Making another pickproof lock (but better)
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Building a custom lock mechanism to stop lock pickers, for real this time. Engineering this pick-proof lock was a challenging process, with CAD work, prototyping, and a unique sheet metal design one year in the making. Hopefully it works this time.
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Cool Lock!
I really want to make this, and put it on my front door... It would be an honor to display your name on my door with this feat of engineering!
Can't wait to see LockPickingLawyer doing a video about it! I doubt he will be able to pick it, but still want to see it :P
If you want to build a better lock you have to build a better key.....
I wanna buy one of those please make them in production
Does this mean we get a 10 minute Lockpicking Lawyer video?
"to be continued"
The first 9 minute will be he talking about the youtuber and the lock, the last minute will be he demontrastes opening the lock 2 times so that we cant miss it
To make sure it was not a fluke
he don't make videos about a lot of locks he wasn't able to pick to make it looks like he can pick almost anything.
Nah, I want to see a 2hr long LPL video where he attempts a teardown and rebuild as well as the original pick 🤣
holy shit those animations are *slick*
the animations earned my sub.
Reminds of Animagraffs.
Thank you very much!
What is the software used for that?
Yeah, i am knterested in this as well, i accidentally stumbled upon and subscribed the moment i saw the animations, the topic is awesome, your narrative, editing, but animations, god damn.
@@janhartmann7275 @HGKaya @sanches2 none of you watched the whole video, huh?
You know what I loved the most? The locksmith obviously enjoys what he does at the atomic level - they were just as excited that they couldn't figure out the lock in time as we were.
Thanks man! I appreciate you. It was a lot of fun both understanding his engineering expertise and having the opportunity to be the first to work on the next age of locks.
@@kendricoldenberg7920you are a very skilled man. Respect, was fun to watch you in the videos!
I love how LPL has become the de facto test for any lock being too hard to pick. Also, the single chamber that makes raising pins push the other pins down is pretty smart.
I would include Deviant Ollam as well.
McNally is getting up there
Lpl is far from the best in the lockpicking community, but he's definitely the most famous! Hard locks is not what he picks, he picks mostly easy ones that seem hard for the normal people, but most high level pickers pick locks far harder than LpL has on his channel
If you're curious take a look at my page 😉
I'm certain that the lockpicking community mentioned in the video has far better picking ability.
No single person, no matter how charismatic or experienced, is as powerful as a community working together. That's why the best of the best aren't just relying on their own skills or experience, they draw from communities as well.
I wonder how much money LPL has been offered to deliberately fail picking a commercial lock.
As LPL has said in the past, "There are no locks I can't pick. Just locks I haven't picked yet". This should be a fun one for him.
I don’t recall him ever saying that and he has failed to pick the Bowley lock. It’s since been picked via specialized tools by other pickers though.
I’d love to see him try the Forever lock. Afaik it’s actually unpickable since the key way is effectively impossible to access
He has a whole box of shame locks, the fuck you mean
LPL admited defeat on the Bowley lock. So these exist.
@@TlD-dg6ug Those shame locks are just locks LPL hasnt picked yet.
Improvement suggestion: Varied pin/plate thickness. Since they're essentially a stack, the size and number of pins isn't inherently fixed. In addition to making picking a bit more difficult, it could potentially thwart some impressioning attacks.
Really great idea, could even be implemented without any changes to the rest of the lock!
@@worksbydesign any key that have perfect volume and fits will work
@@Shubh-1no they don't pressure is distributie evenly and the lengts of the pinns are different so only works with the key
@@worksbydesign you could also make them slightly rough between the faces so that way if they apply tension, it makes it harder to move the pins, but when there is no tension, they still move easily.
If going that route another thought that comes to my mind is coupling two untouching pins with a connecting bar between them and a groove/cut in the other pins to allow the connecting pin to pass through them
DUDE! So wholesome of you to gift one of the locks to the locksmith from the video! Amazing work!!!
Also gives him much more time with the lock and might eventually figure it out.
If I were that locksmith, and he gave me one, I'd have no life until I figured it out. I would be spending all of my free time obsessively trying get it open
I love how there'S now a genre of youtube videos thats all about making toys for LPL
It’s whole ecosystem lol
seems like replacing the springs with a tiny pressurized ball-pit added randomness to the feedback of binding pins, thats pretty neat
edit: ballpit lock also sounds like a cool name for this style of lock.
the locksmith certainly thought so!
Yeah raking/bumping seems like the more reliable way to "pick" it since single pin picking would give strange feedback that would be very inconsistent.
Although with enough practice I'm sure there would be people who would grow adept at the feel. The only way to really help this lock would be to vary the pin/plate thickness and add false set drop ins such that a failed attempt or bumping would result in a bound lock.
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@@FR099Y That's a good point, the design is close to standard enough that the usual anti-bump/raking methods should still work to stop those attacks.
@@FR099Y Thats what I was thinking. But rather than the sharp bumps by hammering, use an electric toothbrush + bump key
I love the attitude of "This project is meant to see what's possible, not what's profitable". It reminds me those stories you hear from decades or centuries ago about scientists, engineers, mathematicians, and more just one upping each other in something that holds very little value aside from curiosity and fun. I know that still happens to today (This video is an example of it), but it's nice to see
It's why the classic approach of patrons for art and science were huge for progress, though it meant limited availability of the opportunity for a lot of potentially amazing contributors. Today, we have that here and there in academia, but anything not clearly backed by a profit opportunity is heavily affected by whims and public image at the institution level. Rocking the boat gets harder to do with that.
Progress is not made by making things practical. If people said researching anti-matter was impractical and useless, we would not have PET machines detecting cancer clumps of less than a hundred cells. We have to spend millions in research and then engineers work to bring everything from the edge to day to day stuff. That is what a science based society is supposed to look like. I feel nowadays everyone is interested in just doing the obvious, easily profitable thing and that is why we haven't made significant theoretical progress in Physics in decades.
@@vidal9747 Another part of the seeming slowdown is that each step requires new tools. In past eras, a relatively small team with a relatively small space with some custom glass or metal work could discover fundamental things in the course of a year or so. Now it takes 10 years and nearly $5B to make the next tool.
I was going to comment this very thought but you got to it first!
@@xxpoisonblxx Large Hadron Colliders don't pay for themselves, sadly.
Fluid bearings were an absolute genius move. Everything else is just icing on the cake. Even if someone figures this out, what youve done is nothing short of incredible
Happy to have offered a tiny bit of help on this one, in the form of some footage! Great project and great job!!!
For what it's worth, while it'll never find commercial success in home locks for doors, vault lock mechanisms and the like have no upper limit for complexity or cost. Take a look at Fichet Bauche safe locks. They're essentially safe locks designed by someone who must have had a crossover passion with watch making or something else. Incredibly expensive and complex (but also beautiful). Great job!
I'm just grateful someone is inventing new locks. For 50 years, pretty much we have not seen much in the way of advances. Stuff like Medeco CLIQ and electro-mechanical cylinders may be around, but a lot have fallen prey to clever arrangements of magnets. Even though this design is something that might be tough to mass-produce, it is something that is greatly appreciated. I'd rather see businesses and people make stuff like this than another subscription based web service.
Some safes actually contain mechanical timers - they are just actually decent quality mechanical watches
The thing to keep in mind is that he only made this lock to be pick resistant. There are several other destructive means of bypassing the lock that wasn't addressed in this design.
@@melody3741 Modern bank safes/vaults with time locks (or time delay locks) would be exactly that I suspect.
@@OmegaZyion Well yeah, but for that you need to design a door and not a lock.
Honestly giving the third lock away as a challange lock is probably the coolest idea for a project idea like this.
100%. It was all everyone on LPU Discord was talking about last night, and the guy that's getting it first is formidable. Everyone just knows Lockpicking Lawyer because of CZcams, but these guys are the real deal. I don't imagine it lasts long, and that's not because it's not a good design, but simply because Works By Design isn't a Lockpicker first, designer second.
But there should be a 4th lock on his front door proofing that it is usable and durable.
@@tinu5779 lol true
@@tinu5779 Why? It's just supposed to be "unpickable". Not the perfect door lock.
Unlockable locks like this are not for day to day use but rather high security places like banks or government/military buildings @@tinu5779
The *incredible* production value of this video, and the fact that it's available for free makes my brain lock up.
The animations alone in this video are deserving of a sub, let alone the absolutely crazy engineering that went into this lock. I can't wait to see LPL struggle with it and perhaps finally be defeated.
When the lockpicking lawyer fails to pick it, I expect a launch date soon.
Not really because servicability is virtually nil if anything went wrong or the key needed to be changed.
And in what door will you put it?
I do not say it is impossible, but locks are weakest, and to be honest- obsolete almost, link in security.
If he can’t then send it to youtube.com/@mcnallyofficial?si=W8y7ZfDHWMROnTZG
@@chrisloveall2821there are definitely things you could do to make this type of lock more serviceable. I don’t totally understand how it works but the design seemed simple enough that taking out the main through pins might allow one to take it apart. Idk I didn’t make it and don’t have the strongest understanding of what makes something easily serviceable.
@@chrisloveall2821 at that point you can just use thermite or punch it out.
I clicked thinking it was Stuff Made Here and was immediately disappointed... For about a minute or two until I realized how good this video was gonna be. Great job
same here, it's a great video from every perspective i can think of
20+ years lockpicker here, very clever design 👍
Suddenly, out of nowhere, this brilliant and amazing channel throws down an unpickable lock in front of LPL. And, true to form, LPL feels the disturbance and has risen to no doubt study this video, his opponent, for worthiness. BosnianBill remains on call, ready to make the custom tooling and Mcnally is pacing like a caged animal, sharpened carpentry square in one hand and a tube of personal lubricant in the other. We are watching hisyory being made, folks!
Hopefully he doesn't study the video. Honestly the only fair way to attempt to pick this lock would be to go in blind with no knowledge of the internals of the lock.
@PlaySA Security by obscurity is not a desirable design principle.
Obscurity doesn’t allow the principals and design choices implemented in the lock to be adequately challenged.
@@PlaySA In the video, the locksmith also saw how the lock worked, and still couldn't get through. But then again, maybe 35min wasn't long enough to study and make attempts at the lock.
Everyone is certain lpl will walk right over this but I want to see mcnally, if he can do it at all, do it so fast it's indistinguishable from magic
@@PlaySA red one hundred emoji
PCBway get this man a cnc machining sponsorship
Or could save time and get a lock from Bowley
Abloy protec and a loaded 9mm is the most unlockable lock 😂 @@Supremax67
@@Supremax67but bowley is pickable
@@techheck3358 -- I prefer the ones that uses specifically placed magnets and if you put magnets at the wrong place, the lock becomes permanent until demagnetized.
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Unpickable or not, this is true and inspirational engineering; challenging yourself by striving for what others consider impossible. Thanks for sharing this with us.
You get my vote for the best new engineering Channel on CZcams! It all works so good! The story, animations, explanations, video coverage. Well done once again!
This is astonishing and it warms my heart!
There are no unpickable locks. There are just locks that are impractical to pick because the destructive method is so much simpler and faster. And this lock might slip into that category.
tho what he could also do to make it more resitant to destruction is make it out of AR500
@@nuclearboom2467you can even use a composite material called “Proteus” to basically be impossible to cut via ankle grinders
@@nuclearboom2467 Use 2 sheets of 1'' AR500, with a 1/2" layer of carbide in between for the front plate. And creamic inserts to stop angle grinders etc.
Just replace short strike plate screws with longer ones and door kickers will feel it.
@@tylersmith1468 You can always go for a shaped charge xD. There are few things that can withstand that.
Great video! The animations are amazing and the engineering of the lock is amazing.
I think of locks like an "asymetrical warfare" tool against burglars: cheap yet very effective, but can be bypassed given enough ressources.
I am so grateful my locks aren't picking-proof, otherwise I would have slept outside more than once.
That's an odd reason to actually oppose pick-proof locks
Me too, but sometimes I get asked questions like "Who are you? How did you get in? Why are you sleeping on my sofa??"
@@BarbasTheDog I know right? I would be so much better if locks were unpickable. Then they'd say "He broke through the window!" STATEMENTS rather than questions. Big improvement
So you are grateful that your locks are easy to pick?
I love the animations you put in this. It really helps convey what your lock actually does.
I love how LPL has just become the de-facto final boss for every bit of lock related content
With Bosnian Bill's retirement, who else is there? We going to send it to McNally to slap and speed square it?
Aight 1:45 is the coolest assembly animation I have ever seen... Just wow.
They are just fyling in from the side how many assembly animations have you seen in your life 🤣🤣
Me constructing any contraption in a LEGO game:
Lock Picking Lawyer called.
We (I mean humanity) simply don't have the technology yet, to challenge LPL's ability.
What about a standalone electronic lock with a 25 year builtin battery(there is a certain chemistry🤔), using ultra low power(100nA standby) electronics, operated by a bidirectional optical key with builtin power(a button cell), employing 1024 bit AES encryption!🤔
There are already cheap few dollars worth security processors(MicroChip)available today, that can do this without lifting a thumb!. It is just a matter of putting this together with other ultra low power electronic components(TI) with some creativity. In the end, it is limited by its tungsten body and the physical strength of the mechanical lock mechanism. You can always blow torch it to make it unopenable! forever🙄, but opening it intact without the key🤞.Goodluck LPL!🤯🤣❤️👍
@@aware2action Opens it with a twig, with two leafs on it. Under 3 minutes. Two times, just to show us, that the first attempt was not a fluke. XD
Thats the point.
@@Foga001he was beat by stuffmadehere before. He had to cheat to "pick" it.
Rarely does the YT algorithm serve something watchable, but this time they've played a blinder - this is awesome!
Ballpit seems so exactly the right solution that before this video, I had no idea how to solve it, and after, it is obvious. That’s great thinking.
dont forget mechanical designs like this are and always will be a form of art
what i like most is that it seemingly adds RNG to the picking experience without using electronics, overly complex mechanisms, or radically different key design.
This design definitely belongs in a museum
EVERYONE WAKE UP IT’S THAT TIME AGAIN
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Oh, I had an idea! Have an indirect form of access to the pins! Have a set of 2 keys (which would make it more difficult anyway). The real idea is that one key is slotted in a specific slot, then when you use the other key in a different slot, it pulls the special key inside a recess where the pins are isolated and the external channel is cut off.
Dang that'll be really really over engineered but will probably make it more difficult to pick
@@juandagrande4019 tbh, I don't think it'd be that hard to make. Just not an easy or nice looking install unless you make a whole door around it.
Check out the Bowley lock. Someone tried the concept already (though with only one key). It took a long time before somebody picked it open, and they did so with a pick gun with a custom made tool.
@@KatieTheDev just watched a video on that, it was also a clever idea. What I mean though is that the special key will be pulled into the keyhole then the blocked off, like an atm sucking in your debit card then blocking the slot. Turning the other key starts that process.
Seriously, I have never sat through and watched a lock making / picking video all the way to the end. New follower here !!! Thanks for putting out great content!!!!
5:30 I would unironically buy this “set” !
(As a way to support you too, not from some third party ripping off your hard work with no added innovation!)
(Edit: Added clarification because we don’t take to kindly to money grabbing clones in these parts 🤠)
If you'd like, the CAD files and drawings are available on my patreon now!
You're back! Cant wait to see this picked.
A real gem of a lock, so much ingenuity, this is how new stuff happens, it can be refined and put out as a high end lock / status lock. The LPL vid is a must watch!! Can’t wait for that one.🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I love the amount of effort that went into this, as well as the incredible video explaining the design, inner workings and reasoning behind the design elements. Truly amazing, if it gets picked some day or not.
lol the locksmith has a Covert Instruments lockpick set.
That locksmith is a cultured one indeed!
Yeah another video! Don't worry about the quantity since you rock in quality 🎉
Thank you! Really appreciate that
Thank you so much for sharing tour design process and ideas with us. Lots of really interesting ideas in your lock. It looks like it has a very tactile feel to its operation as well, probably surprisingly pleasant to use. Looking forward to seeing the next design iteration!
Some great animations/illustrations here that really help make the mechanics easy to understand.
One major flaw I see with this lock.
Destroy everything around the lock to gain access.
Great video! Glad to see another video of yours!
yah but destructive attacks are a diffrent thing altogether
And I don't see that as a flaw for this lock. As it has a placement design that works just fine in tight confines, thus being able to be placed within objects that defeat many versions of destructive attacks, like simply using incredibly durable materials. The point of destroying things around the lock is focused on that around the lock, and this lock is simply designed within regular confines, adding a 'housing' would unnecessarily add to the complexity of design.
Pretty much any lock can be drilled. That's not a fault of the lock.
That is true with any locks. Here in Finland burglars do not bother picking even the Abloy Classic: takes too much time and requires some special tools. Much more effective is to take a hydraulic jack, some two-by-fours and jack the doorframe apart, along with some persuasion with a crowbar. No expertise required when you use brute force.
uhm, he made a joke.
great animations, great tempo, great info-density, great exaplanations, interesting construction, great video!
1:49 was really satisfying
Amazed by how a design like this can still be that relatively smooth. Incredibly well done!!
I have never been interested in locks, but this definitively caught my eye, incredible out of the box way of thinking, awesome!
Dude I cannot wait for LPL to look at this
Never thought i would watch a video about lock picking all the way through
A locksmith saying "i cant feel a damn thing" is honestly a valid test for your lock. The inability for you to feel anything when testing a lock is impressive in and of itself
I love mechanical engineering! The whole pressure against the pins concept is essentially a mechanical and switch
This also needs to go to McNally, his video would be hilarious
"You have a WBD mark 2, it can be opened with a WBD mark 2." *slams locks together, shatters universe*
make sure to send two so he can give it the Master lock treatment 😁
You are using the [INSERT LOCK NAME HERE], it can be opened by using the [THE SAME LOCK NAME]
I was just as impressed by the fold out tab key idea!
Good work.
Nice explaination.
Extra THX for doing not only one, but instead share your physical work.
This whole video is seriously a masterpiece, animations and sound effects off the charts, awesome
Those animations blow my mind every time
It's so nice to see somebody, anybody, working against security by obscurity. Great work!!
This is incredible work, very entertaining, a lot of serious mechanical thought went into it, very good!
Man, this is truly amazing. He not only made a new possible brilliant anti pick lock, he gave us the possibility of a 10min LPL video l future video. Im excited!
I'm so glad you approached this design with more research (and humility) than your last. It's pretty clear that you've learned immensely, and have only gotten better for it. Looking forward to the new design from the community's input. All in good time, of course
I absolutely love this entirely good-natured game of cat and mouse. lmao Seriously, this is amazing.
I think you have put more time and thought into the design of this than the collective energy of everyone in Masterlock combined
I'm so proud of you, this is exciting and fun! I hope it is picked one day (not _too_ soon) and the adventure begins again
That's so nice. You gave the locksmith a gift. ❤
I am so lucky that I found your channel. Before long, everyone will. It's so fun to see such smart people in action. All of your videos are fun. They make you think. They are very impressive. I cannot wait to see what you come up with in the future!
I love this series and your videos in general. Thanks for sharing fun, interesting, and engaging content.
animation + sound design is a blessing
Yes, the lock is a step up in some ways from the previous, but more importantly and more subtly, this video is a step up from the previous one. You acknowledge your inspirations, your animations and script improved, you clarify the purpose of the lock (not solely what's on the tin, an attempt at an "unpickable lock," but also that we're here to have fun and not to make a marketable product, setting a better stage), super appreciate all the effort that went into this. This is the CZcams I want to see, collaborative (even if not always directly), playful, while still having room for technical. I didn't subscribe last time, but this time I 100% did and rang that bell. Thank you for caring. Keep it up!
Everything about this video is perfection.
Excellent job!
Can't wait to see the LPL's take on your beautiful lock.
very neat idea, and it is cool how you are making this a community effort!
Really cool project, I don't exactly understand how the balls work, but I think I understand the effect it gives, really smart idea to incorporate a mechanic from a vice into a lock really clever. Watched the old video too and this seems to be a slight new way to thinking how to goabout making it lockpick resistant. Amazing project!
on top of replacing the individual springs, the pressurized ball-pit adds a level of randomness to the "picking feel" because of how it makes pins interact with each other, and because of how the balls interact with the pins (every ball is essentially a false pin that could bind in a complex way with all the other ones)
I really like how you use laser-cut 2D shapes! A very dedicated person with a metal file and some other hand tools could technically make most of this as well, so it somehow feels more relatable than these $100K CNC-machine videos.
It's really refreshing seeing a CZcamsr work with more approachable manufacturing methods!
I'd like to see another video where you explain in detail what went into your design decisions (perhaps on a second channel?). Also, really cool animations! I bet that was a lot of work!
ikr, thats why i don't get why some commenters seem to think this would be impractical for a commercial lock, you can mostly cut it from plates and tiny metal balls are easy to come by
@@sperzieb00nToo complicated to be commercially viable. You just know the average user would destroy it in a week of use.
Just discovered your channel. Amazing work!! The animations, the designs, your voice, the music!!! Fantastic. 10/10.
One possible attack that I can see: If you push one of the middle pin stacks up high enough that the upper half-pin clears the tops of the surrounding pin stacks, then you can exert pressure onto a pin stack further forwards or backwards and push that top half-pin over into the bb "liquid". With the BBs now flooded into the place of the top half-pin, the shear line of that pin stack becomes irrelevant (as long as the bottom half of the pin is low enough). If you can do that for enough of the pins, you'd ideally only have to pick 1 or 2 of the front and rear most pins.
Admittedly, this would rather be classified as "undetectable internal destruction" than "picking". And with the new position of the top half-pins being uncontrollable, you might also just permanently disable the lock.
And in a production version, it could be overcome by alternately offsetting each pin stack to the left and right. If you do it by more than the "pin plate thickness" it should hold the pin in place well enough to avoid forwards and backwards movement. (It might also make the grippy through-pins shown at 4:48 MORE effective, since each one is in contact with half as many pins).
maybe we will get longer than a 2 min video from LPL outa this! that would be a nice treat!
if the video of lpl gets over 15 minutes you know its hard lock. hope🙏🙏 he calls bosnian bill to help him out
Just explaining how the lock works will take more than 2 minutes. So if we get a video it will be definitely longer than 2 min 😂
The sound effects in the openning cinematic is like asmr whaaat
When I was a bit younger before my life was set, I'd look at this and go "holy hell I want to be a mechanical engineer" - now, I can't stop thinking "man I hope my son grows up to be a mechanical engineer youtuber" 😀 subbed.
I feel like im watching true inevation the facts your working on this and so publicly making something akin to the enigma of locks while the actual lock industry does nothing is amazing cant wait to follow this and see where we end up
Bro the Editing is on point. And that lock is sick.
Epiccc!!!! I cant wait to see lpl's thoughts. Been with you since your first video, so congratulations!! 🎉🎉
truely a facinating design, and one that I have never seen before, the quality of this video was also incredible, the animations were very clear and dynamic (I love the detail of ball bearings falling out while the animation progresses). With that said. if you have not already. I would beef up the front and side walls of the lock, anything that is exposed. because no lock that I am aware of is immune to a RAMSET
Incredible idea, follow through, and production. Way to go!
That was highly entertaining!
I imagine some engineers at masterlock will be in touch with you soon. Not to license your effective design, but to beg you to not embarrass them by posting videos proving it's possible. LOL
Seems highly unlikely... LPL's videos have clearly shown that masterlock doesn't care about making secure locks
Woohoo ! It's been a while since I got such a relevant recommendation from YT.
Amazing video and such clever design. Can't wait to see LPL trying to pick it
You are a magnificent human being ! I am grateful that humans like you exist !!
Honestly, understanding the clientele of high end locks, and so long as we don't find an extreme flaw in it, I can see this selling for BIG money and not being viewed as "too over complicated for market"
You just made a lock that kills the ability to feel pins. That alone is gold. You killed recognizable feedback. Also the overall design required for the lock to be housed lends itself to being incredibly cheap to produce in manufacturing but also extremely durable. You could make this lock either extremely cheap and fast or almost invincible to physical attacks depending on the dimensions you choose. I'm also not unconvinced that a physical attack wouldn't cause the lock to fail but rather warp and bind, effectively permanently locking itself shut. And an even COOLER design factor you can play with is due to each shim having its own outer ring housing (im just gonna call that whole layer of shim and its housing the shim stack) not only can you just keep adding shim stacks to make as many layer as you need but you can *individually control the thickness of each stack* so not only can you have an unknown amount of shims but EACH one can be a different thickness which means you have NOOO idea at what depth any shim is sitting at all while the ball bearing system is killing your feedback.
Imagine a lock that not only can you not feel where exactly the sheer line is but you can't be certain how many shims there are, let alone WHERE they are, you have to tension in two directions and have zero clue on how much force is needed for either way, the outer case sleeve can be built like a damn battleship, and if you smack the face of it with a hammer you run a chance of welding all the layers and cams and roller delays together and now no one's getting in.
That's a good lock and I would LOVE to see you go all out on the next revisions as if you were actually to to market against the big wigs. I think this has serious promise and at minimum taking this design to its absolute full tilt limits I think is going to be a substantial learning point for your skills and us as a community, keep it up, I'd love to try and pick one some day!
Honestly. Hitting the subscribe button after watching just one video isn't something I do. Until today.
This exactly how security should work. You make it and ask anyone and everyone to try and break in. If they do, back to the drawing board ... rinse and repeat.
Now we wait for LPL
its pretty bad security to tell everyone precisely how its done
yup i agree
that's what RnD is Research and Development is for
@@CAMSLAYER13 that is not bad, but its the key factor to provide secure solutions. Look at computer cryptography - all properly secure things are fully disclosed.
@@CAMSLAYER13 Security by obscurity is dogshit. If your systems don't work under scrutiny they just don't work at all.
@@Prometheus19853 This depends on context. For research purposes, obscurity is unwanted, but for practical uses you do want obscurity, otherwise you're vulnerable to targeted attacks. An informed criminal is much more dangerous than a criminal going in blind.
10:40 - man what a cool situation. Lock picking pro gets a call from a youtuber - "hey I'm trying to make an unpickable lock...can you bring your mobile lock picking rig to my place tomorrow morning at 8am? I'll show you an animation of how it works and pay you for the full hour and a half". I bet that's the best day ever for that guy
Thanks for making the video, this is what the internet was meant to be, thinking and sharing.
It that time lets go love your stuff
Amazing video, this is the most engaged I've ever been watching something about locks. Honestly, you should think about selling these, I'm sure people would pay a hefty premium for a lock that's *virtually* unpickable.
Yeah. Un-pickable and unbreakable locks are not desirable. Outboard motor thieves destroy your transom in order to get the motor intact, it is much preferred that they can just destroy the lock (of course they won't bother or more truthfully cannot pick a lock) . If you loose your house key will have to enforce entry AND get a locksmith, doubling your expenditure, if the lock cannot be picked. About the only need for unpickable lock is to guard against unobtrusive and undetected entry to, say, your safe or something if you have state secrets.
@@Axel_Andersen I wasn't thinking for a house lock, but rather a safe or firebox.
I think I've just thought of a second possible attack on this lock. And this one is actually feasible and not fully destructive (just tamper-evident). The weakness is the width of the pin chamber.
You insert a pick that is shaped like a triangular flag. (Thin "flagpole" and a "flag" part that's exactly half as wide as the pin plates.) If you orient the flag part vertically up, it fits through the keyhole; and it pushes on the pins from their center. But once the flag is in that wide pin chamber, you can flip it over 90°. (If the flagpole part is thin enough.) Now you push on the pins *from off center.* That can wedge them against the sides of the housing, effectively giving you "tensioning" for that individual pin stack (or even just the bottom "half-pin"), without even turning the cylinder.
In order for that tension to make the pin stack bind at it's shear line, you are relying on any imperfection or mounting tolerances. But you can create those yourself (prior to the actual picking attempt) by gripping the cylinder in some suitable way and slamming the ball bearings against their grooves.
And due to the channels for the "binding through-pins" that you show at 4:44, the pins stacks can additionally also bind at their *bottom* edges. But those "false binds" are always at the exact same pin lift.
I've waited patiently for this moment!
The animations were really nice!
I'm a research engineer, I just came across your channel. Congratulations. Very high quality. Keep up the good work
Those animations that show how lockpicking works are amazing
This definitely feels like something that needs a custom pick to beat, but I'll see what the community has to say about that.
One immediate thought that comes to mind is that, technically, your lock is about resolving an equilibrium between two "fluids": the body of the lock, full of air, and the top of the pins, full of metal balls. It may be possible to apply enough pressure inside the lock chamber such that the surface area in the chamber is minimised, which would mean that all the pins lie flat to each other.
Of course, I have genuinely no idea how you'd do this, and it's definitely not as simple as putting some kind of balloon in the lock to form a key. But it does feel like there might be some kind of "slick" solution where bumping it in just some way makes the bearings slide into a position that's lower energy in the chamber itself. Maybe the solution is just dumping some lubricant in the lock so the bearings have less friction and you can suddenly feel the difference when picking it.
I don't think that would work, since the pins don't need to travel their full stroke to unlock, and in fact, re-lock if they go too far. The ball bearings provide the spring pressure to the pins, but each pin needs to move a specific distance and stay there in order to unlock.
@@jamesburleson1916 plus the ballpit doesn't behave like a perfect fluid; precision pin movement isn't guaranteed to immediately transfer between pins because of friction and (imperfect) sphere stacking contributing to pin action