These Price Are CRAZY! Will Collectors Crash and Burn?
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- čas přidán 10. 05. 2024
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Started collecting cards after a 25+ year absence. And after 5 months I'm out. The return on investment is absurd. 350$ hobby box for a $45 card. 99.99% garbage base and insert cards.
Can’t blame you… the market was great 2012-2021… it’s an ok time to buy singles, but wax/breaks is awful on average.
My personal favorites are sticker autos and non-game used memorabilia on premium sets or chase cards. That's if the big names even signed with that company lol. I've never understood the point of some random jersey they bought and cut up to put in a card. Maybe a guy wore it for 2 seconds at best. How special. And the sticker auto that hopefully he actually signed himself. The athlete prob ran through a thousand of them and resented every second of the process. Then they slapped that baby on some card that wasn't within 2000 miles of him. How special for the card owner. And don't get me started on the parallels lmao. Just print however many variants they feel like and stamp a random number on the back. Now you have a hit card lol. How is this hobby real? I don't understand. I grew up loving pictures of men so I'm not dissing the collector. Just it's completely out of hand and full of crap.
Been collecting again after a long time. Unless you have time, flipping or selling singles is hard. Best option is buy cases and hold them. IMO.
Hobby boxes are a massive rip off. Totally agree with you but any collector just gets the stuff they want. I don't open anything..,
@mjh8492 whoooa bro... you grew up enjoying pictures of men??? Wtf did you just admit to us!?!?! 😂
Larry Bird……Magic Johnson, Dan Marino should be $10,000 but NOOOOOOOO……we have Kenny Pickett, Victor Webanyama etc…..worth TENS OF THOUSANDS. IT IS COMPLETELY BACKWARDS!
Why spend tens of thousands on athletes that have done “NOTHING”…..WHY? We spend $150.00 on a Dan Marino Auto, no, he never won a SuperBowl, yet he’s one of the top 5-10 Quarterbacks of all time. The same with Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera etc etc etc……It’s so stupid, it’s actually PATHETIC! I’m sorry, but these guys have screwed the Hobby! Yes……SCREWED THE HOBBY! SORRY!
Bro victor deserves it he’s the best center the nba has EVER SEEN??!! I agree on Kenny but Vic? He’s truly gifted
I couldnt agree more! But hey! Let those idiots keep buying up prospects. We will keep buying up the HOF'ers and then in the end WE WILL BE THE ONES LAUGHING.
@@FBGCUZZO when he does something in the NBA, I’ll apologize, until then NO WAY!
You are absolutely correct. Hype and prospecting is triumphing over prestige and actual success in a sport.
@@FBGCUZZOhe hasn't even finished his FIRST SEASON... slow your roll on calling him better than Kareem, Wilt, Hakeem, Shaq, etc
No way, not in the first round 😂. That aged well!
Wemby has the benefit also that he plays for a franchise with a track record of creating winners when they have his talent level. They are the best franchise for a player of his skill level to go and develop into great player. When you see what the Spurs have done with Manu, Tony, Tim and D. Robinson, and Kawhi, you know they can combine to create greatness.
Jordan, Magic, Bird, Dr.J, every dream team member, Griffey, Bo Jackson, Barry Sanders, cards straight from pack penny sleeved and top loaded since the 80s 90s = $20.... Brand new rookies that have done nothing from boxes that cost a home mortgage payment = $30,000... I'm not sure what planet I'm on anymore 😢 and who are these kids and teenagers that can afford these boxes and just rip all day....?? I DON'T UNDERSTAND
Yes!!!! That's the part that gets me. How in Da Hell can they afford the product 😂
Im a hockey guy, I just bought a Nik Lidstrom PSA 9 Rookie for about $23. I also bought a raw Evan Bouchard rookie recently, that set me back $33. The difference is that Lidstrom is probably the second best dman of all time, and Bouchard is a 23 year old with one good year under his belt.
My PSA 10 Pop 1 1997 Bowman Griffey Jr Refractor just got to PWCC today for a weekly auction. First time trying this.. Wish Me Luck !! Atomic is Pop 13, but the regular refractor is only Pop 1 😊
Man, all I've got is $200, but I'm thinking that's not going to get it done.
@dh31409 man.m, don't get me wrong but Ii hope it doesn't lol 😆
Hope you bring down the house with that card brother!!
@user-qp2uw2im5n thanks man, I gotten some negative comments about sending it to PWCC but I'm gonna be optimistic.
@@garretthoefer3989 always gonna be haters. Sure, PWCC,Goldin etc. etc. gonna get their cut but it’s a business and I have never personally sold anything through them but your card should get a lot of eyeballs on there. I hope and I really think that you will do good dealing with them, Good luck man!
Aged well how Kentucky lost first round
Not even put a dollar in wemby. Too soon and his height is scaring me.
Amazing it takes this long for this guy to finally admit that prices are inflated and out of control.
He buys massive amounts of views too....every upload. Then tries to call himself a Sports card Investor. This guy is a JACK ASS
He wants cheap wembys.
When I saw the video and heard how Kentucky couldn't lose in the first round, I hope all sharp objects have been removed.
LMFAO.... KENTUCKY gets bounced in the first round!!!!!!!!! Already ordered my Golden Grizzlies Merch
I was looking for this comment. I won’t pile on.
@@greg3072 .. and Florida 🤣😅😂
I will 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Famous last words….no chance we lose 1st round - never say never with Cal ( one of worst X & O’s coach in college basketball🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Kentucky not getting upset comment did not age well. I had them winning it all in my bracket 😂😂
I'm surprised they didn't talk about the record crash of Mac Jones cards as a lesson in the absurdity of paying such high prices for unproven players
The main thing Geoff should be concerned about crashing and burning is Cards HQ, there is barely anyone in there ever
Well, I would imagine that it’s different from like a normal store that relies on a lot of people buying a cheap product, every time someone walks into that store they’re spending a couple hundred dollars and they have the occasional person that spends a couple thousand dollars, plus all the online stuff, I imagine it’s kind of like a jewelry store where there’s always like five people standing around, but only takes one or two sales a day to pay off daily expenses, everything after that is money in the bank
Just random thought
Probably not recording during prime time. Also, you in there every day watching traffic? 😂
@@Seanreid209going by some of the videos on their channel and others there are a lot of cheap slabs in those stupid "custom and revolutionary cases"
@@ThiKuYou can tell by scrolling through their live stream, most the time just rando workers passing the camera view.
Agreed. Its tough to watch every video to an empty store. Put the old background set back. It was way better. This just looks like three guys in a side room of a library.
Wemby has a long long way to go to surpass Tim Duncan. Paying $1.5M for a Wemby 1/1 is absurd. I don't ever recall a Duncan 1/1 ever sold close to that.
I agree with what ur saying but you also have to look at the market now vs cards then
thing is the person who bought this is filthy rich. They dont need to invest in anything when they have this much to blow.
Kurts card lube on the Julio gum card 😬
@@TaterPvPI keep hearing this, as if it is some kind of excuse. No matter how much money you have, lighting money on fire is not a good thing (you can give it to someone who needs it more)
That’s not your decision. Rich people are still allowed to spend their money as they see fit.
That over $5000+ in card sales is an OUSTANDING data point. That specific range might be worth tracking over time. Actually, it feels like Wemby is in line in that is the most hyped rookie since LeBron. I know that Olympics means almost nothing in the card market, but with the Olympics in Paris, Wembanyama might become the most visible athlete in the world for a few week.
For me, Prizm NBA is probably the best card for 2024 Basketball and therefore the one I will invest the most. I am NOT excited about NT or Flawless with "NO SIGNATURE" cards. Little interest in Select and probably more in Optic Rated Rookie Color, but I think this is why Prizm and Wemby are doing we well. He draft cards are down if I am no mistaken.
Wembanyama is a freak of nature. Look at his blocks already and just draining 3's ...he's awesome
Chet is better
@@corystanberry685France is excellent basketball 🏀
Chet is better😊
You wish, did you see them play each other. Cuz wamby kick his assss
Blocks he gets just standing there?
"a fool and his money are soon parted"
Sorry bro…Kentucky did fall in the first round. OUCH!
Honestly though, the only thing that could stop Wembanyama from being an all-time great, and I do mean the ONLY THING, would be a catastrophic injury
Wemby is looking unreal, but the bubble has to burst at some point.
Kentucky falls in Round 1! Ouch!
Down goes Kentucky! 😅
Kentucky choked again
Wemby is an enigma, and demigod, and deserves hype. Have you guys even watched any games?😂 Dude's unlike ANYBODY to ever play. PERIOD!
He is doing great for his first year and is only going to continue to get better. Also he has already broke records on his first year.
About to grade 100+ Chrome Stock Wemby's in a few days. I'm still debating which company to use. Any suggestions?
Totally agree that gum needs to be reintroduced into low-end sets, I put rubble bubble in every one of my repacks currently!
Card collectors are all about QBs because of the high percentage of new collectors and fans mostly knowing only knowing those names...
Wemablama is the tall basketball guy
Are you guys going to start posting cards on ebay for me to bid on since I dont like using the whatnot crap app?
People are crazy😂 people-money sometimes Not a good combination😂😂😂😂
It's sad for me to see that card collecting has gone this far. When I grew up in the 60's and I traded many Mickey mantles for a Frank Howard just because I was a senators fan. I feel this is one for the kids
I'm glad this came about the thing is there's so many ways to make money off a Wembanyama card not to b greedy let's just see a base Wembanyama prizim there's yet to have uplisted a Black Label grade*that alone is a approach to come about on a $76 $100 upgraded*so yeah let things bloom that's the card business live and learn.
That Kentucky didn’t age well
His cards are already priced as though he is an all time great. We've already hit the ceiling and the dude has not even finished his first season. The same people were jumping on Mac Jones and Zion . I think Wemby has potential to be great, but there are basically 2 results. He becomes 1 of the top 5 players in history and proces stay same or he doesnt and they drop. I dont see any scenario where prices increase. Same thing with Caitlin Clark and all the other rooks getting there 15 minutes of fame .
Pricing isn't based off of what a player has accomplished over a period of time or years down the road if they've amassed enough stats and legacy to make the hall of fame anymore. That's not what sets the price anymore. What sets the price is how hot they are, what they've accomplished during their rookie season, and their potential for greatness. For example Pacheco base prizm rookie cards were selling for like anywhere between 80 to 100 plus in 2022 and very early on in 2023 which is crazy. I've seen a tommy devito sage "rookie" card sell for 50 dollars! during his little three game streak when tommy cutlets was born lol Joe Burrow, Herbert, and Trevor Lawrence cards used to sell for bukoos of money and now they are usually pretty affordable. Hell look at Deshaun Watson now. You can get his silver prizm rookie card with 9.5 bgs or psa 10 grade for a little over 100 dollars if you're looking hard enough and I'm of the belief that Deshaun will eventually bounce back in a HUGE way and I believe that's gonna happen in the 2024 season. But yeah it's what's hot, hot is king.
I love how rich people need to prove it 😅
Great info on quarterbacks!
No. Well not until my card gets back graded and sold on eBay. Then yeah, Let it crash.
Idk last time I took your advice I took a huge loss on Desmond Ridder and Will Grier
With a name like "Big Fungus" and then just HAD to add the random "12" lol
Yeah, Im not surprised you're not making the right choices.
Hopefully you get the courage to come out of the shadows and be a real person one day. 😜
OAKLAND!!! 😆 Gotta love March Madness upsets 🙃
Any ultra modern I hope people are buying into HOF players with that $, no wemby is gonna go for a million,
Love these segment so much information to learn…..thank you
Ain’t getting your boy cutting down any nets lol uk gets beat by who I forgot lol
VW's card prices are out of control, and I am just sitting back watching people waste their hard earned money on this insane wave of pricing. Look at how much Zion's card were when he was a rookie, its the same thing happening again. Now Zion's cards are pennies on the dollar. Stop jumping on the hype train people and save your hard earned money and wait, and I am almost guaranteeing that VW's pricing will be down big down in the future.
Topps Heritage had gum for the first few years and it was in plastic and was soft.
Geoff!!! Seriously u need to cut out those thumbnails 😂😂😂!!!
Still blows my mind how terrible the Spurs are as a team
It’s on purpose broseph. Pop plays chess while all you peasants talk checkers @tylermarley9159
There's a reason they had the #1 pick to get him . He only plays 28 mins a night as well.
You could get burned if you’re just now buying Wemby cards but if u know basketball like I know basketball and how to prospect than u won’t get burned because u bought into him early like I did.
Wemby was hyped from the start, there was no buying in early, the hype train started super early with him. His stuff was expensive from the get go
There was a dip I bought into him after the first few weeks of the NBA season when he wasn’t playing that good. All of the cards I got doubled at least. Jalen Brunson was another guy I went heavy on before he made the Allstar team. I’ve been a PG my entire life so I tend to know what players are about to take off. There’s another guy who everyone should start investing into Asap…
@@BallerMJ45 I gotcha. His flagship stuff (Prizm and some other brands) were not out yet. I'm not a fan of the college or overseas uniforms though
@@garygordon3075O ok gotya! Yea his Prizm cards were outrageous from the jump but I did get in on some of the NBA hoops cards of his but yea most people don’t care for the cards not in his NBA uniform.
I wish Geoff Wilson was 7”5 that would be cool… make it easier shocking those shelfs
😂
@@SportsCardInvestor he'll shock everyones momma that dirty dog
Honestly Geoff Called the Kentucky Thing LOL FEELSBAD MAN Love The Hometown Hero Reed Sheppard and all the KY Boys !
I would love to collect more RBs, WRs, and even defensive players in football. Stop collecting and wasting money on QBs(Trey Lance, Mac Jones, Sam Darnold, Ridder, Howell.....list goes on...)
Wemby sells can’t keep going up at this rate but the dude is great. If you got $$ and the price dips then buy, buy, buy!!
Esh, I'm a Kentucky fan and.....yeah , it happened again. And.....I bet that it would happen. Smh
This is absolutely nuts for high prices for this new rookie basketball player he hasn't even did anything yeah he's good I would never pay for that
Oakland Golden Grizzlies!!,
NEXT year, after injury 🤕 they sell for 50-90% off...
trading card companies are the only winners today. the fact a card from 2023 is worth more than a card from 1955 is ridiculous, making cards specifically to inflate value and create scarcity is an actual scam.
there's a sucker born every minute
People are paying way to much
I totally agree that other position players in the NFL should be worth more.
THERE HAVE BEEN SOME EXCITING, IMPACTFUL PLAYERS SUCH AS JERRY RICE, BARRY SANDERS, JUNIOR SEAU, AND ADRIAN PETERSON THAT HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE IN THE GAME.
Geoff made Really good points gum needs to be put back in packs and the Gum Cards look horrible as do the bowman march madness cards. I like how there is no more panini talk since that company is trash.
Luckily for me I pulled a wemby /299 seismic out of a blaster ....and it got a psa 10 . Video on channel .. to me its a small investment at a generational type wealth building opportunity, does every opportunity work nope, but if you don't try, you will never win .
For me if they added UCONN mens I would buy a million of them
lol kentucky lost to oakland lol
Go Oakland , Poor Doug .
See ya Kentucky and Miss St.! Go Spartan and Grizzlies 💯💯
I trust Jeff’s judgement, look at what he built, you don’t do that making dumb decisions
He is well worth the price he doing his job in a very different way very rare talent
Wemby is great, just think when the off season comes and Spurs start to pair him with a point guard maybe Trae or another one. Wemby has the skills.
That’s not a Haaland RPA. He has cards in his Leipzig kit.
Yes His Carreer has too long to go before we know if his cards are valuable yet.
I feel like they are wrong because if Victor becomes a superstar like Luka or Giannis stay healthy get stronger like Giannis did he could be unstoppable at some point but if not than I agree with them
I agree💯✅
Doug guaranteed a 1st round Kentucky win - what a boob 😛
LOL He said not a chance...... Poor Kentucky fans.
Wemby the only player since lebron that’s had that kind of hype and he backed it up. He’s going to be the face of the nba if he doesn’t get injured but all nba players over 7’4 get injured that’s what I would be scared of
I think I can explain this & why it DOES make sense.. Please hear me out.
Of all of Wemby’s licensed NBA Rookie cards for 2023 Product, his Prizm base will be the Gold Standard of what all other products are measured against. Panini not having auto rights to him, makes the other products released this year, basically “second-tier” and lower. Compare it to NFL, if you need to, and to CJ Stroud.
Also keep in mind, Players get ONE rookie year. That’s it..
Neither Stroud, nor Wemby will have RPAs or autographs in any of the flagship NBA licensed products for their rookie year.
That means there will be NO NT RPAs, NO Flawless RPAs, No Optic on card autos, NO Contender on card autos, No Immaculate autos or rpas, and the list goes on and on.
This means; that 5 years from now, the most accessible & sought after cards for Wemby and Stroud will first & foremost be the rare, high grade numbered parallels for their Prizm Base rookies. Sure, there will be other parallels in other products such as Optic with Rated Rookies, but when all is said and done, Prizm will be the most sought after.
Also, have you really opened a LOT of Prizm NBA or NFL?? The odds of actually pulling numbered Stroud or Wemby cards are so stacked. At $900+ a box, and over $10k a case, you may not even hit one. And even if you do, will it 10?? Likely not (have you seen the centering on these Stroud cards??!!).
My point is, until Fanatics/Topps takes the reigns (completely) we wont have those high end licensed autos & rpa cards again. For Wemby, THIS is his rookie year. Sure, there will be LOGOmans, and other low numbered patch cards for Stroud and Wemby, but in the end, the Prizm Base parallels will be the most recognizable card for them.
I hope so. It's junkwax 2.0. Anyone who got into trading cards and memorabilia for profit rather than hobby deserves to go broke.
To answer the question in the title: Yes. T-Pott has been talking about this for awhile. Will Geoff be able to pump the brakes? Uh, it doesn't sound like it. He's too invested in ultra-modern.
At 20 year old… This just a rookie who does everything… The talent and basketball IQ is there…. Never seen like this… His a generational talent without the doubt
Draymond Green ruined March madness for me, he said "Anyone can win in March" so the cards feel like mehh to me 😂
Yes… Victor Card is the real deal …why the prizm card .. is higher and higher
Teapot's data dives are some of the stupidest, imaginery analytics I've ever seen. The dude goes down a rabbit hole and never comes back.
❤ im sorry for whoever hurt you 🙏🏻
My thing is if there is no autos in some of the biggest products his numbered cards should be the price of auto cards the hunt is expensive why open a 1000+ dollar box to sell a Wemby for 50$ it makes no sense and not every box / case has a Wemby colored or numbered card I’ve seen cases break and only base Wemby gets pulled so.. my question is are you going to wait to see if boxes go down before buying because I don’t think boxes are gonna go down imo… I’ve seen ppl spend 1000s of dollars for break spots so I’d imagine ppl are adding up the odds 1 box is 1000+ it takes a average of x boxes to = a colored number Wemby aka money invested is crazy to pull such a card
Oakland ouch!!!!
Collect players that you like!!
I agree pump the breaks. Look at Zion his cards went down fast. Best year to buy is there 2nd year because the hype dies down after a year. I got a Josh Allen auto for $50 since people gave up on him his 2nd year
If Wemby stays healthy, that 1/1 will be worth x4 times at least. We have never seen somone like him before with his build and skills.
i do semi agree; however, he has to win rings in order for it to 4x... i know hes very young.
Sounds like someone’s hating because they couldn’t pull a big wemby.
Kentucky happened
They wont grade gum cards. If one gets a 10 and fades ober tome, then uts not a 10 inside any longer
Greg oden
How are collectors going to get burned if they are collectors? The emotions and reasons are not the same as what you are doing. It's obviously a bubble but if you want a card just buy it when it makes sense and avoid the hype. It makes no difference to your life if you miss a nice looking bit of cardboard with some graphics, sig, patch whatever on it. BUBBLE.
Spoiler for ALL UK basketball fans, they out bahaha 😂🤣😂🤣
Buy buy buy!! Only going to go up!
Didn’t realize Doug delivered sausage pizzas on the side 😂😂
OU Grizzzzzlieeeeesssss
Just look at the Zion craze! What happened there ???