The 10 Worst Quests in Baldur's Gate 3
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- čas přidán 10. 05. 2024
- Ever wondered which quests you shouldn't waste your time with in Baldur's Gate 3? While BG3 is certainly one of the greatest RPG's in decades it still had its fair share of annoying quests. Well in this video I've compiled a list of The Top 10 Worst Quests in Baldur's Gate 3, and included some advice so you don't need to suffer as well. If you enjoyed the video leave a like it really helps me out. Thanks for checking it out & If you leave a comment I'll read it.
WARNING THIS WILL CONTAIN SPOILERS ABOUT A LOT OF BG3's QUESTS!
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Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:07 Number 10
01:00 Number 9
01:42 Number 8
03:12 Number 7
04:26 Number 6
05:51 Number 5
06:53 Number 4
07:41 Number 3
08:43 Number 2
10:02 Number 1 - Hry
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Working on another challenge video as well after this one! (My last one failed and softlocked after 5 days of playing T_T so it got delayed lol). Rather than not post for a month I had this on my list of backup ideas. Hope you enjoy!
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Challenge idea: do a solo run on tactician/honour with the worst possible build, made by Cephalopocalypse: copper dragonborn wild magic sorcerer with 8 CHA, 9 DEX-CON, 15 STR-WIS, 17 INT, with useless spells/cantrips: dancing light, true strike, poison spray, light, charm person, featherfall. No armor proficiencies, simple weapons only, starting with 5 hp. And every level up you have to choose the most useless spells/feats :)
when proxy is getting softlocked you know it's a crazy chal
The gondian quest sucks, but pissing off wulbren who’s the biggest asshole ever makes it worth it.
Pissing off Wulbren *is* the quest reward
I started to just leave them in moonrise. No one will miss him
I regret that I can't kill Wulbren. Pissing him off kind of fills the void, but not really.
That quest must be bugged because when you save them all, it does show in Gather Your Allies that they will help you against the Absolute, only for them to be a no show.
also you still get the iron hands you just tell Wulbren's ex to be the leader
I will happily side with the Gondians and get absolutely no rewards just for the pleasure of sticking it to Wulbren
You can have Barcus replace Wulben as leader of the Ironhands and have both factions as allies in the final fight.
@@Martin-di9pp Yes! I found this much more rewarding
Yeah. Screw Wulbren
@@emmasilver2332 Fuck Wulbren Bongle.
@@Martin-di9ppHow?
If I could at least commission Oskar to paint Astarion so he could see himself again, it'd make that damn quest a little more worth it but NO. he has no reaction! Istg the painting you get isn't worth what I paid the Zhent to free him and also frankly........ Janneth is too good for Oskar, he kind of sucks as a person and doesn't deserve her devotion. Next run I'm leaving him with the Zhent, girlie will be better off.
My painting almost always turns out to be Minsc and it makes me laugh every single time.
Also I think they're both actually much better off with Oskar in the Zhentarim's hands.
I killed all the Zhentarim so he could escape, but he still didn’t leave by himself. In Act 3 now, and he gets so mad like “after you FAILED to save me 😡” like bruh.
Jannath was having an art gallery at her house and was feeling bad abt him until I told her he left her for another woman. She was frustrated, but thanked me bc now she didn’t have to worry abt him. Gave me the ring, too 👍
UPDATE: killed all the Zhentarim AGAIN, through the Guild Hall fight. He still won't leave. At this point I think leaving him to his own devices is natural selection.
When I found this quest I literally thought if I save him he will probably be available for my painting creation. Like goblins for the statue, but no he literally does nothing.
The painting always changed who it was whenever I picked it up and dropped it. Wish it would've just let us lock in one character, and get special dialogue if that character was Astarion.
What's the point when Astarion wouldn't react, anyway? (basing this on how Astarion has no reaction if you pay the hefty price to have a statue made of him).
Wyll's quest is also incredibly disappointing. The whole part with Ansur made me bitter because the Emperor just. Stole the scene. Like wtf man I was so upset at that. Wyll doesn't even have that many extra lines.
Also Save the Gondians ends up with having both the Ironhand and Gondians as allies if Barcus is there. I love that little gnome. You can help him cast out Wulbren and unite the two factions and it was so satisfying! I only managed this in my second playthrough because I'd managed to keep Barcus alive and it was very rewarding.
Ansur was terribly unsatisfying, I have to agree. All this talk about a legendary dragon and whatnot and thinking that it'll help us turns out to be an enemy. The equipment from doing it is nice but in terms of story, it left a lot to be desired.
Honestly it’s his whole quest that’s like that, i had a bug on my first run that broke wyll’s companion quest so it never started in the journal, but i still completed all the major objectives just by exploring without ever knowing they were part of his quest, i swear it feels like he isn’t needed in his own story and it’s just sad…
The Ansur quest felt exactly like "The Hobbit" (the movies) : they made a HUGE deal out of him for a long time (I mean you gotta pass a Gauntlet of Shar v2 and stuff), only then to be rewarded with dialog that you literally have NO say in it (unlike other dialogs where different options lead to different dialogs) and then no choice but to having to defat the dragon, no new allies. Like wtf bro why are you mad at ME???? Im not the one that killed you.
Afterward you DO get a few new dialog options with the Emperor which I thought was pretty cool, but besides that, thats it.
very disappointing in the end
Wyll's entire quest can be completed without him ever leaving camp lmao. Shadowheart, Astarion and Lae'zel kinda steal the show from everyone else, even Gale's personal quest is a bit lacking, though nowhere near as weak as Wyll and Karlach's who suffered greatly from being last minute adjustments and additions respectively.
I tried to convince them to let barcus be the leader in my first playthrough, but then failed the checks. I ended up having done the entire quest with zero rewards. Wulbren hated me cause I let the gondian live and the gondian couldnt help me cause of said reason in the video. Really sucked cause the entire quest felt pointless.
Saving the Gondians for me was never about the reward. My party had almost everything they needed at that point. My character was trying to be a hero, and couldn't just turn a blind eye to their plight. Plus, the Iron throne encounter is just amazing. Even though it isn't as dangerous as some of the bosses, the time limit really makes it memorable. Most exciting encounter besides Ansur IMO.
Exactly my point too. The iron Trhone is so unique. And it gives you Ravenguard in the final battle as an ally, and Omeluum gives you some items if u save him.
Slightly better than fighting fucking ghosts for hours and gaining a paint that you can't put on a wall....
Reading this really lets me regret to have killed Gortash on my first encounter with him. If you do that you never get that Iron throne encounter :((
I loved the whole quest, but come on. You don't even get a cutscene where you get to see them united! If you're not going to give a reward, at least give a heartfelt cutscene or thank you😊
@@aekritleborgne1065 A painting that isn't even of your character lol
I hated the Ansur encounter. Come to think of it, it should have made this list! An ugly fight and all for nothing. You can get the loot without the fight.
The suspicious toys quest DOES suck, but the reward of being able to get a huge pile of explosives from it soothes any gripes I have tbh.
Though you can also just randomly stumble upon this place, be like “omg why so many explosives around I’m going to steal every single one of them” then return out of town get into the basement realizing there’s a quest😂
@@sophiasu5885Yep, same happened to me xD
It was a dumb decision (on purpose), but casting fireball during the fight in the shop was fun.
It always freezes on us whenever we confront the banites as soon as the clerk gets to take.his action.
No reward is worth messing with Avery Sonshal. His powers extend beyond simple AC or attack power. We are but mere pawns in his schemes.
on my first "Save the Gondians" playthrough, i decided to use a Potion of Angelic Reprieve because i'd never gotten to, and i REALLY needed it, because it was ridiculously difficult to keep these idiots alive. i jumped up into the rafters and used it, because nothing could really hit me up there
a Gondian jumped up, SHOVED me, and woke me up. i decided to just let them die after that
Ok that’s hilarious the gondians are so stupid hhahaha
Reminds me of that video where someone saved Jaheira in the tower fight by teleporting her up to the rafters and healing her. After that she immediately jumped down, went prone and died before she could do anything.
I just had the opposite yesterday! I was doing great in the fight, but then had two steel watchers next to me about to explode... I managed to move my party but my "me" was stuck there.
Some absolute babe of a gondian - before moving herself from the blast - pushed me to safety!! ♥
I stared at the screen in awe for a bit and then clipped it 😂
@@SaHaRaSquad god i love the BG3 AI so much 😐
I think most allies are programmed to do something like that if they find opportunity. I used an Angel Potion during the final sequence and once of the summoned Hellrider allies decided to spend his turn shoving me awake and not helping kill the giant goddamn dragon lol
Raiding the grove is easily the worst choice in the entire game simply because of Dammon. You get some low level loot from a few druids but lose out on the flawed helldusk set, the armor of persistence, like four best-in-slot weapons, the darkfire shortbow, and basically any interesting arrows bc he sells the vast majority of those in act 3
not to mention that you can just go and kill all the druids for loot and XP after the party and nobody bats an eye 😅
I mean, for the arrows Karlach's friend sells those and you can also find them in. Wyrm Rock and Rivington. The only issue for me is the Legacy of the Masters. Those gloves are exactly what an archer (or a unholy assassin) wants.
Minthara sitting on my face >>> absolutely anything dammon has to offer me
@@wsmith7918 Get on my level, I managed to get Minthara to sit on my face AND Dammon is my bro since I can pull both off.
@@ShadowFlower15 no face sitting scene without tiefling genocide unfortunately
The chicken chasing will be done with the owlbear cub if you let it live if/when you killed it's mother. In this case you can talk to it and get it to go where it needs to and then tell it to follow your scent to camp.
You can skip the need to do chicken chasing with dialogue options and still get the cub to show up at your camp as long as you let it get your sent before talking to the goblin.
As drow elf she hands over the reward for winning and all her earnings 😆
I genuinely can’t believe I completed the dribbles the clown quest my first time playing. I did literally everything I could in act 3, but I’m still amazed I found all his pieces LOL
Actually impressive
Same, explored pretty much every piece of the city, picked every lock I could stumble upon😂
@@ProxyGateTactician Thank you 🙏
Same here, I still don't know how I managed to find all the pieces. Some of them are very out of the way.
I always have trouble finding the one in Lavernica's house, because it's in this little alleyway tucked underneath a bridge that's not on a main path, but knowing it shares a wall with Araj's exploding lab place helps a little.
Iron Throne rescue mission has to be one of the most memorable gameplay moments in the game for me. Sure it's very hard to save everyone, but it's like a tactical puzzle you have to solve, many times involving preparations before going in there. And if it's annoying for you, but you still wanna save everyone, go partial illithid with all your characters - It becomes almost trivial with perma fly and mind blasts.
I enjoyed it too, but after realizing there’s no reward for doing well and no achievement for saving them all it felt like ok… why did I bother trying so hard to do it. I think if gondians were only required to be saved there and no other areas I could accept it’s not bad
Or, get a monk with rogue multi class, stack some movement speed, haste, and go super sonic with step of the wind, loop across the entire map like twice in one turn and unlock every prison cell. 😂 it is hilarious to imagine that in real time
I thought I f*cked up, when my time was running out and I had only Omeluum left to save. I got to control him, checked his abilities and it was so rewarding to actually pull it off by saving everyone including the Duke with Mizoras interference.
Mizora coming in from nowhere with the spiders and taking control of Ravenguard is a dirty move imo.
@@ProxyGateTacticianI don't get this. My character would try to save everyone, that's all the motivation i need.
I call Find Dribbles the worst with how annoying it is for a crap reward imo. Save the Gondians at least leads you to where Duke Ravenguard and Omeluum are and if you help Barcus you can still get the ironhand gnomes in the final fight while siding with the Gondians. Having a controllable Steel Watcher in the final fight would have been fantastic
Rescuing Omeluun only gives you some junk reward when you find him back at the Society
@@HarryPujols i gotta admit, my personal reward for saving Omeluum is him saying that he likes me XDD
@@HarryPujols saving Omie IS the reward on itself. Would protect best squid with my character's life.
Yeah find dribbles is the worst quest you go on this long as goose chase to find his body parts which idk how anyone could do on a blind play trough I had to look that shit up and once you complete the quest the circus gone they leave getting rid of a amazing area with fantastic characters and scents merchants I know they said they would leave once dribbles was found but I didn’t expect the devs actually remove them like I thought would be “oh you found dribbles thanks here’s some mediocre gloves and we’ll be leaving soon” and have them remain there while your still in act three as they are preparing that way the circus is still there the player still has access to the merchants and characters while their “preparing to leave”
As soon as i read up about the Spellmight gloves, picking up Dribbles' remains became little more than a footnote. It's just ridiculous that you went outta your way on a shit tedious quest only to get some junk that you'd have no qualms about selling right away.
This really highlighted how important the permanent see invisibility buff is...
If you're referencing the poltergeist section... I had the permanent see invisibility buff and it did little to nothing for me in that section. One ghost still insisted on playing hide and seek for at least an hour.
It just triggered combat while I was walking by, for me.
I was getting that buried chest in the yard and the see invisibility buff ‘revealed’ a poltergeist inside of that stupid house (who designed that house, btw? It’s got the dumbest layout. I know it’s a game dungeon and not an irl house but still. Damn.) and I had to spend 3-5 turns just dashing through the house, triggering combat with all the other poltergeists, to get to where that first revealed ghost was.
100% save the artist is the worst quest in the game. It’s so damn long for such a meagre reward and leads into the mystic carrion quest, which makes it feel even longer.
The Free the Artist Quest is the most annoying because the battle is within the house with multiple layers. The ghosts will agro you even if they're on the higher floor and they take their turns forever. After doing it on my first playthrough, I always kill the artist in the Zentharim hideout. LoL
I agree. Easily irritated me the most.
my issue is that i had to engage with carrion. Why couldn't i cast remove curse on the portrait. It felt like a common sense move to me.
My issue is the bugs.
The quest is already annoying to do, and i actually would’ve be happy with painting cuz at that pint in act3 I’m all stack up with everything, with end game builds and don’t really need much. Instead of gold or some gear I most likely wouldn’t need, portrait of my character is something very unique and cool for once. No other quest does anything similar.
HOWEVER, the damn painting buggs out every single time. Not only is it random, the character in the painting would also change everything you load the game or change location or go to camp, heck, even reloading a save will change the portrait. Like for example it would be that of Gale when being rewarded, then you go to camp and it becomes Jaheim’s, then you save and reload and it becomes Laezel, then you go back out and it becomes just blank. and then you quit the game and reopen and it becomes Astarion. Like wtf?
Is like as if it’s possessed, ironically. Realizing that instantly breaks your immersion.
Safe to say, in all my subsequent playthrough, lady jannath mansion has only been used for her art exhibition.
In my second playthrough I understood the right choice was just to let the ghost take him, you get that ring at least.
@@yanli111 How does break your immersion? Obviously it's a magic painting
Raid the grove quest is probably the least favorite for me because minthara's behavior doesn't make sense. She's send here for a mission - find the artifact. And yet neither during the raid nor after it she doesn't search the grove, doesn't interrogate anyone, no investigation done whatsoever. And the next day she just leaves, thinking that murder of "heretics" will win her any favors. Like girl aren't you forgetting something? Something about an artifact hmm?.. that was infuriating for me
The goblins did a lot of looting though so she trusted them I guess? But yea she totally dropped the ball never trust a gobo
@@ProxyGateTactician and worst of all you disappoint halsin :(
Agree. Minthara has a lot of herp-derp moments that might get missed in a single playthrough but become more obvious/ annoying in later runs.
Of all the companions, she feels the least refined/ consistent. Fortunately, Emma Gregory's performance was so stellar, it overshadowed all of the Minthara writing flaws for me, at least.
I could attentively listen to that lady talk about tax code and have a good time 😅
There's the House of Grief battle, not so much a quest, but. That one and the Iron Thrown were initially the must frustrating but when you figure out how to beat them they're easily the most memorable and satisfying. Seeing all those gnomes running to the ladder and you're like "Yay, go go go!" I think it's just what the designers had in mind when they made them.
I only found out too late that the House of Grief fight is THE place for Shadowheart to use her Divine Intervention (Sunder the Heretical mainly). LOTS of enemies, makes perfect sense story-wise whether you killed the Nightsong or not, and objectively makes the fight a lot easier if you combine it with other AoE attacks.
I lost that battle a LOT due to not using it. Ended up getting a lucky initiative roll with Shadowheart just before Gale, ran up the entrance stairs with all my party, used summons to keep the enemies busy at the bottom of them, used SH's daylight spell to get rid of the darkness, immediately followed by Gale fireballing the now-funnelled sharrans. My monk Tav and Karlach were here to defend Gale and get rid of any enemy with enough movement to climb up the stairs. But hooo boy, tough fight.
One major objection here: At the end of the save the Gondians quest, there are three options.
You can side with the Gondians or with the Ironhands or you can replace Wulbren. This option is only available though, when you did not let another important person fly in the first act. With this third option you still get the support of the Ironhands in the final battle.
Honestly the issue with Karlachs quest isn’t that the ending isn’t “good” it’s just you get so many options and implications that there is a solution. Kinda disappointing her only real “good” option is to back to literal hell.
I would argue the quest being simplistic is that makes it really underwhelming. Literally all you do is get 2 inferno iron and dialogue. There is nothing to it. You don’t even get a quest to go out of you way to a specific location to find these material, you just stumble upon them while you do other stuff.
All other companion have waaaay cooler and longer quest with either unique location, unique boss, unique choice that alters the storyline, unique npc to save or interact with, unique gear as reward, unique new ability, or a combination of all. Meanwhile karlach get “fetch” quest and I guess kill gortash, which you would do anyway in main quest.
Even wyll, who’s got the second half-baked companion quest, have ties with iron throne and slay the wyrm, and 2 potential reward that can only be obtained thru Mizora.
they really didnt put much work in karlach’s quest😅
And you get soo much infernal iron later in the game, and it’s basically useless.
@@yanli111 does getting the infernal iron even do anything? The first infernal iron doesn’t even give you approval lol. I’m not the type of guy to only do quests for rewards since I like the story and all but you’d think karlach would atleast be slightly appreciative of you stopping her dying
@@HarryPujols Dammon can make 3 items from that infernal iron
Yeah I honestly don't understand why they put all that dialogue with the steel watch if it leads nowhere lol. I believe Swen when he says there wasn't more; Karlach was a late addition and was just meant to be a minor NPC. But it's weird there are all these breadcrumbs with a dead end.
Everyone talks about how karlach gets a crap ending, but honestly spawn astarion starts burning up and has to live life in the underdark, which is also pretty lame for an outcome. Some of the companions even just casually say "guess we wont see him ever again. Oh well".... Im glad the epilogues hinted at both a cure for karlachs heart, and astarion still looking for ways to walk in the sun, though
I don't think he lives in the underdark. He is just back to night life in baldurs gate. He also talks about how he tries to save people now. Not the worst ending
Save the Gondians does mean Barcus ends up leader of the Iron Hands though. Do it for him :)
And he calls you friend :)
I was gonna say… do it for Barcus! Also, go to the Iron Throne first before going to the Gondians… saves you a trip
I would, but my tav accidentally pulled the wrong lever and now his body is resting in the blighted village. I guess pissing off Wulbren is my reward for the quest
@@Danny_B13 noooo 🤣
@@Danny_B13 Yeah, happened to my last Dark Urge as well. xD I considered reloading, but since it was... you know... a Dark Urge, it kinda fit too well to not just leave poor Barcus dead.
I legitimately don't understand the Gauntlet of Shar hate. The trials are easy enough, even on Honour Mode, are overall pretty interesting, and that section of the game has some awesome character interactions and backstory. Ofc the trials won't be as fun on a second go around because they're puzzles you've already solved, but I never dread it like some people seem to 😶
It wouldn’t be as bad if it didn’t feel like you need to cheese the invisible maze to complete it.
Also the elevator is in there lol I’m surprised you don’t mind that for Honour mode
The hidden path trial was bugged when I first attempted it on tactician and just kept killing me even though I was on the path. So you bet your ass I used knock on that door for honor mode and skipped that bad boy
I don't mind the self same trial and the ring you get is worth it but fuck the invisible maze.
I don't understand the hate for the invisible maze. I could see the path highlighted on the ground and I just had to follow it and I got it first time with no trouble. Why do you guys not have it highlighted ?
@@gildeddrake1479sometimes it is bugged and you can see the path. Also every time i did it by jumping/ flying to the platforms it would randomly kill me like 80% of the time for no apparent reason.
The underwater prison was honestly one of my favorite parts of act 3. It actually required strategy to save all the gnomes, the Duke and Omeleum inside the time limit.
It definitely grew on me after a couple of playthroughs. Even harder if you freed Wyll from Mizora and she is actively trying to stop you.
Another quest worthy of a black mark is the eagles' nest on top of the monastery. You kill several eagles to evict them from an eagle-sized nest to give the nest to a much smaller bird, and the reward is a chest you could always dig up anyway.
Yo fuck them eagles those bitches killed Astarion like 5 times in my first playthrough 💀
With the gondians, you can side with them but convince Barcus to take over the iron hand gnomes. He will send you help in the final battle by giving you grenaders
Right, but the quest says the gondians will still help you in the final battle if you choose that option and they still don’t send any help which feels broken somehow
@@ProxyGateTacticianWeird how they fixed the Watcher not using one of his abilities correctly but not fixed him not appearing there at all. Maybe a case of them checking something with debug tools to spawn him in there or something
@@sunbleachedangel I used the debug book mod (which adds their debug tools) and if you use the mod in there it works fine.
The only flaw in the game is I can’t tell wulbren I threw his boyfriend off a windmill
That's a serious mistake. Barcus makes the Last Light a Triple Play for important vendors. Plus there's that whole final battle thing. Your play-thru may vary...
@@davidhorn8004 one more enemy after killing Isobella you mean?
@@catgirluwu752 "Yes, living in the future *IS* a little like having bees live inside your head, but... there they are."
no matter how evil my OC is, I'm always side with Tiflings. All because of Dammon and his shop.
Logistics matter the most when you are in a war. :3
Investigate the Fireworks: I was okay with the quest. The reward for me was throwing multiple people out the window. Then the shopkeeper joined the fight. He would take a full minute to decide to dash upstairs. He almost destroyed my Honour Mode run by getting me caught in a crash loop every time I loaded into the game. Way too overpowered move-set for a stupid shopkeeper.
As much as I was sad seeing the ending for Karlach, I still find it interesting and nicely written. Not everything is fixable, not everyone can be saved, some people will die or return to their miserable state after clearing the main quest, that's just how it is.
And if she goes with Wyll, it doesn’t even feel like a tragic ending. The pair of them are out there taking names and kicking ass.
@@vamp97 Agreed, they seem to be having quite some fun together down there
The problem is, at least three people should be able to fix her (whoever installed the engine in the first place, the ironhands, and the steelwatch), and Karlach mentions a wish spell but it's never a real option. I don't accept it because it's forced drama that ignores solutions.
I don't like the Karlach quest because it's just not finished. They were speaking about the upper city two months before release. And the upper city was important to Wyll and Karlach.
The two characters whose stories feel cut short and shafted ://
I hope for a definitive edition to add back cut content.
Fuck that shit! This a fantasy game, if we want a happy ending we can get it. Get that "That's how it is" out of here. There were a thousand in-universe ways to fix Karlach including the literally god of death sitting in your camp. Larion just wanted cheap pain for the playerbase.
dribbles is the worst for sure, you get no quest markers so you have to just explore every inch of the map, you have to find a crapton of bodyparts and the reward is terrible
Just do the Orin quest - basically every Orin victim has one part of Dribbles on their corpse.
LOL THE REWARD IS THE SINGLE MOST POWERFUL ITEM FOR ANY BLASTER BUILD, ALMOST DOUBLING YOUR DAMAGE OUTPUT BUT OK
@@Walthanar
But you can literally get it for free by just pickpocketing or even killing the NPC, and by the time you collect all the body parts you’ll likely already be level 12, so it is incredibly pointless to go through the actual quest to get this item
I really like the Shar trials, except for the Faith-Leap one. The soft-step trial lets you use a bunch of solutions to get around it such as invisibility potion/spell, gaseous form, or just being super fast; so I think it lets you experiment and try different things in multiple playthroughs. The self-same trial is a pretty fun 'gotcha' on a first playthorugh when your characters are probably not optimised anyway but encourages sneaky tactics on second playthroughs such as removing the enemies' equipment or sneaking in companions after the trial starts, both of which I think are on the border of 'was I meant to do that' solutions which I find very fun in an RPG. I agree the faith-leap trial seems not to be implemented correctly though, and they really needed to avoid anything requiring fine control in a game where fine character control is not really possible.
Try the faith leap with a moon lantern. I've read that reveals the path and I think that's what I did on my first playthrough though at the time I just thought it was a settings bug when the path stayed visible.
@@Furthea2the visible floor was a bug that they have since fixed. Was visible in my first run but more recent runs the paths are invisible as intended. Still easy though as the map of the routes is at the start.
For Faith-Leap, I've started I just jumping the platforms 😅
I personally hate resolve the abduction because up until that quest I had fully commited to no savescumming. But Isobelle decided to trigger 3 opportunity attacks and go down.
In defense of the chicken chasing, it’s very easy to skip that. I mostly use it to get the owlbear cub. I’ve literally never done it with an actual chicken tbh.
From what I’ve read you actually get a gold reward from the owlbear version so maybe only chicken is broken
Am I the only one who turns on turn based mode and just shoves the chicken where I want it to go? lol
I've never once done the chicken thing either. That's one you almost have to go out of your way to experience as it is.
If you talk to the chicken with speak with animals on, you can tell it to run to the end, no check, I think you can do the same with owlbear cub( there might be a check there, can’t remember rn)
you can also move the boxes and chests to cut off the way back and guide it where you want it to go
I think the fact that none of these are really THAT bad speaks to how good Baldur's Gate 3 is
For sure. I almost changed the video to be top 5 lol
Dribbles and Oskar quests felt really out of place for level 12 characters.
@@thiagoanbonfim The one redeeming thing about the dribbles questline is that all the murder scenes are callbacks to the main antagonists of BG2 Throne of Bhaal DLC.
While "Save the Gondians" fizzles out when you get to the foundry, "The Iron Throne" quest on its own is one of my favorite in the game.
I didn't know the gauntlet of shar was hated, I loved it.
#1 should be saving the artist, it is so frustrating mechanically
If you just fly from outside it’s insanely easy but for experience I Intentionally tried walking through the building and I can see why it is bad
I'm definitely doing that on my next playthrough (if I don't kill him first!). The enemies inside are just so tedious to kill and the way to disable them is not at all evident. It's a shame, because the mystery of the quest was so interesting
SAME, the Gauntlet was challenging, but not frustrating for me. The walking on darkness answer is literally drawn on the floor when you start. The whole stealth mission is done with an invisibility spell/potion, and the fight with yourself, you don't need to actually do that, the debuff for having someone else kill a duplicate can be easily removed.
Biggest problem for me was that you cant use him as slave after literally buying him. He just runs away and if I try to knock him down to stop it, everyone around gets aggroed for me damaging MY OWN property :(
Honestly, it feels like Larian did everything they could to discourage a fully evil run (i.e., one that includes raiding the grove and helping kidnap Isobel) without fully railroading players away from it. There are viable ways to be not entirely good or be an antihero of sorts, but being completely evil is punished incredibly hard for virtually no reward and I'm not sure how I feel about that.
I mean, the durge is a thing
@@i3lackfusion yeah and evil durge run is punished as well. god forbid you accept bhaal and become the absolute. no epilogue for you, nuh-uh
@@brittanysheets8782 what epilogue could there be, though?
I'd say you can be very evil, just save things for the right moment. You can save the grove and then kill all the druids (which usually happens to me because I want the idol of Silvanus). You knock Alfira out to keep her from dying before act 2. Then you rescue Lakrissa and the gnomes and once they're all there and reward you (Potent Robe) you kill Isobel. The only real issue I have with that is not getting the "Legacy of the Masters" in act 3. Which means if I'm going with a physical unit it's a bad loss. But with a sorcerer or something like that you're still ok.
Also even if you refuse Bhaal as the Durge you can still be evil. In fact, the Durge is a very vicious person even without the Urge influence.
If you choose the right dialogue questions after refusing Bhaal you get a creepy note from the narrator telling you all the evil you do from then on will be for yourself and not for Bhaal. There are other similar situations revealing you can still be a piece of crap if you want and it's compatible with the lore.
Then you can go for the epilogue to find an empty camp with no allies and have an attempt to kill Withers with "Atrophy". The fitting end of the one who just wants to kill by themselves and for themselves. Even the Absolute, the Dead Three and their predecessor will be just one of your victims.
Yeah, but the game is huge enough and making it twice as huge for a whole evil path seems like an insane undertaking
i dont get why karlach just doesnt stay in the house of hope? theres a good person there, its in the hells, she can be comfortable until they can find a solution? its so aggravating to see her either die, or force you and wyll to go to hell (rip if youre dating will and want karlach to live).
"Force you and wyll to go to hell (rip if youre dating will and want karlach to live)": This was actually my ending and I interpreted it to mean that we became a trio, fighting demons in hell together. I was not bothered by it at all.
is she just gonna sit around with Hope flicking her bean. Being stuck in that place would be the most boring thing ever. I never felt all bubbly inside when Hope decides to stay there. Sure, her situation greatly improved not being a captive and all, but not by much.
i believe it’s because zariel is pretty much constantly hunting her down, so staying in one place would be the worst possible decision. i cant think of a specific dialogue but i’m pretty sure karlach says a few times throughout the game that she’s been running from zariel and her hell army for a long time. holding up probably wouldn’t work, especially not in the HoH.
are you kidding. I love some of these quest. i dont really mind the underwhelming rewards. what I seek is the experience I get from them. Some are funny and thrilling. iron throne quest was an underwater adventure, it was really fun and Id like to play it again.
The save the artist quest was horrible from any angle. First you pay 600 gold for some stranger at a time in the game where gold still means something only for the prick to come back later, which requires you to navigate through a house with time stealing poltergeists in turn based mode in which the final one could play hide and seek for a while. By the time you free the artist you best be getting the sword of colossal whoop arse or the amulet of infinite health, but a painting. Mine was just a shadow. That one was so bad I'm pretty sure it was Larian trolling us. The poltergeist house pissed me off. It highlights how painfully inn-efficient the games turn based design is and it just so happens that the polterguists take longer than any other character in the game to act.
Also any battle where a lot of enemies are placed at upward angles against you. You don't get to do that unless you design better controls that allow the player to easily access those angles. And of course the final march to the netherbrain ends up being just that.
But you are correct about some things, such as the Shar quest, which I thought was fun and is so easy on a second playthrough.
@@LibertyRapsher my rogue bullied the merchant into allowing him to pay zero gold for that man... then insulted the artist by telling him exactly how much we didn't spend on him 😂
"worst quests" doesn't imply that they're awful, just the worst of the quests available in BG3
Fighthing against my own strong clones is always fun, it will be the last actual engaging fight for the rest of the playthrough. Everything else will die before I even finish casting my buffs.
I really enjoyed that part the first time, but the rest of the trials were annoying the first playthrough for me.
The other day I sent in Shadowheart against herself and the challenge felt like it was probably intended to be done that way, it was quick and fairly easy.
The reward is also not too shaby, that ring is useful. The dark walk puzzle however sucks.
@@korakysI agree, is even easier if you have her unequip everything before initiating the trial since shadow being mirrors her equipped items-sneak in, re-equip best items and surprise the would-be ambusher, who has no weapons or armor 👍
For me the investigation of Suspicious Toys will always be the most useless quest line :/ Like you mentioned it seems so odd there's literally NOTHING you can do with the info once you've figured it all out, no reward for killing them or 'revealing' them.
you need to come back and talk to the toy maker to finish the quest
Shocked that there is supposed to be a Gondian Steelwatcher. That said, you CAN be nice to the Gondians and get the iron hands, if you put Barcus in charge of them.
Not that it’s worth it, the Gondians blow. I like saving the ones in the depths, but the ones in the foundry are morons.
I won't stand by the attacking the grove hate. Your companions' discomfort during the goblin party is the true reward.
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"All in exchange for one night with Minthara"
I wasn't listening to the rest, RIP teiflings, man's gotta EAT
Do a Durge playthrough, she supports your evil all the way.
I think the biggest reason in act 3 not to do some of the more tedious quests except once is because of that point you are not able to level any higher
A truly excellent reason to grab the mod that raises the level ceiling to 20. Why do tedious quests for the underwhelming magic items in this version of D&D?
I'd rank Free The Artist as my top worst quest
As I said in a reply, I'm surprised Ansur isn't in the list. I felt completely tricked after having been promised a dragon... It was a not very interesting fight, the reward can be collected without fighting, and the main plot point that you discover (that the emperor is Balduran) is almost absent from dialogue afterwards, I thought it was going to be a much bigger deal. I'm not sure if it's my least favorite, but definitely top 3.
plus the emperor being balduran is unnecessarily confusing for his character and the city as a whole, i honestly forgot he was balduran until this comment because it's such an underdeveloped plot point
That quest was ridiculously glitchy for me too. So frustrating
it's more satisfying to see lady jannath freely having a social event in her not-destroyed home. this happens if you don't save Oskar from the zhent (you can still meet him in act 3)
I just noticed that if you don't do the questline there are humans outside the mansion trying to find ghosts but failing lol what a timeline
I really despised Ethel's quest in Act 1, specifically the combat encounters in the swamp. I know it is intended to be dangerous and hard to maneuver but all the mud, poison, and cc makes it my least favorite thing to do in the whole game.
Chicken chasing? What chicken? That's called an owlbear!
Another thing about the explosive toys quest is that it is completely bugged. If you initiate combat, usually the people on the other floors of the building will be drawn in
The problem with this is that most of the time, the characters fail to move, take actions, or do anything besides standing there for minutes at a time, only for the game to crash afterwards.
I’ve personally tried to quietly eliminate them, or eliminate them all at once e, but there’s always a straggler or two who managed to not die quick enough. So yeah, not only is the quest apparently (and I say this because I literally can’t beat it) unrewarding, but it’s bugged to hell.
Don't you have to do the same self trial to get Killer's Sweetheart?
you do, but it's not that big of a deal. it's cool to get a guaranteed crit but if you're doing a crit based build you'll be getting plenty of em. i'd rather have the risky ring tbh
I love the bitter sweet return to the Hells with either Wyll or your PC. It's a beautiful cutscene and great character moment for Karlach.
One of my characters had been dating Gale but Gale refused to give up the possibility of godhood for my character so I went to hell with Karlach. Gale can have his divinity. I'll take my fiery new girlfriend and our epic quest to save her life any day.
lol “1.5 min between turns is too long”. I mean yeah, it’s a video game I get it. But in actual D&D you can easily go like half an hour between your turns
I know lol I did dnd with my irl friends and 5 people had never played. One battle I remember taking nearly 3 hours and then they all quit the next week. I blame the DM for it though
Only 1:31? When I did the stupid “save the painter” quest, the poltergeists bugged out and EACH TOOK TWO MINUTES TO TAKE THEIR TURN. SOMETIMES THEY WOULDNT EVEN DO ANYTHING ON THEIR TURN.
So yeah that one easily makes the top of my list, didn’t even finish it on my first playthrough and I never will. Oskar gets blown up in the Zhentarim hideout now, every single time. He’s more evil than the netherbrain if you ask me.
Exactly. Worst of the worst for me as well.
3/4 of the Shar trials can be cheesed.
1 - The Sneak one can be done before interacting with the statue and bleeding, just by lockpicking some doors/disarming some traps, just have one party member wait inside right in front of the prize, start the trial and go back to that companion to pick the gem, takes like 3 sec.
2 - The Copies trial can also be cheesed by unnequiping everything in your party before bleeding to the statue, right after you can equip every piece again, and now you have a fight where the enemies are naked and you have your nice gear. hehehe
3 - The Pathway trial is cheesed by just standing at the right corner to where the bleeding offer is, and just click on the other side. For some reason this straight line goes perfectly and you can finish it like it was nothing.
Havent noticed any cheese for the Libray part, tho, might have to ask those Mice around the temple.
Was about to say this too! To add to the 2nd one (Copies trial), I've also heard you can send everyone else back to camp and just have one player do the trial. Makes the fight go just a bit quicker with one KO hit!
I had no problem with any of those challenges AND I don't know what I did right but I could just see the invisible pathway so it's wasn't even a trial for me.
it doesn't matter if you can cheese them... the problem is it takes a lot of time and is super boring. They are not difficult per se, they are just tedious.Especially on your third or fourth playthrough in a questline that is obligatory
I did Oskar quest once, totally not worth it, since then the guy dies where I find him and once I make it to the city I tell Jannath that he escaped to avoid marrying her, girl deserved better.
Save the Gondians isn't too bad. It intersects with other quests like Disable the Steelwatch, etc. so you're not solely focused on it and the loot you get along way is pretty good.
I've streamlined the gauntlet. For the stealth one take an invisibility potion and keep to the right. For the self-same trial take off all your equipment before activating the statue. Got that idea from the mimic boss in elden ring.
I have also streamlined the gauntlet of shar. I use knock on the door and boom, no trials necessary
@@Dutchbrother07 you don't even have to take the elevator if you know the right place to make a feather fall jump.
@@Dutchbrother07 Yeah but XP
@@andyl7677 true if you’re confident in it. I do everything I can except certain things and you can get pretty overleveled
If you go in alone to the self-same, its much easier
I think the challenge and idea behind the Iron Throne quest is pretty good. Like in good DnD, not every encounter should be about wiping the floor with enemies in the same way you always do. Even on the higher difficulties it's perfectly possible to release all the prisoners in time with good use of haste, fly, potions, and movement-boosting items. That tells me it's pretty well balanced. But like in the foundry, the big problem is with the gondians themselves who will randomly decide to not run to the ladder, often just stodd waiting for the sahuagin to kill them or even running PAST the ladder to get out. Like a lot of act 3 it's a really good idea let down by janky performance.
I had it happen once where one of them ended turn at the ladder so no one else could use it causing the rest of the gondians to all run the wrong way and then not escape in time
i wanted to play the game as if im roleplaying to try to enjoy it like other people do, but i quickly realized i'm very reward motivated, so i can't truly roleplay, and i feel like this video validated a lot of my feelings lmao
The Artist quest is my least favorite. I got my hopes up that I could choose Astarion specifically so he could see his face again. I really want to believe that this was the original intent of the quest considering what he has to deal with in Act 3 and, realistically, that's got to be a lot to take on and recover from.
If you save Barcus in Act 1 and side with the Gondians in Act 3, you can have the Ironhand Gnomes as an ally for the final fight
Right but it’s extra work for the same outcome which feels weird
to be fair, the Gondians aren't at all worth it as allies.
I expected them to be chucking smokebomb grenades all over the place but instead they do the amazing idea of running up to something in melee range to attempt a ranged attack
joking aside, they are not at all worth the allies though the iron throne is absolutely memorable
Barcus always dies in Grymforge for me. It's so infuriating!
How did oscar make it to the city? Who knows
I never thought of that but now I want to know
Mayrina too. How did she make it there?
My only issue is that going the bad or evil route in this game cuts out an extremely large portion of the game with little reward or story to come out of it. You loose companions which removes quest lines, you don’t get alternative companions to aid you in your debauchery, and there are very few options that expand the game in interesting ways when choosing this route. You get game over and that’s it.
There are so many points in the game that punish you for exploring your options. Especially when you want to get information from an NPC that ends up locking you into a path that you never wanted just because you wanted to understand the situation before making a choice. It was very frustrating.
I completed the Gondian quest today and I gotta say, their AI was very good. I remember them constantly running into danger months ago but I feel like their AI must have been tweaked in recent patches because they made a good habit of Misty Stepping out of danger. One even pushed two of their paralyzed buddies out of a Steel Watcher explosion with Thunderwave. Well played..
Yea they all get blur now and they spam misty steps they got way better than original release. I still took 4 tries to save every single one on explorer but I was using awful builds also. Most of my late game save files were from challenge runs where my chars are under leveled or something lol
I just played that and a gondian attacked a steel watcher that was already counting down to explosion thus causing it to explode immediately
If you can worm Wyll out of his contract with Mizora before going to the iron throne, you'll find Wyll's dad and can save him! Definitely very rewarding. Wyll deserves nice things.
If you sell Wyll to Mizora for the rest of eternity, Mizora will personally rescue his dad as well so... That's an option.
So I'm guessing you didn't save Barcus because if you do the Gondians and iron hand gnomes can make peace, Barcus basically becomes the new ruler of the iron hand and evicts wulbren from the iron hands
I enjoyed the Gondians mission. The underwater prison was totally memorable and I relished the fights where you needed to disable the devices which made their collars explode.
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I would *kill* to only have to wait a minute and a half to wait between turns at the actual -table-, but it's so damned tedious in a video game.
lol you're right but at least at a table you're chatting with friends and enjoying ur friends rolls instead of waiting for a computer to just do it
We have small hourglasses with a minute of time for our D&D fights to make combat go faster - one minute maximum for tactical discussion of the new round, then max 1 minute for every player to make their moves. Fortunately, I have it easy with playing a Warlock. :D
The self-same trial doesn’t actually perfectly copy you, they just copy your gear, current buffs, racial traits and class/mulitclass. As a Warlock, my copy used Arms of Hadar even though I didn’t have it because…..well, it’s garbage.
And at least with the gauntlet of Shar, I’m pretty sure it’s supposed to be frustrating, can’t let just anyone become a Dark Justiciar.
With the chicken chasing, it does have decent rewards if you killed the Owlbear and spared the cub, you can do the chicken chasing (which can be skipped by speaking to the cub and passing a check, but make sure you’re quick), as this lets you intimidate the goblin into letting you keep the cub and get 300 xp, which is actually a lot for that part of the game.
Actually, the self same trial copies your level in every class you have, found out the hard way in my Jack of All trades durge run where my copy had more than double my HP, extra attack, and level 3 spells alongside frenzy barbarian rage and battlemaster maneuvers
@@derpidius6306 Oh yeah, all classes you have get copied, just not perfectly, as they seem to have presets for each class and mixture of classes.
you can have the owlbear cub even without the chicken quest
@@ayshzx Good to know!
Funnily enough, speaking about self same trip copying you, in my first playthrough, I got to gauntlet of shar right about the time using self-same trial duping equipment got fixed.
I found out the hard way how TF they fixed item duping, completely by accident.
Laezel goes in, gets hit by her copy with battle master disarm strike, failed the save, drops her weapon, and that weapon just FUCKING DISSOLVES into the ground.😅
Lost like 30 min cause of this.
I dunno, a lot of the quests, like the Gondians, I do for story purposes. At that point in the game I'm usually to the point where I would be level 15 or so if it wasn't capped at 12, and I am just walking through the most difficult encounters. It's more about the story than the rewards in a lot of ways. The only thing I'm truly disappointed in is the lack of a solid evil playthrough. I'd really like to burn the emerald grove to the ground but the rewards are so brutal to the rest of your playthrough that it's just not worth it. Worse, my 2nd urge play through I was planning on full evil until I found out how bad it was, then I forced everyone else into a redemption arc as well. If I have to be good, so does everyone else.
I remember being really annoyed with "Stop the Presses". When you accept it, you have to complete it before a long rest otherwise it's failed and you get bad reputation in Baldur's Gate, and I also thought its gameplay was very frustrating. I don't even remember if there's a reward! It seems like your character is better off never starting the quest altogether, in my opinion (I played it soon after release so maybe Larian patched it since).
I think my biggest problem with the save the gondians quest is that they were just so freaking bad at surviving. Like after I had cleared the path to the staircase in the underwater prison, all this NPC needed to do was walk. Just....walk and go up the stairs. But no.... of course he didn't do that, so he died
Another thing that sucks is there are multiple ways of missing out on Zevlor, Halsin, Dammon, Mol, Arabella etc, besides raiding the Grove. Many players including myself assumed the game to be an open world kinda game, not a time quest, where if you fail a time quest early on it locks you out of a huge chunk of the game later on (I'm on board with choices leading to different present and future outcomes, but taking a decent portion of late game things based on early game decisions is frustrating). As a result people like myself start seeking online playthroughs/cheats because we don't want to miss out on huge chunks of the game in the future or if we replay the Grove/Goblin Camp portion we don't want to make a choice that removes large portions of the game later. and there are multiple ways you can lock yourself out even when you think you're taking all precautions. It won't put tree branches over the grove, but it will lock you out of the Grove characters going forward. On a most recent playthrough I decided to take the helping Kaghda to see the errors of her ways path, which worked in that regard, but locks you out of the Tiefling characters going forward.
On a first playthrough this made me paranoid going forward. Any difficult decision would cause me to look it up online and or feel less free or confident about roaming around and letting the game happen naturally
None of the quests are timed as far as I’ve seen, they do skip some parts or all of some of you go to certain areas though, like if you go to the Mountain Pass before saving them, the grove will get locked. But the Tieflings won’t leave until you have killed the goblin leaders, I’ve done the Kagha redemption like 3 times, if you tell Zevlor he thanks you for giving them more time, and asks you to take care of the goblins. You need to do kagha’s quest before killing the goblins. tldr: you can take as much time as you want, as long as you don’t go to far ahead of where the game expects you to be. Not intuitive to some, but not timed
The chasing the chicken being "the only quest in the game where the controls feel clunky". That is a statement with a lot of balls. But perhaps I'm confusing shiity with clunky.
Sincerely I had no problem with Karlach's ending, I just didn't like the fact that you basically only need to find two pieces of infernal iron to advance her quest and nothing more. Beside that, I think it's pretty realistic that you cannot save or fix everyone: Karlach had only two options, die or getting back to Avernus, and the fact that she can go back there with a friend - or a lover - is a "bittersweet" ending that I think totally works with her. It would have been so predictable to simply and conveniently find a way to fix her heart.
Love your videos. Keep em coming!
Thank you! Will do!
Out of all the quests that one with Oskar the artist is one of the few where i voluntarily lost 3 hours of progress. I got to act 3 before any major patches so when I accidentally wandered into that house thru the backdoor I screwed myself over.
I had that eye you get from the icepick lobotomy and apparently when you sense invisibility on the ghosts it would put u in combat. The next issue is that the area of effect would /work through floors/. So I would get into combat with enemies that were so far away that they wouldnt bother approaching me. ON TOP OF THAT, when I finally crawled my way up to their bedroom, they would refuse to talk to me as long as I was in combat. And you cant continue the quest until you talk to his wife. Only i didnt know that until AFTER i spent an eternity crawling up several flights of stairs while the ghosts in the kitchen did donuts.
I eventually gave up and reloaded my past save and went thru the front door and everything was fine. I didnt even get into combat.
Exact same thing happened to me. I ended up reloading and keeping my durge far far away while I sent in shadowheart to uncurse all the skulls. it was soooo slow going on the first time.
The Soft-Step Trial is easy with Turn-Based mode and/or Invisibility. The Self-Same Trial is easy if you ambush your copies and is even easier if you have Radiant damage at your disposal. The Faith Leap Trial is easy if you use the floor in front of the bowl like a map, the gold dictating the path you need to follow. Use Speak with Animals to talk the chicken (or Owlbear Cub) into going between the posts after the game starts.
Self same trial gets completey easy when you learn how literally it takes 'copying your party: Before you interact with the blood letting pool outside, dismiss all but one party member to camp. For your one remaining member,have them unequip all gear and weapons. Now you can interact with the blood pool. Bam you now have only one opponent, who has no weapons or armor. Once you're in the room with the duplicate, you can re-equip your gear.
The Mindflayer colony mind re-mapping puzzle has a high effort to reward ratio. I guess it's not really a quest though.
BTW this video got removed from my subscription feed (after I first watched it, but all the other regulars are there-I hope).
That puzzle is so lame I never do it after the first time it’s like it was made for kids. But it’s still better than DoS2’s end game puzzle before the last boss to make the blood drop into a certain area
DoS2’s spelling puzzle was cool though I liked that one
Larian not making DLC for the game is one of the biggest let downs I can think of in gaming over the last decade
Man, I had an idea how Karlach's ending would go as far as choices my first playthrough, considering I'd romanced her, I thought I was going to be okay. During the docks sequence I had a few mini heartattacks that I had somehow been locked out and she was going to burn up in front of me. Thank the gods that wasn't the case.
Look her ending isn't perfect. But after the amendment of the epilogue, it has a silver lining. It's up to your imagination how the forge heist would go. More importantly, she's still alive and not alone. Avernus wasn't even her biggest fear. It was the loneliness and betrayal she faced. She makes a point to highlight those two things enough throughout the game in dialogue with her that they might as well be giant neon signs. She's willing to go with Wyll too if you didn't romance her. I have to imagine she's even more content being there with the person she loves if you do go. I know I plan to do it every single run, afterall Karlach is bae.
My friend romanced Wyll in our playthrough, and both him and Wyll were able to go to Avernus with Karlach. At first I was disappointed because my character was the one who built the bond with her (but I chose to have my character kill himself at the end haha), but I think PC + Wyll + Karlach to Avernus ending was really cute in a way! Especially with the added epilogue stuff
Finally, someone who understands Karlach! For her it does seem to be about the loneliness and the trust. That's why she's my favorite companion because I feel like she's a lot like me. I love her!
@@Sky-si1iv K-bae is my pookie bear lol. She's always in my party, rom'ed, and spoiled af in my runs. Somebody gets all the best gear, diamonds, beers, and stuffed animals we find lmao.
If my players want to continue playing their characters after finishing the "Descent into Avernus" D&D campaign, then I will let them up with Wyll and Karlach to go after the forge for fixing her engine for good. :)
@@ingakozuruba9145 "Fuck yes!"
I always double misty step my way trough trial 1, unequip weapons for trial 2 and,again,misty step trough trial 3. But the chicken quest is still ass
Honestly with trial 1, you can just pick the locks and put someone in the final room before even starting the trial. Then once you start it, you can just immediately pick up the orb.
Soft step you just lock pick, go to the end, start the trial and pick up the Orb LOL
Yeah learned that one much later lol
If you save Barcus Wroot in both act 1 and act 2, you can actually get him to take over the Ironhand Gnomes if you've saved the Gondians. You can persuade the Ironhands that Wulbren sucks, and get Barcus to take over. Then the Ironhands will still be there to help you against the Nether Brain.
To the bit about the "free the artist" quest: Not only was it annoying in the ways that you listed, but also aggravating for me because so damn much was going on that it crashed my game 3 times. Had to kill those skulls just to make it stable.
That's actually sad that the game punishes evil playthroughs. You just cut most quests for nothing or almost nothing. I think that makes sense. Most players won't do that on first playthrough so larian focused on making the most interesting outcomes for the majority of players but still that's really bad for replayability
The worst part is they asked players to test the evil path during early access and even then with only part of act 1 people said it needed more content, and then the game comes out and there is nearly no exclusive evil content and even worse is that going evil blocks content.
i feel like you should be able to have more companions in an evil playthrough. there are 25 different ones in bg1 and they all have different conditions to be met, and some only join if you're morally bankrupt
Sazza companion when
yes ! i feel like the fact that you're evil should've real impacts on the game and that some quests should change or that you could unlock other quests that you don't get otherwise. i really should've done my evil play through first because oh my god how boring it was. i wish they had put something to make you feel like an ass because of your bad choices, like in undertale kinda
The one exception: Becoming unholy assassin gives you the best armor (maybe the best item) in the game.
You say that if you kill Isobel it locks you out of Wubren, but can you not rescue him and send him to your camp? I am genuinely asking because I have always sent him to LL, but the option is there
I don't know about the camp, but I'm pretty sure when you rescue him after LLI has fallen, you can tell him to just stay on the water until you've cleared out moonrise or sth and it will still make him appear in Act 3. I want to do this again in my current playthrough, so we'
ll see how it goes I guess
I think if u rescue Wulbren before visiting Last Light Inn, he says that they will stay in the boat in the open waters.
Unless you are up to a challenge you can save yourself a lot of headache and just pre-clear the foundry before freeing the Gondians. I tried it the "intended" way and Toobin always got one-shot by something.
I didn’t think about using knock!!! W knowledge thank you 🙏🏼
I agree with 9 of these whole-heartedly, but... Karlach's quest I have to disagree with. It's nice world building and dark story. Karlach's ending to me is still happy. She doesn't need to fight in avernus after the end of the quest, at least not in the blood war. Just against those that want her back. Not to mention, the ending where she dies? She's happy and fulfilled. Probably in an afterlife that isn't the hells for her sacrifice. A bitter sweet ending that left me with a teary smile. There's too many stories out there where the happy ending is always just perfect, not enough bittersweet story lines. I commend BG3 for stepping out there with a story that's not completely out of control to steer for a happy ending, but has circumstances with actual weight that leave you feeling things long after the story is done for a long time.
I fully agree. Her death as the default ending to her quest was great and one of the biggest emotional Moments you can have on a first playthrough.
It would be a straight Up downgrade to get a Happy ending for it.
If you play Karlach as your main origin character, you'll realize that she's not at all satisfied, she wanted to continue living and is mad at the world for the hand she was dealt, even to the bitter end. How could anyone be happy with that life? Being forced to fight in the hells for 10 years, finally escaping only to find out that you're going to die no matter what choice you make? Her ending was no where near bittersweet, it was just sad, through and through - no different than a child who never got to live.
The critique is about the limited ways (lack thereof really) of exploring the options to fix her predicament, not general story and background. Game teases players with connections and possible resolutions with Gondians but doesnt even allow to interact with them in any way. Suddenly your party and Karlach herself forgets that Gondians probably have all the tools and knowledge from building the fricking Steelwatchers of infernal iron. This is big fat middle finger towards the players.
Her Avernus ending is acceptable yes, she's not imprisoned anymore, finds people who value her life more than she ever could and can look forward for fixes inside Avernus. But suicide ending being happy? This is one of the biggest bollocks i've ever seen. Imagine your whole adult life being imprisoned in neverending war, suffering it completely alone to the point of making your life lose any purpose. By sheer luck u escape it and travel with likeminded tadpoled people to save the world from Grand Design, only to realise that despite giving all you could your "friends" dont bother figthing for your fate and you're doomed to that purposeless infernal life... She's so "happy" in the afterlife that she doesnt want to atttend Withers' party, i wonder why?... This is just depressingly sad, how can someone call it bitter sweet is beyond me.
The issue with tragic or bad endings is that they need to fit the context. BG3 is a role playing game based on high fantasy DnD, not a Cyberpunk or other dystopian genre. RPGs and DnD campaigns are about trying multitude ways to reach the resolution. It doesnt always needs to be perfect ending, it can be done with obstructions or limitations, but not having really chance to explore different options and being doomed from the start is straight from war time drammas and its the antithesis of RPGs.
@@Than211 I agree. Karlach literally just spent 10 years in Avernus... to escape, potentially find love, and then die? Hell no! She deserves so much better! It's not bittersweet, there is no sweetness in the best character dying after suffering so much, and getting just a taste of life.
It's like in dnd where the dm tries to design something and players go "detect magic"
the quest with lady jannath was kind of the worst? no idea wtf i was supposed to be doing, with the see invisibility eye from volo, i was drawn into combat against the poltergeists right away, lady jannath died bc of the aoe from nyrulna and i almost had a whole party wipe from something (the torches?) causing my party psychic damage. i ended the quest by killing oskar and getting the fuck out of there. no idea wtf was going on in there
In one of my playthroughs I also ended it early by killing Oskar because the game stopped letting me get close to the skulls to try and cast remove curse on them/bludgeon them to bits. At first, I could get my characters up close and the skulls wouldn't blast me back until their next turn but then they started insta-blasting me. I figured the artist wasn't worth it and Jannath was better off without him anyway.
My favourite quest was killing Karlach, such early OP robe for Abjuration Gale
kinda lame they patched out ability to fuck over mizora by abusing loopholes in her stupid contract
which made it go from favourite to least favourite.
Imagine killing a great character for a robe that gets obsoleted by the end.
As soneome who likes to play evil MCs every now and then, i am Incredible Dissappointed in Larian for making Minthara joinable in not evil playthroughs, at least they could have made options to convince wyll or Karlach to stay if you raid the grove in return, to balance that out.
You can design a highly advanced infernal gadget to destroy the steel foundry while learning about "tech no one has ever seen before", but you can't be smarter than dammon to fix karlach's heart. Just lol. My biggest dig at her is talking about the loneliness she experienced for 10 years. Like...does this game director even know what gamers are? lol.
The reason you cannot see the path in the shar maze is because you go to the inn and get isabella's blessing! The first time I played baldurs gate I got lost and couldn't find the inn (I have a terrible sense of direction) and ended up killing the arachnid dude and getting the faries blessing before going to shar's gauntlet. The maze was easy peasy because I could see the path with no problem what so ever. Also, on my next play through, I didn't end up talking to her because I'm a dumb ass and didn't go upstairs.
TLDR: If you do the shar maze without isabella's blessing, you can see the path.
Am I the only one who thinks that the Gauntlet of Shar is the best quest line in act 2?
I love act 2 and that’s the only part of the act that I hate doing lol
I thought it was fantastic! .......the first time :P I'd say that about half of the quests in the video only reveal the tedium on later playthroughs.
I really like it too, it’s not really a challenge, it’s an easy way to get Shadowheart’s approval up to 100, and I really like the music 😊
I am glad I'm not the only one who's really tired of the Gauntled of Shar questline