Why Haaland (probably) won't be the greatest of all time
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Erling Haaland has already established himself as one of the very best players in the world with a goalscoring record that few other strikers could hope to come close to. Could he realistically become the greatest goalscorer of all time? JJ Bull has crunched the numbers and discovered that it might not be quite as simple as you think, even with Haaland's astonishing early record.
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JJ is clearly being given more freedom to show off his personality, and I absolutely love it!
thats not the real JJ. Thats an alien monster replacement.
I got the impression he was on shrooms in this video lol
i hope he's being compensated well by Tifo because this channel wouldn't be nearly as popular without his personality making sometimes bland topics interesting.
Clearly a lizard version of JJ, did you see the end!
He hasn’t been given it, he’s taken it
Awareness, constantly scanning the area, improvements in his creativity and focus.
Can’t wait to see what prime JJ can deliver 🐐
A lizard!
Two lizards!
Three lizards!
But who is the LIZARD KING?!
EVERYONE "PROBABLY" WON'T BE THE BEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME YOU SILLY CHILDREN
Words can’t describe how happy I am that JJ is slowly taking control over more and more videos
I can't listen to his speech, everything about him makes me hear white noise.
@@androidbluathe and the FM guy talking while having something in their mouths.
We really took Messi and Ronaldo era for granted, feeling extremely lucky to witness their prime
Something like that will never happen again in any sport. Having the 2 greatest players of all time playing at the same time, in their prime at the same time, playing in the same league on the 2 best teams in the world. That rivalry will never be replicated
@@ballsballsballs3617tennis had 3
@@ballsballsballs3617Crosby and Ovechkin is about the closest you can get. They aren't GOATs, but definitely top 10 in hockey history playing on rival teams at exactly the same time.
@@beneasler8868true, still i dont feel the same atmosphere as those El Classicos but i defo see What you mean.
@@beneasler8868 no where nesr lmao. The whole point is they r two of the greatest ever. Like top 5 players bare minimum if ur slightly delusional
Adding 'triangle boy' to the list of compliments I use to describe Haaland during football discussions with the boys.
I’d rather be a square peg 😭
Those triangles all had four sides tho...?
Cr7 and messi are octagonal 😂😂
Just a joke ,they shouldn't be in debate
People criticize Halaand for "scoring too many tap-ins," but to me that shows a incredible understanding of timing and positioning to score those easy goals, and understanding which will be seriously helpful when his monstrous physical attributes begin to decline
Exactly, its so dumb. Like his job is to score. Who cares if he gets those with more tap ins than he does screamers from outside the box.
Just like when immature ppl call ronaldo "penaldo". So he regularly dispatches his penalties and somehow thats a problem or sth to make fun of? Its literally his job to make those, just like its haalands to score, no matter how.
As a german, i sure as hell would love a "tap in merchant" right now who can guarantee us a goal or two on a very consistent basis.
@@diablejambe3460 the most impressive thing is that he scores "too many tap ins" in ANY team he plays for. Not only for man city, which has a lot of great playmakers, but also for the other teams he has played for and even for his national team. So like, yeah he scores mostly from tap ins (even though he's great from outside the box, like in this week's ucl game), but those goals count as much as any other
Before joining City - Haaland a mix of all great No9's
After joining City - Haaland not that great?🤔
@@pedrogrillo lol yeah, ppl act like hes incapable of scoring from outside the box. Or the whole "any half decent striker could score that many in that team". Right, which is why no one has done it. And like u said, he did it at salzburg and dortmund as well. Sure dortmund r one of the biggest and better teams in the bundesliga, but they rnt some world beater like city. And yes, a tap in counts the same as a goal from the 50 meters out, like who cares. Id much rather have a guy who give me 1-2 goals every game than a striker who scores from outside the box every 3-4 games.
It’s great that he scored those goals and it definitely helps his team. But when does he actually influence the game if he doesn’t score? When hsve city played and he’s been the guy who makes something out of nothing to win them the game. In all of cities most important games for example both finals they won last year haaland might aswell of not been on the pitch.
One of the biggest things Messi and Ronaldo had was their fitness. They missed so few games every year that they could score such tremendous amounts of goals. Two legends of the modern game.
There’s been many many great players, but very few have been as focused and disciplined as Messi and Ronaldo. They took perfect care of themselves which gave them a kind of consistency over a long time that previous greats like Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Maradona could never dream of
@@BGeezy4sheezy Maradona didnt exactly took care of his body - even then he was at a skill lvl no1 has ever reached again.
@@jkdure Messi surpassed Maradona
@@bna919 In trophies not in skills
@@jkdure In both. Messi is better with more longevity. Better goal scorer better creator only thing Maradona competes with Messi in is dribbling
Nah this guy keeps jinxing everyone and now haaland is gonna get reverse jinxed 💀💀💀
Thats why he put "(probably)" in the title
😭
Facts
Haaland can't even control a ball properly, even if he scores 100000 goals, he will never be the greatest.
My grand dad can control the balls better than Haaland. He's impotent too.
Jo's unending war against the skeleton in his garden and JJ's seeking wisdom from the talking frog living under a bridge near his house.. Tifo has risen from the realm of mortals.
...What?
One nice thing about Haaland is that he’s shown some glimpses of ability to be a more creative player, and obviously has an immense understanding of positioning, so it’s possible that later in his career he can find an extra gear of playmaking ability to add to his game. Haaland can still improve, as crazy as that is
Is it really crazy that a 22 year old has room for improvement? What professional footballer was the complete article at his age?
@@allpissedup229The reason it's crazy is that Haaland is already playing better than many world class players did in their primes
Ronaldo Nazario?
Haaland has poor first touch, heading, playmaking abilities compared to Benzema.
This is the football content I'm after.. helps break up Jon's painfully informative videos.
Bro!!! Like even Alex was fun to watch
Tifo needs more videos about pressing tactics😅
@@rubisemamman6575 Alex can write, is a fount of information, is funny, and has presence though lol Jon just regurgitates and I'd much rather Tom Worville and Mark Carey do that sort of thing oh well RIP that's what happens when you support a feeder club like Tifo i cri evertim
@@STANKYCHEEZEMAYNE Kinda lost the whole purpose of me watching Tifo in the first place, now all I hear is when you look at the underlying numbers
I love these JJ morning uploads, it gives me something fun to watch on the way to school
I love these JJ late night uploads, it gives me something fun to watch on the way to sleep
Defenders were better then as well.
JJ is truly a national treasure. Keep these videos coming!
JJ for the president of the FA
unfortunately that nation is scotland
EVERYONE "PROBABLY" WON'T BE THE BEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME. YOU PEOPLE ARE CLUELESS. TIFO IS FALLING OFF AND JJ TREATS THE VIEWERS LIKE THEY ARE ALL STUPID CHILDREN. TIFO NEEDS A STAFF REVAMP AND QUICKLY
He plays for Norway.. boom. That’s the answer! Doesn’t take a genius to understand that internationally he’ll never take his team to finals.
On current evidence, he won't even take his team to tournaments. Seriously, we are so bad we don't even qualify when we play rather well.
@@Wezzethwe can still qualify for euros through nations leauge
So he's in the same boat as Gareth Bale was (said with love and grief as an embattled Cymru fan)
@@nannaa125 sant men poenget er nok mer at Norge burde ikke være avhengige av å bli heldige gjennom
nations league + tror no way at det er mulig å komme til em/vm med Solbakken som landslagssjef.
Meaning that he will be fresher to score goals at club level every season
As a Manchester United fan i hope he satys fit and can avoid injuries through his career, always sucks to see great footballers careers cut short from injuries.
W man u fan
Taapland is not even worthy to clean the boots of R9.
Well then that means he will destroy us every derby thanks mate
@@Jay-rr6me
City will destroy us every derby for the next few years with or without Haaland anyways XD
When we get competitive again its gonna feel much better if we beat a great team with great players.
This type of presenter would do really well in a podcast format. Specifically a weekly show in which all the premier league games are recapped, along with another charismatic and witty presenter, and two serious analysts. I think that would be really great
I am in favor of this motion
Harry Kane is even more creative than shown here, possibly the most creative no 9 presently
I thought the same
Think JJ did him a bit dirty on the speed too, but it's a common trend 🤣 Every FIFA interview I've ever seen with him he always makes a comment about it - he's probably got a point, everyone looks slower when they're near Son. But yeah you see some of the defensive runs he made under Conte to get back for those goal line clearances... man's pretty quick
You have to remember Kane is English and JJ has *FREEDOOOOOM*
Yh I thought the same won most assists in pl season 2021 and I think he’s physical much more he strong just sometimes doesn’t show as he drop deep but his hold up play good he’s like 6ft 3 too not far from Haaland
I personally feel Kane the best 9 in the world the most complete only thing Haaland got on him is speed
I love this. It's a bit like Tifo meets Stath Lets Flats, but under the bonnet the analysis is really excellent and brilliantly communicated. Love it.
really enjoying the old school podcast vibes in terms of complete unbridled silliness on display here (also the info is great too obvs), keep it up guys!
It's silly to think that we will have in this era players as great as Messi and Ronaldo. Just the fact of having those two playing in the same era is already a miracle and something that every football fan should be grateful and lucky about it.
I love JJs energy here 😂
Is he coked up?? Lmaooo
there were some years in the 2010s when Cristiano would formed a square on that chart
"Its a lizard! Look at the lizard!" 😂
I missed JJ on the podcast, "triangle boy", "it's a lizard". This guy is a legend 😂
JJ is insane or on drugs or both and I love it. THIS is what I'm here at Tifo for 👏♥
JJ Bull is now playing a free role and I'm here for it! 😂
The best video JJ has ever done IMHO
I love this Guy's style of making videos. Keep it up bro
Think you've undersold Kane there, he'd also be a triangle boy but with 0 pace
He's really not even THAT slow tbh
Nah he’s not that slow he ran at a very decent speed for one of his goals against Galatasaray in the cl the other day.
Loved this, JJ becoming the TIFO IRl bossman. 👊
I was starting to watch fewer of these videos, but JJ is back at it, and it's wonderful!
Lovely touch having David Silva shirt up on the wall.
Loved watching this video and throughly engaging. Korea creativity from JJ!
People forget Messi bagged 91 goals in a year while being the best creator on the planet. He defied logic.
It's honestly a forced debate anyone with eyes knows he's the greatest ever.
@@Victor_386 certain ppl would rather stepovers that go nowhere and end up in a backpass lol
@@Victor_386 - Messi isn't the greatest ever. But he's certainly the greatest over the last 30 years.
@@wiseonwords never before has there been a player who's adept at playmaking, passing dribbling and is a proficient finisher as well. Not to mention his ability to dictate the tempo of a game and tactical awareness. Messi is an outlier and thus the greatest of all time.
@@madaxwayne yes that deluded fanbase. I'll never understand why he's compared to ronaldo .
I am absolutely HERE for JJ’s energy
It's ok if he's not become the GOAT, after all both Ronaldo and Messi are aliens, he's fine being a robot himself
I’ve never heard anyone calling Ronaldo an alien. It’s normally Messi while ronaldo is labeled as a machine.
@@noone6953 that's weird that you haven't heard it yet. Well then, you heard it here first!
@@noone6953he’s a machine in the context of comparing him to Messi, but compared to essentially every other footballer Ronaldo is pretty much an alien too. His numbers are Insane.
Eh, Messi certainly is buuut... mmm
He's a Norwegian tap-in merchant albeit a good one. No-one ever honestly ever thought he was going to be the GOAT.
to be honest, if he ends up being the all time top scorer of the game, he would per definition be considered as one of the goats. he is on a good way to become the topscorer of all time in the champions league for example.
More JJ Freedom!!! It’s what we love about Fifo. And more graphs based on no data. Love the data but some JJ chaos making his own graphs is so refreshing
JJ killing it lately 🔥
Let JJ do more of this- he’s charismatic
Giving JJ freedom to do his thing is the best thing they couldve done
More JJ all the time. Give him his own podcast and I’d pay monthly just for that.
I think what attribute is often underrated is that he has a very high understanding of the game. We love to praise Müller as the Raumdeuter but criticize Haaland for the same playstyle. He scores a lot because of his physical ability but mostly because he knows in which place he has to be to score.
Nobody knows if he will break the record or not but the fact is that he is striker like we have never seen before.
when cr7 scores tap-ins they say he's finished, when haaland scores tap-ins they say he's a prodigy with good awareness
Because there is difference between both cr7 can become halland but halland can't become like cr7 in his prime or young days not even in his dream
I coached Southampton in FM23 and Erling Haaland broke Ronaldo’s record and had 10 Ballon d’ors breaking Messi’s record of 7(at the time).
Real life is different than fm23
Fun fact managers actually use FM to scout players
@@ThePsuedoFM can’t actually predict the future lol, scouts use it for people’s ability and to find players, not for what’s going to happen in 10 years
@@ThePsuedoyeah they use the same database, not the actual game.
@@jdc6354yeh it's far more accurate. Maguire will win the world cup in 2028
Genuinely love when jj just let's loose in videos! 😂😂😂 no cut in recording just pick up the camera and follow me over here 😂
It’s very rare someone so big strong and fast makes it to 30 without major muscle injuries it appears haaland is very professional in terms of keeping his body fit but I don’t expect him to have this level of speed he has now when he is 27 even. Could still be very effective but not the alien he is now
one of my friend told me its unsustainable when you have tall player like haland building his game also around speed to sustain career as ronaldo or messi. the fact is his hamstrings are longer and while he plays longterm this speed physical machine style, he would start to be more injury prone. its theory but makes sense, lets see
The only player who had great characteristics in all 4 of those aspects was Brazils ronaldo phenomeno (R9). Creative, fast, had good physical and very very clinical. There's nobody like him. I like haaland he's a good forward. He's keeping his consistency very well when he was a good opportunity by man city.
This is incredible; good work
I'm here for JJ. Love the more creative approach again!
at this point just rename the channel to The Athletic becuase you're matching their stupid headlines
I love JJ's graphs!! Makes watching his videos much more fun ahaha
The fact that messi has the scoring ability of pele, the dribbling of maradona and the passing ability of any of the best passers ever, he’s too clear
Most complete player in history. No one will ever compare
Maradona is a step ahead though. Still, Messi tried his best.
@@kiosk2725 let's not be silly now aha
@@EvieWillNotDie you don't get to disrespect Messi like that. Even he admitted how hard it is to be Maradona. Yesterday's interview. Well, no one's gonna top that, eh?😄
Just physicality
JJ, for all that is good, never change😂
He is another Gerd Muller in the making. An absolute monster scoring goals, breaking all type of goal scoring records. But he is a pure 9 striker. He will probably be remember only as a great goal scorer.
As far as being a number 9, meaning scoring goals, there is no better player at it than Haaland today.
Challenge: Convince a British that football doesn't circulate around old school British average players
I don't expect him to be on Maradona, Pele, Messi, Ronaldo, Cristiano, or even Cruyff level of good, what I expect him to be is an effective goal scorer Just like Gerd Müller
Exactly, there’s a reason you don’t hear Gerd’s name mentioned with those others very often
The scary thing about haaland is that he gets better with every match. it is mind boggling
More of this please!
Please, where do i get those framed football shirt prints in the background??????????????????
New best video since the last JJ one
Man's bout to be a beast
these videos make me miss the tifo football show so much!
R9 was peak in all 4 of those boxes - best striker ever by a distance.
The lack of x and y axis labels make the shapes very arbitrary 😂 but I love you JJ
JJ every other video: ".. BUT when you look at the data..."
Also JJ: ".. this [graph] is based on no data"😂😂
Thanks for the 10 likes, crazy!
I believe last season we saw signs of Pep holding him back and frankly, Erling is good enough to have the entire team working for him and the captain’s armband. After the treble I would have liked to have seen him move to Real or AC Milan as I think those two could give him more smiles per mile. Of course, he can still thrive and enjoy himself and grow at Man City but superficially something just seems off there between him and Pep whenever Erling gets a lot of media attention from his goals/records.
I knew Tom had escaped that scatogram, tifo really should be more carefull...
JJ is cooking 🔥
Who he plays with and how he develops is hard to predict. Ronaldo developed his game a lot after 30. Will haaland develop leadership and taking the game to his hands we will need to wait and see, so far he is not required to do that as much
Yep. I don't know why people treat the game as discrete rather than continuous. No need to jump into conclusion after every matchday.
lol ronaldo fell off after 30s and cared about goals..
@@kukunase1686 don't be ignorant.
Leadership? What?
@@Chip_Fusehe's right?
You're failing to take two important things into consideration- Regardless of the number, goals "count more" depending on the league they are scored. In the future, people will not just count the total number of goals Ronaldo or Messi scored, but the number of goals they did at the top leagues (if that isn't the case, we could cut the bulls*it and just say Pele scored 2000 goals playing with his buddies in the streets of Três Corações). Also, you can't just consider the club goals, but the international goals. Haaland also plays against the low-ranked national teams in Europe, so he is likely to score lots of goals there, like Ronaldo does.
He also plays in a low ranked team himself though, which means he won't score anywhere near as many international goals as Ronaldo, Mbappe etc as he just won't get the opportunities.
Haaland scoring 35 goals half a season in my fm saves.. I had to subbed him off everytime he had a hattrick (that could be at minute 30 or less)..
I do appreciate the alternate universe where Haaland plays for Dundee.
These new humour filled videos are a joy to watch/listen to
Amazing video!
It's his movement more than anything. Most of his goal he's unchallenged
He's got a magical way of always being in the right place at the right time, showing that he knows how to read the game, which is a good sign for his mental game and longevity.
I think it's interesting that we're saying Haaland is clinical, being that his amount of chances missed for October was the same as Darwin Nunez (and it's not the first time this has happened).
Isn't it weird to judge a striker's creativity only on the base of dribbling and passing? What about creative runs? Imo that's more important for a striker.
they basically have had a series of internal meetings on how they can bring back the feel of the podcast to Tifo without bringing back the podcast itself.
A lovely Ian McIntosh cameo. Been a while seen we've seen him on the channel, genuinely missed him
Need this as a series
He is built like a Range Rover SVR, strong heavy and fast. Problem is that the brakes will be worn out before the first year service. I really cannot see him lasting beyond 30. We have seen this before in the great R9…
Amazing 🔥
I would love to see the same ‘Clinical, speed,etc.’ graph made for other footballers such as ronaldo, messi, etc
Thanks JJ, Thjj
Draws a shape with 4 nodes.
JJ: "TRIANGLE MAN"
where can i get frames like the one they got in the background
Gerd Muller is an answer. The man scored so many goals and only won 1 Ballon D'or. He won trophies galore including a World Cup.
I wasn't ready to be personally attacked on my lunch break when you said about getting slow at 30 :( too real JJ, too real
Love the Tifo / Football Manager crossover!
This is like old tifo irl. I like it.
whoever gave u the freedom of creativity, just made the best decision for this channel, kudos
No banter just the truth, we need JJ explaining in every video
I actually appreciate the chaotic camera work
gotta love JJ
For those just starting the video, not to spoil it, but that thing at the end really is very shocking, definitely worth the wait.
how you draw the dots is wrong. on the bottom left what's the difference if you put it on the far left instead of far low?
Tifo pls do about griezmann this season he is on fire
JJ is so whimsical i enjoy it
Love that the Producer of Football Manager looks like Ryan Giggs