Let's Talk About How We Talk About Movies

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    Here I break down the pattern in which we watch event films, and how it affects both how we consume entertainment and how our entertainment is made.
    Music:
    Blue Wednesday: Apple Pies & Butterflies - / apple-pies-butterflies
    Blue Wednesday: Tick Tock - / tick-tock
    The rest of the music is taken from the respective scores of Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 and Spider-Man: Homecoming.
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  • @TheSchaef47
    @TheSchaef47 Před 6 lety +207

    I give this essay a score of 92 and rank it fourth on my list of video essays about film.

  • @nathans5347
    @nathans5347 Před 6 lety +64

    "What do these films mean to you?" - A damn fine question. This is a profound and deeply personal way of discussing movies. I love it. Great video.

  • @gabe5525
    @gabe5525 Před 6 lety +46

    Is the film still creepy when you know all the scares? Is the film still funny when you know all the jokes? Is the film still thrilling when you know all the stunts? These questions determine a film's quality for me.

  • @AlexLove631
    @AlexLove631 Před 6 lety +99

    Yes dude! The discussion has turned into ranking and talking about where it holds up compared to other movies and criticizing others for having a different opinion, rather than how the film made you feel. I also share your same love for stories.
    Spider-Man Homecoming does mean something to me, but I think it's great that it doesn't mean as much to you. THAT is one of the best things about film: stories that resonate and cause friendly debate with different perspectives.
    What a great video! Good job my dude.

    • @laurenbennett7674
      @laurenbennett7674 Před 6 lety +2

      Alex Love I’m curious, what does it mean to you? I really enjoyed it but I realized after watching this video I have almost no emotional attachment to it- at least not the way I’m attached to the first 2 Spider-Man movies.

    • @LiliBeth771
      @LiliBeth771 Před 6 lety +2

      Yes. That's exactly what happened. They totally didn't try to spark a discussion or anything. Also the irony is strong coming from someone who yells at people who don't like the films that you do as much as you do.

    • @gabe5525
      @gabe5525 Před 6 lety

      I feel the same way. Someone may love a movie that you don"t love and vice versa. Like he said, it's all about how the movie matters to you.

    • @alexkoutoukas2266
      @alexkoutoukas2266 Před 6 lety

      I've been a Spider-Man fan since I remember myself, and even though I grew up with the original trilogy, I was never quite pleased with the Raimi movies. Maguire's Spider-man was never very good to me, even since I was a kid. I felt like many things were missing. Things that I've finally found in Tom Holland's Spider-Man. To this day, I find Spider-Man 1 just "ok", Spider-Man 2 awesome and... well, let's not talk about Spider-Man 3. They do mean something to me, but Homecoming means so much more.
      Homecoming is the movie with the best suited actor for the role (both in terms of acting, age and appearance), it's the movie that's most faithfull to the character (I'm talking about Spider-Man and not the secondary characters who were unfortunately changed a lot).
      It is Spider-Man's first movie in the MCU, something that not only I've been hoping and waiting for years, but something that I didn't even thought it was really gonna happen.
      It has the MCU's best villain, the Vulture. Michael Keaton is amazing, and it's the first time that I've felt actually scared from a villain in a superhero movie. And the twist with Liz was something that made all the people at the cinema 'gasp' (and that happened all three times that I watched the movie at the cinema).
      And it has one of the most iconic scene from the comic books, where Spidey manages to get free from the rubble (which was the most emotional part of the movie for me, and Tom's acting was superb).
      Yes, Spider-Man 2 might be a better film overall, but Homecoming is definitely the best "Spider-Man film", at least for now. I hope its sequel will be even better.

  • @houston-coley
    @houston-coley Před 6 lety +235

    I can't tell you how much I enjoyed this video, man. Just tweeted it out so more people could see it. We should totally collaborate sometime! I think we've got similar perspectives on a lot of film culture.

  • @jaffawaffa22
    @jaffawaffa22 Před 6 lety +24

    The reason Assassin's Creed 2 is my favourite game of all time is because of how the story made me feel. You really followed Ezio from a young man to a wise age, felt his loss and learned from his mistakes with him. And it has stuck with me ever since.

    • @telltellyn
      @telltellyn Před 6 lety +4

      Also the music was amazing. It isn't a coincidence so many classic games have classic scores.

  • @lrose1310
    @lrose1310 Před 6 lety +22

    I don't know why everyone seems to think marvel only makes comedies now. Like yea GotG2, Spiderman and Thor 3 all were comedies, but that's the style they chose for those 3 films. I don't remember laughing my butt off at Civil War or Doctor Strange and it sure doesn't seem like Black Panther is going to be a huge riot either.

  • @PokyGem
    @PokyGem Před 6 lety +27

    Movies can really change your life. In both small & big ways. For example, films like "A Monster Calls" or "Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol.2" really helped me with grief & family problems N stuff like that. Awesome experiences and stories you can really relate to.

  • @Johnny-ux7yi
    @Johnny-ux7yi Před 6 lety +13

    Couldn't agree more with your critique on Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol 2. It outright blows my mind that this movie isn't getting all the credit for where it's due. Schmoesknow and Jeremy Jahns disliked it and the majority of critics thought it was inferior to it's predecessor which is quite surprising. For me, GOTG Vol 2 was everything i wanted it to be. It was a sequel that was exactly how it should have been. A sequel that doesn't follow the typical ''bigger and better'' route. It was a sequel that expanded the world, had a self-contained story and presented the characters as flawed human beings and the conflict between the hero and villain was compelling cause it was a personal one, not some hero fighting a faceless CGI monstrosity. All those things above were the main reasons why great superhero sequels like X2, Spider-Man 2 ,The Dark Knight and Captain America The Winter Soldier are so great. And for that regard, i loved GOTG Vol 2 (yes it wasn't perfect but really no movie is).

  • @AstroLizard
    @AstroLizard Před 6 lety +14

    This is something I feel a lot of people forget (almost all), even I do sometimes as we surround ourselves with scores and quick highlights instead of the essence, meaning, and purpose of the films we watch. You nailed my thoughts perfectly in this video and I thank you for helping me understand the concept a little more as well as reminding me why I love this art form.

  • @BreakingBanter
    @BreakingBanter Před 6 lety +29

    What terrifies us too is that reviews now focus on elements as "cool" or "awesome" without evaluating how or why they worked. That isn't a review, it's a reaction disguised as a review. These "critics" that talk about an entire movie in under 5 minutes are just bullshit. Don't get us wrong, we enjoy a lot of those videos, but they really offer no intelligent conversation or insight.

    • @luanagullotta6218
      @luanagullotta6218 Před 6 lety +6

      Jeremy Jahns is a big offender of this, I feel. I like him, but his reviews have no substance.

    • @w-james9277
      @w-james9277 Před 6 lety

      Jeremy Jahns in a nutshell.

    • @whatshisname3304
      @whatshisname3304 Před 5 lety +1

      the problem is the more you think about the film evaporates into its separate components, then you are left with a choice between adding them up like a shopping list of pros an cons or looking for a thematic singularity which in most cases has to be contrived and summarised into the simplistic and the asinine. so the simpleton is equal to the most sophisticated reviewer.

  • @geek9830
    @geek9830 Před 6 lety +11

    You hit the nail on the head for me on why I prefer Sam Raimi's Spider-Man over the Marvel Cinematic Spider-Man. Not that I hate the latter, but I don't connect with it the same way. It feels more like a harmless kids' movie.

  • @derricksmoove989
    @derricksmoove989 Před 6 lety +6

    Finally someone talks about spiderman homecoming without fanboying over holland. Although the movie was fun there was literally no depth to it and it's evident wheb you give it a 2nd watch through. With spiderman 2 I can literally watch the movie every single day and still find another layer. It's just a masterpiece. I can't even watch homecoming without picking up my phone and getting bored

  • @nkanyisoinnocentkhwane3752

    *God I felt so alone until now, excluding my family whenever I've heard a review of Guardians 2 people just think it's good when I think it's Great* it really touched me: for me it is a rich tapestry of emotions & I think it's brilliant how James Gunn made the whole film about that song and how Peter & Ego interpret it differently.

  • @PS4everROCKS
    @PS4everROCKS Před 6 lety +22

    Wonderful !! For me I hold Spider-Man: Homecoming closer to my heart than GOTG 2 because of how fully realized Peter’s arc is, how unique yet simple his journey is, the underrated score from Giacchino that was both quirky and mischievous. As in the moment as it was, I found myself rewatching it multiple times. And you can never beat a live audience reaction when the twist comes around, there are fleeting gasps as the music fades and tension just absolutely builds

    • @AJ_Jingco
      @AJ_Jingco Před 6 lety +2

      I like Spider-Man: Homecoming because of it's high school aspect and if Peter's secret will get blown out!

    • @timy9197
      @timy9197 Před 6 lety +2

      Fully realized arc? I thought he was just a kid who wanted a job. He seemed to be pretty static overall. The movie never really landed on what he needed to change in order to grow. He needs to learn to live without the suit and as a reward he gets the suit back. He needs to be a "friendly neighborhood spiderman" yet his success of defeating the vulture validates his ambition. No real consistency. His motivation isn't about responsibility, it's about getting glory for his actions. Not very inspiring.

    • @danjalwaziri1657
      @danjalwaziri1657 Před 6 lety

      Well, that is the lesson he learns at the end. Spidey is overly eager for glory, being a hero and becoming an avenger. Only at the end does he realize that he is in over his head, that he is still a kid that needs time to grow. Thus him declining to join the "big leagues" of the avengers (at least for the time being) at the end.That was his arc to me.

  • @aliquidcow
    @aliquidcow Před 6 lety +5

    I definitely feel like the big problem with Blade Runner 2049 was that people judged it in the way we've become accustomed to judging blockbuster and franchise movies. Like the original, it's a film that demands repeat viewing, that doesn't give simple answers, and yet I feel like people took it far too much at face value.
    Also, if there is one term I would happily never heard again, it's 'over-rated'. It basically seems to mean 'something other people liked but I don't, so they must be wrong'.

    • @gguy3600
      @gguy3600 Před 4 lety

      I agree completely. To me that film was an absolute masterpiece.

  • @mikaylaeager7942
    @mikaylaeager7942 Před 6 lety +4

    You sir have preforming a literal miracle.
    Everyone in the comments that disagrees with your personal opinion on Homecoming/GotGv2 are doing so by simply saying what those movies mean to them. There is no need for attacks or antagonism because different movies mean different things to different people. You may have just solved the internet!
    Personally, I loved GotGv2, Homecoming, and Ragnarok. But the movie that meant the most to me was Wonder Woman. The first three made me laugh and cheer and pump my fist in the air, but Wonder Woman made me cry.

  • @RubenTricky
    @RubenTricky Před 6 lety +9

    This is exaclty why i won't ''rate'' a movie right after seeing a movie.

  • @axeltrujillo5693
    @axeltrujillo5693 Před 6 lety +2

    Totally agree, the Guardians Vol 2 is so good because it makes its characters real

  • @Miatpi
    @Miatpi Před 6 lety +2

    The reason Civil War is my favourite Marvel movies. It really got my emotions and thoughts going.

  • @jeromixx
    @jeromixx Před 6 lety +1

    To me, film is discussion. We all give a different point of view because that's what good stories do, they give us the power to add what we want to see. Excellent video.

  • @ThreesixnineGF
    @ThreesixnineGF Před 6 lety +4

    I needed this! Thank you.

  • @NolanDean
    @NolanDean Před 6 lety

    You summed this up better than I ever could. Great job, man.

  • @michaelwhittaker8346
    @michaelwhittaker8346 Před 6 lety +1

    This video really connected to me. Sometimes I focus too much on what other people think about films and not did I like them.
    A film can be “bad” like the prequels. But I grew up watching them and as a kid they were the same to me as the original trilogy

  • @Noahshz
    @Noahshz Před 6 lety

    Absolutely love these videos. Keep it up man

  • @maberti
    @maberti Před 6 lety

    I cannot tell you how much I enjoyed this video, thank you!

  • @BreakingBanter
    @BreakingBanter Před 6 lety +16

    This is the most important film related video posted in 2017. We cannot thank you enough for sharing this with your audience.

  • @Jjrmtv
    @Jjrmtv Před 6 lety

    what we want is connection with the characters, emotion for the triumphs and tragedies, a way we can bond with our on heroic journey, symbolized what we see on film. deep down, we want to cry and shout for joy. the catharsis we experience is a divine one

  • @topoli2007
    @topoli2007 Před 6 lety

    Omg this video is SO inspiring I swear!!!! I’m gonna share this, more people need to see this👏🏼👏🏼!!!

  • @kishawnlewis4635
    @kishawnlewis4635 Před 6 lety

    This was the most amazing video I've probable seen all year, and in a way this video affects me even deeper than most movies I've seen all year.

  • @tessereq
    @tessereq Před 6 lety +75

    I cannot stress how much I love this video, Thor is very guilty of this "moments" type of filmmaking. I LOVE Taika Waititi's style, the improv, the awkward humor, but Ragnarok never really had a sense of urgency and consequence because of this, therefore, when it comes to the story, it feels really generic.
    I don't quite feel the same as you for GotG2 tho, although I love Yondu's arc, every other conflict in the story feels kinda forced, especially Gamora and Nebula.
    It's really a shame because Marvel is why I start reviewing movies on CZcams, but as they bring in more directors who make fantastic stylistic choices, the storytelling becomes ironically more generic.

    • @rjkzbkfy9665
      @rjkzbkfy9665 Před 6 lety

      超粒方 so go estch DC trasj if you don't like marvel. Everyone love ragnarok.

    • @rjkzbkfy9665
      @rjkzbkfy9665 Před 6 lety

      Gabriel Borges I don't wanna listen to a pathetic MCU hater and loser like you.

    • @turbonerdo6838
      @turbonerdo6838 Před 6 lety +3

      Dude, he wasn’t an MCU hater. He’s clearly gave reasoning and evidence to his analysis. Do you realise in calling him a dc trash for no reason you’re being just as bad as that "trash". Can you not see the hypocrisy in your statements. You dont have to agree (I don’t), but please shut up.

    • @turbonerdo6838
      @turbonerdo6838 Před 6 lety +3

      I disagree because of the final act. The first two acts are definitely guilty of this, but when we get back to asgard Whitney gets real. There’s surprises, character growth, and consequences. Of course it’s hard to talk about ragnarok without spoilers, but I think that sakar is guilty of moment filmmaking, yet the final act redeems the film from that mistake.

    • @TheOminousFlareShow
      @TheOminousFlareShow Před 3 lety

      @@rjkzbkfy9665 And this idiot is why movie criticism fails on CZcams.

  • @m.i.a.826
    @m.i.a.826 Před 6 lety

    Great vid man. Shared it with my friends too.

  • @nenrit-elijahgreen3571
    @nenrit-elijahgreen3571 Před 6 lety +9

    A + analysis. I really just wish we could just watch movies and enjoy them. it's the difference between reading a religious text and Reading A Normal book. the culture around the religious text wants us to feel this intensity, this understanding to why everyone loves it, see creation in it. but a normal book doesn't have that pressure. your experience is individual and it's not measured up to how other people experience it. I wish we can go back to movies being like that.

    • @aldenraymond771
      @aldenraymond771 Před 6 lety

      Well, I'd say it depends on the "normal book." There are certainly some books out there that are beloved by critics/audiences/fans, etc. that don't connect with me at all, some books (and movies and comics and TV shows and video games and music) that it kind of feels like "If you don't adore this, then you're a horrible person."

    • @CFilmer
      @CFilmer Před 6 lety +1

      Exactly. It's even in the phrasing:
      "The Force Awakens is a bad movie and an insult to the first trilogie"
      instead of:
      "The Force Awakens really disappointed me. I hoped for something more original"
      The first one is okey for clickbait-titles I guess, but people speak like that in normal conversations.

    • @fanime1
      @fanime1 Před 6 lety

      But it's that way for normal books too. That's what literature classes are all about. If you want to just watch a movie and enjoy it, there's really nothing stopping you from doing so.

    • @timy9197
      @timy9197 Před 6 lety

      +C Filmer there is clearly a difference between the first statement and the second one. People argue that it's an insult to the second trilogy because it restarts all of the original characters progress. That has nothing to do with originality.

    • @Debicus
      @Debicus Před 4 lety

      @@CFilmer Except you can prove that TFA "insulted" the OT by highlighting how it undone the ending of ROTJ, and how the followong trilogy undermined all of the character's achievments. It's not clickbait if it's provable, which it is.

  • @shauryasingh9725
    @shauryasingh9725 Před 6 lety +2

    Civil War actually holds up very well and I still believe it deserves to be called one of the greatest adaptations ever made.
    I know it has become cool to hate on it in the hipster community but "The Airport Scene" wasn't the climactic battle. It was a visual treat! It was fan service at its finest! And nothing about it *didn't* make sense (probably read that twice, I'm not the best writer).
    That said, I find it really annoying that people don't talk about the real climactic battle at the end of the movie! It did so much right. I wouldn't even call it a fight. It was a moment of pure rage and emotion. Very well acted, shot and portrayed. The point of view of T'Challa was also done justice by making his character arc come full circle when he confronts Zemo. The dialogue was very well written and criminally overlooked by the critical community. The end of the movie was darker and heavier than most people "claim" DC movies to be.
    This is just my two cents and if you read this, I'd like to know what your views on this issue are.
    P.S. pardon my writing. I'm working on it.

  • @sofiafortuna2011
    @sofiafortuna2011 Před 6 lety

    Agree. You may enjoy a movie in the moment but the ones that stick with you, and you end up coming back to , are the ones that in some form or another spoke to you and made you feel something.
    I always enjoy your videos, keep on keeping on dude.

  • @LeschekOfLechia
    @LeschekOfLechia Před 6 lety

    THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO!

  • @sumit2658
    @sumit2658 Před 6 lety

    Awesome message! I wanna start a Video-Essay-Channel soon, so this video came just the right time! I will think over my concept again. Thank you!

  • @KylerRamos
    @KylerRamos Před 6 lety

    You hit the nail on the head with this one. I loved homecoming but it didn’t have the same emotional impact spidey 2 does to me on multiple viewings. When peter is down on his luck Sam Raimi makes you really FEEL it. The train scene isn’t a great scene because it looks cool, but more so because it was the culmination of all of peters emotions. He finally chooses what he thinks best after not being spider man and that with the heroic music the second spidey shows up after being absent for nearly an hour, you really FEEL the impact of the moment.

  • @heinblod3485
    @heinblod3485 Před 6 lety

    This is great, thank you!

  • @the180crew
    @the180crew Před 5 lety +1

    Well I can tell you that to me The Last Jedi is an amazingly crafted film that treats its legacy characters with respect and it’s newly introduced characters are given interesting new interactions and character arcs. I’ll probably get some hate for this but in all honesty I don’t care. I loved The Last Jedi, Luke’s fall and redemption was beautifully handled thanks to Rian Johnson with some great homages to the original trilogy, such as Luke looking out over the twin sons before he dies. It’s such a beautiful full circle that when I watched it in the cinema for he first time I was almost brought to tears.

  • @UltraTien
    @UltraTien Před 6 lety +1

    So relevant for the Last Jedi, this video is extremely important and more people need to see it.

    • @FilmsStuff
      @FilmsStuff  Před 6 lety +1

      yup, though the sad thing is how inevitable this was.

  • @illwilld
    @illwilld Před 6 lety

    Amazing video. Keep bringing great honest content :)

  • @CzerodyStudios
    @CzerodyStudios Před 6 lety

    love your take on this. :)

  • @cptinjak
    @cptinjak Před 6 lety

    Thank you for making this video. I agree entirely.

  • @SirRegio
    @SirRegio Před 6 lety

    Fantastic video, man

  • @Balthazar2242
    @Balthazar2242 Před 6 lety

    Love the video, I think this is really important, especially for me because I sometimes obsess over thinking about the quality of films and don't always have this frame of mind. I'll try thinking of it this way next time around.

  • @calebvoyles4579
    @calebvoyles4579 Před 6 lety

    Fantastic video!

  • @gabe5499
    @gabe5499 Před 6 lety +7

    Spiderman homecoming felt empty to me and I'm a big spider man fan. I loved spider man 1 and 2 though with Tobey

  • @jonathansalvador5037
    @jonathansalvador5037 Před 6 lety

    So glad you brought up Folding Ideas. Massively underrated channel.

  • @maybepranav
    @maybepranav Před 5 lety +1

    This video is so good. You're a wise man

  • @ReverendDudeKyle
    @ReverendDudeKyle Před 6 lety

    YES THIS IS FANTASTIC I LOVE THIS

  • @chrisw3147
    @chrisw3147 Před 6 lety

    Your videos are so good!

  • @BTwiseman
    @BTwiseman Před 6 lety

    Perfectly said. Great job

  • @terrancelayhew5931
    @terrancelayhew5931 Před 6 lety

    Louis L’Amour wrote that, “A book is less important for what it says than for what it makes you think.”
    The same applies to movies, and this video does a good job of explaining that.

  • @renegonzalez6058
    @renegonzalez6058 Před 6 lety

    interesting perspective, made me realise there was a little voice in the back of my head that hadn't been focused on and it very much agreed with this argument. well thought out points and greatly expressed

  • @ReaperXC
    @ReaperXC Před 6 lety

    Very well said. You have articulated what I’ve been thinking and feeling since Dr Strange.
    Thank you kind sir!

  • @thunderwyvern17
    @thunderwyvern17 Před 6 lety +1

    You put it right into words!! One of my favourite Marvel films, after avoiding it for a long time because of the hate surrounding it, is iron man 3. I think it has a much bigger impact on me than, say, ragnarok (which I absolutely adore, btw), because it resonates with me on a much deeper level. I suffer from depression, anxiety and ptsd, so you can draw your conclusions there.

  • @GibbySoapBox
    @GibbySoapBox Před 6 lety

    I feel this video just reopened the old part of me that loved films. Especially these types of films cause I've found myself ranking and comparing instead of what they mean to me. I still have films from my younger years that have made massive impacts to me.

  • @QazwerDave
    @QazwerDave Před 6 lety +2

    Nice mention of Folding Ideas !!

  • @IrondragonGamingYouTubeChannel

    I think you bring up some very interesting ideas. All too often we judge movies based on acting special effects music story how well the characters are developed but I think the point that you hit on " what does this movie Mean to Me" is a very interesting way of judging a movie

  • @holbvgbbbbkfz
    @holbvgbbbbkfz Před rokem

    This video was made years before TikTok and shorts yet it feels so relevant

  • @pzhuwang
    @pzhuwang Před 6 lety

    Perfect video man!!! I 1000% agree with you!!!

    • @pzhuwang
      @pzhuwang Před 6 lety

      I think, as a film critic, I think we should see a movie more than once before making a judgement!

  • @highwind1991
    @highwind1991 Před 6 lety

    First viewings are important but only the beginning of a conversation. This is why I always like to watch films at least twice because if they don't hold up over time, then they didn't mean much to me to begin with

  • @whoboy11
    @whoboy11 Před 6 lety +1

    As someone who enjoys writing scripts and creating storied, I understand where you’re coming from. I too, while a Marvel fan, get annoyed at how people will highly rank them for arbitrary reasons. For example, even though this is television, I love Jessica Jones because of the characters and how the story naturally flows, same with movies like Whiplash, Imitation Game and Theory of Everything. The visual medium is an amazing opportunity for people to express their views or tell a story that they’re passionate about and, when Marvel films that (recently for me have been alright) get high scores from critics and fans it perplexes me. I’m not saying Marvel are bad but I find them to be repetitious and, as a film fan and Marvel fan, I’m looking for something new.

  • @TrenchantEdges
    @TrenchantEdges Před 6 lety

    Very nicely said.

  • @RUMARUMSKI
    @RUMARUMSKI Před 6 lety

    Your comment on BR 2049 was spot on. Didn't really fall in live with it until about a day or two after I saw it

  • @Foxarocious
    @Foxarocious Před 6 lety

    Great deconstruction!! This makes me think about how disposable content is becoming even in film.

  • @RainSabin
    @RainSabin Před 6 lety

    Wow. Fabulous video, man. This articulated something I’ve been feeling for a while now.
    It was almost hard to watch Spider Man: Homecoming because I couldn’t help seeing all the times that they sacrificed what could’ve been a powerful statement about their characters for the sake of the upbeat feeling of the film. I feel like I’m going around on a merry-go-round of Marvel hype, and I’m not sure I enjoy it. The way the ball never drops in their movies makes them seem feel oddly incomplete.

  • @davidalbee5039
    @davidalbee5039 Před 6 lety

    Same, i love this so much

  • @milesbosworthmusic
    @milesbosworthmusic Před 6 lety

    I really like your take on the concept of how to approach film criticism. I don't agree with your take on Spider- man homecoming entirely, but I definitely see where you're coming from with it. There's something really exciting happening in the Marvel Cinematic Universe artistically that I have found a very few people talking about. This video has inspired me to maybe start doing some videos of my own and bring this element to light. Thanks for the great video!

  • @misterkelly224
    @misterkelly224 Před 6 lety

    WELL MET SIR!
    I really have forgotten that these big films can make you feel things. I had the chance to go see a movie I would *never* go see on my own, Goodbye Christopher Robin, and the father-son bond brought me to sobbing tears in the the theatre. I felt a twinge of that in GotG2 at the end, but no, this movie was actually about that bond, and it just WRECKED me.
    There's only one time I can think of when a superhero film has brought me to tears. It was a cold ("Imagine I've never heard of Superman") second viewing of Man of Steel, and it was the moment underneath the world engine's blue beam when he just pushes through. The film, which is just a mess plot-wise and even thematically was about one thing: how much it sucks to be this guy, and it draws on the 'feeling' of Superman in the way it presents him in the story, without any actual thing about Superman's history aside from some names, and... you believe it. It's still horribly indulgent in Snyderisms, but man... I cried. I also blame that movie for the failings of the DCEU and in the moment, hated every single bit of it with a passion. Gave me a headache actually.
    So, I say all that to say, good work. I'm inspired to tell better stories now, stories that mean something, that are about something.

  • @manuelpinedo8572
    @manuelpinedo8572 Před 6 lety

    This video essay was incredible. What films mean to you is what matters the most. When I saw ragnarok i had tons of fun and laughed for almost the entire run time. And this is what the movie means to me: It holds up as one of the marvel movies to me because the change of tone in the film made me connect more with thor when the dramatic moments hit and it reached a level of awesomeness and emotion that made the experience great (something that marvel has achieved in only some of their many previous films). I should definitely see it again a few more times to fully grasp how good the movie is but those are my present thoughts on it. Great video!

  • @cam1058
    @cam1058 Před 6 lety +1

    Honestly, Its been a long time since a movie felt meaningful to me.

  • @dariusmorgan5343
    @dariusmorgan5343 Před 6 lety

    This video was DOOOOOPE!

  • @Balthazar2242
    @Balthazar2242 Před 4 lety +1

    I'd say The Force Awakens is an example of a film that leans more towards "in the moment" filmmaking, while The Last Jedi holds up more over time.

  • @hallwaywarrior5286
    @hallwaywarrior5286 Před 6 lety

    I love the part in this video where you talk about the humor in Spider-Man: Homecoming. None of the jokes stick with me. A movie with great humor will have jokes that stick. For example, i was just sitting around yesterday and I started thinking about the gag in the elevator from Spider-Man 2, a film I haven’t seen in years. I think about jokes from Ferris Beuller’s Day Off and Back to the Future all the time because they’ve left such an impact on me that I’ll never be able to get them out of my head.

  • @joelieastell244
    @joelieastell244 Před 4 lety

    I appreciate your point of view

  • @vivi2222
    @vivi2222 Před 6 lety

    You made me remember the first time I saw Captain America the winter soldier, I don't know if it was the fact that for that movie I went completely clueless about the characters and the story, but I gotta tell you it got me pretty involved in the MCU. The story, the internal struggles of Steve the espionage the development of black widow. It's one of my favorite movies and one I can watch over a over again.
    But also what you explain here is true, now we have major movie experiences almost each month of the whole year, it's always what's next, instead of thinking about what you just saw at the theatre, I don't know if it's because I am getting older and this kind of stories are not meant for me anymore... but I guess I miss the feeling the winter soldier gave me, I guess at least with the MCU that feeling won't happen to me again. Thanks for the video keep on doing that great job ;)

  • @oyvindknustad
    @oyvindknustad Před 6 lety

    Great video

  • @Dylan-nq6vi
    @Dylan-nq6vi Před 6 lety

    Love your shout out to Folding Ideas

  • @cervgiovanni
    @cervgiovanni Před 6 lety

    Once you presented the question, I fell in love with this video
    Once I said that to myself, I caught it and asked why
    You had a message, you have a result and a practical method.
    This will be THE video i will show to friends i care about whom I want to be at a knowledgeable film point... knowing they are the audience and how it affects the movie

  • @DavetheTurnip
    @DavetheTurnip Před 6 lety

    Wonderful video. It's made me really think about all the times I went to the cinema this year. Mostly for Marvel movies, and while it's easy to sort out my likes and dislikes after the movie is over, your comments make me think if I liked something, maybe I should really see it that second time to see if there's something more to the movie that affects me rather than just being in the moment.
    I will say that when I saw Blade Runner 2049, I felt I needed to take some time to digest it, and I still think about the film. I definitely want to see it again, but I feel I need to wait a while until I'm ready for it again.
    Keep up the great work. I'm definitely checking out more of your content :D

  • @joeman99983
    @joeman99983 Před 6 lety +2

    For me this may be a long comment no one will read. But Star Wars as a whole means a lot to me. So a lot of the time I actually get defensive with people about it. The reason Star Wars as a whole means a lot to me. Is because it stopped me from committing to Suicide. No film, or any film that I could think of really brought me into the universe that Star Wars did. It distracted me from taking that step into ending my life. And the story, characters and journey they all face. Showed that good can beat evil (The Dark Side) That a underdog like Rebels could best something bigger than them. Just like how the underdog (Me) beat Depression. So it really sticks out to me. I sadly don't feel that with any other movie. (Well maybe things with Superman in it.) But Star Wars changed my life. And it's story was important to me.

    • @Ian-oe9wp
      @Ian-oe9wp Před 6 lety +1

      your story really touches me in 2015 i had gone through the lowest point in my life and at somepoint i was thinking about suicide but then episode 7 was coming out and i had never seen any star wars films so i decided to watch the films and it changed my life and after i watched episode 7 i felt like i was a new person so star wars means alot to me too

  • @dumpsterjedi9323
    @dumpsterjedi9323 Před 6 lety

    YES! This is exactly the fear I have for the force awakens. I really expect them to do something outlandish and convoluted just for the sake of shocking the audience, but I don't want to be shocked, I want a good story that I'll enjoy after countless viewings.

  • @jimnicholls5215
    @jimnicholls5215 Před 6 lety

    This is the reason I'm planning on making a channel called Latent reviews where I don't release a review until around 3 months after my first view viewing so my thoughts are collected and more developed and I can talk about the value that holds up to me personally

  • @SpaceCase1701
    @SpaceCase1701 Před 6 lety

    This way of looking at films, TV shows and any other type of story really speaks to me. I love stories, always have. And I'm very able to forgive a lot of technical shortcomings of filmmaking if a story is able to resonate with me on some real level, or if I'm just having a damn good time watching.
    Obviously, critical analysis is always fun too, don't get me wrong. But if the story ends up meaning something to me, or it's something I can just watch again and again and love all the same despite the odd flaw or creaky plot thread or iffy acting or whatever, that's far more important to me than watching a film that's a technical masterpiece but didn't affect me on any real level. I can appreciate the high-quality filmmaking, but I'm not that likely to buy the DVD.

  • @jccummins8173
    @jccummins8173 Před 6 lety

    I agree so much with this especially the part about homecoming, it just felt kind of hollow after watching a few times

  • @hootsifer-darling
    @hootsifer-darling Před 6 lety

    Damn, I think you actually just changed how I think about movies. You can't hold it up to one single metric, because if all movies were the same, they'd all suck. Thanks, that's why I love this channel

  • @callmeej8399
    @callmeej8399 Před 4 lety

    I personally value character and logical consistency in any story, I also love clever world-building and dialogue.

  • @cameronfletcher5835
    @cameronfletcher5835 Před 6 lety +3

    Great video. I'm a huge fan of Raimis' 1&2 and while I liked Spider-Man Homecoming, I felt while watching and afterwards that in the crowded and perhaps oversaturated MCU, it might not stand the test of time the same way that Spider-Man could when he is the centre of his very own Film Universe. I'm really grateful that we are getting decent Spider-Man films once again and I like Hollands' portrayal of Peter but I fear that the peak of Movie Spider-Man has very possibly come and gone with Raimis' Spider-Man 2.

  • @VicenteTorresAliasVits

    Great video! The thing about the M.C.U. is that they created a pre-planned story meant to be told in several movies. Watching them is kinda like watching TV episodes. We can enjoy them a lot, but they might not mean a lot to us as stand-alone works, since the stories never have definitve endings and always do something to set up the future. I still give them positive grades when they deserve them (a couple even have even made it to my "best of the year" lists), but they might not hold up years after the final movie in the franchise is released.

  • @TheDudeguy666
    @TheDudeguy666 Před 6 lety +6

    I really wish they didn't show the Hammer-scene from Thor:Ragnarok in the trailer. The impact would be so much greater seeing for the first time in a theatre.

    • @shauryasingh9725
      @shauryasingh9725 Před 6 lety +3

      Actually, that wasn't nearly as impactful as something that happens seconds before it. It wasn't supposed to be that impactful at all. The hammer was merely a means to conduct his power, a relic, if you will. Spoiler beyond this point.
      Odin's death and his legacy is what really grabbed me. Him finally acknowledging *both* his children in his final moments. The state he was in was just hard to look at. Very well done.

  • @OkinaKurinoBoss
    @OkinaKurinoBoss Před 6 lety

    Thank you so much for this video. Since september I was thinking about how the reviews are just the First view of any thing, not a complex re-view (watch at least two times something). The Rick and Morty fanbase on CZcams flood me whenever an episode was release, and damm, it's was killing me. Now whatching your video was a very hopeful experience. If your video can influence some people to think about the way they talk about media, i think It would be awesome

  • @leonardomapache
    @leonardomapache Před 6 lety

    I think it is important to discuss the way we talk about movies in that people is extremely categorical. People use the narrative of their videos, the over reliance on blibliographic sources and technical terms, to metaphorically drop the mic. The video essay sphere in not inviting enough for people to debate about small disagrements. Video essays always categorize. Never propose.

  • @omarkayal5336
    @omarkayal5336 Před 6 lety

    Act two is where films go to die is a more apt symptom to describe this industry. Great video

  • @carlbiscocho
    @carlbiscocho Před 6 lety

    Thank you. :)

  • @derpish9115
    @derpish9115 Před 6 lety

    I won't say this video is a thumbs down or a thumbs up, I won't say if I subbed or unsubbed. I will say that seeing you had uploaded made me happy.

  • @mohammadrizkiramadhan5829

    Your last sentences hit me so hard 😢😢

  • @21minute
    @21minute Před 6 lety

    I couldn't agree more with you. You actually made me think about Spider-Man Homecoming. I actually enjoyed the film a LOT at first viewing and thought that it's a good film but I can't find any reason for me to re-watch it. Same thing can be said about the other Marvel films I watched. Usually, I watch a film multiple times in a span of months after its release when I somehow connected to it. Like it has this long lasting impression that makes me want to relive it. For some films, they just provide good vibes at first watch but won't have the same effect after the second watch.

  • @web-linez4436
    @web-linez4436 Před 6 lety +4

    Yeah I just finished watching homecoming on bluray and it does nothing for me I honestly rather watch Spider-Man 3 despite it having a messy story and it can feel overstuffed at times I still feel something when I watch it especially the ending. I can't say the same for homecoming.