My Experience at the Florence Academy of Art
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- Honestly, I think it's a great school. But yeah, these are my experiences...some are, you know...but I don't mean any harm! Hope you enjoy!!
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I don't know what was funnier: the stories you told or watching you immediately backpeddle as fast as possible 😂
All of it is just comedy gold
This was hilarious. I had you playing as I painted in my studio and I felt like you were in the room having a yarn. A mix of technique and story telling. Brilliant. Please do more.
An hour and a half to paint a cheekbone. Okay, thanks, you make me feel better about my speed, or lack thereof. Granted, your painting is IMMENSELY more detailed and realistic than anything I've ever done. Thanks for the video!
Mad jelly
dude realism painting needs time, its not a sketch
@@wrongbutnotaliar5606 helli jelly
Talent 110% humility 120% to be able to talk and do such great work- real professional and entertaining/ thank you 🙏
Love all your content. I started using your portrait palette and it was a game changer for me. Thanks for sharing!
i watched all your videos,
you are the greatest portrait painter available on yt,
and your technique is superb,
you certainly one of the best living painters in the world.
that being said, i can only wish for you to believe in yourself and
in your right to say whatever you damn please,
and not be concerned what someone of your contemporaries might feel as the result,
because what is the worst that might happen,
and because you belong to the eternity.
That was very enjoyable and pleasing to watch. We definitely need more of these!
I always looked at the Florence Academy of Art in awe as being the cream of the crop so it's been really fun to hear your stories. Also I'm the same with silences..just come out with total gibberish 😆 Thanks for a great video Scott and well done on the painting 👍👏
omg ive never laughed so hard from hearing someone on YT. Seriously, I needed that laugh, and i would have happily listened five hours more. Your voice and stories are very conforting!! Hope you do more of these in the future...
That was so much fun! Please do more!
Loved it Scott, I was LOL when you mentioned Kramer, thank you so much for sharing
I love this format, podcast + painting. Spill the tea
The difference between street artist and fine artist is clear when I watch presentations such as this. Thanks for the insight.
go on then.
I really enjoyed your ramble, I got into doing more work on my painting, and it was great to listen to and work; thank you.
Scott you crack me up!! Talk about major and much needed comic relief in the arena of seriousness! I told my Students at the University I teach at several of the quotes.
That's one of the funniest videos I've seen in years; thank you I needed that,also a great art video with many understandable interruptions
Thanks for spilling all the hot tea about the Florence Academy, Scott, the video came at a perfect time as I've been considering taking an intensive month at the Angel Academy and I watched your talk til the end whilst painting as well. It's interesting to hear about the beginnings of a lot of artists who are now well known, Jordan Sokol's work is also incredible.
Jura Bedic steal teaches, but perhaps just workshops. Last September he did a guest workshop at the Vienna Atelier of Traditional Art, I missed out on that but attended a Patrick Byrnes weekend instead. I really wish I had discovered the atelier method a decade ago, I attended an art school in Toronto where everything is so open and self-taught almost, whereas it seems like the Florence method is too strict. I'll reach a happy medium once I've experienced both, I'm sure.
How did the Angel work out?
So brilliant. I was literally in stitches by the toothbrush bristles. Your work is great too.
Thanks for all of your terrific videos; so informative. Newbie comment: I recently spent two months at the Academia d’Giglio in Florence (Conan O’Brian made a segment about this school). As my first real formal training (ergo, the school might not be appropriate for people at your level), it was an excellent learning environment and experience. In general, I believe it was less-“academic” than you describe at FAA; they taught me the same process you use (drawing - transfer - underpainting…) based on classical paintings, but after completing a few (Caravaggio, etc), let me veer off into copying modern figurative work. We did have a life drawing session one afternoon a week, which was fantastic, and lead me to clearly understand the fundamental importance and joy of drawing (no sight-size!) . For an early-stage painter with millions of questions, I’d say the program is unpretentious, serious, collegial, highly-skilled, supportive without taking over, English-speaking. It’s right around the corner from the Bargello, and the other students were international, fun, serious, and talented. Enjoy.
You are hilarious!!!! Art School is a trip I literally wanted to throw myself into traffic most of the time. This brings back so much memories. Thank you!
Omg your story is so hilarious. Remind me of my two weeks in a Rome. The Italians were very nice but they were always correcting my Italian. I also got locked out of my apartment and had to wait for someone to rescue me too. Thanks for reminding me of my experience.
Lmao this is like the realist art comedy show. so good LOL. please keep making them
This was so great! You have to keep doing painting/story time. I would binge watch that stuff.
Yay for Charles win last weekend in Monaco.. happily surprised to see a fellow artist and American who is an F1 fan. Love your work and this particular painting
watched the whole vid.. loved it. Thanks for sharing
Love to hear your experiences, never talk about this! I never was in Florence but I can complety emphatize and imagine your experience and reactions. For some reasons I always imagine it like you describe it! thanks god I choose GCA. Some day would love to hear when you arrive to Jacob Collins and Watter Street Atelier
You studied wtih jacob in the middle and the come back to florence?
You are an excellent artist. Wish you success all the years to come👏👏👏🤩
Loooooooooooveee this video!!!!! Very funny, entertaining and informative. Plus a talented Artists who's working semi-live ish...🙃!! So far one of my favourite vid on CZcams! Every time I'll head a name "Hamlet", "Thor" or "Loki" my mind will run to pick in the storage the contents of your video, I know for sure. Thanks for sharing 🖖🏻
LOVED the gossip! I admire your work. Also Jordon's.
Wow. I just wanna say I can totally get how you felt it just shows how strong you were to stay true to your own ability in your Art
Very high artistic skill level coupled with a masters in sarcasm , must be a New yorka.
Good stuff bro
huge f1 fan! and hes been great this year, love charles
Love these videos (and don't skimp on the F1 talk!). What I like about you is that you're very down to earth with your work and experiences. What's always put me off 'art' is how exclusive and arrogant people talk about it. I didn't want to be part of that 'scene' but love classical art, so you're an inspiring example of how the two characteristics can combine perfectly. It's given me the confidence to remain true to myself as a person but also my creative interest. In September I will be starting a course to become an art teacher and ill be sure to reference your lessons forward in my future. Thank you so much Scott. Greetings from a Brit in Holland!
PS. Max verstappen fan!!
Havent laughed this much about a video for years! Thanks. Love your sense of humor! Your painting is awesome! Sorry that the class in Bruges is full otherwise i would have attended
Favorite video on the internet...got all my art friends to watch it😂
"Universities sell you a dream at the cost of your future."
Such great humour 🤣 I did a summer month at the Florence academy. Sight size is way too regimented for me. Spent the first evening in tears but managed to gather myself for the rest of the time. Def saved a lot of money on the years of bargues.
I love this!!
I didn’t watch the last “Scott Waddell experience podcast”(lol) but I loved this. I’m actually currently enrolled in Lyme Academy studying under Jordan Sokol and they are amazing but I’m in love with the GCA aesthetics. I guess I got the answer within the video but would you recommend going to GCA now even though it has changed from when you taught there.
Thanks for these videos Scott. Any chance you can share some thoughts on glazing techniques?
I’m a student at the central academy of fine arts, which is the chinese version of FA, but we seem to have a lot more freedom in drawing method. Your video was hilarious and I watched the whole thing
Love the story times man 😂
As far as lent free paper towels you may want to try your Automotive section they have blue towels that have a lot less lint on them because they're partially made of cotton and not just paper
You are funny as hell bro. I applied to FAA was told i “was on the top portion of the wait list”…..🤣thinking it over the last 6 months while continuing my intense drawing practice, sight-size is not for me as well. Probably all in the best for me. I will get there. Wherever that might be… Will be in Florence with my wife this November-December, taking drawing/anatomy classes (not at FAA)..Enjoy your videos.
No your the best painter I ever seen on video, and well explain
I'll defend sight size: it's a pain in the back, but it makes easier to correct errors. Honestly after doing some bargues and some sight size cast drawing/painting, I feel I improved a lot, then again maybe you don't need to do a thousands of that.
What if you to draw the Eiffel tower? Are you going to install it in your studio? And step miles back to have it to scale? Nothing beats comparative measurement.
@@spartan3460 well, actually landscapes are easy to make 1:1 but that is beyond the point, sight size is a learning tool to spot errors, a drill, once you become more precise you can go back to comparative measurement.
@@astrol4b What do you think comparative measurement is ? It's purpose is to spot errors before you commit to the drawing. In fact, you presume you are wrong intially until you check the height to width, midpoint and compare distances etc. Comparative measurement is a tool to train your eyes to shapes, gesture and proportion. Once you check your measurements and the block in is correct you model form.No need to defend sight size, as many roads lead to Rome If sight size works for you and gives you great results, awesome. At the end of the day it's all about the finished product.
Great balance of gossips and educational material for that special episode ;-)
I had romanticized being taught at Florence academy for years until I realised how much they relied on Bargue drawings and sight size.
😂😂😂 Your honesty telling these stories makes them brilliant and funny! From an ex-FAA grad.
I love art and f1 so this is perfect
Hi Scott. Nice stories, but I want to learn to paint portraits. Interesting how you get almost finished with first covering. Can you vocalize your thought process while you apply paint across the face. How are your changing the hue as you progess? I see you mix values into your base. Your results are incredible. How do you get such a good value representation on first go around? What is your strategy, ,,,using planes of the face? As an advanced beginner, i’m ready for hearing this info and am anxious to apply it. Curious, do you think of tiles of color?
You could do stand-up son. You’re a natural!
LOL You remind me of Ryan Reynolds whenever you talk! Always funny but meaningful at the same time 🙂 I wish I have discovered your channel much earlier!
P.S. I also love Bouguereau and Alex Venezia, I don't know if I could ever paint like them in my lifetime though! But I appreciate you sharing that we're not alone in feeling insecure about those amazing artists, even you that's been a remarkable artist yourself could feel that way still. It takes off a huge baggage of bad feelings about oneself.
Thank you so much for sharing your stories can't wait to hear more of those!🙂🙏🌸
did you study in an atelier too ?
I made it to the end. In 2003 I think I was in 4th or 5th grade. I hope you do more of these they are fun to watch.
Hi! Love your commentary, have followed you for years and would like your advice on choosing a very stable easel; it came to mind when you were geting yours straightened out. Can you give me me a name of a floor easel that will take most sizes of prestretched canvases? Thanks for any help.
Scott!! Hey, I studied physics and mathematics, occasionally i invest mysellf in painting. Boy was I really entertained to know how Art school Environment can be like for I wanted to study arts in College. Thanks I certainly laughed a lot with all the pretentious Ramiro things. and your "misfortunes"
Don't let people who take themselves too seriously to ever shut your voice.
If, by any chance you happen to read this could you facilitate any bibliography concerning to your insights on light effects (Diffusive transmission, diffusive reflection, etc) that you mention on your "Webbisode 6"'?
Thank you I admire and look up to your Meisterwerke
So, what best advice would you give for those who want to learn classical realist art ? Go to a traditional art school like FAOA or another, or entirely something else 😂😄? The price of this academy seems rly bonkers so if I could learn alot without paying thousands.
Shop rags(made from paper but are cloth-like) or Viva paper towels are great to use with oil painting.
Hello Sir, I want to buy Raw umber of winsor and newton, they have two, one raw umber and other raw umber green shade which one I have to buy...
Can someone tell me what color he used for the eye? It looks blue but I’m not sure what hue is it
You're a riot. I love these videos. You're an incredible artist, with a strange but effective method. Thank you for describing your experience. I've lamented the fact that I cannot attend an atelier, but as you describe it, I don't think I'd fit in either. I need comedy to escape my crippling depression. I don't think that environment would be a good fit for me, lmao
P.S. I love Cesar Santos. His stuff is awesome. You're just as great, just different. You're both idols of mine in regards to realist painters. I can't comprehend how someone of your calibur could ever question their - validness?? Idk how to explain it. It blows my mind that you could ever feel any cringyness in that regard. People that wouldn't name you simply are not familiar with you. Otherwise you're an automatic pick! I love how down to earth and, like, accessible you feel. It makes me feel so much better on my journey. It makes me feel like even a goofball like me can aspire to greatness and maybe achieve something close to it. No offense intended. I adore your personality! Thank you so much for your videos. You're so freaking awesome ♡♡♡
Ditto. I also wanted to attend Florence Academy years ago. After hearing Scott’s experience, I wouldn’t fit in either. I absolutely need to be around people with a sense of humor. The Bargue method is actually only recent. The book was written over a hundred years ago. The lessons have helped me like the blocking in. Best wishes in your art journey
@@pamj7823 thank you so much! Same to you ☺
At 27:07, what is the name of the director of the academy? Couldn't quite make it out.
You are a great painter. I watch most if not all of your videos. But, I am an old, old guy. I fear, one of these days, I will kick-off here in front of my screen, (not in-front of my easel ), while listening to you roll your yarns ..... OK, thanks for your good work.
You just paint one layer? Do you add any medium, and if so, what please? :)
Hey necesito los subtítulos ya que tengo una deficiencia auditiva. Por qué no están como opción para activar?
Me parece muy mal .
The most important thing that any Artist can ever do is to leave art school.If you hang around you will be deminished as an individual artist.The purpose of painting is to express yourself,that is what Rembrandt did and his students mostly did not learn this lesson.
Hello , You use seven colors in your palette and by combining them you can draw skin color or anything, what colors and what brand of paint do you use.
I didn't watch your video becaue it's too long LOL but based on the comments it seems it contains negative opinion on sight-size, true the FAA does teach sight size for good and bad, but in terms of how it looks at the figure (shapes etc) and approach to painting it does use methods that are similar to 19th century atelier and because of its heavy reliance on anatomy it to some degree teaches the students to read old masterworks... while GCA achieves some other things its teaching approach is not perfect either, ex. how it teaches the student to 'scan' a small portion little by little like a scanning machine. That's why you end up with a 'photographic' result like your (Scott) own artworks. I could say more but.... I've stared too long at old master works to know that none of the schools today teach traditional methods perfectly. Any current school saying they're better than the other is just lame. Schools today teach a little piece of truth here or there but not fully. They just thought things differently back in ancient times. Not one school has all the light and even the teachers, or 'gurus' on youtube, judging by their works have not come close. Michelangelo understood the design of the figure, and he portrayed the design as if he created that figure. He portrays characteristics and his understanding of the design and that's how his work has so much power because it is high level intelligent. It's far removed from any of the ateliers today who all teach to copy details in one way or the other. Old masterworks are beyond copies. It's going to take some genius who is in the same wavelength of how the ancients think to restore all the ancient secrets. Anyway this comment is no disrespect to Scott I appreciate you sharing your knowledge on youtube and do admire your skill, I'm just sharing my 2 cents.
I really _really_ hate it when teachers 'take over' the drawing or painting. I mean, if they do workshops you already get to see how they draw / paint. It is just bad teaching to not allow a student to fix their own mistakes. They can point to the problem, but they shouldn't fix it for you.
It kind of depends. The reason I generally agree with you is that virtually all teachers are really not that good and would only ruin your artwork. That happened to me back in high school art classes. Now my artworks are in museums, and it still bothers me to think back to those useless corrections which tried to steer me in a false direction.
On the other hand, I love the stories about Rembrandt as a teacher. He saw instantly how a student drawing could be improved. They may have worked many hours on it, but the Master sees it, grabs the brush, and within just a few seconds the art is vastly improved. Many of these corrected drawings are now quite valuable because they contain the genius corrections of the Master. Otherwise they would have been tossed out centuries ago. I love to see these corrected drawings because we get to realize what structural weaknesses the student art had before he "fixed" them. Sadly, none of us have Rembrandt as a teacher.
@@KpxUrz5745 Yeah that makes sense. However, strictly from the perspective of learning (faster), it would still be best to make the correction yourself. I personally do not quite believe in the 'perfect' brush stroke in a medium that allows you to just correct the whole thing. I also think there are quite a few fakes or apprentice paintings attributed to Rembrandt, that are very well done floating around. It might not always be the romanticised explanation that is the most plausible. A lot of stories or dare I say myths about Rembrandt have all come from hearsay sources decades or more later. For example, how his students trolled him painting gold or silver coins on the floor to trick his greed into trying to pick up a non-existent coin. He even got mocked by his contemporaries for keeping his figures dressed in clothes and covered in darkness as to cover up his 'poor' drawing skills. Obviously nonsense from direct competitors, but all I mean to imply is how we probably shouldn't take any of the hearsay as fact.
@@PHeMoX I've seen in person quite a few works by students of Rembrandt, and in some it is perfectly evident that Rembrandt "corrected" the drawing or wash drawing by quickly adding a few master strokes. There can be no doubt in some of these cases that the Master provided fast and superb improvements in only a few quick strokes. And the improvement is like night and day. I am not speaking of rumors and stories, just proof I've seen first hand. I am familiar with the fact that over time many works go back and forth as far as official attribution. Many tried to immitate but no one has ever succeeded at achieving Rembrandt's genius draftsmanship.
Hey Scott! What's the URL of that scam site you mentioned? My googling skills failed me on that one.
BTW, "Booger-oh" is "take a shot" in my art video drinking game. Thanks, I'm hammered now.
One of the best (podcast i'm refering to)
I attended some atelier classes somewhere else and I had a really similar experience. I told them I had learnt from videos until then, which was apparently the most offensive thing I could have said. The mood was sterile which made me not go back. Im glad im not the only one who cant create in that enviroment
Yes because videos are often better than those teachers lol.
It's not the vibe of people that do well in bureaucratic office necessarily, from what I've experienced from studying in a serious art college, the serious vibe comes from people who just exist for art, and are very passionate about Art. Live, eat and breathe Art. That is their passion and their reason for existence. in Addition, they take themselves very seriously.
Hi Scott..I always enjoy your videos..and your story’s!🙃 ,btw. Jordan Sokol…wonderful painter ..with a very Croatian name..Sokol..is he by any chance from Croatian descent..?Do you know ..?Greetings from Croatia..❤
surprised to see this on my youtube feed since I'm usually searching for avian dinosaurs... but I remember meeting you briefly in the art warehouse at FSU, my husband and I (at FSU in the seventies) suspected you were having a hard time, they didn't think much of representational work but your natural talent was over the moon. I always mourned my lack of art schooling, no instructor ever picked up a brush back then and there were no videos so everyone was necessarily self taught. Your remembrances of the classic training makes me less sorry! I wouldn't have made it a week.
I studied in Italy, learned Italian with a 3 month class before, and spoke italian the entire time. You have to just tell them you're learning, be humble and ask for tips, they love that i tried and became rather fluent over 4 months, not a difficult language. Having a Professor who is a native to Rome, helped, and immersing myself in it and wanting to practice. Few gave me the side eye, but if i deserved it, was a learnign opportunity. I don't take myself too seriously either. So that helps. Just mind the pickpockets and thieves, and be adventerous and friendly, inquisitive.
Hahaha… awesome video!!!
hahaha omg these stories are so funny.. very cinematic story telling
Hello, it would be nice to have the possibility of translation on these great videos Thank you
I met a lot of eccentric people when I hung out with fine artists at uni. I wonder if there’s a reason for that… the chemicals we use or eccentrics are creative or something else…
I love your stories, you’re very funny.
It's 3 in the morning as I am watching you paint and I have to say I am really enjoying listening to you talk about your experiences. I just cannot stop playing your video - you are entertaining to listen to.
Regarding sight-size method, I hate it! I consider it a stupid method of drawing or painting! I don't believe in it, at all. It is a too rigid and restricted form of drawing and painting. I have more respect for artists who train themselves to draw and paint naturally by eye wherever they sit or do comparative measurement in a more loose and relaxed method than by rigidly standing behind a stupid line holding a stupid plumbline. I am so glad I never went to the Florence Academy or to any other academy that may be similar to it. It sounds like a pretentious and pompous environment which I would not care for.
This was an enjoyable and entertaining video. Many thanks.
You know what's worse than doing things in style without humor? Doing things poorly without humor. It's a double whammy.
Don’t you think it’s amazing what our Max Verstappen has accomplished 👏
Love your videos!
What do you call this technique? Is it some form of Alla prima? Or some version of it? You keep painting inch by inch and I have no idea how you get your values and colors right without working entire piece at the same time.
Yea it’s a strange technique for sure, almost as if he’s painting like a printer or something . Great paintings though
it‘s called window shading and direct form of painting :)
hard to find information about it tho.
I like in all knowledge in all arts , artworld,, design art,, master me ,, sculpting,,,
The street name of the studio is Via Bandiera.
Can you talk about your experience at other ateliers?
Step aside, Bob Ross, because this was comedy GOLD!!
I wasn't familiar with Charles Leclerc, so I looked him up, and I think I might have found the photo you were using as a reference. The photo seems to have been taken by Mark Sutton. Not that it matters, though, if you're just painting it for yourself. But thought I'd comment since I didn't see anyone else mention the name. ^_^
I miss Andy after you doing his voice 😂 the Golden Gate Atelier is in Oakland.
Wondering what were the takeaways from Florence that you actually retained to influence the method that you use today? Also curious what you did in between FAA and teaching at Grand Central?
You are THE modern day Bouguereau in my eyes 😍
Definitely got some things out of this video, including watching you posting the blog on the cheek. Thanks again
What's the difference between Angel academy of art and Florence? Are they all anal retentive about sight size and Barque plates?
At the Angel Academy, we are much more friendly, and teach the 19th-century way, which is to say we use sight-size much less than at the Florence Academy. Our emphasis is on teaching the student how to look at their model and ask, "How can I make a picture-a design, a composition, a painting-out of this?" Form modelling is important, and we teach it extremely well-it's difficult to learn-but it is composition that makes or breaks the painting.
Sight-size was NOT used in the 19th-century classrooms; there are hundreds of photos and paintings of the studios in action, and nobody is using sight-size. Sight-size is useful only in working from the plaster cast as it teaches the student to see the nuances of value shifts that create the illusion of form. It inhibits the student from learning how to design a painting, how to use gesture and Colour Surprise to make one's painting great.
Aqui no Brasil, as legendas deste vídeo estão indisponíveis. 2022!
Great video 😂
I saw Jordan Sokol's paintings and youre right, they're great, but yours are right up there with his. I'm glad you realized that school's style wasn't working for you and that you had the inner strength to develop your own. I'm surprised they were so confining. Also, I think the culture in Italy is different. I heard that they may communicate by yelling, but it doesn't really mean that they're mad at you. That's just the way they communicate.
Yes here in Balkans too, its not yelling
The one eyed moment made me laugh😆👌🏻
Has anybody attended the Florence Classical Academy of art? Russian and Italian painters professors teaching there, it seems the same but the approach to students is great, and a bit cheaper maybe. It's my ultimate wish, please if someone have any experience studying there let me know, and thank you.
i laughed so hard at the one eye story, jesus
I wish you topic was on instructions on what you're painting
Viva paper towels are super thick like a cloth rag, no lint at all. Fun fact, Loki's real name was mentioned when Scott told this story on Suggested Donation.
Love Suggested Donation!
@@pamj7823 Everyone does! They interviewed my first teacher, Carl Dobsky.
39 minutes into this and just chuckling at the stories 🤣while painting nude people.
Someone should do a sit com based on a guy who wins a space in an altilier, gets there all full of hope and then realised how nuts it actually is.