Can You Beat Baldur's Gate 3 Without Killing Anything?
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- čas přidán 10. 05. 2024
- The telltale sign of a great RPG is when you can play anyway you want to. So can you playthrough Baldur's Gate 3 without ever killing? In this video we take the challenge and find the answers once and for all. If you enjoyed the video leave a like and check out some more videos on the channel Thanks so much!
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
00:18 - Character Creation/Tutorial/Rules
01:30 - Act 1
03:37 - Act 2
10:23 - Act 3
17:50 - Conclusion
This content is not commissioned or sponsored by Larian Studios, Blizzard Entertainment, Nor Anyone Else. It is purely fan content. - Hry
If you enjoyed this make sure to check out my latest Challenge Run, Where I attempted to Beat Baldur's Gate 3 As the Unluckiest Man In the World:
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It's poetic to see Gortash blown up by the Steel Watch. Great play through!
Blud blew the crèche up
MY GOSH Doing the lords work my guy this video must have been so hard to think through, i applaud you subbing rn, i look forward to more content.! i have yet to beat the game still but i have gotten to act three twice.
Absolutely fascinating that the Steel Watchers actually have dialogue and functions for a PC that never killed anyone or anything, something pretty much nobody would do.
They have it if you never killed anyone in specific areas of the game, but most players would have done it. It checks for the goblin camp; grymforge, and moonrise towers.
Ah, the same ones it references in the regular dialogue. It's still a lovely touch. Just goes to show the extra hard work and attention to detail they put in.
Not unheard of for Larian! There was a similar TOTALLY UNFAIR judgement in a cathedral near the end of dos2 where you could only pass a test if you never killed.
Pacifist runs / attempts are a time honoured tradition in RPGs, so I'm not surprised. Like it's still fantastic they covered it, and the game is still crazy how much work has gone into it, but they knew from their Divinity (both original series and Original Sin) players and general cRPG players that people are gonna Pacifist it.
I'm just glad that there isn't that many required fights - really just Orin. You can even skip Gortash with Durge, but that's kinda just trading one body for another (though it's cutscene and out of your control, so YMMV).
I’m guessing they are linked to the scrying eyes around the game? Makes sense, and I don’t think they do anything else?
“Most companions seem pretty murdery, so I didn’t recruit them”
*recruits Minthara*
BUT he said he could fix her, shut up xD
4:23 Look at that smile! How could you say no to that smile?
The irony of leaving Orin alive in this run when her entire thing is killing people at the altar of Bhaal. I'm pretty sure that alone would make her more angry than actually killing her.
Yeah for sure NOT killing causes more people to die in a run if you think about it
@@ProxyGateTactician
Pretty sure you are forced into dominating the world too since you can't kill the brain either
@@ProxyGateTacticianin some cases at least
This would irk her on a fundamental level. You can find that Sarevok (grandpa/murder tribunal judge) writes that death is ascension towards the comfort and uniformity of Bhaal's embrace. Even Orin would be smart enough to recognize that she was going to be murdered at the hands of your party at that moment and likely already accepted what awaited her. It would be infuriating to have that denied when you were ready for it. Especially in the exact same spot that so many others got what you didn't.
Entire run is a giant middle finger to Bhaal.
4:19 "Look, I know she's a brutal and empathiless killer, but I can fix her!"
Truly the mantra of Baldur's Gate 3.
"but I can fix her"; truly the mantra of my real-life 🤪
Why is Minthara alive in this playthrough?
@@orthranus3352He did not complete the druid grove and kill her, therefore she was alive in moonrise to be saved :)
I was literally thinking the same exact thing and was going to make a comment till i saw yours already lol 😂
dnd in general boy
most players: "you can only get Minthara on an evil genocidal run" Proxy: *gets Minthara by litterally not hurting a fly*
Yes, but the grove will be destroyed by the decisions made! And all the tieflings and druids killed.
So basically it is an evil genocidal run -- even when your own hand was not involved. It is called "killing by omission"
Yea for sure way more people die by you not killing anything if you think about the story. Which is a bit sad 😞
@@ProxyGateTactician It is, but it is also realistic. Think about the 2nd WW. When the allies would have attacked Germany 1939, Germany and the Nazi Regime most likely had fallen. Instead they waited and made no real attempt to stop Hitler. It is very clear, that an early attack when Germany was attacking Poland, would have stopped the slaughter early.
The reality of this world shows, that sometimes shedding blood is necessary to save lives.
@@ProxyGateTactician yeah that.... as a pacifist irl, that kinda bothered me :/
@@tobak952
I prefer "practical pacificism".
"I love peace, and if you threaten to disrupt my peace, I will end you and your line forever. So remain peaceful."
this run is the entire reasoning behind not pulling the lever on the trolley problem
pretty much in the end by not killing anyone WAY more people end up dying.
underrated comment! Makes me wanna force phil 101 students to watch this video.
@@ProxyGateTactician
Like all the Tieflings.
@@bunnerkins dw I'm already here :)
If you pull the lever, you are legally liable for that death
I am beyond impressed. Especially by the Steel Watcher at the drawbridge recognising you haven't killed anyone. Absolutely mad.
Yeah me too, I didn't even know that's a thing.
As stated in the other comments, they only recognize killings in front of the scrying eyes which they are connected to. If you don't kill anyone in the goblin camp, grymforge and moonrise it will also state that your record is clean
Blows my mind that they actually included a "your record is clean' line for the Steel Watchers. They've been waiting for you!!! :) Very cool challenge :)))
you get that if a scrying eye never sees you committing any crimes. you can sneak and kill them with a ranged attack in turn mode
in fact it's a request to do so in a grymforge quest given by the duergar merchant. you can do that quest many other ways, but it's neat that that's an option
I always try to take out the scrying eyes before doing anything shady. The scrying eyes in the warden's office in Moonrise are the hardest to sneak on, but still doable.
@@dopaminedrought395I’ve always taken them out before doing shady stuff, but didn’t think about the obvious that it *would not be facing you* for it to work. I know I killed all the scrying eyes, but usually first in a fight/for the quest
@@kingofgrim4761 the first time I actually thought I'd be in the clear if I was just behind the eye 💀 had to learn the hard way that they can see 360 degrees AND see invisibility
The steel watch letting you into Baldur’s Gate is crazy. I can’t believe this challenge was possible, awesome video!
Right?! I had always been rejected in other play throughs
Gortash literally lets you in, what are you talking about? Are you talking about Wyrms Crossing? You can literally just jump in there from a cliff and then unlock the fast travel point and then fast travel your party in there.
@@kylevernonthey're obviously referring to the fact that there is a different dialogue possibility to let you into the city, aside from the one that probably 99% of players get.
@@kylevernon10:50 they wouldnt normally do this
@@TheSidetrackYT it's kinda similar to what Larian did in Divinity: Original Sin 2. There's a church that if you never killed someone, stole anything, or defiled a corpse, then the path to the final area will easily open up to you. The easiest way to do it is to hire a fresh new hireling for that part as it's recorded as someone who never stole, killed, or defiled. I'll try doing the same here in BG3 with a hireling just to know if it also works here.
I was so ready to see you just cheese most fights with non-lethal damage, but was pleasantly surprised it was used only once.
This was an insane challenge run. Props to you, and props to Larian for making the game so perfectly balanced that this is possible :D
Thanks a ton!
To be fair, the thing with Orin being stuck as a child is more of a bug in the game than game being balanced
@@shachar9111My parents ignored me just as much as the player ignored Yenna. Seems realistic to me.
The freedom of choice in this game is unreal. I can’t believe you pulled this off. Well done!
I highly doubt he didn't kill anything. I didn't watch this but it's only an 18 minute video. Where is the other countless hours proof that he didn't kill anything. It's clickbait crap that most CZcamsrs seem to do.
@@Brentt777 womp womp
@@Brentt777I have a lot of hours in this game. He seemed to do everything required, although he did bend the rules a little by using exploding barrels and moving grenades. If he wanted to he could’ve used the kobold barrels for those fights where he didn’t have any Allies. He also could’ve summoned Dame Aylin for the elder brain and won, I think.
The only serious doubt I have is that he seemed not to know that Dame Aylin was invulnerable, she would’ve just gotten back up on the ketheric fight, and he’s CTRL C CTRL V commenting.
@@Brentt777 After playing this game for roughly 125 hours, I'm only at the end of act 3.
I totally agree with your comment now.
@@grim5910he had the blood of lathander he blew the crèche up dawg
FYI you can talk the spider guy to give you a lantern and to go into the shadows. You can find them later possessed by the shadow curse, but you technically didn't kill them
You can also go the underdark route maybe and get guided by the harpers
No, harpers will bring you to the spider guy, they don't have the lantern
@@dakreya Well they will lead you to Last Light Inn at least. And you could have them deal with the spider guy for you in that quest and pinch the moonlantern
I think that's technically still telling them to go off themselves
He didn't need to do anything to survive the Shadowcurse, he has the Blood of Lathandar. That protects you from the Shadowcurse.
"A final fantasy character"
"A handsome young man"
Love the way you rag in gorty lol
lol from the moment I saw him I didn't even realize he was the handsome younger man and I was confused for weeks
@@ProxyGateTactician He looks about 40, right? :D But I guess when you compare him to Ketheric...
@@ProxyGateTactician its because he came up with the rumors himself, no other way it could have happened
Loved your narration. I'm so glad you picked Minthara in your party she's perfect for the theme of this run ☺
Thank you! 😄
I must have sat the whole video watching with my jaw open, absolutely fascinating and such commitment to go through with this insane plan! WOuld have never thought it possible! Incredible job!!!!
Wow, thank you!
@@ProxyGateTactician We have to thank YOU! First, to have the idea, second to execute the idea and third to share it. I am at my second (story mode) play through. BG3 is a time consuming game. I can not imagine to make myself a pacifist play through. Amazing!
"We struck an alliance with this handsome young man" - this will never not be funny haha. Young Gortash and his easy smile winning hearts left and right!
A hella impressive playthrough, thank you for putting it all together, was throughly entertained!
"I can fix her".
My man.
It may not have worked on any of my ex girlfriends, but at least in games it's a viable strategy.
As a fun little trick I learned form my (failed) full pacifist run, you actually don't need any umbral gems at all (I used one for the elevator, but that is besides the point). You can actually open the door at the bottom using knock as well.
Turning Gortash into a Gondian was brilliant, couldnt stop laughing
Game of the Year. Amazing
It deserved it
Hell yeah!
starfield could NEVER
if only it was finished 😔
@@finnalityFinished? What do you mean?
Had a ton of fun playing through Baldur's Gate and finding creative ways to get past things. If you're interested in seeing anymore like this let me know! (Although they'd probably have to be longer because it was difficult to cut a game this long down to 18 minutes)
This was amazing and I would love to see more stuff like this, especially if it’s longer. Your dedication is insane
This was amazing haha! Great job man and awesome vid! +1 sub!
perfection ! do it again !
Impressed that you can cut a full playthrough down to less than 20 minutes! I'd watch self imposed rulesets of BG3, 30 minutes would be a good length probably, even 40
Impressive. Well done. Interesting video.
This is hilarious and props to your ingenuity for finding ways to not kill anyone... directly.
To be the devil's advocate, I'd say casting hold person or buffing an NPC who will kill your enemies counts as being an accomplice and indirect killing. It's like giving an active shooter your gun, or extra mags so that they can kill people. I only thought of this since you counted convincing the enemy to kill themselves as killing and it won't hold up in court. Well, restraining someone (=casting hold person) so that someone else can kill them also wouldn't held up in court. And so I think if you see casting hold person, buffing NPC, and setting up explosive barrels as not killing, then convincing the enemy to off themselves should also count as not killing and is okay to do in this run.
All in all, amazing video, subbed for creativity.
I'd say the explosive barrels are fine since it's literally the Netherbrain's own attack that kills her. He didn't force her to detonate the barrels.
@@RedMage8BTGoing to someone's house and filling it up with explosive gas so that when they turn on the gas stove it blows up the house it's definitely murder. The fact that your trap is triggered by the brain attacking might have changed things if it wasn't trying to drive you out of it's house/mind.
Gortash is a bit different as it was his own booby traps that are triggered by someone just walking around the room wrong.
I enjoy watching people do funky challenge runs like this, so this video was already fun for me just for that. But I'll also compliment the editing! Turning THAT much footage into a tight 18min video is really impressive. Kudos!
Thanks! I try to aim for 20ish minutes, but it's getting harder and harder lol. Working on a new one now and the initial cut is 24 min so I'll probably end up cutting a lot more
Do longer videos man, I'd love to watch it
Recently I've been wondering if it's possible to kill every last NPC in the game (and if not, how many are actually required to be kept alive). But this challenge seems even more interesting. Great video!
Withers: Exists
@@ProxyGateTactician technically he's not alive, so he can't be killed for obvious reasons.
Yes. Yes you can. I've did it with my first Dark Urge run. It's extremely difficult and makes for a helluva long playthrough lol. Oh and by 100% it meant killing companions as well. For Gale, Orin kidnapped him and I found if I let Orin kill him, his bomb doesn't go off strangely enough.
@@hobbitpsiwhy not just take his hand
@@michaelzoller5303 Cause it's more satisfying watching Orin jump up and run her blades through his skull.
Wow I didn't even know Steel Watch could let the player into Baluder's Gate. I finished alr 3 playthroughs but bg3 still amazes me lol. Also great content 🤩
i finished my first play through a few days ago and they let me in aswell, was kinda surprised when my friends told me that they didnt let them in. yall be doing some naughty stuff :D
I just found this out in my friendly monk playthrough and I was like... HUH? I'm NOT going to prison? Wtf XD
Yeah I think the trigger is attacking stuff in front of the eyeballs in the goblin camp, grymforge, or moonrise
@@ProxyGateTactician OHHHH that actually makes so much sense
@@ProxyGateTactician that could be the case, but i cleared out the goblin camp, cant remember if i managed to kill the eye before it noticed tho
I wonder if using "knock out" still counts as not killing, even for the watchers. Either way, extremely fun to watch play through! Thanks for taking the time to do all this!
Im glad you went through all acts. You're a real one. So tired of all these "can you beat like this" and they only do act one lmao.
Thanks!
I tried to take inspiration from Mitten Squad (I really loved all his challenge videos). I wish he still uploaded. He always did a fallout video in roughly 20 min so I wanted a similar length
@@ProxyGateTactician lol i was just thinking of how you reminded me of mitten squad while watching this
@@not_optikk yeah :( really sad to hear he passed away last month
great work! the run is impressive and your commentary and editing are spot on. instantly subbed!
Much appreciated!
that was freakin' amazing!! the amount of dedication and and planning that went into this are amazing. thank you so much!!
I really hope the devs see this. Impressive work!
I love this video and your narration was insane, well done! I thought such a playthrough would be impossible!
Getting the club of hill giant strength at the arcane tower and respecing your str into int would be really useful for a lot of the later ability checks.
I havent watched most of the video yet since its 2 am and I have to go to work tomorrow, but I'd also probably dump con for wis. Duegar's invis lets you basically ignore damage, and refreshes on the start of combat, so there is basically no need to get con. Also, dipping one into light cleric for sanctuary and warding flare is really good for staying alive
Sanctuary is big yeah. I had it planned for a key strategy later in the video (but it ended up not working)
Absolutely loved this video! It's like watching a pacifist's guide to navigating a fantasy war zone. Your approach was as skillful as it was non-lethal. The creativity and effort you put into this challenge was both impressive and inspiring. It's videos like these that add a whole new level of excitement to gaming :)
Well done. Not only your playthrough is impressive, but also the narration are very entertaining. Congratulation on this achievement
Incredible work! I expected you had to abandon the run at some point but you made it you magnificent person :D
as a speedrunner of this game i clicked on this not thinking it would be possible and im kinda amazed you pulled this off
I had to borrow a lot of the speedrunner's strategies though. Geniuses in that community
@@ProxyGateTactician yeah some of the people in our discord come up with strats that i dont even know how they began figure out but yknow what im not complaining
@@delphara I’m always lurking in there amazed by MrOgam’s posts every time
This was the craziest thing I watched in a long time. Thank you for this :).
Glad you enjoyed it!
Loved the video! Your list type vids are on regular rotation but I always love a good lets play and you did it wonderfully! ❤ would love to see more stuff like this.
That was beyond amazing, thank you so much!
This was such a phenomenal video ProxyGateTactician.
I don't know how many of these type of challenge runs you could manipulate in BG3, but even if the challenge is eventually concluded as impossible, I'd still watch the sh*t out of those future vids!
Congrats on the success of the video and cracking into the algorithm mate!
Damn dude you make the most engaging and awesome BG3 videos! This was so much fun to watch. Bravo, seriously clever problem solving, I absolutely loved it and can't wait to see what you come up with next!
Thanks! It’s worth the effort to read stuff like this
This was fascinating! Incredible work!
This video is awesome! Thank you so much for taking the time to make it! As someone who is not very good at baldurs combat, this has given me a lot of options to avoid the real annoying fights!
Yet again the insanely high quality content. Thank you for such attention to detail!!
Much appreciated!
great video, learning that you don't need one of the umbral gems is clutch for me. I love how these challenges force you to learn and use underutilized mechanics like non lethal attacks
Amazing work! I didn't think this could have been possible without your very creative and clever walkthrough!
This truly is an amazing feat. Well done!
The dedication? Insane. Honestly, good job on this because I deadass never thought this kinda play through wouldn’t be possible 😂
Enjoyed the video thanks for posting!
Absolutely insane. Great run. Love the content man. Keep it up 👍😎😁
Great job achieving this! Also, your commentary is hilarious! Loved the video!
Thanks! Appreciate it just posted another similar one.
Edit: replies have corrected me. This was patched in patch1.
Idk what difficulty you were playing on, but in Act 2 inside of Shar's Temple, the final door that requires 3 stones to unlock can be opened with Knock on Balanced difficulty (probably Explorer as well but idk, never tried). That's how I bypassed it all in my very first playthrough only to find out that it's not possible on tactician anymore while doing my second playthrough :D
rofl I never knew that. I always did the trials
It's not the difficulty, they patched that door in one of the first patches.
@@LadyDeutza Ooh, my bad! Guess I was lucky to do it so early :D
Yep, I still have the three orbs as a souvenir from my first playthrough by using knock. Unfortunately, they patched it in patch 1.
good job man, very fun watch, thank you for sharing!
Incredible. I love this! Thanks for sharing
Incredible run
This is legitimately amazing. Really impressed by the work that went into this video
Thanks a ton!
Awesome! That’s some real dedication & god level patience to do stuff like this. I was cheering you on the entire video! Well done!
This is awesome!!! So much thinking had to have gone into it lol, major props!!
What a fantastic challenge. I was worried about how you'd manage the Netherbrain but that was great.
Love the video and the dedication. You're easily my favorite BG3 content creator
Thanks! This one was super fun. Finally got to give this a go after seeing Mitten Squad's Fallout videos for years
This is actually kind of amazing. Good job!
That was remarkable! Loved the playthrough! All the shenanigans u had to do to... What an incredible game.
You came across some serious road blocks but were able to over come them using your wits. Truly an amazing watch!
Great Challenge run, with a lot of creative thinking to avoid doing direct damage. thank you very much for sharing.
Thanks for watching
Love the dedication bro!
So much I never saw or thought about! Brilliant perspective! Adapt and overcome always
Quite a job. Well done.
This is the best challenge run I've seen and I've seen alot
Appreciate it! I really wanted to do it all in 1 video and not be too long but that's a real challenge for a game like this lol
You sir, are a legend. This was nuts!
Amazing content! I love the way you include these jokes and references in your narration. Keep up the great work! ❤
The mentality of every BG3 player. “I can fix them”
Fun challenge, hope you do some more
Yoooo! This was legendary! Well done! 👏👏👏
What an incredible watch 👏😳 I'm completely in awe and have no words left.
I came here expecting for you to just use the non lethal option but daaaaamn i am mighty impressed 👏👏👏
Amazing job👏👏
Thanks 🔥
Hella impressive! Great work!
thanks for making this video! i enjoyed it a lot! hope you are having a great day.
I love the StarCraft music in the background! I used to listen to the soundtrack just for fun it's a great one. Also, I appreciated this video because I'm to to BG3 and as a newbie it's hard to figure out different ways to approach combat other than just murder lol
i love that you only in act 3 had to use the non Lethal attack :D. i was sure you would knock out many enemies like this
I'm absolutely obsessed with all those super-cut style challenge videos of BG3.
Also, greaat video mate.
Great job, it was fun to watch :) And some interesting combos you found there too. I think your idea was nice and thanks for the efforts and sharing! :)
Glad you enjoyed!
This game is a masterpiece. You can get away with literally anything.
It really amazes even myself
Lovely video
Thanks!
That was hella sick. Kudos to you
Really impresive ! the video was really fun to watch
Great video, very entertaining. Its pretty amazing ho much is possible in BG3. The Orin bit was a bit much of glitch abuse for my taste, but thats just me. Great job!
If you fight her normally there is no way to get her to drop the stone unless killing her. You have to use this child glitch to get her to drop the weapon. I tried like 5 hours alone trying to find a way to get hers without this method.
Disarming her doesn't work.
Pickpocketing doesn't work.
Also no one else will help fight her.
So I just accepted this as a viable enough method.
@@ProxyGateTactician does armour of agathys, basically a reflect damage, count as killing someone or the attacker killing himself in your rules ?
@@petrusbubba4717 in my rules that would have been me killing them. Since in the combat log it shows my character as having done a kill
@@ProxyGateTactician with the fire blood passive (from act3 drow) and continue to play with barrel powder, you could slay orin the same way u did the brain, no ?
@@petrusbubba4717 oh that would have been clever and probably worked but I don’t know what the combat lot would say in that situation. It probably would credit me with the kill
it seems like you created BG version of Dalai Lama, that's awesome playthrough👍
Love DnD because of unlimited ways to resolve adventures
Ah yes, Dalai Lama would definitely approve deadly booby traps or paralysing people while your ally guts them.
Best way to play D&D is the throw the DM completely off his game by doing the unexpected. So glad we can do that in BG3 by playing in any way we want.
amazing video, i enjoyed a lot, left without words
This video is so awesome
I actually got the Moonlantern from the spider guy by convincing him to give it to me and then told him to just walk into the shadow curse without it because my cleric prayer would protect him 😅 He doesn’t die just gets possessed… so still within the rules I guess (don’t know if it works without cleric tho)
I didn’t even know about that interaction that’s really cool
he has ''undead'' status
It works. Did it on my Ranger/rogue build.
"I can fix her"
i thought about doing this run. thank you for giving pointers!! Thats awesome. I probably would not have considered all that
Incredibly well done mate! I wouldn't have thought this possible. Really fun watch
Thanks a lot!
Hmm, I wonder if there is a way to avoid killing the brain by taking it over at the end.
I think if you turn into a mindflayer and use the netherstones yourself, then you can takeo ver the brain when you defeat it in a normal fight.
However, that would need the Orphic Hammer, and so you'd need to kill Raphael I think, unless there is a exploit to escape the House of Hope without killing anyone.
You don’t need to kill Raphael for the hammer, just take his deal
You can also just have the Emperor turn you into a mind flayer.
This is canon now
excellent work my man! ✨
Thanks
Very-very nice, thank you for the fun video!