Ruger MAX-9: It's the Cheapest, But is it Good?
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- In this episode of TFBTV, James Reeves reviews Ruger's new MAX-9 Micro Compact 9mm. The MAX-9 holds 10+1 rounds of 9mm in a very small package, and is reasonably priced with an MSRP below $500. But how does it compare to its competition, mainly the SIG P365, the Smith & Wesson Shield Plus, and the Springfield Hellcat? James compares all four of these guns in this video. It has night sights out of the box, it's optics ready, and it's inexpensive, but is it a bargain or a bust? Check today's video and find out.
Contents:
0:00 Intro
2:07 MAX-9 Size Comparison
3:50 MAX-9 Specs
5:00 Recoil
5:27 Sights and Optics
7:40 Other Features and Ergos
9:00 Trigger
9:20 Buttons and Levers
10:06 MAX-9 vs. Hellcat, P365, and Shield Plus
11:45 Accuracy
12:13 Pricing
12:30 Easy to Use?
13:23 Negatives
19:57 Conclusion
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As a gun store manager having all of these options on the shelves cracks me up. Because I get to watch my associates painstakingly try to explain to the customer the minute details between all of the models.
Hasn't been hard for me so far "S&W Shield Plus is a S&W Shield with 14 rounds", "Hellcat and P365 are smaller", and "Ruger is cheap". Unless they are completely new to guns and even when they are, usually they've heard of S&W and Ruger and tend to gravitate towards one of those brands.
But it's great that the market gives options.
@@Predalien195 Plus the amount of new shooters really makes me happy to see. With luck, (and bad politics) there will be even more new shooters by the end of this year. I'm actually ok paying more for ammo (temporarily) if that means more people being able to perfect themselves and their loved ones.
I hope this video helps a little.
Wait? 🤨 you TRAIN gun shop staff? You have full time staff that know & understand gun industry issues? NSSF details? Customer service? Rebates? Warranty details? 🚔 discounts? Wow! 😯
I demand the maraca test be incorporated in all future TFB reviews, firearm size be damned.
Funny part about this test.... would it be mag in or mag out? My carry gun is completely silent with the mag out but rattles with the mag in.
Makes no diff with the Ruger - it's definitely the slide, mag in or out.
I had an FN that sounded like a bottle of aspirin in my pocket. Tried all the things my gun store recommended but nothing fixed it. So I sold it and bought a Springfield
Especially when tasting beers in the mailroom.
My nightstand pistol only rattles if I top it up. Without the +1 it's fine but that 18th round does something weird.
Ruger, for us poor people who respect ourselves too much to buy a taurus
Better check out the Taurus G3C T.O.R.O before saying that. It accepts red dot optics and is $100 cheaper with a great trigger
Their both excellent firearms
Gx4
@@goodensamuel25 gx4 for sure
Oof I have both and love them. I have a 2500 dollar custom Glock and 1911 but still carry my G2C everyday...
8:20 - 8:30 mark.
Let us take a moment to appreciate those extremely long internal slide frame rails. If my assessment is correct, the Ruger MAX-9 has the longest internal slide rails of all the current micro compacts. Runner-up (possibly tied) would have to be the SIG P365. Whereas the Springfield Armory Hellcat and the S&W Shield Plus have your standard dual internal slide rails.
It also warms my heart to see Arizona on the side of a firearm. This project was the "biggest secret" in Yavapai County for the longest time. I would like to take the opportunity to commend the residents of Prescott, Arizona and the surrounding Tri-City area for keeping such a tight lid on the subject matter. I know some of you are watching.
_"Loose lips sink ships."_
Stay classy my friends.
I noticed those long rails too. They look like they'd hold up better than the shorter, split rails on my current carry pistol.
Has anything bad ever happened because of shorter slide rails? I see this mentioned somewhat frequently, and the only supposed benefit I've heard of is increased accuracy, but I have never seen that claim tested.
Yes, seeing Prescott on this pistol is great..... and it's about time!!
@@riflemanm16a2 glock has tiny rails
@@riflemanm16a2 I came to ask this. Though I don't think it's testable cause there are no two designs close enough that slide rails would be the only difference.
Saving $150 lets you get a mag of 9mm to practice with
@RedRight Hand plus isn't optic ready without upgrade or fiber optic sight.
@RedRight Hand Superior in what way? No accessory rail, no night sights, and no optic cut on the base model. All they did was widen the Shield because it was clearly obsolete holding only 7+1.
@RedRight Hand I was just pointing out that the OP came up with 100 diff when you compare apples to apples.
@RedRight Hand 150* as you said playing devil's advocate. Just pointing out the view from the other side.
As you said it makes very little diff to me. I prefer my G19 size VP9. And have a single stack if I feel I want something smaller. This size pistol is very intriguing and would be nice to have. Though I don't see it a necessity.
@RedRight Hand Taurus g3 is 299
I may just live long enough to see Ruger get the respect they deserve. Well done James. 💯 they offer quality & value and don't want your first born in exchange.
Depends on what you're buying from them... Their semi auto pistols? No, they're cheap. Their revolvers? S&W's, Taurus, and Charter Arms are all cheaper than they are. Many Italian companies make cheap SAA clones far cheaper than a Ruger Vaquero, Ruger Blackhawk, and etc. AR-15's? They're actually pretty cheap for how good they truly are so that's a big win for them. The AR market is oversaturated though as a whole so finding a cheap and quality AR is not hard to do(not counting the current situation). But then you've got their bolt actions like the American series. Savage and Mossbergs are cheaper and when Remington was making them the 783's were cheaper too. Now, quality COULD be debated on the American vs the rest of them but I've used all of them and sell all of them at my work, the Ruger's don't sell as often due to their price.
I don't think Ruger is a bad company as a whole mind you. But they are not always cheap when it comes to their asking prices and I don't believe the final product is always worth the extra cost.
@@Predalien195 I can definitely respect your experience and knowledge on the subject. Rugers tend to hang around my local gun shops(Southwest Michigan) and many aren't willing to give them much a chance. But as far as price i believe that Max-9 is cheaper than the models James compared to it. I just don't believe Rugers from a quality standpoint are as bad as many believe. Hell, Rugers in price might actually even be the quality to price ratio cut off where anything at or above is great and anything below is likely not worth a flys nutt sack.
What company wants your first born? Really trying to get to the bottom of this comment
@@prstoxbeats4734 Well I do work in a gun store and this has been my experience... Their semi autos ever since the P series have been crap. The SR series was decent and had potential but they wasted it.
The current crop of guns they got, the Security 9 is their best they are offering value wise to me. I see LC9/EC9 pistols come back for repairs often, same with LCP's and lately the Ruger-57's too. Even had a LC9 Pro that out of the box, racked the slide and the front sight fell off.
Ruger revolvers though have been sturdy for a long time and that hasn't changed. Seen a few issues with them over the years like the .327 Federal Magnum SP101's. Namely the early models which were just rechambered .32 H&R Magnum SP101's and they didn't ream the chambers out well so cases would swell after firing and get stuck.
Despite earlier reputations, currently the best "Budget" friendly guns are Taurus. We sell probably 10 to 15x the amount of Taurus guns to just 1 Ruger like the Security 9 or EC9 and I see far fewer guns needing returns for repairs. So I do believe their reputation for semi auto pistols is relatively well deserved with exception to guns like the Mark series .22 LR guns.
I would take a Ruger Security 9 over something like a S&W SDVE series pistol all day long but I'd take a Taurus G3 or TH9 over both. But that's just what I've seen with my own eyes.
@@tylerchristel9087 It's just an expression like "costs and arm and a leg". Some companies really do ask a lot for such basic guns sometimes. The AR15 market is a prime example. Guns like Daniels Defense. Many are very basic bare bones mil-spec guns that really offer nothing competitive about them for their pricing other than the name. Obviously quality of parts and components matter but it's not hard to find one with equal quality for less that's built from the factory or one you can make yourself.
In the handgun market, many feel this way about Glock, Sig, and H&K. But of course it's all subjective opinion.
Went to the gun store to inquire about this gun. Left with the P320 AXG Scorpion. Whoops
You made a wise choice
I was at my local gun shop when the UPS truck arrived... Decided to help myself and paw through the boxes... shield plus on top, yeah it was OK, sorta...dig a little deeper and found a Ruger Max 9 box. Are opening up the box, pull it out of the bag, work the action, and try the trigger..... seems to be little more than an LCP in 9mm. Was suitably unimpressed.... bagged it back up and stuck it back in the box.
Something I am sure the Fudds will love.
It happens
Baller! 🎳🎳🎳🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪✔✔✔ I'd look at the alloy frame SIG too but the wave of - press with P320s turns me away. FWIW, my cousin owns a full size P320 .357sig, .40 model(5+ years). He has 0 misfires or problems.
@@formerpilgrim4934 I'd avoid 🤭 Ruger polymer pistols. I owned 2, two Rugers; NIB. Both had problems, design flaws. Ruger among others NSSF.org need much better QC 🔍 in 2021.
The real test you didn't do: does this pistol conceal in short shorts?
.25 acp pistol: *Bonjour*
Carries well appenDIX
@@usmcvet0313 Serious question. When you carry appendix, how do you sit down?
@@bcarss1970 I don't carry my fullsize appendix, only my shield. When I go to sit, I hike my pants up. That puts the muzzle above the pivot point of my leg. If it digs into my leg, I slide the holster sideways on my belt until the muzzle is just inside my leg. I'm 6' about 165 lbs, the thinner you are the easier it is to do.
@@usmcvet0313 Too much work, lol. I will stay at 4 o'clock.
I picked up the non-pro version a couple months ago for my off body carry gun. Once I shot it I really loved it. I added a Sig Romeo Zero to it. Then last week I found the pro version for $375 at my local Academy. So moved the Sig optic over to the pro and bought a Crossbreed holster and it has now become my primary carry gun. Ole’!
Rugar cut non needed cost not cheap
Wait wait wait... cheap pistol and not a Hop review? Shame on you. (thumbs up and a watch anyway)
I want hop to do beer reviews....
I'll leave.
Lol thats true
I thought the same thing.... next time we may see Hop wearing shorts to take revenge on James!
@@CzechoslovakGunStories as tall as Hop is he could just use James' pants as shorts.
I love these videos with James. He has a great combination of experience, detail, bluntness, with a little humor.
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It’s kind of crazy that kel-Tec had a gun in this market for years, and then stops making it when other company’s start to follow 😂
Kinda like P3AT; years later Ruger comes out with the LCP.
I like Kel-Tec. They aren't afraid to make crazy firearms. Whenever I look up odd firearm ideas, Kel-Tec usually has a firearm that matches.
Definitely innovators.
That's why I like Kel-Tec. they make the prototypes, then better manufacturers come along and make usable guns.
The PF9 was a piece of shit. I bought one. It’s favorite failure was a double feed because of its shit extractor. You know, the kind of failure where you have to manually lock the slide open and forcefully rip the magazine out?
And you know what else.. when George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin, he only shot him once. Why? Because his PF9 immediately introduced a double feed.
@@DanUtley Dude, that was what my P32 would do so you know what? I sent it back to Keltec, they paid shipping to and from, and since I got it back it has been flawless since spring 2017. Just send it in for warranty work and get it made right and quit bitching. I've sent back S&Ws and Rugers too.
Love you, James! Great, practical and usable review, as always!
Still have my P89, P90 and P95! No status but they sure work! Very reliable and a major workhorse.Just picked up my Max 9 and took it apart and lubed it up for the range. It has a nice grip and made in the U.S. with a lifetime warranty. Paid $399 for mine here in Commiefornia. Took my Max 9 to the range today and it was 100% in reliability, accurate with low recoil. Works for me!
picked up the shield plus after your video. No regrets its wonderful. Probably dry fired it 200x the first day and headed to the range after lunch to get some trigger time in. The trigger should be made standard across their model lineup.
Dude it's legitimately a great gun. Congrats.
Same! His video on the shield plus is exactly why I bought it. No regrets!
I'll second or 4th that. The Shield plus is not the prettiest micro 9 in my opinion but it just feels right and has the best track record
@@ryanjoband9082 yes! Well said… it just feels right, fits in the hand so well.
Ruger should have just named it the Rattlesnake and said the sound at 15:26 was a feature. The sound alone can deescalate a deadly encounter.
The new Walther PDP rattles worse if you can believe it.
I like your idea for the name..."Rattlesnake!" Catchy! Ruger is from Prescott, AZ.
The new max 9 checks a lot of box’s for $499. Light weight, easy to conceal, front fiber optic site, optics ready, good capacity. If it proves to be reliable and accurate and fits comfortably in your hand...what more could you want for gun in this class? Ruger has been paying attention and jammed a lot of popular useable features in this new max 9.
There revolvers I'm kinda torn between smith and rugar do some really closeup side by sides
@@troydixon4425 all i wish is that colt kept innovating on the revolver platform and never let smith & wesson get ahead of them. Literally propagated the revolver onto this world, and yet look where they are now
@@ruthrobles4594 but guns are over priced u look to forge relationships with other manufacturers that can grow you're pattens u look up not down accept in certain circumstances some smaller manufacturers have the work ethic and maybe something u need but that's rare u look up not down
Bought my CA compliant model for $450 out the door with taxes and DROS. They have been dropping in price.
As always, i appreciate the NON biased reviews. You just give straight up facts. Again, much appreciated. I subbed/liked your channel!
Excellent review James. As usual you cover all key points. Well done.
On my LC9s pro. I have only used a tool to remove the pin once. Although not as simple as most. Pull the retaining latch down. Holding the gun pin side down, with thumb on back strap close to slide. Using your index and middle finger to jiggle the slide. The pin on my gun will slide out with very little effort.
Just got the California edition. No trigger rattle. Barrel rattles when locked open because it’s a tapered barrel and there’s a natural gap as it opens. Zero rattles when in battery. Quality in all visible areas.
Thoughts on the part in the manual about dry firing? Should be fine right? Also looking to get CA compliant
@@CarsMeetsBikes manual is online and I assume it means dry firing 10 times before each range session is fine, but if dry firing is a core part of regular home training, just put in a snap cap.
I guess primers are hard but more of a cushion than empty chamber rims vs the shoulder of the striker.
Also I was shocked to learn that even high end makers like Sig (sometimes, at least P365) use MIM strikers; I would have expected forged (and a "shoulder" portion of the Sig striker acts as a back up safety, instead of physical blocks (pistons) in the path of travel.
I think this finally sold me on getting a P365. That visual size comparison was very helpful, thanks!
Excellent review James! Very thorough!
I feel like we all still need to thank the KelTec P11 and PF9 for this thing. Esp the PF9. That inner chassis is basically the PF9's. The slide's innards look just like the PF9, and the shakiness is also a trait of the PF9.
Would you say it takes after the pf9
I used to let gravity work out my slide pin on my old EC9, didn't use a paperclip, but mine also had that jiggle in the frame when shook.
Great review of this gun u were very specific and explained everything very well, really do appreciate that
Would love to see a review on the LCP2. Thanks for all the educational and entertaining vids.
Ruger is just being honest with it's manual. +P will wear any pistol faster.
I think every 9mm firearm has that warning.
Didn't I say that exact thing
All correct but for “it’s.” Unless you are in England, which you aren’t.
This is why 40 caliber pistols last longer than everything else. There are no plus P rounds.
@@jaycee30865 I was under the impression that 40 cal pistols are less durable since they are built on 9mm frames. The extra power of the 40 cal batters the guns resulting in increased repairs.
That's been one of the reasons for departments going back to 9mm handguns
I really like Ruger. I picked one of these up recently for $440. Personally I like the “rolling” feel of the trigger. Feels like a revolver pull which I prefer. Has everything on it stock that I would normally upgrade when I get a new pistol. I added a Holosun 507k. It’s a great carry pistol. I switch carry between this and my 43x which I also love but had to spend a lot of $$ upgrading things on it to make it what I want it a carry gun and it still doesn’t have a red dot.
Thanks for the helpful review. I love my S&W 9c & PM9 but am looking for another carry. I was 99% on the Shield Plus but was told to check out the MAX-9. I guess all I have to do now is give it a try. Thanks for the great videos...
Great review! Thank you so much for your work.
That was one awesome review.. but myself went with the Shield plus. I’ve been a Ruger fan for many a years, always will . This is my first Smith & Wesson .
Ahh, "the humble Ruger P89". Funny you should mention that one James. A used Ruger P89 9mm in stainless steel with a grey aluminum alloy frame and a Hogue grip sleeve plus 3 - 15 round magazines was my very first pistol. I bought it for Basic Law Enforcement Training in 1994 for $450 (after "The Ban", buying used was the only way to get a pistol with standard capacity magazines). I was 22 and very new to pistols.
Yea !! I love my P-89. Also put Hogue grips on it. Great gun super reliable. I got maybe 30 years ago. One of my favorite girls. 😁
It was the p85 that rattled not the p89.
Good information and very fair evaluation . Thanks
Nice video and some outstanding points about +P+ warnings and so on. I was looking at getting one of these and now I may just stay with a know item S&W as I have a Shield 45 for four years and it is hands down a great little CCW. Mine came with the green laser and I had to change out the battery just a few months ago so that tells us how good the S&W folks do with quality on their guns. The new S&W has a ported barrel along with a tuned action and outstanding trigger from what I have learned in just the last hour. With all of those items and the known quality of S&W I am going that route. My current CCW are the 365XL with the optic Romeo Zero which is the name of that pistol I believe. It is one of the most accurate hand guns I've ever shot, along with the P320 C both of them are dead on if you practice like we should. The hellcat is very easy to shoot as well and I used to have that for a good while as my carry gun and it would pleasantly surprise me when I ended up my range session with it and the groups where the size of a half dollar or smaller from 10 yds which is good for me. I can't wait to shoot the new S&W though as it will be a great addition to anyones collection.
They need to make a Glock 19 size gun that holds 20 rounds now
@@chad_8313 Nah. The way they made the s15 mags is removing the polymer from the steel and widening the steel mag, thus creating the same size mag, but wider inside to fit those extra rounds.
You'd have to make it triple stack or some other wizardry.
@@almostamateur Right, someone actually inquired about a high cap glock 19 mag from shield arms, the problem is the size. They cant make a double and a half stack mag because that would be a flop, and if they made it a triple stack it would be too wide for the glock frame itself.
@@almostamateur you shouldn’t have to make the mag triple stack. Just use a thicker gauge steel for the body, Or even do the opposite of the OEM mags and have a polymer sleeve on the inside.
@@chriscarnes87 Polymer sleeve, inside or out, would take up too much space.
"You boys like maracas don't you? Of course you do, what a stupid question"
I had to rewind that about 10 times it made me laugh so hard lol.
Dude, I love your demeanor. You always say something that makes me smile.
Another great review James. Thank you sir
I think it is smart for Ruger to only have a single model (cut for RMR). It reduces capital tooling costs, mfg costs and mfg time, marketing & packaging costs, and it allows them to be faster to market. Folks who don't use the RMR cut probably don't care that it is there, so no negative there. I am a tiny bit surprised there is no rail mount, but it *is* a very small package. While the +P+ thing is a little surprising, OTOH, how many people actually read the manual? Kudos to you for doing so. It makes me wonder if some competitors didn't think or bother to include the warning but might thave had they thought to do so? Or maybe Ruger had some failures in testing with some really hot +P+ ammo.
Pretty sure they all heed those warnings about the +p+. Smith and wesson for sure says that same thing. I just looked.
@@625jeffrey Cool, good to hear. Most folks won't use the really hot +P+ stuff anyway (like we could even find it these days if we wanted to!), so putting in the warning means that much less they have to worry about from a warranty and repair aspect, especially if they know there really are issues.
@@billstevens5277 Ruger-philes who like optics would, but generally speaking, I'm sure you are correct. Most folks won't put optics on period. OTOH, my friend just ordered the new Holosun 507k he's putting on his new 365 for under $300. I could see some folks, who really like Ruger, doing that with the Max-9.
Is the Max9 trigger the same feel and pull as the LC9S? I carry the LC9S and love the trigger. Great video!
Great vid. Thanks for the content. Replaced my trusty Shield Gen1 with the p365 and really torn between the Shield Plus PC 4 inch and the p365 xl.
Quite entertaining, and informative. Thanks
A good comprehensive report but I'm sticking with my 365 w/a thumb safety that's 12 + 1 and has NEVER had any problems
I picked up a P365 in December and love it so I'm off the market, but I carried an EC9s for a couple years prior and I've always thought it and the Lc9s were very under rated guns. I would definitely have considered the Max-9 when I upgraded if it had been out.
I like my LC9s, but my LCP II is lighter & more convenient. Only prob is the LCP II (380) doesnt have a thumb safety, unless you opt for the .22 caliber.
@@gregoryjsnyder8150 I have a few issues with the LCP2 22lr.
1) It only comes with one magazine. (Extra magazines are expensive. The best deal I found was $40 for 2.)
2) It is really picky when it comes to ammo. (CCI Mini Mags seem to work the best and was told this when I purchased it.)
3) I can't find a pinky extension for it anywhere! I understand it is a micro pistol, but a pinky extension would do wonders for this firearm.
Other than that, it is a good for training and plinking if you can find one on sale. I purchased mine new about a year ago for $289 (with a 100 rounds of CCI Mini Mags thrown in the deal) which I think is a fair price, but have seen them for advertised for as much as $400. That being said, I think it's a great hiking/tackle box firearm since it is so small. Trust me, I'm not hating on it, just stating the few issues I've personally run into. All in all, I'm happy with the purchase and it goes without saying, but Ruger's customer service is top-notch as well.
Take care and happy shooting.
Thank you for mentioning the Kel-Tec p11. Seems like much folks don’t remember that that gun was considered micro compact unofficially when it first came out.
Man, this is an AWESOME review! Thank you
I love Ruger. I have multiple Ruger firearms and I've never had a failure with any of them. Keep doing what you're doing Ruger. I can't wait to put this one in my hand and see how it feels , regardless of who makes it, if it don't feel good in your hand don't buy it cause you won't like it
My ruger sr22 out the box had nothing but failure to fire and failure to feeds as well as a couple failure to eject. Tried 5 different ammo and so far still having problems out the box. Imma go shoot today and see if this shit continues acting dumb if so imma just send it to ruger and let them handle it and fix whatever is wrong or just send me a new gun. Iterally brought the gun and went directly into the range with it and it's been problem after problem straight out the box. 479 plus tax ended up being 515 so not sure why a 515 dollar gun from ruger is giving me all these problems..
Out of the 4, it's the only one I would probably buy. Being optic ready, and the most inexpensive sold it for me.
Great video love your commentation and your style made me chuckle a few times 😂 while watching was a very informative video and I just purchased a Max -9 a week ago, and I do love the Sig P365 but I did not have the extra $300 to spend at the time and both of these gun just came off the California roster which allowed folks to purchase them so I jumped on it. Anyway thanks for the informative video. Keep them rolling.
Great video. You give all the needed information, without going on and on and on....... Plus you do it all without looking like Grizzly Adams and an ad for a tattoo parlor! Nicely done!
Ruger consistantly puts out good shit for a good bit less than most every other manufacturer. And that lends it's self very well to first time entry level firearms owners for a variety of types of firearms.
First handgun, can't really go too wrong with a lc9s or max 9
First full power rifle ruger american
First ar-15 ruger 556
They aren't the best at anything, but they are really hard to beat as far as value and consistency in decent quality products.
Like the honest review.
I like the way the Ruger Max 9 barrel taper on each side of the front sight. Great for holstering and pulling out of the holster.
Thanks for confirming the slide play and associated noise. I had a jam and subsequent problem with the trigger making it impossible to field strip the gun. I was able to fix by popping out the trigger assembly dowel and separating the slide that way. Once back together I noticed the play and noise, which I don't remember having previously and I thought I put it back together wrong or broke something. Thanks for the conformation that that is just the way it is with the Max-9.
Great and impartial review of some fantastic concealed carry handguns. I happen to like them all, but have to consider which one is more budget friendly. Rugers have been in my family since I was very young, so I have no complaints. By the way, I agree that the P-89 was a GREAT gun because I had one back in the '90's and wish I still had it.
Me also . 😢🙏😀😍
I've got a silver P89 I inherited from my father. He loved big, heavy, metal guns (something else I inherited from him,) he carried it and always had it ready for home defense.
It's way too much of a brick for me to take on my person, but it's a blast at the range. Accurate and eats everything. People seem to have forgotten about them because I'm always getting questions on what it is.
There's always at least a handful on GunBroker for cheap. Keep an eye out.
The scuttlebutt is In april Taurus coming out with the gx4, we will see who the winner is!
Excellent presentation. Thank you.
Love my P-89. Same model you have bought it new in the early 90s. Great gun. Ruger makes a great product looking froward to getting another one soon.
I love Rugers. I had the P85, P89, P94 all of which I carried as a cop. Still have the 94, it still shoots great.
Back in the 70s, when I was an Army Ranger, I shot a .45 auto along with my M60 machine gun. The good shooting .45s would shake rattle and roll louder than these compact 9s.
I love my Rugers - the Max-9 is offering a lot. I just get the nagging feeling that a steel internal chassis would be stronger and more durable than aluminum. I suppose as long as you keep it clean and properly lubed it'll work a very long time.
I just bought a Ruger Max - 9 this last Saturday . Waiting on the required stuff to pick up.
This gun will accompany my Ruger SR9c that which I have had no problems or issues with. I was looking at the M&P Shield 9 at the same time as looking at the Ruger. Since I'm a big fan of Ruger , I went with the Max 9 .
Looking forward to taking this little compact out for some 'practice' time.
Love the granular discussion of dimension specs James.
my friends call me a Ruger snob, happened purely by accident, 1st bought an LCP, then an LCP II, a Security 9, and an EC9S, Now Can't Wait to get a Max 9
Nothing wrong with that. I became a cz/tangfo snob(aka the master race) a few years ago
You should try one of their revolvers.
@@357Addict got a couple myself. Ruger definately makes some fine ones.
Wife got a LCS9 and even though I wouldn't carry it myself, I give credit to it as it's pretty damn accurate and just fun
Thanks, I think that you was spot on in your review. Thanks for sharing.
Good honest review which I appreciate!
As a ruger fan boy I'm glad I have an excuse not to jump ship to sig
I'm a Ruger fan boy too, and I'm confident it's just as good as a Hellcat, Shield, or P365 AND roughly $150 cheaper. I bought a Security 9 for 279.99 on sale while a Glock 19, M&P, or XD was almost TWICE the price! lol
@@dalegribble1560 and here I am with a (fully forged unlike sgfld&Kimber)Taurus pt1911, an old slim series, and g3 wondering what all the fuss is about...
@@muleoutpost8156 I've got an old 709 slim. While I like it it definitely isn't as reliable as my other pistols. It has by far the most stoppages of any of my 9mms
@@muleoutpost8156 I have heard great things about the G3! Honest Outlaw isn't the only one who had a good review. Hell, I've even considered buying a G3 for a Truck gun.
Especially with all the holes the 320 is putting in people's legs. I don't trust Sigs anymore. Glad Ruger made one of these. Will buy one once ammo prices come back to normal.
James is the best gun guy on the interwebs. Even with the short shorts.
Good for you for Acknowledging the OG P11
Great video. thanks a bunch
Love the maraca test... Got to find a way to do it without looking like you're having a fit, lol.
I guess it's official now, we'll have a 10+1 micro glock in 2035.
and a bersa thunder in .380 made in 2008 will still be more shootable
@@americansuper-soldierjadav7234 Bersa thunders are trash.
@@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 why do you say that?
@@americansuper-soldierjadav7234 I had one. They’re made of pot metal and the trigger spring broke after 2k rounds
@@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 But, you shot it 2k times, didn't you?
James, your reviews are always so enjoyable to watch. Keep it up brotha
I appreciate that, thanks for watching.
@@tfbtv anytime man, my favorite gun reviewer on CZcams that doesn’t bring all the tacti-cool macho bullshit
Picked up max 9 pro on sale and as soon as I got home my wife had me order a iwb holster for it. Her glock 43x is now sitting on the table and I haven't been able to handle the ruger except to clean it. We have many brands and sizes of pistols in the house and this gun has become a favorite everyday carry pistol.
Don't let the take down pin scare you away from this gun. I have an LC9s and after you knock the pin out a few times, it falls out on it's own if you turn it upside down and tap it lightly.
Yep, just said that before I saw your earlier reply. All good of the Ruger train.
I can confirm this is true.
Exactly
Yup. I saw that demonstrated in another video. I does work.
I want to point out that the ruger lc9, lc9s, etc etc have the EXACT same "do not shoot +p+ ammo" and i can say they've been super durable with +p ammo. I've probably got 3000 rds through my lc9 and 5k through my lc9s. Will be grabbing one of these as soon as i can find a good deal on one for my new edc.
This uses a lc9s barrel, recoil spring, and trigger/action group. Its literally just an lc9s 2.0 and in double stack
@@Shadow0fd3ath24 I always liked my lc9s.i wonder if the thickness would make for a more comfortable grip.
Good to know. Thanks.
@@Rumpleskin just so you know, I put a hogue grip on my lc9s for that reason. And now that I have one, the Max 9 is about the same profile as my lc9s with that grip.
@@zholland93 yes sir...I bought my max 9 a couple of months ago. Came with a broke striker. But they fixed it...kind of pissed me off that they wouldn't send me the striker, I had send in the gun.
I am glad there is competition in budget guns. I can't buy every gun that comes along. Glad you give them an honest look. I got a G43 when they came out. Stuck there. Covid screwed everything up and gun purchasing is out the window (economics, supply, higher priorities etc. at my end).
James, good video. Thanks. Informative.
Already have a P90 and LCP II, so might as well. Kudos to Ruger for those sights, that and the price point sold me. Now to actually find one.
Señor Shorts, I don't really give a damn about weight, but since I'm seriously looking at this gun for my back up ankle carry the weight of the Max is a very important factor. Excellent review as usual. 🔫 🇺🇸
I now demand that the patented Jimmy "Booty-Shorts" Reeves "Mariachi Band Test" be conducted on all firearms from here on out.
Now you just need to find a shot-out M9 Beretta from the U.S. Army's Tanker arms room inventory to use as a baseline.
Thank you for the review. I'll be looking forward to your review of the long awaited 6 round cylinder .38 Special LCR @ 3".
Fabulous review, sir.
Might rattle but I bet it goes boom every time just as the others!!
The rattle test should be a new standard. Strong work James.
Excellent video well done
Maracas, best part of the video, you should open every video with the shaking the gun by your mic, so funny!
I have a feeling that the advisory against high pressure ammo is also a warranty issue
Ruger has always seemed to have a good bang for your buck gun. If it weren’t for the stupid take down with a tool shit and a few minor things then this would be at the top of my “guns to get” list
i take mine down without a tool easily. I can't understand why y'all find it so hard. I have sausage fingers, tight clipped nails and can have it open in 10 seconds easy.
@@MrFriesz how do you pull the pin out without a tool?
@@youngcowboy6594 You pull the mag out(none in chamber, this gun will fire) and snapped the trigger 1 Snap gate open w fingernail 2 lay gun pin down in left hand 3 grab handle w right hand 4 grip slide w index and thumb 5 shake the slide slightly and the pin falls in left hand, done. works great for me. you pulled the mag and snapped the trigger before. A lot easier than it sounds.
I use a shell casing just to pry it open just a hair and then I can easily pull it out-no scratches!
Installed the MCARBO trigger and spring kit into the Ca compliant Max 9. Works great.
The look is about like a scaled up LCP II - I love the look. If I hadn’t just bought and EC9S recently, (that I shoot better than the LC9S I had) I would probably buy one of these.
Loving the ruger max 9. One thing that too bothered me was the rattle. But what took that almost 100% away was upgrading the trigger. I noticed the default triggers safety was causing most of the noise when shaking the firearm. Upgrade that and you now have a 95% less rattling and quicker trigger pulling and reset high quality feeling firearm. Your welcome.
@@SoundsOfEarthNatureRelaxation galloway precision trigger
Thats my account. Just seen the comment.
Needing a tool to take it apart is the most Ruger thing about this gun
Haha so true. And so unnecessary.
I'm not sure if this is such a con to not buy it.
@@Super_Mario_Fpv there are so many other options in this space though, I’d rather buy a Sig, Glock, M&P or even a Hellcat before I’d buy a Ruger. But more power to you if that’s what you like, lots of great options right now.
You beat me to this comment lol.
Maybe it's like the LC9s Pro, press down the take down lever, rotate the pistol lever side down, then push back the slide a fraction of an inch. The pin should drop right out without use of a tool.
God I love your videos. You made me laugh so hard with the tamberine, the guitar and the serious look. I'm still chuckling. Now I've got to go back and start over from there.
Excellent narration of video
Stop telling people this..... Iam trying to buy one and it is sold out evrrywhere...... This isn't gonna help.... Lol smfh
The sccy cpx is a great conceal gun under 300$
I don't think Mister Shorts here is the reason you can't find one of these things...
Would like to see Kahr getting on board with the PM9
They won’t be able to compete. They would have to change their whole pricing structure.
@@hotrodglock true
Very good information and thorough.....sounds like a good carry within the parameters it is meant for which is a budget feature laden gun with night sights and optic ready. Thank You.
Great review on the max line considering buying it first-timer singing about Max 380 I have to decide thanks for the great review and you're funny too