Finally someone who has the guts to stand up for the .32 ACP. The Germans were quite fond of it ... I too found the recoil of the .380 Walther a bit offsetting , even though I carried it faithfully and questioned it's effectiveness back in the 1970"s .
My uncle died and left me several classic.32 ACP guns like the Colt 1903 pocket hammerless and the Browning 1910. Since I bought a bunch of .32 ACP ammo, I went ahead and bought a tiny Keltec P32. That gun rocks! I shot the Army pistol qualification with it at 25 meters (Alt C) and scored 40 out of 40 hits. I’m going to buy a black PPK in .32 ACP as soon as I can find one.
Hello viewers - can I get a hell yes??? I've owned a .380 ACP Walther PPK - sold it long ago. The recoil sucked for a pocket pistol and was noticeably unpleasant. It's the only pistol I've ever shot that gave me hammer bite - and I've never had that problem on any other pistol in my 30 years of shooting... I carried it for a long time because other options wouldn't work for me and my climate or clothing. A .32 ACP PPK is perfect for "shoot-ability" in that size of a pistol. Trust me.
32ACP also gives a slight capacity advantage, at least in terms of the PPK... from 6+1 to 7+1. I have a 380ACP PPK, but would not feel under-gunned with the 32ACP version either. In fact, searching for reviews of the new production 32ACP PPK is how I stumbled upon your video.
14:44 I rarely give a follow after only one video, but after this logical, well presented, video, and seeing that you compare Beretta and Walther, I’m about to subscribe.
Gabe You just hit THREE Home runs with this video! VERY well presented and thought out! I have been BITCHING to Walther for YEARS about offering the ppk in .32 again! Seems like they finally saw the light!
I'm glad I waited. I had a feeling Walther would bring back the PPK in 32 acp. I'm definitely getting 32 PPK over the longer grip 32 PPK/s and use the longer 8 round /s magazine for spare mag.
Finally! Someone figured out that these guns have hammers that can be cocked - and while the DA pull on a PP-series pistol is heavy, the SA pull is excellent. Walther based their Olympia-Modell on the PP…and Hammerli licensed it to develop the 200-series pistols.
why would you carry a gun that's larger and heavier than a 9mm, to have 1/4 as much power as the 9mm? it's not like a pocket 9mm is some sort of death ray, you know.
I wouldn't say "excellent"... but it's definitely very nice! Still a tiny bit of squish though, in the PP series trigger. Excellent is something like the SA pull on my S&W Model 29-2. Absolutely no perception of trigger movement at all while applying pressure, until it just goes off.
I just took a brisk walk around the neighborhood with my Makarov in the front pocket of my cargo shorts. The safety/decocker irritated my right thigh a bit, but other than that, good-to-go!
Great video Gabe! Speaking of cool CZ’s, I always thought the VZ 61 Skorpion is a quirky but cool piece of kit to have. Also, those Langdon Beretta Tomcats are just plain cool to me. Btw, I noticed your Omega Seamaster 300 Chrono in some of your older videos. Ya got style for miles, Gabe!
My hideout/ pocket pistols are kel tec P32, Kahr cw380 and a 38 snubby. My Kel tec is stuffed with the Fiocchi 73 grain FMJ Kahr cw380 My magazine is staggered with Winchester military grade full metal jacket, and the Hornady XTP loaded by precision 1 My 38 special. I'm happy with the 135 grain +P Speer GD Short barrel or the Corbon 110 grain DPX Kelly McCann also gives a good hideout gun pocket pistol class
@@suareztactics I also have seen people shot and killed by what is commonly referred as "mouse guns," but not many though. And I wouldn't like to be shot with any of those "mouse guns" or anything for that matter.
I had one back in the 1990s. It was "the other PPK". Sadly as they are wont to do...SIG discontinued it and now they are difficult to find, and equally difficult to find magazines for it.
it's a joke. 90 ft lbs per hit, when you could be hitting 5x that hard with a pocket 9mm. and the Liberty arms 50gr, solid copper hp load. animal tests proves that this combo hits at LEAST as hard as a 4" 357 with 125 gr jhps, but the recoil is that of a Makarov.
@@user-ci2mn1oy3w These little guns are for up close and personal work. If you get a malfunction with your pocket 9 because of a poor grip or any other reason, good luck clearing it with someone right up on you. The lcr is giving you 8 rounds with zero worries about malfunction due to improper grip and if you have a dud round you just pull the trigger again unlike the semi auto. If someone is within bad breath distance the revolver is superior to the semi auto imo.
Gabe, would love to hear your thoughts on the KT P-32. Mine has been very reliable. My 9mm's go on when I leave the house, but my P-32 is my "always" gun.
The “flying ashtray” term was first created by Dean Grennell, not the LAPD. Grennell was the publisher of Gun World magazine and a wildcat cartridge creator, back in the early 70’s. That 200gr Speer hollowpoint was later “morphed” into Speer’s Gold Dot line.
I agree about the Walther in 380. Very unpleasant. The Walther in 32 acp vs. the Beretta Tomcat. Which do you think is better or do you think they are both good but for different carry situations?
You have to know how to clear the flip barrel, they don’t extract by racking the slide, you have to pull the round out by hand I know very well cause someone shot me thinking it was cleared
I get What he is saying now when he spoke about strike a fire pistols being put in the pocket. He's just putting this weapon in his pocket without a pocket holster. So the weapon will not go off versus the trigger on a striker fired system
Those tip up barrel beretta are dangerous. How? No extractor. If the round fails to eject and the brass is stuck in the barrel, that could be the end of you.
you're at least 20 years behind the curve and that's if you dont hot-handload a locked breech 380. It's been possible to hollow point a lrn 95 gr cast slug to 90 grs and drive it safely to 1300 fps for 60+ years in a 6", 15 oz Star DK
C’MON MAN, a Glock 42 and/or 43 is carried in the pocket’s of thousands of people. Why can’t it be carried inside the pocket, with a leather pocket holster? …because we all know the gun will just go off all by itself. (Rolling my 👀).
there are 6'x4.5", 16 oz 9mm's out there. by using Liberty Arm's 50 gr, 2000 fps solid copper hp in a pocket 9mm, you can have 450 ft lbs of power going for you, not the 150 ft lbs of a typical 380. You can hot load a locked breech 380 with this same bullet and have 370 ft lbs and maybe not need to have a seamstress enlarge all of your pants pockets, as I did. Animal tests prove this 9mm load to be FAR superior to any 9mm jhp from a 3" barrel. Having your and on your gun, in your pocket, is twice as fast as any other ccw draw. So there you go, twice the speed into action and 3x the power than any 380, much less some sub 100 ft lb .32. Why would anyone settle for less? The recoil of this 9mm load is no more than that of a Makarov, so you can still get .20 second repeat hits. When you pull out such a 9mm, you are NOT just 'bluffing', but that IS what you're doing with a 380 and factory ammo.
Finally someone who has the guts to stand up for the .32 ACP. The Germans were quite fond of it ... I too found the recoil of the .380 Walther a bit offsetting , even though I carried it faithfully and questioned it's effectiveness back in the 1970"s .
My uncle died and left me several classic.32 ACP guns like the Colt 1903 pocket hammerless and the Browning 1910. Since I bought a bunch of .32 ACP ammo, I went ahead and bought a tiny Keltec P32. That gun rocks! I shot the Army pistol qualification with it at 25 meters (Alt C) and scored 40 out of 40 hits. I’m going to buy a black PPK in .32 ACP as soon as I can find one.
Hello viewers - can I get a hell yes??? I've owned a .380 ACP Walther PPK - sold it long ago. The recoil sucked for a pocket pistol and was noticeably unpleasant. It's the only pistol I've ever shot that gave me hammer bite - and I've never had that problem on any other pistol in my 30 years of shooting... I carried it for a long time because other options wouldn't work for me and my climate or clothing. A .32 ACP PPK is perfect for "shoot-ability" in that size of a pistol. Trust me.
32ACP also gives a slight capacity advantage, at least in terms of the PPK... from 6+1 to 7+1. I have a 380ACP PPK, but would not feel under-gunned with the 32ACP version either. In fact, searching for reviews of the new production 32ACP PPK is how I stumbled upon your video.
14:44 I rarely give a follow after only one video, but after this logical, well presented, video, and seeing that you compare Beretta and Walther, I’m about to subscribe.
Gabe You just hit THREE Home runs with this video! VERY well presented and thought out! I have been BITCHING to Walther for YEARS about offering the ppk in .32 again! Seems like they finally saw the light!
I'm glad I waited. I had a feeling Walther would bring back the PPK in 32 acp. I'm definitely getting 32 PPK over the longer grip 32 PPK/s and use the longer 8 round /s magazine for spare mag.
Finally! Someone figured out that these guns have hammers that can be cocked - and while the DA pull on a PP-series pistol is heavy, the SA pull is excellent. Walther based their Olympia-Modell on the PP…and Hammerli licensed it to develop the 200-series pistols.
why would you carry a gun that's larger and heavier than a 9mm, to have 1/4 as much power as the 9mm? it's not like a pocket 9mm is some sort of death ray, you know.
I wouldn't say "excellent"... but it's definitely very nice! Still a tiny bit of squish though, in the PP series trigger.
Excellent is something like the SA pull on my S&W Model 29-2. Absolutely no perception of trigger movement at all while applying pressure, until it just goes off.
Good presentation and no visible tattoos as a bonus. Good deal!
Thanks...but there are a few tattoos coming soon. 😊
The f kind of a comment was that lmao 🤣
@@suareztactics Bring on the tats! I want an AK tat immediately!
An AK tat for me - not you! ha ha! (edited for horrendous grammar)
I just took a brisk walk around the neighborhood with my Makarov in the front pocket of my cargo shorts. The safety/decocker irritated my right thigh a bit, but other than that, good-to-go!
Much appreciate your well delivered insights & experience minus the nonsense…I am allergic to BS-apparently, you are too👍
It’d be great to hear Gabe’s thoughts on the Smith and Wesson 380 bodyguard
Good stuff
Great video Gabe! Speaking of cool CZ’s, I always thought the VZ 61 Skorpion is a quirky but cool piece of kit to have. Also, those Langdon Beretta Tomcats are just plain cool to me.
Btw, I noticed your Omega Seamaster 300 Chrono in some of your older videos. Ya got style for miles, Gabe!
Thanks man. I ran an old school VZ61 in Czech a few years ago. Love the little blaster. And yeah...Omega all the way...LOL.
Good stuff!
Luv this 👍
My hideout/ pocket pistols are kel tec P32, Kahr cw380 and a 38 snubby.
My Kel tec is stuffed with the Fiocchi 73 grain FMJ
Kahr cw380 My magazine is staggered with Winchester military grade full metal jacket, and the Hornady XTP loaded by precision 1
My 38 special. I'm happy with the 135 grain +P Speer GD Short barrel or the Corbon 110 grain DPX
Kelly McCann also gives a good hideout gun pocket pistol class
A little underpower, in my humble opinion. Good video Gabriel
LOL....seen plenty of dead people shot with 32 that would disagree with you.
@@suareztactics I also have seen people shot and killed by what is commonly referred as "mouse guns," but not many though. And I wouldn't like to be shot with any of those "mouse guns" or anything for that matter.
Sig P230 is a reliable .380 accurate too- it’s a Sig
Find some P230 mags and call me back😉
I had one back in the 1990s. It was "the other PPK". Sadly as they are wont to do...SIG discontinued it and now they are difficult to find, and equally difficult to find magazines for it.
Shot Placement! Practice,Practice,Practice!
I like the 22lr ruger lcr loaded with federal punch in this role. Nice watch btw.
it's a joke. 90 ft lbs per hit, when you could be hitting 5x that hard with a pocket 9mm. and the Liberty arms 50gr, solid copper hp load. animal tests proves that this combo hits at LEAST as hard as a 4" 357 with 125 gr jhps, but the recoil is that of a Makarov.
@@user-ci2mn1oy3w These little guns are for up close and personal work. If you get a malfunction with your pocket 9 because of a poor grip or any other reason, good luck clearing it with someone right up on you. The lcr is giving you 8 rounds with zero worries about malfunction due to improper grip and if you have a dud round you just pull the trigger again unlike the semi auto. If someone is within bad breath distance the revolver is superior to the semi auto imo.
I like my Gen 1 Keltec p32. Everyday.
Gabe, would love to hear your thoughts on the KT P-32. Mine has been very reliable. My 9mm's go on when I leave the house, but my P-32 is my "always" gun.
The P-32 is a fantastic little gun. I love mine.
Its OK...but its a Timex not a Rolex. Better than a harsh word however as long as it is loaded with the right ammo and deployed from ambush.
@@suareztactics A fair assessment, thanks.
OK, he has a point about the pocket carry. Da/Sa is the way to go
The “flying ashtray” term was first created by Dean Grennell, not the LAPD. Grennell was the publisher of Gun World magazine and a wildcat cartridge creator, back in the early 70’s. That 200gr Speer hollowpoint was later “morphed” into Speer’s Gold Dot line.
I heard the term from some LAPD special unit dudes. Never knew about Grennell. Thanks. I carried that load in my old 645.
I agree about the Walther in 380. Very unpleasant. The Walther in 32 acp vs. the Beretta Tomcat. Which do you think is better or do you think they are both good but for different carry situations?
Alright, you just convinced me to dump the 1908 vest pocket .25 auto, and buy a PPK.. Damn it.. Actually I've never carried the Colt. Grandpa did.
Good review. But the gun you were showing is the PPK/S not a PPK. very similar though, I know.
You have to know how to clear the flip barrel, they don’t extract by racking the slide, you have to pull the round out by hand I know very well cause someone shot me thinking it was cleared
A good smith can add an extractor (and real sights) to the Berettas
Well, I'm sure that made an impression! Where was POI, & which ammo?
HST brother
I get What he is saying now when he spoke about strike a fire pistols being put in the pocket. He's just putting this weapon in his pocket without a pocket holster.
So the weapon will not go off versus the trigger on a striker fired system
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Dude...pocket holsters? LOL. Just let it go.
Those tip up barrel beretta are dangerous.
How?
No extractor. If the round fails to eject and the brass is stuck in the barrel, that could be the end of you.
You. always get one more shot in the magazine with a .32 acp than the same gun in .380
you're at least 20 years behind the curve and that's if you dont hot-handload a locked breech 380. It's been possible to hollow point a lrn 95 gr cast slug to 90 grs and drive it safely to 1300 fps for 60+ years in a 6", 15 oz Star DK
Handloads for everyday carry? Not for me...good luck
What is your body fat Gabe? Those veins on your forarms say
Thanks brother...I hover around 10%
In a world with P365s this doesn’t make too much sense
I don't care for the Sig 320 family, and a 365 carried in a pocket? Nope.
Read the ellafritz study. Anything less than .380 acp isn't as effective as you believe it to be.
I know Greg but my street experience tells me otherwise.
@@suareztactics if it work for you it's fine
@@stevewodell6183 Yup
Common sense on display .... A rare comodity this days
C’MON MAN, a Glock 42 and/or 43 is carried in the pocket’s of thousands of people. Why can’t it be carried inside the pocket, with a leather pocket holster? …because we all know the gun will just go off all by itself. (Rolling my 👀).
Roll those eyes all you want. Pocket carry with a striker fired (single action in effect) pistol is unwise...but do as you please.
As long as you have a pocket holster You will be fine
@@therond.patron4959 drive on and good luck
there are 6'x4.5", 16 oz 9mm's out there. by using Liberty Arm's 50 gr, 2000 fps solid copper hp in a pocket 9mm, you can have 450 ft lbs of power going for you, not the 150 ft lbs of a typical 380. You can hot load a locked breech 380 with this same bullet and have 370 ft lbs and maybe not need to have a seamstress enlarge all of your pants pockets, as I did. Animal tests prove this 9mm load to be FAR superior to any 9mm jhp from a 3" barrel. Having your and on your gun, in your pocket, is twice as fast as any other ccw draw. So there you go, twice the speed into action and 3x the power than any 380, much less some sub 100 ft lb .32. Why would anyone settle for less? The recoil of this 9mm load is no more than that of a Makarov, so you can still get .20 second repeat hits. When you pull out such a 9mm, you are NOT just 'bluffing', but that IS what you're doing with a 380 and factory ammo.