2023 Gibson Kirk Hammett "Greeny" 1959 Les Paul Review - Demo - Compared to '50s Les Paul with PAFs
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- čas přidán 29. 03. 2023
- Just in at That Rhythm Man Guitars is this "Greeny" replica of the Les Paul named for the 1st major owner, the famed Peter Green, then Gary Moore, and now Kirk Hammett. In this video I review this example and demo it against a 1952-59 conversion (done by JamCity Guitars) with vintage original PAF humbuckers.
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Both great, thanks! The Greeny certainly takes me to some early Peter Green stuff, esp. middle & bridge. That said, I'll take the other one any day! I'm looking at buying a set of Monty's Bethnal Greens to put into a nice Epiphone LP Custom (The Wino - ebony fretboard etc) for my PG fix 😀
It amazes me that they go to the extent of all the wear of the nitro on the back of the guitar, and the wood underneath is completely smooth. Not a blemish. It's just soooo fake.
A little beer will fix that in no time!
The whole idea of replicas is fake tho who in thair right mind would pay for these?
@@conordyer2307 I've never been accused of being in my right mind and with that said I absolutely love relic guitars.
Relicing takes away the pain of that first (and subsequent) nicks in an otherwise brand new guitar. The bare wood is a fresh canvas for the owner. A very practical way to have the cake and eat it too.
Literally ordered the Greeny 2 days ago b/c I loved the out of phase, but honestly in this review the overall sound on the 50's PAF IMO sounds way better. 😢
I'm Still stoked to get my Greeny!!!
Thanks for posting the video. I have purchased a $20k version (for less) but it won't arrive for a few weeks so this gives me an idea of what to expect soundwise.
I hope yours plays as well as this one does and that the reflectors are both on the knobs. ;)
Absolutely no chance you got a ‘deal’ on one of these fella, full price and still count yourself lucky to get one such is the demand
@@honnaconna7312 well
I think it’s great that Gibson came up with these guitars. There will only be 1 Greeny. But at least (if you can afford one) you might as well go for it.
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I was lucky and snagged that head and the matching cab for next to nothing. It’s a great sounding amp. I just had a power tube fail, or the clean sounds probably would have been that amp.
@@ThatRhythmMan the clean sounds are great with those amps. They were always affordable on the used market. I have the 100watt super rocket version also.
Apologies if I missed it but which caps pots and pickups are in the replica? It has much better harmonic voicing on the bridge pickup; tail end of the zeppelin riff. Only could tell because this was such an excellent comparison video; top marks across the board 👏👏
As for the greeny, I’m excited for those who can afford it, but pretty disappointed with Gibson for holding back on so many other guitars whose pickups deserved to be voiced the same way. But hey maybe they’re learning too and just recently figured out the secret. I’d prefer to live in that world, which would be a lot easier if Gibson decides to sell the greeny pickups (and/or entire wire harness) separately.
If I decide to try my own greeny replica from a standard 50’s (faded or gloss) I’ll probably get the Sam Li version of the kossoff pickups from Throbak (currently in my R8 and they’re amazing) and flip the neck magnet myself.
Edit: maybe in a future vid we could see the control cavity of each guitar? 👏👏🫶
The 52/59 just has that correct hit on the bass and the treble, it's the one I wan't ...G...
Hi nice comparison on both guitars, definitely the conversion sounds just perfect, it’s got all the hallmarks of a 59 and seriously the Murphy Lab Greeny is it worth the $20.000 asking price when they can’t even get the 60s tone knob on a Greeny right. “WOW“ Okay no biggie however for such an expensive guitar, makes you think what else is missing…….
Well, it is the right knob. You can even see the bit of adhesive on top. The reflector part clearly fell off of it somewhere along the line.
A standard version comes out next month. Non aged for 3199. I just pre ordered it
@@christerrio8108 $3199?😱 is that all they are going to cost? Please tell me it does not have a long neck tenon, true ABR1 post's and Custom pu's? two months ago i bought a New 50's standard for $ 2800 and IF it turns out these non aged Greenie standards do have the long neck tenon, ABR1 mounting pot's and Custom pu's i am going to be one very depressed guitarist! The 50's standards have none of those features!
They both sound really good but the 52-59 conversion has a dynamic depth or dynamic range and a warmth that the newer guitar just doesn't have ..but I do think Gibson did a really good job .."IMO I think there should be more focus on true reverse engineering on the wiring harness , Abr1 w/ Zamac, fatter, short, wide saddles.. (like the originals)comprable true vintage style Central Labs potentiometers, as close as possible PAF pickups.. getting the capacitance correct like the originals etc..then we'd start getting much closer.. But, the Murphy Labs LP sounds great! Thanks for your work and nice job on the video 🎸🤟
The neck PAF on the 52 is amazing . The clarity is exceptional. It sounds like a slightly fatter bridge pickup. I have read many times the best sounding original Pafs in the neck position sounded like slightly fatter bridge pickups and that is what I hear in this video.
Gibson should put those greeny buckers in all their R8s R9s etc or make them an after market option or both.
The greeny bucker pickups are fantastic. Gibsons best modern take on the PAF i have heard so far . I hope they make them avaliable for after market Purchase in the near future.
You will always hear that when a new one comes out. The best companies can is marketing and promotion.And some people belief it.
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Appreciate the video, bit disappointed you didn't play a single peter green riff though 😂
Haha….me too!
Sounds identical to a vintage v100 GM
Yeah it looks awesome . I’m hoping Gibson does more USA or VOS Models from other favorite players in a price point like the last GREENY
Great demo. Just curious, is this one of the Brazilian rosewood boards?
The conversion is a 1952 Les Paul with original Brazilian board. The Greeny has an Indian rosewood board.
@@ThatRhythmMan The Greeny looks like the fretboard needs a nice drink
You are absolutely right.it’s quite dry.
No. This is the $20k one. Indian Rosewood board. You had to spend another $30k just for the fretboard 😂😂😂 it’s a gimmick. In a blindfold text you’d never pick this guitar out from another if both guitars had sane pickup.
Why does it have only 1 knob that's different? It should be two?
There actually are two that are different, but the reflector part is missing off the top of one. Gibson is sending a replacement.
I know Mr. Hammett is the current owner but his part in its history is miniscule. I don't know why he even gets a mention.
Metallica is great band. Best guitarist Hammett. best owner of the guitar yet. i remember him for the black album, massive chunk riffing, better remembering than gary moore.
He owns it and gave his permission to replicate it.
The guitar is what it is, who likes which rock star playing it is as individual as the person buying it.
Personally I admire all three prior owners.
Probably bias but the 52-59 sounds better from my speakers. If you have time can you make a "video" playing the two without showing us which is which, kind of want to see if we can correctly identify the guitars.
Great idea!
I believe Garry Moore broke the neck on greeny , so does the Murphy lab have a broke neck as well . Seems a bit extreme for the sake of accuracy
It has a simulated/cosmetic break, not a real break.
I think the conversion sounds sweeter, but the Greeny sounds a bit more nasty, in a good way.
the conversion gib has more smooth creamy tone in the neck and sounds overall more open. The new les pauls are always muddier in my opinion.
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greeny is brighter on my end , i prefer that , i'm sure some like a smokier tone like your conversion , regardless both sound great all be it overpriced in my eyes ....
The Greeny is brighter and yet somehow seems a bit less articulate at the same time.
52-59 sounds better to my ears
I think greeny sounds like a bit more life to it ,,,
The 50,000 looks more better and more closer to Kirks. The $20,000 guitar is eh, finish looks a bit too bright.
Too bad Gibson already made the replica of the Peter Green 59' Les Paul in the Collectors Choice series. I have one and it is fantastic. Doesn't really matter that Kirk Hammett owns it now. Just another chance for Gibson to make money on something they've already done.
Too bad for whom? 🤷♂️
The majority of purchasers of this guitar are bedroom warriors probably not even semi pro musicians. An outrageous indulgence when you consider what you can buy for a lot less money that will sound and look as good. How can those individuals justify the spend when you consider many of them will have far more important commitments and responsibilities. The guitar is nothing but a gross self-indulgence. Get real you aint never going to sound like Gary Moore or Peter Green what ever your guitar looks like folks even if you are an above average player!
Knobs are incorrect, should be 2 and 2, not 3 and 1
Watch the video. The knobs are correct, but one lost its reflector.
It’s wood and wire ffs! Gibson & Fender laughing all the way to the bank, again! The codshite they turn out, Custom Shop and Master Built an absolute dream of a marketing snare for those with more money than sense.
It's not a kirk, it's not a green. It's a fucking GARY MOORE . End off
The official name has Kirk Hammett in it for licensing purposes. Gibson’s deal, not mine.
John McCullim sorry to tell you but, it’s actually called the Greeny Moore Les Paul for a reason.
Agreed! The way Gary Moore made the original growl and cry is unreal!
20 Large for the guitar and Gibson doesn't even get the knobs right. How embarrassing. What kind of bush league quality control is that? My God
The knobs were actually correct. One was just defective. The reflector fell off. Gibson corrected the issue right away. It was a pretty small issue that really couldn’t have been foreseen.
Greeny overdriven 52 clean.
there isnt a much difference between the two. but my ears feeling the difference on greeny.