I would highly recommend checking out the Shadow 2 Compact in person… I shot it and handled it last weekend, and was incredibly impressed. The trigger is far better than even my Cajunized P-01, and it shoot beautifully…
No, actually I do not. The tuned trigger on my CZ P-01 is better than the S2C, and I do not care for the silly optic arrangement they set up. There is no provision for a true rear sight and the plates that people use on them that incorporate a rear sight will not allow for zeroing the irons independently of the optic. Its a nice range toy for gun sport, but not for "street work".
I’ve never owned a perfect pistol yet it always seems to be something I would change no matter the platform. I own the shadow 2 compact the lighter frame is a huge benefit what CZ should have done on this gun is put a decent safety that’s usable, a better trigger profile that doesn’t pinch your finger on the reset and G-10 grips that aren’t slippery. Fortunately these parts can be changed out I’ve already replaced my trigger to a better straighter profile and the safety that’s extended now I’m waiting on LOK to make the G-10 grips that should be out soon. That will be the best CZ carry gun in my opinion. Update: LOK grips just released thin or palm swell Bogies for the compact shadow 2.
That's my dream gun ❤ I've never understood why manufacturers don't understand the grip is the only thing that matters for concealment. Ps you were talking about sending it out for grip checkering, you can actually get a 'checkering file' for about 30 bucks and do it yourself. I did it on my 1911, it's hard to get started but easy enough after that
The Shadow 2 Compact with aluminum frame is lighter and can be used in IDPA Competition which has a 43 oz weight maximum. Glad to see you still believe in shotgun stocks. Thanks for another informative CZcams upload !
The issue I have with the Shadow 2 compact is they do not make it available with the provision of back up sights. You either go irons or optics...not both. And both are needed on a street gun IMHO.
The original use of the term "guttersnipe" I believe, was coined by Paris Theodore in reference to his snag-proof CQB sighting system for his S&W mod. 39 conversion... called the "ASP".
Look up the cz 40p. In my understanding it was 'extra' slides left over from the Colt collaboration that resulted in the cz 40b essentially reworked and mated to the P-01 frame. They are hard to find now, but are a similar form factor to what you created.
Hey Gab Suarez, how are you doing today? You should check out these different DA/SA pistols - Grand Power k100 MK23 and k100 MK12 , Gramd Power P1 MK23 and P1 MK12, P1 Ultra, Grand Power makes some of the best handguns in the world the rotating barrel locking system mitigates the recoil making them really soft shooting handguns. Tanfoglio's combat line of pistol and stock2, EAA witness pistols, Sar USA K-12 Sport, SAR USA 2000, Bersa TPR-9
P-01 (non Omega) is pretty good all by itself. De-cocker and rail. Mine has Dawson night-sights and LOK palm-swell grips. If I were a 9mm kinda guy I'd carry it more. I don't imagine CZ is going to make a .45 ACP version, so I'll keep carrying the Sig...
CZ Shadow 2 Compact is probably the best gun ever made, some say it is the gun of decade, and once you see it in person, you will understand that perfect carry gun exist.
CZ Shadow 2 series guns already has de-cocker built in, but people in America don’t understand European gun design logic. And large majority of the people here don’t understand guns at all. They only know and understand 1911 series of pistols. They put double stack magazine in it and call it 2011. 😂
Ive always prefered hybrid style pustols with Compact Optics Ready slide with full size fram . Like the Shadow Systems XR920. I also love 4.25 Commander 2011 with full size frame . I wish CZ Would of made P01 Slide on aluminum full size frame that was optics ready , Decocker , and deep triggerguard / beavertail undercut. I would also like it to maintain F.P.B.. To me this would be the ultimate do all be all CZ75
Agree on your comments . Shadow 2 compact is a fine pistol , but no firing pin block make it a no go for carry imo. It seems like marketing at its best with the S2. Just curious, how much does your pistol weigh?
Gabe, your audio has been fine on all the videos I've watched of yours. Its a shame you can't mate the P-01 slide up to the 75 frame - what is the actual hang up there, the locking block isn't right, or what? Personally I don't get the mullet guns. I know they've been popular long before the Glock 19X, but a compact slide with a full frame just doesn't make any damn sense to me, because as you point out - the butt is where concealment becomes an issue, and shorter barrel / lighter slide guns have snappier recoil than full length slides and barrel do, Maybe because I'm kind of large - 6'4" I don't get it. I carry a Glock 34 at work (school security monkey) in a Safariland level 3 holster with their standard mid drop. I don't get the gun jamming into my side, or anything like that, so the notion of a short muzzle being somehow better just doesn't make sense to me. In a uniform with a duty belt I want the biggest damn gun that is the easiest to shoot I can get. If I could do it, I'd run my G34 slide on a G19 frame for off duty concealed carry because of how easy the 34 shoots. I experimented with swapping locking blocks between my 17 (same frame and locking block as the 34) and my 19 and it still did not work. Some of the other geometry on the compact Glocks is different, I guess. If Safariland made a level three holster for a CZ-75 or a modern Beretta 92 I'd rather have those than the Glock, but Safariland has abandoned double action pistols except for the Sig 22x's - for now. Seems a matter of time until those get dropped off and its just striker fired Glocks, SW, FN, and Sig 320's. They don't even seem to make a level 3 holster for Springfield's new hotness - only a level 1 ALS holster.
No, actually I do not. The tuned trigger on my CZ P-01 is better than the S2C, and I do not care for the silly optic arrangement they set up. There is no provision for a true rear sight and the plates that people use on them that incorporate a rear sight will not allow for zeroing the irons independently of the optic. Its a nice range toy for gun sport, but not for "street work".
I am not a big CZ fan, although I do feel without a doubt that they make some great guns. The biggest reason that I do not own several is that they primarily produce DA/SA guns and I am a SAO fan. I do have a CZ75 TSO that I feel is a great gun, but definitely not a carry peace. If they produce a 4" or less light weight metal frame SAO that is MRD ready, they will have my attention.
If you say so.. it's cuz you have one. Not any better than a p01 or pcr that's been cajunized. Manual safety kinda suck for cc and is in no way better than a decocker.
@@BigheroC Me too, but that's cause I'm quite restricted how much I can buy so what I get has to last far longer and possible offer caliber conversion options. The P-10 works well in certain roles, a carry beater of sorts. Maybe with a lot of weight on the belt already.
Sorry to say, but the metal framed Omega's have all been discontinued. I got the P-01 Omega just in the nick-of-time. With a little spring work, I'm just under 3 & 8 pounds.
@@WilliamKister I have moved on from striker fired pistols so I won't be buying one. The optic system is much better than the MOS, but a much better way is to get the slide milled for the specific type of optic than a catch all system.
I know them very well...they are a few minutes from my Phoenix house. My pistols have many of their parts. But they don't offer a full complete pistol like what I would want.
CZ makes great double/single action pistols. With the exception of the shadow 2 series pistols they all don’t have optics ready slides. No point in reaching out to CZ as the CZ engineers have fallen asleep at the wheel.
In the real world these full sized pistols are too big, and too heavy. I carried many miles of traveling the Glacier National Park trails with a P365XL upper with a Holosun 507K optic with a 4.2" True Precision SS threaded barrel on a P365 Wilson Combat lower with a 10 rd. mag carrying 12+1 rounds of 147 gr. Hard cast ammo with the Magguts spring & follower at the 3:30 IWB in a Clinger 2 clip holster with comfort pad. Small, light-weight, concealable. I would not want to carry anything heavier no matter how much better it shot, & in reality, wouldn't shoot that much better anyway. I shoot this pistol during IDPA & ASI matches & shoot quite accurately with it. Downside is that the Sig P365 series can't go more than a couple of thousand rounds before they break down and have to be sent back to Sig for repair. I have 2 P365 series pistols and they routinely know the way back to the Sig repair shop.
Not everyone wants a striker fired pistol anymore...and I have moved on from them for reasons I have expressed. And the P-01 weighs about the same as a Glock 19.
I would highly recommend checking out the Shadow 2 Compact in person… I shot it and handled it last weekend, and was incredibly impressed. The trigger is far better than even my Cajunized P-01, and it shoot beautifully…
open.spotify.com/episode/5eYzMMSmOIdb8IMUiKPA4p?si=lRj7Ce2RREm40mWhDVHe3A
No, actually I do not. The tuned trigger on my CZ P-01 is better than the S2C, and I do not care for the silly optic arrangement they set up. There is no provision for a true rear sight and the plates that people use on them that incorporate a rear sight will not allow for zeroing the irons independently of the optic. Its a nice range toy for gun sport, but not for "street work".
I love this build. It’s awesome to see a frankengun that gives you exactly what you’re looking for.
I’ve never owned a perfect pistol yet it always seems to be something I would change no matter the platform. I own the shadow 2 compact the lighter frame is a huge benefit what CZ should have done on this gun is put a decent safety that’s usable, a better trigger profile that doesn’t pinch your finger on the reset and G-10 grips that aren’t slippery. Fortunately these parts can be changed out I’ve already replaced my trigger to a better straighter profile and the safety that’s extended now I’m waiting on LOK to make the G-10 grips that should be out soon. That will be the best CZ carry gun in my opinion.
Update: LOK grips just released thin or palm swell Bogies for the compact shadow 2.
Gun companies, including CZ and the cottage industry, will see this video and gladly take your ideas. Great information.
That's my dream gun ❤ I've never understood why manufacturers don't understand the grip is the only thing that matters for concealment. Ps you were talking about sending it out for grip checkering, you can actually get a 'checkering file' for about 30 bucks and do it yourself. I did it on my 1911, it's hard to get started but easy enough after that
The Shadow 2 Compact with aluminum frame is lighter and can be used in IDPA Competition which has a 43 oz weight maximum. Glad to see you still believe in shotgun stocks. Thanks for another informative CZcams upload !
The issue I have with the Shadow 2 compact is they do not make it available with the provision of back up sights. You either go irons or optics...not both. And both are needed on a street gun IMHO.
open.spotify.com/episode/5eYzMMSmOIdb8IMUiKPA4p?si=lRj7Ce2RREm40mWhDVHe3A
The original use of the term "guttersnipe" I believe, was coined by Paris Theodore in reference to his snag-proof CQB sighting system for his S&W mod. 39 conversion... called the "ASP".
Yes...and I shamelessly stole it from him.
Audio sounds good to me
Look up the cz 40p. In my understanding it was 'extra' slides left over from the Colt collaboration that resulted in the cz 40b essentially reworked and mated to the P-01 frame. They are hard to find now, but are a similar form factor to what you created.
I’ll stick with the shadow 2 compact. Decocker is pointless anyway. Just carry it at half cock. You get a much better trigger without a decocker.
This is my preferred carry configuration. I was able to get one of their P10s in this configuration, but I wish they offered the P-07 the same way.
Loving the podcast Gabe
Hey Gab Suarez, how are you doing today? You should check out these different
DA/SA pistols - Grand Power k100 MK23 and k100 MK12 , Gramd Power P1 MK23 and P1 MK12, P1 Ultra, Grand Power makes some of the best handguns in the world the rotating barrel locking system mitigates the recoil making them really soft shooting handguns. Tanfoglio's combat line of pistol and stock2, EAA witness pistols, Sar USA K-12 Sport, SAR USA 2000,
Bersa TPR-9
Gives you a decocker, which is a game changer for me.
P-01 (non Omega) is pretty good all by itself. De-cocker and rail. Mine has Dawson night-sights and LOK palm-swell grips. If I were a 9mm kinda guy I'd carry it more. I don't imagine CZ is going to make a .45 ACP version, so I'll keep carrying the Sig...
CZ discontinued the Omega versions of the 75; it's a shame may want to load up.
CZ Shadow 2 Compact is probably the best gun ever made, some say it is the gun of decade, and once you see it in person, you will understand that perfect carry gun exist.
If it is going to be used as much for carry as it will be for competition then we’ll soon see a de-cocker variant.😊
CZ Shadow 2 series guns already has de-cocker built in, but people in America don’t understand European gun design logic. And large majority of the people here don’t understand guns at all. They only know and understand 1911 series of pistols. They put double stack magazine in it and call it 2011. 😂
Gabe, who cut your slide for the EPS? Bottom 1/3 to 1/4 with stock height sights? Thanks
Lots of people doing CZ now. Mine were done by my old company Suarez International
Totally agree!!
Ive always prefered hybrid style pustols with Compact Optics Ready slide with full size fram . Like the Shadow Systems XR920. I also love 4.25 Commander 2011 with full size frame . I wish CZ Would of made P01 Slide on aluminum full size frame that was optics ready , Decocker , and deep triggerguard / beavertail undercut. I would also like it to maintain F.P.B..
To me this would be the ultimate do all be all CZ75
Gabe,I don't know if this is the right place to talk about this ,But what Velocity's are you getting with Long Slide Glock 10 mm?
I haven't done ANY work with 10mm. Josh and Paul have. I have an order for one but thusfar haven't shot it.
Your Franken-P-01 is it one of the steel P-01 frames or aluminum? There are both out there.
Aluminum.
Agree on your comments . Shadow 2 compact is a fine pistol , but no firing pin block make it a no go for carry imo. It seems like marketing at its best with the S2. Just curious, how much does your pistol weigh?
Same as a Glock 17
CZ needs to see this video 🤔
Gabe, your audio has been fine on all the videos I've watched of yours.
Its a shame you can't mate the P-01 slide up to the 75 frame - what is the actual hang up there, the locking block isn't right, or what?
Personally I don't get the mullet guns. I know they've been popular long before the Glock 19X, but a compact slide with a full frame just doesn't make any damn sense to me, because as you point out - the butt is where concealment becomes an issue, and shorter barrel / lighter slide guns have snappier recoil than full length slides and barrel do,
Maybe because I'm kind of large - 6'4" I don't get it. I carry a Glock 34 at work (school security monkey) in a Safariland level 3 holster with their standard mid drop. I don't get the gun jamming into my side, or anything like that, so the notion of a short muzzle being somehow better just doesn't make sense to me. In a uniform with a duty belt I want the biggest damn gun that is the easiest to shoot I can get. If I could do it, I'd run my G34 slide on a G19 frame for off duty concealed carry because of how easy the 34 shoots. I experimented with swapping locking blocks between my 17 (same frame and locking block as the 34) and my 19 and it still did not work. Some of the other geometry on the compact Glocks is different, I guess.
If Safariland made a level three holster for a CZ-75 or a modern Beretta 92 I'd rather have those than the Glock, but Safariland has abandoned double action pistols except for the Sig 22x's - for now. Seems a matter of time until those get dropped off and its just striker fired Glocks, SW, FN, and Sig 320's. They don't even seem to make a level 3 holster for Springfield's new hotness - only a level 1 ALS holster.
So any offers on that lower ? I own a few CZ could see my 75BD on that lower for sure. Thanks let me know
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NOW YOU NEED THE SHADOW 2 COMPACT
No, actually I do not. The tuned trigger on my CZ P-01 is better than the S2C, and I do not care for the silly optic arrangement they set up. There is no provision for a true rear sight and the plates that people use on them that incorporate a rear sight will not allow for zeroing the irons independently of the optic. Its a nice range toy for gun sport, but not for "street work".
I am not a big CZ fan, although I do feel without a doubt that they make some great guns. The biggest reason that I do not own several is that they primarily produce DA/SA guns and I am a SAO fan. I do have a CZ75 TSO that I feel is a great gun, but definitely not a carry peace. If they produce a 4" or less light weight metal frame SAO that is MRD ready, they will have my attention.
The shadow 2 compact is better than your dream. Trust me.
If you say so, but there are things that I do not care for on the Shadow 2, and that I think make it a liability.
If you say so.. it's cuz you have one. Not any better than a p01 or pcr that's been cajunized. Manual safety kinda suck for cc and is in no way better than a decocker.
They should have updated the P07. Slimmed it out a little and made it OR & SR and beefed up the internals.
I guess makes no sense for them to do that when they make more profit making the P-10. With stinks is losing the rear sight with their optics cut.
@@onpsxmember I still have reservations on buying any p10 line (other than p10m) vs the hammer fired variants.
@@BigheroC I have moved on from striker fired pistols.
@@suareztactics theyre boring to me honestly. I love my hammers, and i learn and retain info about them.
@@BigheroC
Me too, but that's cause I'm quite restricted how much I can buy so what I get has to last far longer and possible offer caliber conversion options. The P-10 works well in certain roles, a carry beater of sorts. Maybe with a lot of weight on the belt already.
Except for being in 40 S&W my 40P is quite close to this.
Sorry to say, but the metal framed Omega's have all been discontinued.
I got the P-01 Omega just in the nick-of-time. With a little spring work, I'm just under 3 & 8 pounds.
I know. Silly of them. I expect there are still plenty out there.
Me again,real world can you get 1500 FPS with 200 grain XTP?
I'd call the shop and ask Paul. He is the mad scientist when it comes to this stuff. 9287764492
You look a little bit like JK Simmons, but you sound a little bit like Robert Duvall.
LOL
Audio is good, fyi.
This is gross... I guess you've inspired me. It looks shit... I dig it.
CZ 75 Shadow 2 has too much of a match trigger. It's close
For the street I prefer DA and I think the Shadow 2 Optics system can be much better too.
@@suareztactics how do you like the way Springfield integrated the optics on their Echelon?
@@WilliamKister I have moved on from striker fired pistols so I won't be buying one. The optic system is much better than the MOS, but a much better way is to get the slide milled for the specific type of optic than a catch all system.
You obviously don't shop CZ Custom. #CZLIFE🇺🇸
I know them very well...they are a few minutes from my Phoenix house. My pistols have many of their parts. But they don't offer a full complete pistol like what I would want.
I'd rather stick with my 2075 rami then the shadow 2 compact
CZ makes great double/single action pistols. With the exception of the shadow 2 series pistols they all don’t have optics ready slides. No point in reaching out to CZ as the CZ engineers have fallen asleep at the wheel.
In the real world these full sized pistols are too big, and too heavy. I carried many miles of traveling the Glacier National Park trails with a P365XL upper with a Holosun 507K optic with a 4.2" True Precision SS threaded barrel on a P365 Wilson Combat lower with a 10 rd. mag carrying 12+1 rounds of 147 gr. Hard cast ammo with the Magguts spring & follower at the 3:30 IWB in a Clinger 2 clip holster with comfort pad. Small, light-weight, concealable. I would not want to carry anything heavier no matter how much better it shot, & in reality, wouldn't shoot that much better anyway. I shoot this pistol during IDPA & ASI matches & shoot quite accurately with it. Downside is that the Sig P365 series can't go more than a couple of thousand rounds before they break down and have to be sent back to Sig for repair. I have 2 P365 series pistols and they routinely know the way back to the Sig repair shop.
Not everyone wants a striker fired pistol anymore...and I have moved on from them for reasons I have expressed. And the P-01 weighs about the same as a Glock 19.
Cz already made that gun.
Cz 40 p
I suspect most of the new Shadow 2 Carry's is going to be used as a lighter Shadow 2 target gun.
More than likely sir.
@@suareztactics PS Thanks for the video. Nicely done.