My oldest 3D Printer... Is it STILL any good?
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- The UP! Mini was my first 3D Printer ever! Let's dust it off, discuss it's history and test it out with the same models I use for my 3D Printing reviews today.
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Hey there, I was one of the developers that did the temp hack and I also still have my UP Mini. Nice to see the tool actually helped some people ;-)
Hey! Your hack did more than help me, it seriously changed how I used the machine instead of using a resistor and 'hoping for the best'. Really do appreciate the effort that went into it.
@@MakersMuse Love to hear that! Our main goal was actually to make the temp change so absurdly easy that tier time just put in that feature themselfs ;-)
If now only the software worked on linux too, that would be awesome. I made the (almost) full transition away from windows one year ago, but still have one old win7 laptop just for printing on my Up Mini *sigh* Maybe someday. Keep doing what you do, your channel is awesome!
@@NGSForsaken The software runs fine in Wine.
@@_droid The new one (Up Studio i think) or the old one? I didn't get it (the new one) to work due to problems during the driver installation. If you have any tips to make it work that would be awesome :)
Me too! Your hack was bloody brilliant and let me do so much more with my little printer. Thanks again for doing it.
"We should all be supportive, regardless of how someone wants to get involved". This philosophy should be applied to everything. Well said, Angus, and great attitude. You're probably my main inspiration for getting into 3D printing, and it's easy to see why. Please keep up the awesome content.
Appreciate it Joseph!
drugs?
Hearing you say Dollary-Doos was probably the highlight of my night, and the Model Y has yet to be revealed
I hope it's going to be good. Otherwise it'll become a Model "Y ?"
That was the moment I liked the video.
I think we had the same haircut, except you had it in 2013, & I had it in 1982!
Dat hair :D
Fashion trends take a while to reach oz.
Cool
Me 2020
Think my uncle had it in the mid 70s
Looks pretty good for a printer designed way back then. Sure it may lack the smarts of newer printers, but the easily removable extruder assembly, slide out bed, fully enclosed print chamber, those aren't even standard features on every printer designed today!
I appreciate pulling out your old printer. I did the same a few weeks ago and am in the process of getting it back up and running again. Thanks, for the video.
Very cool. Still have my first PLA printer, and it still cranks out paying work a couple of days a week. Always enjoy your videos.
Wow! 2012! That is a great history you were able to share. Thanks for taking the time. Your wisdom in the area of 3D Printing is well informed by your thoughtful experience.
Great as always, and I especially appreciate the bit of insight into your philosophy on inclusion that you spoke of at the end of the vid. It is really quite amazing how this technology has become so accessible, and the more people that get access to it, for whatever reasons they may have and at whatever technical level they choose, the better the world is for it. Thank you Angus!
Impressive that the printer still is going strong.
Well done Tier Time
Thanks for sharing😀👍
Great video Angus, your videos have saved many near failures since I got my Cocoon Create ModelMaker at Christmas last year. Thank you for your vids.
I've only been printing now for almost 2 years. It was tough at first but theres a lot of support out there. You being my number 1. My #1 hobby is locksport but this is a really close second. How close, I have 6 machines running now printing lots of locksport tools for my community. I think what there capable of is amazing.
This was my first 3D printer, and I still using it since 2014, next to my WD6. Modified the hotend with an extra cooling fan to print PLA and it's working flawlessly. Still a great little printer. 🙂
Thanks Angus, it was an awesome video as usual, and I felt the second half vocalized how I have felt about buying at printer - I want something that is just going to work, not something I need to debug. For now Im pretty happy watching you and Naomi on your channels. P.S keen on the up coming reviews of the two higher end printers you are reviewing.
Your comments from about 10:50 in are spot on. I am a car enthusiast as well as a general hobby, and now 3D printer enthusiast, and it all is awesome.
just got given one and i must say its pretty cool its had a learning curve as i got it in peices and put it together so far created a red cube
good to hear its a great starter printer to get me into the hobby im already looking to create some cool things with it
You empowered me, as well as so many others. I decided, on the basis of your review, to get a Tronxy XY-2, and I'm extremely happy with it. Still having first layer issues, and dialing in all the settings (your point is valid there) , but as a tinkerer I'm enjoying doing so.
I knew 3d printers would be this cheap one day, but I didn't expect it quite so soon, and to be quite this good at the price.
Thank you, Angus. :-)
Good tip on the new software supporting the older machine, I'll have to check it out. The place I bought my mini from had an inline switch block that plugged into extruder and the existing harness plugged into that. Never did use it though. The removable bed is great. I bought a piece of PEI and stuck it on one of the perfboards as a test and have had reasonable results.
I started with a monoprice select mini and after just a few prints, I had the printer dialed in and had the confidence to click start print and walk away from it knowing there wasnt going to be a problem. Shortly after I bought the next step up, the monoprice maker select and minus the build time it took even less time to set up. I highly recommend both printers, so far they've never let me down and they're cheap
My first 3d printer was a da Vinci aio. Scanner didn't work, was the main reason why I bought it. I messed around with it. Then I bought my current and expensive 3d printer. My seemecnc rostock max v3 now a 3.2. I had some issues with it. Since this time I had support from the community. I was able to make it work and now its. My workhorse for all my projects.
That era of 3D Scanners were basically a scam, really frustrating promising things they simply couldn't do. MakerBot digitizer and sense scanner were all guilty of it.
I bought the UP Mini 2 because of of you! Love it!
A fascinating piece of history. Thank you.
Your review on the UP! Mini 2 have given me the final decision when I have an offer on an used UP! Mini 2 in 2016 as a company was not able to utilize it to their need. Still happy with it after 2yrs and is still going strong. Other than their higher price filament but luckily I am not a heavy user.
I have a cetus mk2 and love the ease of use. And with the anticipated upgrades for the board; so that I can use other slicers, it goes to show that Tier Time care about their customers.
Hey Angus! I enjoy that you did this video. I very much appreciate you discussing the issue of super cheap printers not living up to their promises/not working properly. The first printer I bought was an early Printrbot SImple Metal, which worked pretty much as advertised and really got me hooked while building my confidence in 3D printing. Then I bought a Wanhao Duplicator I3 copy (The Malyan M150) and have had far more problems with it, but it's been a fun learning experience. Then I bought an Anycubic Kossel Mini and it's just been a pain. I've been fighting it every step of the way and if it had been my first printer I probably would've gone years before taking the risk of buying another and would've missed out on many very cool opportunities that I have had because of my 3D printing capabilities.
I've had my Anet A8 (yes I know...but I've made it safe with the proper upgrades), for 1 year now and I'll probably feel the way you do in 7 years. It's enabled me to do so much and learn a ton. It's also let me embark on creating my own 3d printer from scratch. It's just great.
I wonder how many of us A8 owners went on to scratch build our own printers?
Are you building a HEVO?
@@vizionthing I'm building a prusa i3, I am doing the wooden frame version and so far I've got the frame parts laser cut.. My goal is to build something tried and true that is heavily supported and then using the hardware and electronics from it to build something else, maybe of my own design.
I still love my Up! Mini, with some simple mods and tiertime's new slicer I am able to print ABS and PLA on .15mm layers with almost no issues. Still a great printer.
Hello Angus, I have been enjoying your videos. They are very helpful. I am looking to dust off my flash forge c which I have not gotten back to in years. I hope that with using your information that I can get it running and working properly. Like you mentioned in the video, with not knowing the tweak and tricks I walked away from it when it would not print correctly. Thank you again.
I had one of these back in the days and other than the nightmare of getting the prints of those perforated pads it made pretty decent and strong prints.
And it was one of the most silent 3d printers i've owned with the cover closed.
That brings back memories. Mine was a SeeMeCNC H-1 back in 2011.
I think the conversation of tool vs hobby is even more relevant now with polished turn key products like the AnkerMake and Bambu printers. I've seen a lot of 3d printing snobs scoff at them for not getting an ender or one of the million generic replicas. I personally have 2 printers, to do both. My Ankermake is my "tool" the one I can trust will work without much fuss, my Tronxy x5sa is my "hobby" printer that I can test out new ideas and stuff on without too much worry. I value them equally but for ENTIRELY different reasons, both equally valid
I almost gave up on the first night when I got my ender 3 then I almost quit again 3 months later, now I'm explaining to a few teachers how 3d printing works. It takes a lot of time to learn, but worth it in the end
What was the problem 3 month later ? Any significant single one ?
I'd like to know too. I'v got my Ender 3 two months ago and I'm quite happy.
yea ;I had a problem with my ender 3 it was under extrusion and as a newbie I didn't know it took me months to figure out
What you said about being supportive really applies to me. I bought a printer that stopped working and I honestly had no clue on how to fix it. The fixes were so complicated I threw away my interest in 3d printing.
I recently bought an anycubic mega and I hope it will renew my interest in this technology!
I am in the process up upgrading my Ordbot Hadron from 2012. The perforated phenolic plate, inspired by the Up Mini, is something I am trying to work into the upgrade along with a PEI removable surface. I remember being so surprised by the thermal image of the build plate spreading the heat so conaistantly!
Love the Hadron, might have gone with one but they were just too difficult to get in Aus, but the Up's had a local distributor.
I like the different intensions/motives brought up. Some channels are all about tweaking the printer. This is not, this is about making stuff with it.
I'm into making stuff I can get only with 3d printing. As a newbie I chose a reputable printer to avoid all the tweaking as much as possible. It is so hard start to get into tweaking when you have no idea what is the problem. I did not have high hopes for the $1000 range either but was plescntly supprised with a low end printer I got on the side. With pla that is not is not that picky cheaper ones seems to work fine as well.
The higher price printer of mine is from another planet though, better firmware, autoleveling, good drivers from the start, ....
I have 2x UP machines, Mini and Plus1 - they were my go to for anything what just needs to happen, super reliable.
When I've switched to UM2 as my go to machine I've decided to heavily modify both old boys...
Mini got new Marlin capable electronics etc for finer control - plan was to transform it into my ultimate PC machine.
Plus due to the linear rails were re-fitted with E3D V6 and 0.25nozzle for fine detail printing, Marlin board as well.
I don't regret it by no means but I have to admit that now it's more of a hobby than just a tool... Now I make sure 1st layer is going well before I leave, not like before - just hit start and 99.9% of the cases no need to check in until its done.
Nice retrospective, not so much talking about the printer , but your hair cuts over the years.
Tiertime is an underrated manufacturer, but I’m happy with my Up Plus 2 & Cetus mk1 extended
Upvoted because of the haircuts!
Born Again Maker - upvoted you because of my luv of comments about comments on Angus’s hair
I think we can all agree that throughout history my hair is usually too long but can't be bothered getting it cut 😂
I think that anyone's first 3D printer holds a special place in their heart. My first experience was with a Makerbot 5th generation and a broken RapMan.
I feel for you, that must have been a mission. Bits from bytes machines looked amazing and... That was about it. 😂
My first was a second hand anycubic kossel pulley and I absolutely hate that thing. It sat shelved for over a year since it would never level correctly. I bought an ender 3 pro and I love that thing, and was eventually able to print some parts to hack the kossel into being mostly functional. I through a 0.8mm nozzle in it and it's my fast/dirty/sturdy printer for when I need brackets or things that don't require a lot of detail. Maybe one day I'll disassemble it and do some major upgrades on it to get it into full working order, but at that point I'll probably just harvest it to build a hypercube.
long story long; don't ever buy a second hand delta printer as your first printer.
Reppin UP Mini Life....yeww i have two on my desk at work, still love it for prototyping.
Awesome. I was bit by the 3D bug through sheer chance by buying a cheap I3 clone. The learning curve was indeed steep even when I come from an IT background but now have a disability. Getting a Prusa in a few days and can't wait. I agree that this medium has unlimited potential. I feel that it will someday be in everyone's homes in a form we just don't have yet.
Angus, you can print PLA as well on the UP Mini, I get great results. As long as the room your in is air-conditioned and I leave both doors on the printer open. I have two UP Minis one set up for ABS and one for PLA. My PLA machine perf board is also a shiny black i find it works better for PLA also
This was a fun video! My first printer, the "thing-o-matic", rests in my attic. It printed like crap compared to todays 3d printers, even the bad ones, but it kickstarted my interest in 3d printing. I think I paid close to 2000USD for it including taxes. At least yours looks consumer ready and does not smell like burnt plywood. One thing that is different now is that we have big communities where you can get help, but the drawback is that there is way to many bad printers which makes a lot of people needing help
Great to see the UP mini getting some love Angus!
I found mine in the trash about 2 years ago. It was missing its power supply and spool holder, used locked down software and the hot end fan looked like an old boot that was left out in the sun; quite the hot mess.
Luckily, I found that a HP laptop brick had the same voltage rating and plug, replacement parts were easily printed on my delta and the software was easily hacked.
It's been my trusty backup printer ever since so I'm really pleased to see it back in use on your channel. I'd love to see some upgrades (like a new heated bed) if you can find them!
Cheers
In the trash?! Ouch. So glad you got it up and running again. There was a heat bed upgrade at one stage but that was long ago...
@@MakersMuse Yeah in trash! I used to work in a makerspace and the amount of valuable stuff people would throw out was unreal!
I might use the bed output to trigger a relay and just control it with a spare ramps board as that heated bed upgrade was way overpriced if I remember correctly. That being said, it's super reliable so far, so I'm reluctant to mess with it too much :)
I started my 3D fab adventures in 2012 also!!! I agree the prohibitive cost drove me to keep that printer working and thus taught me so much about the whole engineering and manufacturing sectors...thanks solidoodle.
I just found back my Prusa Air 2, a really old printer design that didn't work as good as it should. Now I am going to completely take it apart and rebuild it with the knowledge I've gained in the past 7 years to make it into a superprinter :)
Still use my first printer as well. It's an original Turnigy Fabrikator, I put an E3D v6 on it to print polycarbonate and it prints beautifully and never let me down. It may not have some modern features but I can depend on it to work. I feel the same about it as you feel about your Up Mini. Great video.... Strange... suddenly I feel like printing something. :-)
My first 3D printer was a 2nd hand market used Davinci Mini. While I did research how to get around the chip-locked filament stuff, I am really glad I started with that one. Even though its abilities are limited, its an incredibly easy tool to use. Combine it with Tinkercad, and it was IMO the perfect starting point for s curious noob. I'm now considering passing it on to someone else who is 3D curious as I was. Until then, I still use it for some really small prints, as the ABL, ease and simplicity can often spit out some really small parts, before my CR10S is done heating its bed 😅
I was very lucky to have already bought my first printer before finding and following the main youtube channels (including this one) ... had I done it the other way round I would not have bought my Anet A8
But Its still going strong after three years of use (including all the parts for my HEVO) and I may never have fallen into the 3D printing hole without it. The problem, it seems is that you have to pander to the 'hard of thinking' and 'lacking in experience' people and play it safe, there were very real issues that needed to be avoided with the A8 both with the power supply and the heat bed connection, luckily I found out about these problems while I waited for my box to arrive and avoided fire and death with ease.
I still use my Up! Mini as my primary machine. It stills goes well and gets lot of use. Mostly stock machine and using the new software. It is such a good workhorse it makes it hard to justify upgrading to anything newer for my use cases.
Still use my UP mini with Polymaker PC-max/Polymax PC as well as abs and pla. Super reliable and with Buildtak on the perforated bed popping prints off is easy.
Angus, would you create a new price point - recommended printers list for 2019? I' had purchased an Anycubic i3 Mega on your original recommendation and it's been a great printer. Just wondering what you'd be recommending in the new current crop of machines. I'm definitely in the more "using it as a tool" rather than tinkerer category. Also wondering what your opinion is on the vslot/roller vs. direct drive screw linear bearing architectures was? Seems like vslots are much more prevalent these days.
My first printer was the Anet A8, I know that it is infamous for fires and is kind of looked down upon in the community, but even though this thing was a hell to get working, I'm still happy I got it because it helped teach me everything i need to know about 3d printing, it taught me everything to look out for when preping the printer, and it taught me patience, now I own a Prusa i3 Mk3 (now a Mk3S cause of free upgrade) and I am still being taught patience because even the prusa has been causing me some problems which I've had to fix. Either way, I am very glad I didnt give up on the Anet, and I'm glad I was able to learn everything I could from just working with it, to your videos guiding me in everything I needed to know.
P.S. To anyone that reads this, dont buy an Anet A8, it was a dumb idea, I was a dumb kid who wanted a cheap and big printer, get something better, dont be foolish.
I am not sure advising people not to buy the Anet A8 is a good way to follow : I also own a Anet A8 and agree with the comment that says it 'it helped teach me everything I need to know about 3d printing". First of the Anet A8 print right out of the box without any modification (ok it can be better with a few printed part like the stabilization bracket or the frame bracket but once you get it setup with a few update it roll's like a charm). Secondly, for this price it is a learning machine where you will find lots of information and tuning possible. On the other hand if you are looking for a all-in-one pre-configure setup it is certainly not the right choice. But IMO for someone who like to learn and tweak thing it is a real deal. For my background, I started with 3d printing in 2009 when it was nos even mainstream with rapid prototyping with an HP jet fusion (one of the first) and some other metal exempt. Here is the company I worked for and some of their application : www.sirris.be/blog/sirris-gives-lecture-about-3d-printing-production-technology-prototyping-2015
the ultimaker 2 i have at work still kicks the snot out of my ender 3. its not NEARLY as fussy about the bed leveing as my ender 3 at home. it just works. EVERY time! love it!
My first printer was a Tevo Black Widow. It worked great but not having part cooling fans made it a little difficult to print certain things. But of course you just print a fan duct and you are away... :)
I've actually bought UP mini (second hand) about a month ago. It was love at first sight! :) Prints ABS without any extra effort.
As for PLA, well... They advertise it does PLA, but probably just their own brand. Still, after adding an extra fan cooler and finding the right temps, I actually managed to print the 3D Benchy with ERYONE rainbow PLA (not that it really matters because the colour changes are so far apart that the Benchy still prints a single colour, haha).
I'm looking into adding an extra fan cooler to keep the overall temps down as much as possible for PLA printing. And I'm going to create a new (ball-bearing based) filament holder because the one that came with the UP mini cannot take 1kg spools, and there seems to be some sort of friction that makes it hard for the extruder gear to pump the filament evenly over the course of the print.
That's a bit of a coincidence - I had a project back in 2010 that needed a 3D printer and the only suitable one seemed to be the UP!, the original one. So that's what I got, for nearly three grand US$ and it worked quite well.
It's still on my desk and still gets used a fair bit even nine years later.
My printer from 2013 is still going strong with a couple of maintenance part replacements over the years. It still works well enough that I cannot consider spending money on a machine that would only be a marginal improvement at best. I know just where to hit it when it acts up
Litterally just picked up a new Ender 3 from Creality for only 130€ and I love it so far ! Having real fun working and printing with it I had a catastrophic missprint where like the nozzle locked up or something but the whole bed was off the screws holding the bed were off the head was encased in a giant blob of PLA and the head was banging into the control panel, I had to completely disassemble the the printing head and somehow the pla seemed to have ripped off the wires to the temperature sensor so I had to resolder them on and I was 100% sure that it was toast but It workes without any problems haha Its really fun to just work and mod the Printer
I remember my first 3d printer, it was a sintron i3 clone, it's heart and soul is now in my HyperCube which is my work horse which is almost car reliable
I started printing back in 2016 and my first machine was a Prusa clone that lasted about 2 weeks before it started blowing up control boards. I returned that one and got another machine that made decent prints but I always had to fight with it for hours sometimes before I could get anything to actually print. That machine made me dread turning it on and nearly drove me from the hobby. Fast forward to the MK3 announcement at this point I was basically done with trying to use the printer I had and had basically given up. I waited a couple months and decided that Prusa has had a good rep with the mk2 so I figure I give it one more shot. I have basically been happily printing since and even though I still have problems with the MK3 time to time its at least been reliable for when I do want to print something it works with out me having to do anything.
By 2012 I bought an Up Plus after I realized that an Ultimaker original (my first 3D printer) needed to much tinkering, so I decided that what I really wanted was just printing my designs, and it really worked :-)
you ever worked with a Darwin though? now there was a crazy beast. So many bearings and threaded rods....
Not personally but having to re level every print was something I heard a lot!
It was a pretty cool design!
holy crap I bought this in 2012 also! it only died a few years ago when my laptop stopped talking to it via usb, I can't bear to part with it LOL but for the cost of a replacement mainboard I bought a Creality ender3
and now Im bored with pla and going back to abs getting a Flashforge, thanks for this trip down memory lane!
and I remember you from robots and Dino's!
I also bought one back in 2012. It was my first 3D Printer and I loved it, than I sold it and now I miss it. I´ll check eBay to maybe get again my first 3D Printer :-D. Thanks and have a nice day :-).
Nice video, I'm still using my Up Plus but nowadays it's some sort of reprap printer working on a Arduino Mega because replacing the mainboard was to expensive
Ol' Angus, and a few others on CZcams, you just Like before you watch, and not feel disappointed.
how funny i just pulled out my up mini 2day as well, testing it out with the new up studio I think i can print down 1.5 layer hights now lol
Have been waiting for something like this Angus.....dench..
Was just thinking if I should quit trying to "upgrade" my 2.5 year old CR10 and say farewell. This is the video I needed to inspire new hope.
i can whole heartedly agree with what Angus was saying about a tool vs hobby and can also agree that the up mini is a great machine,
I am still using my UP Plus purchased back in 2012 for $2,000. And I still get comments on how well my prints come out. I just had the first real issue with it, requiring a new bed heater due to broken wires due to constant flexing. I'll be replacing that this weekend.
hey, my old school actually uses those printers still, thats kinda neat (i think it is anyway), and i mean i left there last year, and im 99% sure theyre still using them, so they seem to have aged pretty well there at least
WOW!! Thanks so much for the shout out! ;)))) so exited
Keep doing awesome stuff!!
Maker's Muse I will!! Thanks!!!!
What you said after about 10 minutes! If a buyers wants a tinkerable machine that's great. If the machine requires tinkering and constant fiddling to even do the basics then it should not be sold as a finished product. Me I want a machine that basically works out of the box. I do love the idea of being able to tinker and upgrade as an OPTION, not a requirement. Even one of the community low cost favorites comes with serious, not ready for prime time, issues. Firmware with an important safety feature disabled and even the ability to update it missing.
Awesome vid Angus! I was wondering if I could get your opinion on something. I want to buy another printer I own the the CR 10, but I don't know what to get the Prusa is a little pricey and I really dont feel like getting another creality machine such as the ender 3. So what would your suggestion be? Thanks
Backed the Newmatter Mod-t on Indiegogo back in 2015 for $249. Got it like a year later and probably printed thousands of hours worth of stuff on that thing. Still have it, but haven't used it since I got my CR-10s. I always feel bad when I see it in the corner.
It didn't review all that well, but man.... with a little TLC in the CURA that thing could print insanely accurate details!
Really bummed that Newmatter went out of business. :( The engineering and design of that printer are still really innovative and beautiful. The rack and pinion build plate was always fun to watch.
I was watching your video on solids of constant width and was wondering if you could make a Reuleaux dodecahedron, or a Reuleaux tetrahedron.
I still have my first printer which is an UP! Mini. I always hated the perf board as it was a pain to clean and would also tend to bend when doing large prints. I still have a good stock of ABS filament for it, so to make use of this and to reduce the risk of injury when removing a print with a sharp scraper, a glass bed was installed and seems to work quite well. I just wish that I could talk to it with my slicer software rather than using UP Studio.
2012 Angus had very poor choice in hair style
What do you mean choice? I think that's called "I can't be bothered cutting it ever" XD
@@MakersMuse ROFL
and that is actually the only bad thing you can say about up mini! :D
4:26 "But that's a Future-Angus problem."
Oh dang, outsourcing to the future. That's brilliant. Wait, I've done that my whole life ^___^
Hi there - I’ve been watching all your latest videos again looking for recommendations for a first time 3D printer that I can get in Australia. I want to be able to print ABS to support some design / maker work I’m doing. What’s the current sub $1000 printer suggestion ?
There is a $1000 3D Printer that I've heard of but no one really talks about. The CreatBot F160, it seems like a neat machine and would love to see someone do a review of it
Heck, I have been running a Da Vinci AiO 3 in 1 1.0 for the past year... bought it for $75 ... Came with some filament carts, arduino flasher for the carts, and mostly all the stuff it would have come with originally. I use it in conjunction with my Longer resin printers all the time. Really, I probably use it (DaVinci) a heck of a lot more at this point, as it's so much faster and cleaner to print rapidly with. It's old, and it works fn great. Keep it calibrated and clean, and it keeps providing as good of prints as it ever did on day one. Also fully enclosed, but much larger. Nearly 8 inch cubed. Plus it has the laser scanner in it. Similarly the bed here is heated and uncontrollable, getting its temp settings as well as the nozzle settings from the carts flash chip. Which I can reprogram, but I haven't gotten too into changing temps, etc... just resetting counts myself. That said, there is also the Repetier firmware for the printer, which turns it into a normal type... allowing for all the changes one could ever want, right from the printers interface and screen. Maybe someday I'll do this, but I've simply never had the need yet. As the stock settings have always provided a perfect print for me... providing I didn't leave a dirty bed, un-calibrated bed, etc. As usual old is better than new, at least for me. This was had super cheap, I can basically photocopy things with it... with the scanner and all. It works with a slew of computers that are older yet still outperform new variants, etc... lol. Save money, buy smart!
I still run my home built Prusa Mendel variant, MACH3 with a TB6560 4-axis board. STILL beats 90%+ of what I've seen from commercial home printers, and parts I've ordered from Shapeways. Built in 2013.
Great Video!
I have a basic UP Mini (the black box model 2015 - just like yours shown). Can you direct me to where I can download the software for this printer?
I just got a used one but can't get it to work.
Thanks!
I bought my first 3d printer, a Tronxy XY-100, through Walmart online and that printer was not a fun experience. It didn't come with the correct hardware, and one of the lead screws was bent. Luckily, I'm a lover of making stuff work when it should. Now I have an Ender 3 and I'm cannibalizing the XY-100's parts for a core printer so I only need one lead screw. Thanks to you, Angus, along with Joel, Tom, and Ivan, I'm learning CAD and making a great leap in learning. I'm even starting to get commissions for parts to be made. This 3d printing enthusiasm almost demands to be profitable and is unavoidably fun.
Having first printer that works decently out of box is so important. I hate when people advise newbies to buy a kit or get a printer and replace critical parts with upgrades and flush alpha version of some opensource firmware and so on immedialety after purchase. After a year I anyway know each part in my printer and did a number of repairs, upgrades and firmware config tweaks. But it is so valuable it worked out of box so I started my 3D printing journey very positively and had the printer doing its job since day 1.
Great channel, I am learning a LOT!
TL;DR - should my printed models have the same dimension as the design?
I don't know if this is the right way to contact you with a question but here goes. I recently bought a Dremel 3D20 and so far I have only printed a couple of test models in preparation for a project I am working on. I ran into a snag almost immediately - the printed model dimensions do not match the design; it's smaller. For example, a cuboid with two holes through it (14mm and 13mm) came out with holes of 13.71mm and 12.58mm. I used tinkercad to create the STL files. I used the PLA that came with the Dremel printer. I used all defaults. I contacted Bosche support and they said two things:
1. the filament can shrink so adjust the design accordingly,
2. tinkercad basically sucks for accuracy.
I am on the verge of returning the printer because I'm of the opinion that their support is full of it. How can I be expected to make models with multiple parts when I don't know what size the parts will be printed? so, is that a reasonable response from their support team? Am I expecting too much from an entry-level printer? How much do I need to spend on a 3D printer that prints pieces that will match what I designed?
I was totally blown away by their response. It's not like I am trying to create a hole with a diameter of 14.76 and it's coming out as 14.74; I think that would be an unreasonable expectation.
Thanks!
I’ve spent a lot of time on my mp mini and cr-10. I just want something that can do sla consistently for low money, I pre ordered the spark maker Fhd and who knows when that’ll be shipped out.
Funny I picked up an Up Box+ cheap (it needed some TLC), and I thought I was in for quite a journey of unlocking it out of the Tiertime ecosystem, but I have been pleasantly surprised, it is very reliable, very easy to use and to date just works so I have done none of what I thought I was going to do. BTW it prints PLA fine if the lid is open, PLA suffers from heat expansion so will get jammed in the all metal extruder it it builds to much heat, using the magic finger I have been able to determine that the temperature of heatsink on the hot end is much lower with the lid open.
meanwhile i have my first printer last year, the anycubic kossel. thought of going anet a8 but i was impatient and got this instead. yes it's a delta & terrible for beginners but it's fun tinkering with it, learned about all its parts, what is the best print settings & tuning the machine properly, the only thing i can't figure out is that the dimensions are always slightly off (0.2mm ish & uneven), and the printable area is worse than what i thought.
though it's a workhorse after i set up a customized marlin fw, i haven't printed anything worthwhile for now (only for ppl asking for print on demand), might change soon as i have plans in my mind lol
My first 3D Printer as well. Bought mine in November 2013. My first design was a cube of the PP3DP logo cube.
At the time it most definitely was the most user friendly 3D Printer. One trick I learned for this printer: turn your model 45 degrees on the Z-axis, so the model lies diagonally on the built plate; your model will be the strongest this way. The biggest downsides are the rather small built volume and the unhealthy ABS fumes.
Those downsides are the reason I'm switching to a new user friendly 3D Printer, the Sculpto 2 Pro: prints PLA and has a cylindric volume of 200x200mm.
Too bad you didn't print a 3D Benchy with minimal support and with or without raft...
I hope it is STL good!
Man I still have my up mini from 2013, my first printer, and I reckon still a baby, only ran 1.5kg of abs through it. Man the jaycar abs works wonders on it. Not all of ups filament is good, the royal blue gave me hell, clogs non stop, if it did print, it would never come off. I want to get it a new build plate. After all these years I just now upgraded to ender 3 max. How did u get the studio to work, mine prematurely stops printing
I have one of these printers. Got it off eBay about three years ago but it wouldn't connect to my laptop. Got it working this week… and am printing with the very old proprietary ABS that came with it… and the two or three Benchy's I've printed so far are welded to their rafts!
Printing too hot, reduce the temp to ~230-240degC
That is the year I was first logged in with this account!
Thats why i gave up on the MP Select Mini Pro for the Prusa Mini+. Just too much hassle getting it to work well. And what i have seen in the ender3 videos does strenghten my believe that i made the right decision now. But i am fully on board to say, that there is a need to get a printer which just runs and therefore if it is more expensive, that is ok. All the nights i spent trying to get the MPSM running were not worth the saved money.
0:43 - I thought this was a screenshot from Bill and Ted at first! xD
My school still uses their afinia h480