit is much more revealing and has more of a lace pattern, looks more like a nighty than an actual evening dress. I don't think it changes the over-arching argument being made in that section (that Homer is morphing Mindy and Marge's image), but it is worth noting. I think the difference between outfits makes the theory slightly weaker overall.
Please add closed captions for all your videos
If you wanted to add a slightly subversive twist, it could be that Homer bought the nighty with Mindy's dress in mind.
TheRealJims LOVE your videos, but your trip down the rabbit hole of logical consistency and the distance to Capital City is a bit over the top. What we see on the screen is exactly what happened. The beauty of the Simpsons is that Homer and Marge really do have a great relationship.
M him cherr
go fuck yourself steven, enough negative attention for you?
It was actually Barnie he slept with
It's not gay if they keep their socks on
That's hot ❤️
maskofthedragon Marge you’re making a fool of youresl- oh wait it’s just Barney
i misread it as bernie and thought you meant bernie sanders oh my god
@@prageruwu69 Oh, Bernie Sanders too. It was an extremely hot three way. They felt the bern in bed.
I always really loved how Mindy respected Homer’s choice and didn’t want to do anything he was uncomfortable with. It’s such a nice change from the typical seductress home wrecker trope, this episode really just feels like two people made an unexpected connection and don’t know how to deal with it and it’s sweet to watch them respectfully work through it. The ending with Marge was just the cherry on top and really sweet.
I know this isn’t really related to the theory but I just love this episode man
As he said, Mindy is portrayed quite sympathetically
Unexpected connections by themselves are not sinful. It's how you end up dealing with it...be willing to work through the surprise and confusion to find your moral grounding and think clearly again...that says a lot more.
Mindy KNEW he was married, right? I don't recall there ever being a scene where it explicitly shows that she does. Did she think he was single, or did she know he was a married man? I know Homer mentions Marge at the end, but as far as I can recall, that's the first Mindy hears of her.
I don't think she knew he was married, especially since he loses his wedding ring or it's cover by the fat of his finger.
Exactly, like they once said, it's a cartoon, you don't have to look much into it...
We do see Mindy in the background when Marge goes to sell pretzels at the power plant in season 8 ... I assume she recovered from her alcoholism and then got her job back. Good for her!
she's in the season before, season 7 in the "homewreckers" bowling team.
She's also in the background of Mountain of Madness
Jumble, was that when Homer hired Fat Tony's gang to threaten Marge's competition to her pretzel-selling?
KenTerminatedbyGoogle yeah
You're right; about 4 seconds in: czcams.com/video/GgIdlAesaiA/video.html
Couldn't find her in Mountain of Madness, though.
It was mindy that actually shoot mr burn
Nice
They just couldnt afford to get Michelle Pfeiffer back to voice the role again
@@dennisbowen452 it dosn't make sense with my post
yes it does.
@@dennisbowen452 ha I see now but no
The fact that we don't see her makes it plausible
I too really hate how she was written off in "Another Simpsons Clipshow". It feels so mean-spirited, since she came across as a genuinely kind person and wasn't forcing herself on Homer, like Lurleen was.
She was seen in the background in the power plant in the pretzel wagon episode . She must have recovered from her alcoholism and got her job back
@@Freshlydeliveredegg I think Homer got Mindy and Lurleen mixed up, Mindy didn't lose her job and didn't seem like someone who became a drunk, she was seen later seasons at the plant with the same nice expression on her face. Lurleen, on the other hand, showed up a season later after "Colonel Homer" looking raggity and saying with a different raspy cranky voice "I spent last night in a ditch". When Homer stopped being her manager and passed her to that seedy guy, he apparently screwed her over and she lost her singing gigs, then had no more income and lost her trailer rendering her homeless, and turned to heavy drinking. So she's the one who lost her job and hit the bottle.
@@alvexok5523 That makes a lot of sense! I've always wondered
@@watchwithkara Yeah. That's how I've seen it. And you know Homer, sometimes gets things mixed up.
It's kinda sad what happened to Lurleen, she had that sweet voice, and then turned bitter due to bad luck, indirectly caused by Homer wanting to stay faithful to his wife instead of staying with Lurleen
@@alvexok5523 didn’t she get back on top in one episode though?
Mindy Simmons... M....S!?!?
This called for Who REALLY Shot Mr. Burns Part 6!
guys i cant beliebe it miby simpson would never do that this is so sad
@Wolfgalaxy
Would make more sense if she was fired before she *fired* back.
Wolfgalaxy Hmmm. There’s one S18 ep where Homer says he shot Mr. Burns and blamed it on Maggie. Maybe Homer considers himself responsible for Mindy’s spiral down into alcoholism. And through association, he’d be indirectly responsible for her drunkenly shooting Mr Burns.
Oh yeah. It’s all coming together.
Miyuki Sawashiro, or a Mobile Suit.
Then there is Mona Simpson…
@Wolfgalaxy plot twist: they exchanged Smithers with Simmons in the script. Did Homer sleep with Smithers?
I always assumed the hotel scene with Marge was much further into the future, like a few weeks.
That turkey is remarkably well preserved then.
That's a great point, maybe I thought it was a different turkey too, which is kind of nonsensical.
No way. That room was paid by burns. Why would they choose the exact same room with the turkey. No reason to assume that.
The turkey shot Mr Burns, then returned to the hotel to pretend to have been there the whole time :p
That was my thought. That it happened like a week later or something. Homer recognized that he really wanted Marge and arranged a similar weekend getaway with her at the same hotel.
This is one of my favourite Simpsons episodes. The way it genuinely but sympathetically explores having a crush whilst being in a committed relationship is pitch perfect. It shows that neither of them are bad people, its natural to be a attracted to other people even if you have a partner. And I like how they portray Homer’s conflict - he doesn’t want to hurt Marge but he can’t help how he feels. But the ending with the surprise reveal of Marge is the icing on the cake. It shows that commitment is the most important component in a relationship and just because you have other attractions doesn’t mean you have to act on them. Marge and Homer’s commitment and love for each other is stronger than fleeting attraction.
I disagree with the natural attraction no miss you love someone you will never feel anything for anyone else and if you do feel something then they’re not the one you should be with because you’re not supposed to feel anything for anyone but your partner but of course cheaters have different mindsets
I been with my man for 3 years and people have passed by me talked to me and nothing ever ignited in me saying ooooh I’m naturally attracted this is natural yeah!!! No it’s a toxic trait
I always hate when the show or fans try to insist that Mindy is like Jacque or Lurleen or something. Jacque was actively trying to break up Homer and Marge just to sleep with Marge, while Mindy was just being Homer's friend. Talking to him, enjoying using their business for room service, etc. She even states at the end that yeah, she'd like to have sex with Homer but she knows he's married, and respects his choice either way. She's very sympathetic and nice. She has a crush on a coworker, but she tries to make friends with him either way and respects him when he decides to no longer hang out with her due to the awkwardness. Overall, out of all of the characters in the many "marriage crisis" episodes they have where a character tries to break up or sleep with Homer or Marge, Mindy is my favorite because she's so funny, nice, sweet, and just generally a good person
Why don't you just ask her out bro
Word, Bro. Got me.
Lurleen: *I want to sleep with you tonight~*
Yeah unlike Lurleen who came on to him and tried to seduce him and even forced a kiss on him. She was always just a friend to Homer despite having deeper feelings for him.
I'm glad that they didn't end up together though, even though they're WAY better matched, let's face it, they both need someone like Marge to keep them functional.
This theory has always struck me as some Ash's Coma level fan reaching. People wanting there to be a dark seedy undertone for the sake of there being one. Great video as always, Jims. You did a great job tackling this.
Ahh yes, the coma/purgatory/dream/hallucination theories, where you crowbar edgy garbage into it without having to deal with making any sense in canon
Well, I wouldn’t say it was a HUGE reach. The episode isn’t exactly subtle about it. Even though there are holes in the theory, as pointed out, it’s clearly left vague.
Coma and hallucination theories often try to explain stuff that clearly wasn’t intended to be thought of. This clearly was. Despite this video, I feel this is a choice intentionally left up to the viewer. I mean, any inconsistency, you can just hand wave with “isn’t the same night” or “hallucination”.
I always hate when a theory is “character is in coma!” or “character is insane!”
Like, why can’t I just enjoy a show for what it is?
I do think ash is in a coma...the explosion he suffered was insane...and misty being his friend?..tracking him down?..yeah right...she hated him and he sucked as a trainer..no way he bonded with pokemon...
Ppl trying to justify their own cheating
I had a VHS tape called 'The Last Temptation of Homer.'
Did it contain this episode.
It did not.
Was it a Simpsons Porno?
At least you got the VHS. One Christmas I got a DVD of the first 5 episodes of Ben 10: Alien Force with no disc inside
@@nickrustyson8124 Sadly not, it was 4 episodes, all from seasons 1 and 2, which were ancient at the time.
@@apocrypha5363 hold up
Me too. Good episodes anyway, best one is Colonel Homer.
Homer: the harem protagonist
Considering another woman hit on him in a modern season it makes sense
Lol yes
the simpsons is my favorite harem anime
@a Lurleen.
As a Homer fangirl I agree with that and many of us wanted daddy Homer but Marge is always there
I totally agree with the points you make in the last few minutes of the video (and I love that quote from ToonrificTariq). To me, the main thing that's always separated Homer from other terrible cartoon fathers like Peter Griffin and Randy Marsh, is that when all the chips are down, ultimately, he will do the right thing. Homer may be thoughtless, and reckless, but he genuinely LOVES his wife - the show has gone out of its way to show that over and over. That's the reason why the show can get away with doing so many marriage crisis episodes - because when they reconcile at the end, you can genuinely believe it. I still think the best marriage crisis episode - and the one that best illustrates why they're still together - isn't even one revolving around Homer. It's Life on the Fast Lane. Because that episode, way back in season 1, highlights Homer's main faults as a husband - his selfishness and carelessness, and puts Marge in a situation where we can totally understand why she is smitten by another guy who pays attention to her. Yet with just one scene - that scene in the kitchen where Homer makes the clumsy analogy about the way Marge makes sandwiches - it shows us that despite all of his stupidity, his love for Marge is very pure, no different from that teenager who was first smitten in high school, and makes clear why Marge couldn't go through with leaving him, because he really does care.
When you compare Life on the Fast Lane to the Homer focused marriage crisis episodes, you can notice a clear difference. Marge is much more proactive in LOTFL, actively going out of her way to spend time with Jacques, knowing full well what it means, while in Homer's episodes, he tends to stumble blindly into these near-cheating situations. He doesn't realise that Lurleen wants him, and while he knows he's attracted to Mindy, he goes out of his to avoid spending time with her. And I think it's because ultimately the writers know that unlike Marge, who's a more morally right character, and therefore can afford to have such a slip-up and still be likeable, Homer's character is much more bullish, and therefore must tread a much more careful line. They know that to get away with having him do all these awful things for the sake of comedy, they have to give him a soft side that still makes you able to root for him. And that soft side is, as ToonrificTariq said, the fact that he'd do anything for Lisa, and ESPECIALLY the fact that his love for Marge is ultimately a very strong and pure one, and that the thought to stray would never even occur to him, unless, as you said when reviewing Last Temptation, the whole universe conspired against him.
I agree that the writers can't write an episode where Homer cheats on Marge since that would make him irredeemable in the eyes of the audience because of his other vices, but I disagree that it fits his character, I think it's completely unrealistic. Maybe he wouldn't go out of his way to cheat on her if he had time to consider it. But he has so little self control when it comes to literally anything he wants, be it beer, food, leisurly activity etc., that if he was shoved into a situation where his ability restrain himself was tested like that, where he didn't have time to consider and didn't even need to do anything, just roll with it, then I think he would fall to the temptation like he does to more or less all temptations in his life. The only reason he doesn't do it is because he has zero "moral wiggle room", because the audience would hate him after that and that isn't what the writers want
Life in the Fast Lane is season 1 before Marge became fully developed. I can’t imagine later Marge doing something like that.
Indeed good sir
Agreed
For me the biggest argument against Homer deluding himself on cheating with Mindy is that almost always his delusions are olayed for laughs and are clearly shown to be delusions. There's no point of adding a delusion if it doesn't make for a joke.
The "unsexy delusion" of Barney morphing into the very much sexy delusion of Mindy could be the first sign of Homer's fantasy being taken over
Exactly. Homer might lie to himself, but the show has no reason to lie to the audience. Whenever Homer (or anyone else for that matter) is having a delusion, it's always made obvious to the audience that it is a delusion. That throws the theory out of the window as there's no joke in lying to the audience unless they explicitly reveal at some point that it was a lie. That's just basic narrative convention. You can screw with the audience if you like but eventually you have to tell them you did, or what's the point? It would be a joke only the writers could ever get.
If Marge is with Homer the day after his night with Mindy, then that turkey has been sitting behind the bed for an entire day
This IS the man who won't let an actively rotting hoagie go to waste, to his detriment. I don't think Homer really cares about that sort of thing.
@@KonekoneFukkatsu you'd think Marge would have a different reaction to picking up a turkey thats been sitting out for a day though. Though its perfectly plausible she's ignoring her disgust at it for Homer's sake.
Mindy ate Homer's ass confirmed
Welldone
@@Magmafrost13 congratulations, you can do simple maths 👏
as a kid the ending confused the hell out of me cus the rest was so "serious" and i didnt get the whole thing with marge just appearing
I think the writers wrote themselves in a corner (they didn't want Homer to cheat on Marge but they didn't want to scrap the Capital city stuff either) so they resorted to a "deus ex machina" ending
Hell no. The writers wrote the whole episode around that ending
Were you slow as a kid?
@@domoshea4104 were you an asshole as a kid? Seems like you still are.
Hey Homer, you're hallucinating again...
not a good sign
ravager48
Marge: don't you push them, Lenny and Carl have to figure things out for themselves.
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The dresses worn by Mindy and Marge aren't the same. You can see differences around the neckline. They just both happen to be red :P
Mindy has more hips too.;p
Yeah, felt strange this wasn't acknowledged
The episode made me feel wrong.
Bow Legged I think anything like this is odd. Like when marge had dinner with Flanders. The Simpsons has changed to a more family friendly show. I like it when marge and Homer can connect on a new level. Things just changed for the show.
I personally think that the small differences in the dress were made precisely to avoid confusion and ended up confusing plenty of people
I could see Mindy having Homer's addictive personality and somehow showing up to work drunk once or twice, but not having Homer's "George Jetson Job Security," as there's no doubt he did the same multiple times without too much repercussion. I'd assume Homer hearing rumors somehow linking it to hitting the bottle. I do agree that the implications that she'd fall into such a deep depression after Homer's rejection she'd become a severe alcoholic is pretty mean spirited and incredibly dark. Then again, there was the time when Lurleen Lumpkin "spent last night in a ditch."
Well it's hard to feel bad for Lurleen because she knew Homer had a family and made multiple advances on him.
As for Mindy I agree. She never made any overt advances on Homer that I recall. Even then I don't know if she ever found out he was married.
@@PlanetZoidstar The clips show her at his office space and we know there's a ton of pictures of Maggie. So she at least knew he had a daughter and never asked.
The important thing here is Margie found him a turkey.
This episode always hit me differently, it ends like a dream, and leaves one feeling nostalgic for something that never happened.
idk, in the early seasons Homer had this respect for Marge, he wouldve never done the later things like blaming her for the car accident, he had this big line with their relationship.
The whole point of this episode is to show Homer and Marge’s love and bond. Yeah maybe it wasn’t Marges best most attractive week on earth but they are still soulmates. Which is backed up in the soulmate episode. That’s the quality of the show, even after all this mayhem and absurdity, the average viewer can relate to Homer and his love for his wife. I think this shows Homer true integrity. He wanted this romantic evening but not with some women he fantasized about but with his wife. Homer might not be the smartest person but he knows he can rely on his heart and his heart is with Marge.
Mindy actually did return after the clip show episode. She appeared in “Team Homer” as part of a bowling team with Jacques, Lurleen and Princess Kashmir. Their team name was ‘The Homewreckers.’
As funny as that callback was, I thought that wasn't fair to Mindy or Princess Kashmir in particular since Mindy was never going out of her way to get into Homer's pants (unless Homer gave the OK anyway) and Kashmir didn't even know Homer and was just doing her job lol.
Homer's fidelity is one of his few consistent saving graces.
I was expecting a reference to the "homewreckers" bowling team
I'm surprised Mr Burns wasn't on the Homewreckers Team in Team Homer, because he did try to romance Marge in Marge Gets a Job.
That's a good point about mr. Burns
Bit hard to be on the Homewreckers team when you're already on the Pin Pals :p
@@haydenmcqueenie8987 that is also a good point
I always just assumed the Marge scene happened a different day, Homer seems surprised by the turkey as if he can’t believe it’s still there, and Marge being healthy again and commenting that “this was a good idea,” implied to me that after Homer got back he suggested the idea and then they went back later, rather than calling her the same night.
oh Colonel Klink, why have you forsaken me?
“Did you get all the letters I sent?”
"Did Homer have sex w/ Mindy Simmons?"
"First of all, how dare you!"
What most likely happened is that Homer caved into his carnal desire and instinct; they both ordered room service, AGAIN! And then pigged out on the food, AGAIN!
Mindy who had already declared that she willingly will go with what ever Homer wants, probably had no problem with that.
That is honestly the most in-character storyline.
*It's not the same dress.* Mindy's dress has a smooth v-neck collar, but Marge's dress has a frilly collar and a bow.
Also, Mindy's dress has a belt with no slit; Marge's dress has a slit with no belt.
Same colour =/= Same dress.
Right. I feel like the differences are pretty conspicuous, lol.
Really more of a piece of lingerie than a dress. Maybe a slip.
yeah but I guess you could also say that he imagined the dress in more of a style that Marge would wear to help with the delusion?
@@eenayhs What Homer might be thinking is far beyond my comprehension...
I'm just observing the evidence as the show has presented it.
I refuse to believe this, simply for the fact that the Homer's fidelity is the ONLY redeeming quality to his character. We're not there yet, in terms of Simpsons characterisation.
Well he's either in love with Mindy, or a man named Andy.
Woo Hoo a Simpsons Mystery. Never clicked so fast. And don't mind having more Simpsons Mysteries debunking theories.
It seems to me that there’s a rule that governs every fantasy homer has in the episode. It’s a consistent aesthetic choice when portraying fantasy land. The rule is this: always show it in a way that unambiguously lets the audience know that homer is fantasizing. See 2:45
A lot of shows and movies follow this rule and aim never to conflate (like, in something like 8 1/2) fantasy and reality. They do not allow for ambiguity and forbid the audience even momentary confusion. In this popular aesthetic ghosts are invariably see-through. There are no “plain-clothes” angels and an imagined animal always talks or sings as though to say: “Just so you know, I’m perfectly impossible.”
I think a good writer (if the ambiguity at the end were intended) would have set it up by showing fantasies earlier in the episode that were plausible as real events and then in subsequent scenes clarifying these as fantastic... then in the last scene, repeating the pattern of ambiguity and closing without the final clarification.
As it is, I think it’s obvious from the consistent aesthetic they employ when homer is fantasizing that the intent was what it seems: to bring Marge into the script in the flesh and not as a psychological projection.
The real question is why so many viewers “know about”... are wise to an infidelity that’s not a part of an official story line... but that isn’t about homer’s psychology or incomplete official storyline but of our own.
It would be cruel to marge and the audience to take away one of homers few redeeming qualities
TheRealJims: Do you think Homer slept with Mindy?
Me:...
The RealJims:...
Me: Mindy has a motorcycle :)
I always thought it was sad that Homer n Mindy found someone they were compatible with n they couldn't be together. She knew he was married n she respected that n let Homer decide on what to do. Rather than Lurlene who met his family n still would sleep with a married man. I just mention her cause it's an easy comparison to make. But the kiss on the bed could be considered enough to count is as cheating, it depends on where you draw that line in your definition of cheating. I don't think Mindy is a home wrecker, I think she just met a man she could never be with n accepted it.
Well Homer did make the first move from what I remember.
It really is a tragedy in many ways. They would have been happy together. As would Marge. It would have worked out better for everyone involved. He just can't go back in time, and trying to make that change now would hurt too many people.
Falling in love with someone else or recognizing the possibility for a satisfying relationship doesn't have to mean that you're unhappy with an existing relationship. There isn't one singular soulmate.
Homer is a lot of things but not a cheater. He's a loyal dude.
Pretty much anytime Homer has some sort of sexual fantasy, he's always with Marge.
I thought you were going to talk about the theory of Mindy Simmons being a fabrication of Homer's imagination or something like that…
Adding to the turkey point, why would Mindy call Homer ''Homie''.
10:17 "We have to accept that, while Homer is screwing Mindy... The Simpsons is screwing the audience. " LOL OK 💀💀
Actually Marge stopped being stuffed up when she tells Bart that he doesn't need his glasses anymore after two weeks.
I love these Mystery episodes!
That line about Mindy "hitting the bottle pretty hard" is a hilarious meta joke about the fate of guest-star-voiced one-off characters (and one of the few funny jokes in Another Simpsons Clip Show).
The writers knew that The Last Temptation of Homer's conclusion doesn't explain why Mindy doesn't continue to appear as Homer's co-worker in any later episodes, but they couldn't help it. Ending the episode with that surprise reveal about Marge in the hotel room made it impossible to write Mindy out of the show within the same episode, but they couldn't really do it afterwards either because Michelle Pfeiffer never reprised her role. When they couldn't give any satisfying explanation to the character's disappearance at the time, they did the next best thing by making a meta joke about the lack of such explanation later in the clipshow.
The claim that Mindy would have turned into an alcoholic and lost her job comes completely out of nowhere, but it's especially the quick and casual way Homer mentions it that makes it feel like an intentionally unsatisfying deus ex machina explanation to her absence. It's actually kind of similar to "Poochie died on the way back to his home planet". I assume that this joke was intended to comment not just Mindy's character but also others like Herb Powell, Laura Powers, Allison Taylor etc. who had to disappear without getting written out in a satisfying way.
I always thought Mindy would be a better match and felt sad that Homer didn’t find her sooner. Sorry Marge 😕
Interesting take on this, is that even though she has many things in common with Homer doesn't necessarily make her the better match.
there's no way he did. He loves Marge more than anything
people who endorse this theory are trying to reduce the guilt of their infidelities.
"even Homer would cheat, so it's ok for if I do it too"
Nobody cheats on their wife by fantasizing about said wife.
Fun theory! Especially with the daydream segments that keep coming up. But I have to agree with you here. It doesn't fit the character.
I think its written that homer told mindy to get lost then the next day he invited marge to bang in that hotel away from the kids...the writers never intended for him to cheat...its literally called last temptation
I’m just happy someone is talking about this episode, it’s my favourite episode of the Simpsons.
Fact! Marge and Mindy both have the letter M, at the beginning of their names. As well as having 5 letters in their names, Homer has a thing for 5 letter named woman, with M at the start of their names.
I got a mystery for ya! How did Lisa come up with Bumblebee Man being Homer’s killer in The Great Louse Detective?
Mindy does appear in that Pin Pals episode as part of the 'Home Wreckers' bowling team.... not sure if that proves anything....
None of those people are people that Homer or Marge actually slept with, just ones that caused tension in the marriage for at least one of them.
Jacques tempted Marge and made Homer feel insecure, Princess Kashmir caused Marge to be upset with him, and Lurleen tried to seduce Homer and made Marge insecure. Mindy was on a team with them, which tells me he didn't sleep with her either
A more interesting, yet closely related, question for this episode would be: *Was the stuff he ate from that packet he found in the parking lot really just "powdered gravy" ?!* ;-)
I also hate that "hit the bottle" line. It's so mean-spirited, it feels like something we'd see from this show in like season 18, not a classic season.
Also, remember when Homer lets his daughter down by having a cell phone tower installed in her bedroom, and then he never apologizes to her about it but instead she apologizes to him for getting upset about it? Good times.
The fact that we see Mindy at the power plant in later episodes could be construed as Homer lying about Mindy's whereabouts in the alcoholism comment, since he wouldn't want Marge suspecting anything.
I love how Jims adresses points in these videos that probably were on the back of the minds of the fans for decades or things that probably didn't come out even after rewatching the episodes over and over. That's my favourite aspect about Simpson Mysteries
I've always think that Marge is more likely to cheat on Homer than the contrary. I don't blame her. Sexual impulse is something quite real and it's hard to have a grasp on it.
And unfortunatly, Marge is frustated a lot and on a lot of things, she had no friends, very few hobbies, a child like yet loving husband and three troublesome kids.
We see her get adicted to things quite quickly to cop with that frustation ( gambling, online vidéo game, alcool, violence...) and, like the Lovejoys or the Flanders, she got that puritan vibs going on, I don't think it's helping.
And the fact that she never talk about Jacques when Homer talk about Mindy is interesting.
Homer admit his temptation, he isn't proud about it but he acknowledge it.
Marge either don't assume or had more things to hide.
We see her regularly had fantasy about Flanders.
Final nail in the coffin, on that episode where Homer get diagnosed with narcolepsy, he refers to sleeping with an other woman as :" the only drunken mistake, I will never do" ( something like that).
Sorry for my bad english, like father Bouvier, I'm french.
I love your channel :)
Marge definitely comes across as more pent up.
Simpson Mysteries is my favorite show from you. Thank you for making a new episode of it. 💜
Hooray! A new RealJims video! Hooray!! It's Simpsons Mysteries!
I first found your channel like last week and have been binge watching like all of your videos, but the simpsons mysteries have been by far my favourite and i'd been hoping you'd upload a new one soon. super cool!!!
This is THE The Simpsons episode to me. This channel inspired me to do an essay on this episode a while back.
The Simpsons have always said 'Cartoons don't have to make sense.'
I feel similar about the theory as you do as well, but glad you made this video to explore it anyways. Well done and an intresting tought.
Never know this was a thing as I always thought it was obviously no.
I feel weird about this. But if that really was the second night they slept there, then Homer and Mindy being so sure that if they slept together, they would end up having sex, has a completely different meaning.
Mindy was too perfect for this world.
It’s not even the same dress, different neckline, and Marge’s has a bow while Mindy’s doesn’t, Marge’s has slits up the sides, Mindy’s doesn’t
Also Marge’s is clearly Lingerie, while Mindy’s is a night dress
*Night Out Dress
I think thats taking it a bit too literally. I think the choice of colour is more important.
I love the writing on all of these videos. RealJims really knows how to look into something and wrap it up with a bow.
Awesome new video thanks man. Can't wait for the next mystery!
I'm gladly surprised to hear toonarific tariq shoutout, his content do deserve to be seen by more people
I don't like this theory either. It's funny, I remember watching this episode as a kid and being a little unsettled by it whenever it was on. As a result of this, I rarely rewatch this episode honestly. I did, however, after watching this and it was pretty good.
I actually think what disconcerted me was that this episode might have been the first time I "encountered" (temptations of) infidelity. It's strange then that I wasn't reassured by the ending so maybe I subconsciously bought into this theory back then.
Nevertheless, I completely agree that this is a line Homer would never cross but it's still fun to weigh up the evidence. Great video as always!
I agree that this isn’t a line Homer would ever cross, he screws up a lot but ultimately he still needs to be likeable. I also can’t help but think “why would you cheat on your spouse and pretend it’s them, as opposed to just going home to your spouse?”
I think it’s more plausible that the writers just didn’t really think too much about timescales and stuff like that, they just wanted to give the viewer a surprise. As it says in the show, cartoons don’t have to be realistic
Toon-rific Tariq is one of the best video essayists focusing on cartoons.
Great video as always!
With all of Homer’s flaws, when faced with any decision regarding his family, he tries his best to make the right one. He’s stupid but rediculously loyal to his wife and kids.
Couldn't help but chuckle at "wrapped up in a nice little package" hahahaha
I’ve been waiting for this
I might have commented this before, but I honestly love the style of your videos. The editing and overall presentation of them are like old school pre-2012 CZcams. Reminds me of the videos I would stay up watching back when I was 13-15.
Also once again gotta give props for the use of OC Remix music.
So why did Homer imagine the room service guy there?
Homer also has exhibitionist tendencies ;)
Wow, Great! Interesting introspect-Thank you :)
We need a Mindy follow up for sure. Great video
Don't forget she's one "The Home Wreckers". Bowling team too.
this theory just isn't consistent with Homer's character. It undermines everything he's done before and since
Brilliant! Thank you Real Jims 👏😊
HA
I WAS WAITING FOR THIS
This is the sort of stuff that keeps me up at night
Mindy is wearing a dress. Marge is wearing negligee. They're pretty clearly different. Stop saying they're the same.
I always saw it as colour symbolism.
I just don't understand the notion that homer slept with mindy imagining marge or he slept with Marge while rejecting mindy.
Why couldnt he have slept with mindy, then slept with Marge on a future night because the idea was so wild he needed to recreate it with his wife? Thatd also justify mindy hitting the bottle and losing her job
Love you and Toonrific Tariq!!!!
"Murray....you are a elf...."
Homer does about anything terrible but he never cheats.. I don't believe he would have actually done it. This is a very interesting channel.. I've been binging it! New sub!
My theory is that Mindy was Barney the whole time and Homer is a confused bi-sexual.
I'm sorry I was not able to make you laugh today. I wish you well.
Chaos Omega that’s dumb because Barney is unemployed and there is a theory that Barney is future Nelson
@@srstriker6420 Aw, shucks. I'll try harder next time, guys... I swear!
I think Barney doesn’t exist in the real world like in Fight Club.
*barsexual
whoa this is a good one, nice job
So happy to see you give a shootout to Tariq, we've come full circle!
Toonrafiq and therealjims cola would be cool. Clash of styles that could be interesting.