Idk if they changed the Brs again for us tanks, but from 3.0 to 4.0 with all the Sherman’s (the non 76 mm), I just had a terrible time. It was supper painful to play as those early Sherman’s. But idk about now. Lol.
@@matad1917 "In reality" 😂 Have you operated a BMP? Because I did in the army, field exercise included, and no, it doesn't "sink" because of "small waves"
@@Henry_the_Eighth_ I replied, but it looks like it got deleted or something, probably because it contained a link. I admit I don't have experience with it. It states in the manual of the vehicle that it can withstand about 0.5 a meter high waves among other things. I learned this in a video named "BMP: amphibious or a watery grave" and you can be a judge of the information it provides if you decide to watch it. My point is, similar limitations are probably the reason a lot of vehicles in the game are not considered amphibious like the one in the video, but the bmp still is.
@@matad1917 I mean, Soviet/Russian designed APCs are known for their water crossing capabilities, without much preparation. Most you need to do is to hold all the hatches/doors sealed, no "skirts", no airbags, just go ahead and start floating. Western designs do require preparation before going waterborne.
@@Natediggetydogyeah they both probably could float but the M901 doesn't have the amphibious package (and likely never recieved it. ATGM carriers and water don't mix well.)
BMP series drivers only need to close any open hatches and push a button to swim, M163 AAA setup needs its ammunition removed to swim. These are smooth-brain comments.
@@dutchdragon2472are you forreal calling on Russian bias because the Soviets and Russians designed IFVs to be amphibious unlike the Americans? And the BMP is very unique with that juicy 30mm. You can all seethe and cope.
They removed the ability to float bc people were complaining abaout it killing them while in the water. So the ability was removed, but Soviet BMPs and a couple other vechicles were allowed to keep their flotation devices. So they fixed one problem by making more.
Apparently, this vehicle needs add-on equipment to float, normally. While the bmp has its amphibious features built in. So realistically, it can't swim with it out those features.
Imagine a Russian game maker removing half the shit that makes the other nations vehicles better.. i swear if i get an abrams and die to a t90 or some shit I'ma be pissed 😂 battle has shown there aint no Russian tanks capable of killing an abrams
Well the orignial m113 was amphibious but later variants were too heavy to be amphibious but some elements of its amphibious capabilities remained. Im sure its still on the vehicle for fording rivers but im positive this variant lost its amphibious capabilities because of weight
Was on 8,7 br the other day in the map where in the middle there's a river, then i was pushing until i see a friendly T-55 trying to shoot at the water and constantly using the MG until i peek from the other side seing that thing floating hidding from the T-55 it was so...unreal. Since that i knew those things can float. LMAO
It’s crazy because the M163 used to be able to float, like it was fully capable of floating. But after one of the updates, it doesn’t work… I would sometimes sit in water on certain maps as some planes don’t expect AA fire from water in a ground match
Actually, this is realistic. The M117 chassis was never able to float. It could however cross swamps and rivers that weren't too deep and that flap that extends forwards was to stop water from blocking the driver's view port.
@@Anonymous-hv9yw Right nerfing LAVAD gun from 91 to 63mm penetration, nerfing A-10 gun from 91mm to 79mm penetration making both incapable of penetrating MBT side armor. Meanwhile BMP-2M still able to pen after nerf making it way less significant than the other two. Nerfing M735 round from bullshit source which they admitted was wrong and would fix it soon(TM) Nerfing HESH based of a website as source which was created 2 days prior to citied "bug" report which was doctored off from documents, They won't hesitate to nerf any non-russian shit in the blink of an eye BMP chassis took longer preparation to be amphibious but in game it can just plop in water. Russian fuel tanks from lower rank to higher rank just being spall absorbers and rarely exploding, Su-25K and Ka-50 bs damage models, im not motioning Ka-50 ability to fly without a tail, it's how the whole airframe can take multiple missiles and still be optimally operable with a pilot made of steel, Su-25 having many times the survivability of the A-10 who has 3 individual control system each as a backup in case one fails, 2x hydraulic systems and 1x wired control but the weakest part of A-10 in game is its control surfaces because one hit and you're stiffer that shit. You don't say all of those shit align well with russia huh
@@givividivinci5652the BMPs need no preparation to go into water except being well maintained. And the ability to fly without a tail is granted by the fact they have counter rotating twin rotors you smoothbrain. Thats the whole point. Cant you see it doesnt have the vert stabilizer prop. And fuel tanks explode all the fucking time which they absolutely shouldnt cause diesel doesnt explode like ever. All im seeing here is a garbage player that doesnt want to accept he is garbage, blaming russian bias instead of his garbage gameplay and shitty knowledge. Get good noob. Also the Frogfoot eats missiles for breakfast in real life. So many cases of that happening.
For those wondering, it COULD float with an external kit, which is present on all m113 variants In game, but it’s missing over half the crucial components it needs to actually float, so instead of the frontal armor we get a gate that doesn’t work
It is! However, the designers knew and compensated for this. That is what the boxes on the side of the tank are for. They are just tank floaties to compensate for the added weight.
@@OP4455OP The ones with the trim vane almost certainly can, if not out of the gate then with a bit of prep. The CM25 seems to even include the side floats and larger foam filled trim vane (the sides are also filled with foam). The CM25 floats are not the same modification as the M163 so it might be a native Taiwanese mod. The M113A1 tow just has a trim vane, so it can likely float, might need prep first, but wont be as stable (irl) as the m113s with the side floats. The TOW weapon system with extra ammo probably isnt much heavier, if heavier at all, than an m113 with fully loaded dismounts when you think about it.
Funny enough, the M2 Bradley’s also got a trim vane for the exact purpose. Though very dangerous, turning an IFV into a boat literally could be a thing, it just takes a very skilled crew.
It use to, but Gaijin removed stating "It would take too long for the crew to deploy" yet fail to update the in-game models removing the vanes. All M113 Hulls were amphibious by nature, no floaties needed.
@@LynxErgo yeah, I tryed that one too, each time I see something that can float I try It. And It usually ends being a submarine that never returns to the surface.
Gajin is just good at throwing every feature and ability in the trash except the USSR tech tree, and the most recent example is Spall liner on T90M, Present since 1960 on Western tanks but only the T90M has it🤡🤡🤡
@@ShinyRIS the game as of right now is a random mess with that damage system anyways, putting that BS will make it even more obnoxious. So yea thanks, blacking ammo racks are just enough for me as is
Idk why they did this, because they even had the pontoons on the side that GRANTED it to float. If they took away that ability, they should at least make it a bit lighter.
I mean, you have a giant freedom dispenser strapped on top with a liberation radar. Not to mention that it pretty much is a laserbeam and will delete paper. pretty fair trade for the capability of floating.
hi, yes, the m163 can float as you can tell, it has the boxes on the side to help aid in floating.....also the m901 can float too but its told not too as well, its top heavy AF but WT decided to say no and went, thats mine now so you cant have fun anymore
Saying a modern APC built to swim; having swim accessories, cant swim across a body of water, is on par with saying a WW2 tank can stop a modern depleted uranium shell from penetrating the hull... Oh wait... Gaijin already does that
Yeah the gun is really heavy along with all the extra ammo it carries for it even worse in the m901 case. Due to all the extra weight it can no longer float.
Gaijin sad that in real life m163 cant float because it needed special preparation but soviet bmp3 also need a special preparation and in war thunder it can swim🫤🙁
Gaijin's excuse is that the m113 needs preparations before crossing water, but i find that a terrible excuse, all amphibious vehicles do, and even if you say the m113 takes longer to do we can already replace an entire drive system during a battle in less than a minute, so realistic work hours aren't a concern.
M113s floating on water in real life: czcams.com/video/ULKPBbg6emo/video.htmlsi=Q41bJoC-9gOsenQe M113s sinking in War Thunder according to Gaijin: ...........
Odd that they care about “accuracy” when the bmp also realistically cant float without being prepped first yet they dont let an M113 platform float in a state that should allow it to float
The reason for this is that the m113 had this capability, but the 163 is too heavy and the army didn't see any point in just taking it off (if im right)
I mean isn't that just so the driver doesn't get splashed? So it could be used in cases where the river is shallow enough to cross and you don't necessarily have to float.
So something I have noticed. Gaijin has been removing amphibious capabilities from most vehicles, exept from Russian vehicles. You can go look at old videos of the ikv or the M163 and they were able to go across water, now they can’t. First time Russian bias takes stuff away from other vehicles.
![Low quality memes i stole from discord but the memes get progressively better [V5]](/img/n.gif)
*This is sad but accurate, gaijin said.
If it won't float, why did they animate it?
@@ghostwinter3351for fun😂
@@ghostwinter3351 in WT, it float"ed"
@@ghostwinter3351it uses too
@@ghostwinter3351It should float in game, the m113 was amphibious
they could fix this by removing the trim vane and replacing it with add-on armor that the M113A3 had instead
@@nicholasarmock3180Dew it!
@@nicholasarmock3180its a m113 I doubt anything about it is classified
wow, instead of having 13mm of armor, you get 15mm of armor....
Is there any point at that teir be real
@maestro951 it could stop a 50kg bomb from killing you if you're far enough and facing front.
Now go find the guy under the woter
Why did I read it in a Bri’ish accent😂
@@BerlinExpress Do not pull out the big besh bonk
hello pleas help i am onder da wotar
@@BerlinExpressholy sh yes
Life could be a dream, life could be a dream~~
I remember it used to float though i played it with friends in custom game berlin
it 'used' to.
@@Zenturion7 sad🥺
Yeah it did intill LAV-AD was added
Yeah I remembered the same thing then like 3 months ago I tried it on the port novo map and it sunk immediately
@@Stardust_the_F-104Cyou remember when the LAV-AD had tracers?
0 days of gaijin not shitting on American tech tree again
US ground was dominating every BR but top tier for close to a year
even now it's still the highest winrate tree up to about 8.0
Bro it's right about on par with the Soviets on ridiculousness and bias
Idk if they changed the Brs again for us tanks, but from 3.0 to 4.0 with all the Sherman’s (the non 76 mm), I just had a terrible time. It was supper painful to play as those early Sherman’s. But idk about now. Lol.
@@GewelReal did you really check the stat or you’re just rumbling miss info to validate not balancing the game?
@@DanY-mj4gl I’m sorry demtri but you’re coping
Gaijin buffing Russian vehicles: no documents needed
Gaijin buffing anything else: yeah it’s either classified documents or your soul
Yes the bmp can swim in game when in reality any small wave would instantly sink it.
@@matad1917 "In reality" 😂
Have you operated a BMP? Because I did in the army, field exercise included, and no, it doesn't "sink" because of "small waves"
@@Henry_the_Eighth_ I replied, but it looks like it got deleted or something, probably because it contained a link.
I admit I don't have experience with it. It states in the manual of the vehicle that it can withstand about 0.5 a meter high waves among other things. I learned this in a video named "BMP: amphibious or a watery grave" and you can be a judge of the information it provides if you decide to watch it.
My point is, similar limitations are probably the reason a lot of vehicles in the game are not considered amphibious like the one in the video, but the bmp still is.
Half a mind? :/
@@matad1917 I mean, Soviet/Russian designed APCs are known for their water crossing capabilities, without much preparation. Most you need to do is to hold all the hatches/doors sealed, no "skirts", no airbags, just go ahead and start floating. Western designs do require preparation before going waterborne.
Same with the m901, must be for getting through shallow rivers idk
The m901 floats for me? Thats the twin tow launcher right?
@@literallyasneeze2135yeah, and this should float too since they’re both variants of the m113 which was amphibious
@@Natediggetydogyeah they both probably could float but the M901 doesn't have the amphibious package (and likely never recieved it. ATGM carriers and water don't mix well.)
The m901 never got it due to the weight constraints
@@Natediggetydogand the M163 with the ammo is too heavy to float so no.
Back then, this thing in WT used to be floating if you didn't put extended armors on.
Did op put extended armors on?
The beginning of this video reminds me of "Crusader Chan"😂
Greetings fellow BA player 🦀
hifumi daisuke
히후미씨..
Hifumi when crusader chan gets stuck in sand
Lol
Im very sure hasumi would never trust her again.
crusadie worst nightmare... even the churchills by the tea party
Gaijin when M163: Guys it takes several steps to set up 😡
Also gaijin when 2s38 and BMP’s: Nooo they need something to be unique!! 🥺
Russian bias is not real guys, that'd be ridiculous!
bmps can just drive into a river and cross it with water jets
BMP series drivers only need to close any open hatches and push a button to swim, M163 AAA setup needs its ammunition removed to swim.
These are smooth-brain comments.
@@GarioTheRockdude doesn‘t even get the point
@@dutchdragon2472are you forreal calling on Russian bias because the Soviets and Russians designed IFVs to be amphibious unlike the Americans? And the BMP is very unique with that juicy 30mm. You can all seethe and cope.
They removed the ability to float bc people were complaining abaout it killing them while in the water. So the ability was removed, but Soviet BMPs and a couple other vechicles were allowed to keep their flotation devices. So they fixed one problem by making more.
Apparently, this vehicle needs add-on equipment to float, normally. While the bmp has its amphibious features built in. So realistically, it can't swim with it out those features.
@@ii_dynasty yep, they should atleast make it a researchable modification. But of course we can’t have nice things because of the soviets
@bruhmoment3741 it's weight is also an issue. Without the setup and conditions, it can't float.
yeah, but it would be better to just leave it as a modification@@ii_dynasty
Imagine a Russian game maker removing half the shit that makes the other nations vehicles better.. i swear if i get an abrams and die to a t90 or some shit I'ma be pissed 😂 battle has shown there aint no Russian tanks capable of killing an abrams
Shame that these kinda vehicles need to be manually configured first before wading into water like floatation aids
All the vehicules need to be configurated before, that s just a lame reason of gaijin
@@auraytb3602
Soviet light vehicle design: NOOBS!
@@therebelfrogy9287a lot of soviet vehicles still need to be configured by hand, the automatic mechanisms they try and use are notoriously unreliable
@@savagewolf5918 Not the BMPs though. They're designed to be very buoyant. large surface up, small surface down, thin armour, lots of air.
@@savagewolf5918BMPs, some BTR version is designed to be used as is for crossing operations.
'Cause gaijin said that "itz realistic, because it would take half hour to prepare it to swim"
Lets see those bmps swim irl then
@@lynx-alpha2073
We did.
Some have already sank I. Ukraine, lol.
Well the orignial m113 was amphibious but later variants were too heavy to be amphibious but some elements of its amphibious capabilities remained. Im sure its still on the vehicle for fording rivers but im positive this variant lost its amphibious capabilities because of weight
Gaijin on their way to remove the floating ability from the M163 because people apparently don’t notice the massive floating block in the water
ka-mi without float pontoons: n00b
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BA summer ost very fitting to any tank video at beach
Dang it! As a old BA player, I don't even realize this BGM is from BA until I Shazam this🥲
uwogggg
What this ost number? I forget it
Same goes for the IKV 91 in the swedish tech tree, it won’t float even though it does irl.
Just an example of a change that made no sense and probably wasn’t realistic and was completely unneeded.
They removed the swim function because too many people were setting up their m163s like duck blinds and just floating out to the middle of the ocean
Same woth the ikv 91, it should float, and it has been able to swim before, not anymore. Plese cover that.
M163 used to float. It was so inconsequential but gaijin hates seeing it's players having fun..
The first song is from Blue Archive. Such a nice game with good songs
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Well the ikv-91 and ikv-91 105 could float but they removed it for some dam reason :(
It's not Russian that's why
Blue archive music. Based
Even after nine years it still hits so hard the nostalgia is just I miss this era you know I wish I could turn back time
It used to be able I guess they removed sometime ago. Then again haven't played the M163 for a long time.
Fun fact, R3 wasn’t designed to float but it float in WT
Was on 8,7 br the other day in the map where in the middle there's a river, then i was pushing until i see a friendly T-55 trying to shoot at the water and constantly using the MG until i peek from the other side seing that thing floating hidding from the T-55 it was so...unreal.
Since that i knew those things can float. LMAO
The parasite has evolved
why wasn't it designed to float? It should have the same wheel design as the fiat to allow for movement in water
What are you talking about? Yes it was! There are sources about OTO Melara's R3 Capraia program that explicitly state it had amphibious capabilities.
It’s crazy because the M163 used to be able to float, like it was fully capable of floating. But after one of the updates, it doesn’t work… I would sometimes sit in water on certain maps as some planes don’t expect AA fire from water in a ground match
id guess its a splash guard so water wont get onto driver view ports while crossing thin water
"M163 is drown"
"No"
classic gaijin, just shitting on american vehicles
Actually, this is realistic. The M117 chassis was never able to float. It could however cross swamps and rivers that weren't too deep and that flap that extends forwards was to stop water from blocking the driver's view port.
@@Anonymous-hv9yw
Right nerfing LAVAD gun from 91 to 63mm penetration, nerfing A-10 gun from 91mm to 79mm penetration making both incapable of penetrating MBT side armor.
Meanwhile BMP-2M still able to pen after nerf making it way less significant than the other two.
Nerfing M735 round from bullshit source which they admitted was wrong and would fix it soon(TM)
Nerfing HESH based of a website as source which was created 2 days prior to citied "bug" report which was doctored off from documents,
They won't hesitate to nerf any non-russian shit in the blink of an eye
BMP chassis took longer preparation to be amphibious but in game it can just plop in water.
Russian fuel tanks from lower rank to higher rank just being spall absorbers and rarely exploding,
Su-25K and Ka-50 bs damage models, im not motioning Ka-50 ability to fly without a tail, it's how the whole airframe can take multiple missiles and still be optimally operable with a pilot made of steel,
Su-25 having many times the survivability of the A-10 who has 3 individual control system each as a backup in case one fails, 2x hydraulic systems and 1x wired control but the weakest part of A-10 in game is its control surfaces because one hit and you're stiffer that shit.
You don't say all of those shit align well with russia huh
@@givividivinci5652the BMPs need no preparation to go into water except being well maintained. And the ability to fly without a tail is granted by the fact they have counter rotating twin rotors you smoothbrain. Thats the whole point. Cant you see it doesnt have the vert stabilizer prop. And fuel tanks explode all the fucking time which they absolutely shouldnt cause diesel doesnt explode like ever.
All im seeing here is a garbage player that doesnt want to accept he is garbage, blaming russian bias instead of his garbage gameplay and shitty knowledge. Get good noob.
Also the Frogfoot eats missiles for breakfast in real life. So many cases of that happening.
@@givividivinci5652 ok 😅 no need for an essay, just saying that this is the truth
@@Anonymous-hv9ywm163 should still have APDS
For those wondering, it COULD float with an external kit, which is present on all m113 variants In game, but it’s missing over half the crucial components it needs to actually float, so instead of the frontal armor we get a gate that doesn’t work
man, those thing used to float back in the day
Probably the weapons system weighs too much :/ I wonder if some of the other M113s float
It is! However, the designers knew and compensated for this. That is what the boxes on the side of the tank are for. They are just tank floaties to compensate for the added weight.
Can M113A1(TOW) and CM25 float IRL?
@@OP4455OP The ones with the trim vane almost certainly can, if not out of the gate then with a bit of prep. The CM25 seems to even include the side floats and larger foam filled trim vane (the sides are also filled with foam). The CM25 floats are not the same modification as the M163 so it might be a native Taiwanese mod.
The M113A1 tow just has a trim vane, so it can likely float, might need prep first, but wont be as stable (irl) as the m113s with the side floats.
The TOW weapon system with extra ammo probably isnt much heavier, if heavier at all, than an m113 with fully loaded dismounts when you think about it.
Funny enough, the M2 Bradley’s also got a trim vane for the exact purpose.
Though very dangerous, turning an IFV into a boat literally could be a thing, it just takes a very skilled crew.
It use to, but Gaijin removed stating "It would take too long for the crew to deploy" yet fail to update the in-game models removing the vanes. All M113 Hulls were amphibious by nature, no floaties needed.
Lol what's funny is that it couldn't float IRL. Gaijin nailed that perfectly
Aight time to post super duper secret military documents to convince them
It's for fording rivers not crossing the Delaware
Damn, there goes my Christmas Eve plans.
The Delaware. The Delaware River.
@@malachishock9343 exposed me as a non-American 🤣 I thought it was a lake
Might as well cross the Mississippi
@to_tire Might want to double check before posting things if you aren’t 100% sure
They have also modeled it with the additional flotation pods on either side.
Someone finna leak another classified government file for gaijin to fix this issue 💀💀
The first days in War Thunder of Object 685 be like
Can't swim anymore? Used to do, man this game is going down by every update...
How dare they make the game more realistic!
@@nonameninja_ about that M163 thing particullary, It is based on M113 and it is an amphibious vehicle.
@@igork969120 mm Vulcan and it’s ammo weigh too much. Same goes for ATGM of M901.
The game is going down because one vehicle can't not swim? If swimming is useful in WT?
@@igork9691Gaijin should add the M113 APC, you can't do anything in battle but you can swim, that's the important thing.
Unluckily I discover that the hard way before watching this video...
Same but with m901
@@LynxErgo yeah, I tryed that one too, each time I see something that can float I try It. And It usually ends being a submarine that never returns to the surface.
They took away its amphibious ability about a year ago because it needs “prep” first. So don’t all the BMPs but that doesn’t matter
The 2sm also can't but can irl
It's the addon armorcompared to the other 113s and the ammo and gun and turret, tho I do remember floating in the machbet the other day
Gajin is just good at throwing every feature and ability in the trash except the USSR tech tree, and the most recent example is Spall liner on T90M, Present since 1960 on Western tanks but only the T90M has it🤡🤡🤡
Making a Nato humo when it doesn't even exists
Unpopular take: spall liner should not be added in game at all, at any capacity
@@LynxErgoboo hoo it’s not 1 tap city anymore, You will need to put more importance on shooting out the barrel/breach and lining up better shots
@@ShinyRIS the game as of right now is a random mess with that damage system anyways, putting that BS will make it even more obnoxious. So yea thanks, blacking ammo racks are just enough for me as is
@@ShinyRISwould be perfectly fine if it needed to do the same thing to you, but most NATO tanks can be easily penned and one shot frontally
Idk why they did this, because they even had the pontoons on the side that GRANTED it to float. If they took away that ability, they should at least make it a bit lighter.
I mean, you have a giant freedom dispenser strapped on top with a liberation radar. Not to mention that it pretty much is a laserbeam and will delete paper. pretty fair trade for the capability of floating.
I remember it being able to swim, but it was years ago, like 2019-2020
I have the same issues with the F-4U
It’s deemed the whistling death but it doesn’t whistle in game
The M163 used to float. It did, but gaijin took ot away
hi, yes, the m163 can float as you can tell, it has the boxes on the side to help aid in floating.....also the m901 can float too but its told not too as well, its top heavy AF
but WT decided to say no and went, thats mine now so you cant have fun anymore
Saying a modern APC built to swim; having swim accessories, cant swim across a body of water, is on par with saying a WW2 tank can stop a modern depleted uranium shell from penetrating the hull... Oh wait... Gaijin already does that
It's correct and depends in the installed Equipment or Weapons. Gearbox to heavy for the renewed German variants
Yeah the gun is really heavy along with all the extra ammo it carries for it even worse in the m901 case. Due to all the extra weight it can no longer float.
Meanwhile game version of the BMP1 can sail the Drake Passage despite the real one getting swamped by a 1mm wave.
The car explodes from the water, IRONIC😂
Gaijin sad that in real life m163 cant float because it needed special preparation but soviet bmp3 also need a special preparation and in war thunder it can swim🫤🙁
It used to be able to swim, sad it cant anymore
What? This can't float now? I remember this thing being able to float when it was added. They never added the animations for the front at the time
Gaijin's excuse is that the m113 needs preparations before crossing water, but i find that a terrible excuse, all amphibious vehicles do, and even if you say the m113 takes longer to do we can already replace an entire drive system during a battle in less than a minute, so realistic work hours aren't a concern.
It used to be able to float and it was fun to use... but apparently realism beats fun, so i guess gajijn will keep the pain to make it extra realistic
The M163 used to float like it should have.... and then they did this like huh?
I swear I’ve floated with it before, and then I don’t remember exactly which update it just didn’t work anymore
I think it makes sense bc there's several thousand pounds of ammo in the back
I think it’s more for pushing the water away to cross rivers more easily
blue archive ost
This is to cross rivers that arent deeper than the m113 is tall..
M113s floating on water in real life:
czcams.com/video/ULKPBbg6emo/video.htmlsi=Q41bJoC-9gOsenQe
M113s sinking in War Thunder according to Gaijin: ...........
Our new and improved panzer of the lake !!!!
I mean same with the Sheridan but no Gaijin said that’s not fair. For some reason
It used to, but Gaijin changed it because it "needs prep time to float"
Some have it for shallow fast crossing to prevent splash in faces
M113 requires special equipment and set up time to be amphibious
Odd that they care about “accuracy” when the bmp also realistically cant float without being prepped first yet they dont let an M113 platform float in a state that should allow it to float
Same for most military tanks except the ones that can float
:/
Time to leak more documents as until we get our floaty boi
The reason for this is that the m113 had this capability, but the 163 is too heavy and the army didn't see any point in just taking it off (if im right)
I mean isn't that just so the driver doesn't get splashed? So it could be used in cases where the river is shallow enough to cross and you don't necessarily have to float.
It just looks cool, would be nice if it had some armor value aswell.
So something I have noticed. Gaijin has been removing amphibious capabilities from most vehicles, exept from Russian vehicles. You can go look at old videos of the ikv or the M163 and they were able to go across water, now they can’t. First time Russian bias takes stuff away from other vehicles.
Thw one squadron m113 for the US tech tree has this same issue
Remember, 2S38 can float. Also in the same BR as M3A3 and Puma for some reason.
I believe it needed preparation before entering the water
As someone whos driven the 113 Variant. No, they never were able to float
Best part is when they added the trim they removed its ability to float….
it was supposed to float a while ago, but gaijin said: "fk u" *take ur amphibious capability away*
jokes aside, i forgor which update, in one of the changelog they said they remove the amphibious capability ftom m163
Used to. . . Bmp no float when, 😂
same with the M901 :(
Same with the M551
Well, time to post some classified military documents
Blue archive ost
Based
There are versions of m113 heir to the Bradley that do float.
The M113 chassis only amphibious with flotation and engine modifications. You couldn't just drive one into the water.
They had to rig the vehicles for that.. thats like taking the dd sherman tank wothout the rigging to float and complain ir didnt float
IT HAS THE FLOATING PONTOONS ALREADY ON IT GAIJIN