Quad Lock Vibration Dampener - Your motorcycle is destroying your iPhone
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- čas přidán 7. 10. 2021
- This week on MCrider we look at a service bulletin released by Apple about smartphone damage that occurs from mounting a phone to the handlebars. I talk about how using my smartphone on my motorcycle destroyed the camera, and I review one solution that has worked well for me from the Quad Lock Vibration Dampener.
Here are links to the products used in this video. If you have a Quad Lock mount already you can likely add the Vibration dampener to your set up and that is all you would need.
If you are starting fresh like I was, you will need at a minimum the Case, Vibration Dampener, and the Mount. You can also add the Waterproof Charger to this setup and I think it makes it much more convenient.
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Here are the direct links to the products used in this video. If you have a Quad Lock mount already you can likely add the Vibration Dampener to your set up and that is all you would need.
If you are starting fresh like I was, you will need at a minimum the Case, Vibration Dampener, and the Mount. You can also add the Waterproof Charger to this setup and I think it makes it much more convenient.
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How it works after a year now? I saw somewhere a comment that along with that damper after a season still lenses were damaged
If ya had an old Nokia brick phone you could tape it to the tire and it wouldn’t care . 😂
Those phones were indestructible!!!! All you had to do was swap out the covers 😂😂😂
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Thank you Kevin for all that you do. I don't ever have any electronic distractions on my road bikes, but this may help someone. I truly believe that I lost a new smart phone 3 years ago from the high frequency while T.I.G. welding the engine mounting plate on my drag bike. It was a expensive lesson, but I'm grateful for the lesson learned. Hopefully I can help someone else. Now when I weld any material I make sure that my smart phone is off, as well as far away from my welding power source.
GOD BLESS YOU SIR.
Great solution. I had the same mount you were previously using and broke three iPhones in four months this year mounted on my BMW R9T (all under warranty). The article from Apple came out about a month after I was onto phone number four and I had switched mounts. I received the famous customer service line “I’ve never seen that before”, but I guess they had.
I have had the Quadlock system for almost a year. I absolutely love the system.
I think this would be really good for adventure riders going down the trail. I’ve seen these advertised. Thanks for doing the review
Thanks for yet another excellent and informative video! I am currently looking to get a phone mount and of course one of the first places I checked for reviews was MC rider. You never disappoint! Thanks bro!
Good information
I was about to start using a handlebar mount.
Have been carrying it in the windshield bag with no problem. Thousands of miles.
Yes, vibrations from mounting on the handle bars can overtime damage your phone, weather apple or android. So, using the vibration damper does help. I've been steady using the quad lock for a year now, no issues.
Great tip Kevin (Mainly for those riding HDs that tend to shake more than a paint shaker) but only happens with newer iPhones !
I've been using a Quad Lock on my R1250 GSA for about 6 months. I've got it mounted to the accessory bar and so far no issues with my Samsung S21+ and very little vibrations overall. I have no worries about the phone coming loose with how the case locks into the mount. If any other GS riders are wondering Quad Locks mirror mount fits on the accessory bar.
It took only 2 months for my 2012 Super Tenere to screw up my new iPhone 12. It was still under warranty with Verizon, and they were nice enough to replace the phone. I'll be looking at the new QuadLock mount. Thanks MCrider!
My T100 killed my IPhone, I did get the quad lock and vibration dampener and no issues since, glad you posted this , I don’t know of any other mount that has a dampener. Thanks !
Thanks! I just ordered the quadlock to protect my new device
I love the quad lock mounts. I'm using them on all of my bikes. I had a hard crash on my dual sport six weeks ago and the phone never budged. And when I'm touring on the ADV bike it's nice to have a completely waterproof charger.
You must have bounced back okay and that’s a good thing. Glad you are well and those mounts are impressive.
So did you rub some dirt on it and get back to riding?
Personally I use a rokform
Not yet. Doctor's orders. Along with some new titanium hardware holding my clavicle back together. Another month and I'll be good to go.
@@r1dutch Dang Dutch. Sorry to hear that.
Thank you! This is the exact set up I want to try.
Great info Kevin. Thanks. Thought I’d let you know that I purchased one of the cooling vests you recommended in a previous video. My wife has MS and it has made a huge difference in her riding enjoyment and lengthened her riding season. I have a 2021 Wing Tour and I mount the cooler pack on the luggage rack. She loves it. Is that a RDL seat on your wing?
Good Info Kevin @MCrider .. I hit a Deer so hard my Speedometer quit working on my Yamaha FZ-07 .. I just installed 2" handle bar risers for my short arms.. I had to make a plate to raise my speedometer two inches .. now it moves when I hit bumps .. My front forks are much stiffer now with Olihn Cartriges..
I think I will had a layer of thick rubber truck intertube between the speedomter and the mount..
I have mounted my Compter GPS componets on the dash of my lime spreader trucks with rubber intertube for insulation ..
Kevin, I appreciate all your tips and helpful suggestions, but I wanted to pass along my experience using the new Quad Lock solution. Initially, I had my iPhone XS mounted on the Indian-supplied Rokform console mount for my Roadmaster for several years without issue. But in Oct of 2020, the camera lost the ability to focus while riding on the Blue Ridge Parkway. Not knowing why, I let Apple fix it, and moved on. In May of 2021, I decided to install Rokform rigid handlebar mount on my DRZ400. The engine and/or road vibration killed the focus after only 2 hours on only paved roads. That's when I found out about the vibration issue. Based on that Quad Lock graph and their claims, I bought two Quad Lock mounts for both bikes in June, got my phone fixed and had no issues using it all summer on my Roadmaster. However, I just went on a trip to the Smoky Mountains with my DRZ and the new Quad Lock, riding only paved and some excellent forest service roads. The autofocus went out on day two (strike #3). I think the Quad Lock is a reasonable option for 2+ cylinder bikes on the highway, but as far as I'm concerned, only your pocket or on top of a tank bag is an option for off-road use, especially for a thumper bike. As far as what are killer bikes, I think ANY motorcycle or even a mountain bike ridden on trails or poor roads can damage the delicate autofocus or image stabilization of a modern phone. The Quad Lock is like a helmet, better than nothing. My two cents.
I know this is an old post but in just curious, have you used a Qual lock dampener when that happened? Got my quad lock and have also bought a dampener. After reading your post in now hesitant to put my iPhone 13 in there.
@@ImALefty08 sorry that I wasn’t clear, but the quad-lock claims I was referring to was with the dampener, which I had on both bikes. They don’t solve the vibration issues on thumpers or rough/off-road. I’ve had no issues on my touring bike with the quad lock and iPhone XS. If you can see or feel the phone vibrate at all, it will destroy the autofocus.
I see.. will keep my old phone as my bike gps then. No point upgrading
Thank you sir. I was just looking for a good mount for my dirtbike to record my rides but this has been enlightening . For what it's worth I have the Samsung s22 and with an amazon holder and about 45+ hours my phone is in perfect working order but my mount has finally broken to multiple pieces (after a wreck) hence why I'm watching your video. Also my videos are trash from the vibration so I hope this helps. Thanks again
I was using the RAM mount, ruin my iPhone 8 camera. I have changed to the Quad-lock with the dampers, so far over a year of riding, no issues with the phone. It works!
Few years ago when RC multirotors started to emerge same problem was faced. Vibrations from motors with props would play havoc with IMU in flight controllers. There were many experiments done but few were successful. These include moongel, sorbothane pads, rubber band suspension etc. Try experimenting with moongel pads by sandwiching these between phone & phone holder so that they absorb the vibrations from the holder.
Good video Kevin. I have a triump bonneville. I didn’t think about vibration because I sparingly use my phone except when I need to look at nav. I will be looking at the quad lock. I hate throwing out the ram mount but don’t want to destroy an expensive phone
My son and his friend both had their autofocus die on their phones using a Ram Mount. Android on a Yamaha 700 & iPhone on a KTM 1390 Super Duke R (Beast 3.0). They both switched to the vibration damping quad lock with zero issues last summer!
Good to hear.
Good to know you’re a one man band. I’ve been supporting your two years now.
Thank you Robert, I appreciate the support!!!
I've never mounted my phone because I knew the vibration wouldn't be good for it. When I need GPS, I just use my bluetooth speakers in my helmet or ear buds. My main reason is that I don't use a windshield or fairing and I've seen too many rider's phones come loose and go skipping down the asphalt at 60mph or small rocks, bugs and debris smacking into it. I also don't like a phone baking in the hot sun. That can do some serious damage. I prefer to keep my phone in my jacket or pants pocket.
Yikes! I've got a 2010 Rocket Touring I mount my phone on once in awhile. Thanks for the heads up! I'm pleased to see you have a Rocket!!! One of the latest 2500cc jobs even! Cool! I love mine! I'll keep my phone in my pocket till I upgrade my mount. :)
Holy crap! This exact same thing happened to me and I didnt realize it was due to mounting on my handlebars! I ended up having to get a new phone (which wasnt covered) and was scratching my head about why it happened.
Thank you for this warning! I had no idea. I'm not going to buy another phone mount, I think instead I will just keep it in my pocket unless I really need it for navigation.
Thanks. That a nice piece of advice. Better later than never. I had my issues with the quadlock mount and after recovering my phone from the i-store , I got the new dampner but I still am cautious about using the phone again in there. I put it on the saddle bag and listen to gps instructions instead. I don’t rely anymore installing it on the motorcycle handlebar. This is not very practical but at least is safe in what concerns to the iPhone camera well functioning . Anyway, thanks for the video.
I had to replace my phone for the same reason before I read about the vibration issue. I use the X phone mount on my Vulcan 900. Going to try this new mount and hopefully it will work.
YUP! Just took my Iphone 11 to the local repair shop - same issue!! 2021 Street Bob. Thanks for another great video!
Im having trubble with clutch adjustment and been searching for a good video explaining it, i remembered you and how well you explain and go to detail.
What im wondering is the aftermath of adjusting the cable.. how do i know and how can i figure it out thats it is correct?
Alot of people say wrong setting will burn the clutch in no time.
Do you have a video of it or could you mabye make one?
How to adjust it there is alot of videos. But cant find one on how you can tell its good or bad.
Tnx for awsome videos!
Great video Kevin and thank you for your high quality content. I didn't catch which iphone model you have- I have an iphone 13 and have read this camera is somewhat unique and more sensitive to the vibrations. I would like to get the quad lock but want to make sure it is safe for the 13. Thanks. Tim (BMW R1250 GSA)
Thanks Kevin! Appreciate the suggestion. But not even a shot of the Rocket III.😭
MC I use my phone as a app interface to my rear camera via wifi. For example a mirror behind me. I made a holder from a car holder. Its Neck I modified and mounts to the center of my handle bars. To support rotation of portrait or landscape perspective while on my bike, I use rubber hose rings that mesh together in the phone mounts neck. Hence, it does not loosen up that much when rotating, and the implicit benefit is shock dampening.
Thanks for the useful information!!
That’s the same setup I’ve got Kevin works well thanks for the video..👍🏻🇦🇺
I never had a issue with my Galaxy phones.. Never used a vibration dampener but with the sales this weekend I bought a whole quad lock setup with dampener and wireless charging, couldn't resist being on sale.
I use a quad lock with vibration dampener for my 12mini. Been on my vStrom 1000, boulevard c50 and Spyder F3. Over 12k miles this year with no issues.
Good video. Have a Honda Shadow and the same thing happened on my LG phone. I suspected it was the motorcycle and vibrations in the mount that cause it.
Thanks for the information Kevin, God bless.
I had the same issue. Thank you
Hi Kevin. I experienced this issue last year after a day trip. Reached home and was wondering why my phone was making a buzzing sound and having a fuzzy image when I turned on the camera. Sadly the warranty on the phone has passed. Since then the phone stays in my pocket and only attached when I need to charge it when I am on a riding break
Hi Kevin I used the quad lock just over a year now never had any problems now I’ve got the bmw gs it’s awkward on the Handle bars so I contacted quad lock and they sold me the stem mount system goes in the nut of the head stock bearings works perfectly well looks good to just done a video on it 👍👍👍
did the same to mine. got the quadlock dampener is clutch. havent had any problems since.
Hey Kevin, thank you for the video, really got me thinking about getting a quad lock for myself. However, I would like to know how does the mount fair at high speeds like north of 90miles an hour? I have had one of my previous iPhones fly out of the ram mount and since then anything that looks fragile throws me off. Have you been able to check its performance at higher speeds than normal? BTW, I ride the GS 850 and the R1 and I want to get this mount for both the motorcycles.
Thanks for the information
I have this set-up on my Royal Enfield INT 650. It does a great job. I ruined my last iphone's camera on my KE100 with a cheap phone mount. Live and learn.
I've been using a Quad Lock phone mount with my iPhone 11 pro max mounted to my my 2020 Harley Davidson Street Glide since January when I purchased the bike. 8,500 miles later and I have not had a single problem with my phone or the mount, I've been VERY PLEASED. I will be adding the charger to the mount
Same thing happened to my phone camera. I’ve started putting my phone in my pocket. Doing so also removed the distraction it could create.
I’ve been using the quad lock vibration dampener on a Honda rebel 500 for about 4000 miles without any problem so far. Hopefully it keeps working.
Good to hear.
Thank you sir for the timely warning and advice. PS - Nice Man Cave!
I’ve had the 18 GW DCT for 3 years (just like yours) and haven’t had any problems. I guess it shows how smooth the GW is. You didn’t mention your wing as a culprit, so it must not be causing you any problems.
The Goldwing is not an issue, I don't mount to the handlebars there.
Same 18 GW DCT. No problems at all.
The DCT is the transmission, the engine still transmits vibrations, for the price of the dampener I wouldn't risk ruining your $1500 iphone.
Thanks for the tip.
Thanks for the PSA
I use a GPS system (tomtom rider) on my handlebar and keep my iphone in a fanny pack, thinking it wouldn't be damaged that way. I don't ride a particularly "high powered" motorcycle, but there's plenty of vibration from the bike and on the roads where I ride.
Would keeping the phone close to the body reduce risk of impact to the phone? I think so, but I'm not really sure.
I have had this problem with a Ninja 650 using a Ram support (with a Iphone 8 and with an XR), also a friend of mine has had the issue on a CBR650R with an Iphone XR using a quadlock support (without a dampener)
This issue just started with my 12 pro max. I have a 2013 Cbr500r with a quad lock fork stem mount without the dampener.
Been wandering why my phone was tweaking. Thankfully found this video. I ride a Softail slim
Stem mount, center console, 3m industrial two faced adhesive pad.. Steel plate glued to rubber armored casing meets the stem mount magnet. Dumped the bike when someone came out in front of me at a gas station trying to beat my 900 lb 9ft long sport tour to the pump. Phone never movef.
Appreciate the channel Kevin for sometime now...
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Not so much.
Just my two cents worth.
The vibration issue destroying things is nothing new. I have been wearing Seiko Sportsmatic 5 self winding mechanical watches since I picked my first one up in Vietnam in 1966. Over the years I have gone through a dozen of these watches while riding hundreds of thousands of miles on motorcycles. Having them rebuilt or repaired over the years, the repair shops eventually tell me that the vibration destroyed the internals of the watches and prevents their repair after about 5 years. The worse offender was my Norton Atlas and my little Yamaha RD 250B two stroke that I rode from 1968 through the early 2000s. I couldn't get 3 years out of the watches. The repair shop told me it just destroyed the mechanisms. Unfortunately, the Seiko Sportsmatic 5's are no longer available in the United States unless you order them on line from dealers in South America or Japan. Since switching to Harleys in 1995 through today, I have been averaging 8 years per watch, about what you would expect from a mechanical watch. I keep my cell phone in my pocket.
Hi Kevin, how about mounting your phone in between your handle bars, would it have the same effect?
I mounted my Note 10+ on the tank to use as a GPS.
I have a Kawasaki Vulcan S and it does create issues on my phone. When I turn on the camera, it turns really shaky. But it fixes itself after a while. Sometimes minutes, sometimes hours.
For how long it will keep fixing itself, I don't know, but I'm not planning to stop using it as GPS.
I'm also using Quadlock, but not the vibration dampener. Might order it.
Android, no issues. I also use quad lock, but no dampiner. 17GSA and 98 Wing.
I’ve got about 5000 miles with my Iphone on the bars of my 2020 Tiger 1200 with the quad lock with the vibration damper. No problems so far.
Kevin, I have a Suzi Burg 400, and as such have no space to mount a phone holder on the handlebar, only have real estate on the mirror or a mount on top of the brake fluid holder. I am leaning toward the quadlock but am also considering the ram mount as well. Any suggestions regarding a solution?
Dana
I'm using the quad lock vibration dampener on my BMW F800GT (which is the in the list), with my Samsung S20+. I know it's not an iphone, but better safe than sorry. The autofocus system in these phones is probably very similar and subject to vibration damage.
It doesn't matter if you're using android or apple, all phones with image stabilization are at risk. Only older phones or any phone without an image stabilization are safe to be used without a dampener.
nice job.
hello sir. does quadlock fork stem mount produce more vibration compared to quadlock handlebar mount?
Same thing happened to my phone, I think this happens when you try to take a picture while connected to the bike. I have a CBR 500 and after a week of riding it claimed my phone
My dr650 made my quad lock mounted iPhone 10 camera go wavy after a gravel ride .. was gutted , on a whim a ran a fridge magnet over the camera and it came right .. been good for last 6 months .. phone stays in my tank bag now .
Talk about multiskilled, you're worth more money ! ! ! Have my phone attached to a handlebar mount for over a year, Had no problems, but having said that I've got a feeling something gonna happen .
I had the same camera issue my OnePlus 6 on the rs 660 (auto focus) the phone died a few months after no idea if it's related since the phone was abused with gaming for years
What did apple do that fix your iphone? I'm having the same issue with the buzzing sound on the camera but the difference is there is no changes on the performance of the camera. Thanks
40,000 miles now carrying my iPhone 8+ on my Kawasaki Concours using a handlebar Ram Mount no problems yet!
I just kept my old iPhone 10 to use on my Harley. I use it for Bluetooth music and gps so if camera goes bad no big deal.
No problem with Samsung s20 on vfr800, guess the bike is just a smoother engine. I did fit the vibration damper to gain a little more height but that was after I did 1500 miles in 4 days on the NC500
where does the charging mount plug in to? Is it plugged to a ignition keyed source or to the battery?
Do you have any information on gas tank mounting? Will that cause the same problems? I use my phone for a speedometer and navigation.
I'd be interested in in that information as well. Based on experience I would think that the tank would be less susceptible to vibration but I don't know that to be true.
My iPhone 11's camera was damaged while using a Rokform case and mount on a KTM 390 Adventure. Same symptoms as yours, but I think my warrantee is expired.
Hey Kevin, what's that guitar on your garage wall? Is there a story to that, buddy!?
This is good info to know - I wonder if there are any similar issues with any of the GPS models (just put a Garmin Zumo on my Tenere and it growls pretty good through the Nav tower)
Probably not, Iphones are just crap technology. Buy a Samsung, never a problem.
The vibration kills the phone's image stabilization mechanism (a mechanical assembly). Doesn't kill the phone, just the camera. GPS's aren't affected.
would you also need a vibration dampener whenur just on a scooter or only high powered bike
Why no matter what clamp style or the product, I always cut a strip of bicycle inner tube to go between the metal and the clamp to reduce vibration
iPhone 13 mini here with this problem, I have used the handlebar mount quadlock for 2 weeks now and my phone cannot take a photo now it’s constantly like I’m shaking, would not advise getting
Hi Kevin, is that the IPhone 12 you have? My IPhone 11 (out of warranty) camera broke down because of a fixed phone mount on my handle bar. I bought the new IPhone 12 now and put it in my jacket. I’m missing my navigation, so maybe the quad lock is a option 🤔.
thank you kevin
Ive gone through 2 replacements through apple and 2 repairs for my iPhone 12. A rokform quad lock busted one as dide my ram mount.just sharing as a warning. Buzz and not able to focus with it.
Question, is the Rocket III one of the known bikes causing issues?
Only put my older iPhone 7 on my Diavel 1260 handle bars once, using a different mount on 2-1/2 hour ride. After that one ride every time I would open the camera app it would look okay, but when I went to take a picture the app would crash. Thankfully a restart fixed the issue, I haven't risked further damage by mounting my phone since then. Looking at that Apple article, it lists iPhone 6 and newer as being ones that can be effected. Thought it was only newer phones. I will probably pickup up a quad lock at some point so I can use my phone for navigation in the future. For now I am just putting my route into waze and then putting the phone in my pocket and just listening to the audio directions.
iPhone 6s doesn't have optical image stabilization, only ones I have seen be affected by this had it.
iPhone xr mounted to the handlebars of a 250L ruined the rear camera,only took a few hrs in the woods to do it.
I have a Q mount, with a vibration dampener. My question is, does your phone still vibrate a bit even with the dampener?
I try to leave the cell at home except when I go for a long (cross continent ride). But, this does cause me to think of my recent $500 investment in my Garmin Zumo, which thus far I love... I will keep you posted!! Obviously, it doesn't have a focus adjusting mechanism but seems to be a pretty sophisticated piece of electronics....
Yeah, iPhone 11 Pro Max camera wrecked. Mounted on the Quadlock wireless charger unit but no vibration dampener. Bike, 2014 Suzuki Vstrom 1000 (DL1000A).
I pulled up somewhere to take photos. Camera not focusing. A friend told me about this vibration issue. Phone nearly 3 years old. Cheaper to buy a new one. iPhone 13 Pro Max. Even with the dampener I still worry as the camera is important to me. Don’t want to wreck it.
I love my handlebar mount and use my phone vs my android auto on my Africa Twin. My phones cost a fraction of an iPhone so I'm not going to worry about it until it happens.
This happens to phones with Optical Image Stabilization because of the mechanical gyroscopic lens/sensor that can be damaged by vibrations.
Same thing happened to my iPhone with a Rokform mount and I ride a 2021 Honda Rebel 500.
I have a motorcycle (Street Triple R), an iPhone 8 and Quad Lock mount without any vibration dampener. No issues at all, after 2500km. Must be an issue only for the latest fancy $$$ cameras, my iPhone 8 is 3,5 years old, has OIS and no issues.
2500Km is not that much, I have had this issue between 5000 and 10000KM
Peak Design now makes a competing product with a built in dampener. It’s significantly more expensive than the Quadlock, at least here in Australia. Might look at it when it’s more established in the marketplace.