Zero Compromise ZC527 Scope Review
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
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00:00 Intro
02:25 About Zero Compromise
04:30 Feature Matrix & Reticle Comparison
17:02 Unboxing and Feature Overview
26:10 Range Time
30:15 Final Thoughts
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I appreciate how articulate you are, sensical and clear. Comfortable to listen to....and nice scope!
Hey Jim! Thanks so much for those kind words! I really like doing these videos and as I say, I'm not a pro, just a guy who likes this "stuff" and wants to share that passion with others like me. Thanks for watching my friend and shoot straight!
Great review and through the scope footage!
Thanks Chris!! Still working on that through the scope stuff, but I'm persistent and it'll get there. Nice shooting at the 22LR match my friend!
Very nice review of the ZCO scope. I love my ZCO scopes.
Thanks Passion! Yeah, I think at this level all these Tier 1 scopes are pretty much on par with each other, but I do like my ZCO a bit better! 😉
Thanks for an awesome review! Im planning to get the 4-20. :=)
Hey Atlas!!! Thanks for the kind words my friend!!! Let us know how you like the 4-20!
Nice review.
Thanks Tallyman!!
Kahles I believe uses Swarovski glass. S&B PMII and higher I was told run Schott glass. IOR also uses Schott or did about 4 years ago. Good review, glad you like the optic. I've heard good things about ZC. S&B also has illuminated reticle. I hate the extra cost for a sunshade as well. Ridiculous.
Thanks for the info P! And thanks for watching!
Any idea where they get the glass from? It would be nice to know as website lacking this information
Great scope and great review. New stuff gives me pause though. I have ATACRs on 3 of my rifles and I love them, probably will just stick with them for my next rifle, my buddy swears by S&B PM IIs, he has a handful of them and refuses to change. I guess it comes down to personal preference in the end.
Hi Dirtbiker! Yes, definitely a personal thing IMHO, that's why I try to tell people to do their research and find what works best for them...reticle, glass, function, etc... You have to be comfortable with the scope in match conditions where everything is second nature. Thanks for the kind words and for watching my friend!
I bought a Bushnell XRS II when they were blowing them out. The Tremor 3 and H59 were similar priced to the very basic G3 reticle. Could not handle all that visual noise and went with the G3
Hi Eric! Yeah, I agree. Now, if there is a specific reason to have that Tremor or H59 reticle then I'm sure they're great. But for PRS, I really want a simple reticle, great tracking, and clear glass. Thanks for the comment and for watching my friend!
Tons of great information, Thank you very much. Time to start saving my pennies & dimes.... again.
Hey Roger! Thanks for the kind words! Yeah, I sold a bunch of stuff including my Steiner and Razor Gen II to get this thing. I'm a minimalist when it comes to holding on to my guns...I really only want to hold on to what I'm using. Save up my friend and you won't regret getting this or any of those other scopes at this level. Thanks for watching Roger!
I understand great glass comes at a price. I’ve been a Nikon shooter for many years and the best glass cost$$$. However the difference is in the view. Thank you for the review
Hey SEKAF! Thanks for the comment and for watching my friend! Yes, good glass comes at a price for sure.
one more question, Im having a hard time finding one to order. Do you have a particular store?@@The4GunGuy
Nice review on the scope. I have been considering the ATACR 735. Have heard great reviews on the ZC527 and I also like the MPZC2 reticle for the same reasons. It appears that there are only a hand full of dealers and I can't find any place that has any stock.
Hi Mark! Thanks for the kind words! I reached out to a few folks, but you're right...No one seems to have these in stock at the moment with that reticle. Keep looking and thanks for watching!
I'm a former Nightforce fan until I switched over to March. I'd recommend trying the Sightron S8 5-40x56 on sale for under $2000. I tried one out and it's glass is really impressive compared to my March, Nightforce and Kahles scopes. I bought several more.
I would definitely go with the ZCO. Over the ATACR. I had an ATACR. Amazing scope. But the optical quality. On the ZCO. Is A LOT better. Noticeable a lot better
Happy to see that you got the best scope mounting system on earth. The ISMS Spuhr. Nothing comes close. And Zero Compromise Scopes are extremely badass. I use to work at mile high shooting in Colorado and I got to look through many great scopes. And they're in the 1% club.
Hi Elite! Yeah, I tried a few other mounts, but just couldn't leave my Spuhrs...built like a tank and I've never had that bar break on me yet and I've owned 5 of them on and off. Mile high are good people and support our sport, so I try to do as much business with them as I can. Thanks for watching my friend!
The Audere Adversus comes very close!
glad you open our eyes maybe you should look at the delta scope again there are a lot of scopes that are not on most people radar
Hey Mark! I had never heard of Delta before you mentioned them and I just looked them up. Seem like nice scopes and that reticle on the 4.5-30X56mm is wild! I'd have to get used to it for sure, but I understand what they've done there. Thanks for the suggestion and for watching my friend!
@@The4GunGuy You aren't missing out on anything, better off with a Mark 5HD that outperforms the Delta, and a far more reliable warranty that you probably wont need to use. By the way, are you shooting Navasota on the 20th?
@@Ravenrifle Hi Dan! Yep I'm at Navasota on the 20th...See you there!
Have you tried Kahles? How does the glass look compared to this? Ladder tracking test? I’ve seen other reviews where this scope doesn’t track perfectly. There was a review about tracking and the only scopes on your matrix that tracked perfectly are Tangent and Kahles. At this price they better be 100% perfect.
Get the Kahles, I’ve got both and ZC doesn’t track and they ignore emails about it. Basically a $3800 paperweight. Guess I got a lemon but fact that the only tracking test done on one on CZcams it’s also off should be a red flag that they arent putting out great products.
Love my Kahles and USO.
Nice review, I’ve seen one in person and they are impressive. Where did you see that Schmidt Bender uses Hungarian glass? Thought they had schott glass from Germany. I too prefer simpler reticles, my pm2 has the P4 fine.
Hi MrNice! Can't remember where I saw the Hungarian glass information but I was surprised as well. Thanks for watching my friend!
Great review. I'd like to see how the Vortex 6-36x56 Razor 3 compares.
You will my friend! THAT one is coming very soon. Thanks for watching again Common Sense!
I'd also like to see a comparison to the March High Master wide angle which has similar magnification as this ZCO.
Great video.could u do a vid on how to exactly zero the turrets both windage and elevation please.
Hi Joe! I'll do one on various scopes and how to zero...Thanks for the idea and for watching my friend!
@@The4GunGuy was wondering if u could do one for the zco please
Got the scope in hand nice , no regrets
Hey Dan! How are you liking it so far?
Yes no regret love the scope . Now I’m waiting for my ACC Stock and my Terminus Zeus action QC. Thanks for asking .
@@dancarpenter6507 Oh man, you're gonna love that ACC chassis...Good choice
Can’t see the switch to run to green how to change? Sorry
it's inside the battery compartment Dan. Take out the battery and you'll see it.
If they took the tooless zero from tt it would be perfect 👌
Congratulations. I been thinking about selling a bunch of my stuff to buy one myself. My middle name should be close out. Have ten different scopes that retailed for over $1000.00. Paid $160 to $350. Brands like Crimson Trace, Brunton and Barra. Like them all. All made in Japan. But there is a difference between tier one vs. tier two. One thing that I have learned is people here in the States are so into brand names. And resale value is terrible on a brand that people aren’t familiar with. A good thing for getting a great scope on close out. But if you pay retail. And later want to sell it you will take a beating.
Hey P47rr! Totally agree. I may have some nice equipment but believe me when I say it's the ONLY equipment like it in the safe. I sell to buy like you do and it keeps the hobby somewhat under control! Also doesn't hurt to have the fantastic wife I have! Thanks for watching my friend!
There's a difference between $1000 and under Japanese made scopes compared to real tier 1 scopes. I bet those those $150 to $350 Japan made scopes still blows away any of those supposedly high end Chinese made scopes though. There's a lot of people still wasting their money on $1000+ Chinese made scopes though but I personally feel they truly don't know any better SMH...
I've looked through a barra 5-25x50 and couldn't believe my friend managed to buy it for $175 brand new. I've been trying to find them online for that price with no luck so far. I've heard they don't honor their lifetime warranty so they end up being paperweights if they fail. I'm only trying to get a couple for some 22 rifles so they won't get any abuse anyway.
Nothing better than that German schott glass. Crushes that Japanese hd glass
Hi Tim! I agree...But, I'm doing a review of a new scope I just bought that will most likely replace my ZCO's (what!!!??) and the glass in this new scope is pretty darn good for 1/3 less than ZCO. Stay tuned and thanks for watching my friend!
@@The4GunGuy I’m waiting patiently…how about a clue to this new scope? Great channel and videos!
@@jimhall2262 Hey Jim! I'm still doing that video but it'll be a bit of a surprise ending...spoiler alert, I'm not leaving my ZCO's!
Probably the Vortex 6-36x56 Razor 3 when used up to 32x.
I now have the money for the scope do you have any recommendations were to buy. Thanks in advance
HI Dan, I'd start with DI Precision (diprecision.com/zero-compromise-optic-zc527/)...David Lott is a great guy and he'll treat you right. If he can't get it, then you can try Mile High Shooting (www.milehighshooting.com/zero-compromise-optic-zc527-5-27x56-mpct2-reticle/)... make sure you are looking at the RIGHT RETICLE for you :) I love this MPCT2 reticle, but I'd also take a hard look at the MPCT3...It's pretty sweet
Got my scope today 😃
@@dancarpenter6507 Awesome! Let us know how you like it Dan.
@@The4GunGuy used the American rifle company mount love it scope is top notch last one I’ll buy
@@dancarpenter6507 That is AWESOME!!! Isn't it nice when you do "buy once, cry once", but you really see that value in that decision? Really happy for you man!
I would say this scope is the most worth it at the 3000+ price range. I think it has better glass than the khales i've looked through, definitely better than a gen 3 razor, better than the S&B i've looked through. Only thing that beats it IMO is a Tangent Theta but I don't think the TT is $1500 better than the ZCO, which is why it's the scope on the top of my list
Hi Force! Yeah I agree with everything you said and I'll add that the MPCT2 reticle is the best out of all those in my opinion as you saw me point out. Still very happy with my ZCO! Thanks for watching this one my friend!
We’re you in squad 4 at Nationals?
Hey "6"! Yep, we shot together bud!
@@The4GunGuy well shit I didn’t know you had a channel. Great videos by the way.
@@IY6C Thanks "6"!
What sphur mount do you use for your ZCO
Hi Garrett! It's the SPUHR:SP-6001: 0 MIL/0 MOA Height: 30 mm/1.18” Clearance: 6 mm/.236" (from the bottom of the tube to bridge of the mount body) Length: 126 mm/4.96” Weight: 240 g/8.5 oz. Thanks for watching!
Thank you!!
@@garrettstephens2290 You bet. Now make sure you're scope mount rail on your rifle is a 20 moa rail. If you have a zero moa rail on your rifle then you'll need a 20 moa spuhr scope mount...make sense? My Impact Precision action has a 20 moa rail on it which is why I went with a zero moa spuhr mount.
I was actually thinking about putting in on a rimfire that has a 40 moa rail with 0 moa in the sphur will that work out ok?
@@garrettstephens2290 Perfect! I have another ZCO on my Vudoo V22 and it has a 30 moa rail, so you should be fine there.
I read wind n shoot agains5 it hight turn aga8nst wind n shoot
Bella recensione
Un chiarimento
Il vetro Smith e Bender è Schott ed è tedesco non ungherese
Grazie per la correzione amico mio e per la visione!
Are you still happy with this purchase? Thinking of calling MileHigh and biting the bullet - throwing this on a new 6.5x47 Im building and then putting my Razor HD Gen II on my Vudoo.
Hi S F! Yep, I run two now...One on the centerfire and one on the Vudoo. The Razor is a great choice for the Vudoo and I ran one on it for a while. I just wanted both rifles to be exactly the same (well except for the obvious!). Good choice and you'll LOVE this scope. Thanks for watching!
@@The4GunGuy Im a little conflicted about the razor on the 22 and Ill tell you why - I have a 3-15 on there now, at 400 yards its like having a 20 something scope at 1000 yards. I figured it was also good sight picture practice. 27x at 400 yards will be much more clear than I can see at 1000-1200 yards on the bigger gun.
@@sf2189 Here's the thing, you won't EVER dial that Razor beyond 20 in the 22 match even at 400 yds which is maybe once in a match, maybe. We are generally staying within 300 yards in our matches. With that said, if you have a good, quality scope with clear glass now that you like maybe sell the Razor? You'll get good money for it. The one other thing to consider is the way the scope handles mirage, because the wind in 22 matches has a much larger affect than in centerfire as you probably already know. At 200 yds in a 22 match I may be dialing/holding 2 mils of wind! Maybe try your current scope for a bit, take the Razor to the range and put it on the bench and compare the two side by side to see what works the best for you? Just some thoughts.
@@The4GunGuy Yeah that makes a lot of sense. Great advise thank you. The Razor will be a step up on my vudoo and has served me well on my bigger guns - so totally comfortable on how it handles mirage and seeing well through it - its a great scope with lots of podium finished (for others, lol). Ordering the Zero Comp today and putting that on the big gun - thats going to be amazing. It will be a nice step up from the 3-15 viper thats on the Vudoo now. At some point I will do same as you and sell the Razor and get another Zero Comp - if I got two now, my wife would kill me or make me buy her something as expensive. Lol.
Smith e Bender è tedesca non ungherese!
Great video, now i am having a hard time deciding on which scopes to buy , would like to pick your brain if you have time to talk thank you Donald Costello
Hi Donald! The scope you want or need really depends on a number of things. First is budget of course. Second to me is how good your eyes are now? I'm older, and I've moved from the ZCO to Vortex Razor Gen III's for my three competition rifles now since they fixed the initial issues they had when first released. I loved the ZCO, but the reality is that the best glass can't help my older eyes now, so it's a waste of money for me. I can't see bullet trace, period. If you're younger with great eyesight, then the ZCO, Tangent Theta, etc... might make the difference. Third is what are you going to use the scope for? If PRS competition, then again, a Razor Gen III or Gen II would be just fine. I still also have and use my TRACT Toric scope (see review on that one) which has excellent glass and one of the best reticles I've used. I hope this helps. Email me if you want to discuss further my friend and thanks as usual for watching!
Thank you i will@@The4GunGuy
Pretty well too expensive for most blue collar workers
Hi Brian! Yeah, they're not cheap, but I promise you I've sold a BUNCH of stuff to afford it. I only have the scopes that are on my two competition rifles and don't like to keep stuff just to have it. I think there are many tier 2 scopes like the Vortex Razor Gen II that are great for competition. Hey thanks for watching my friend!
I worked my way up from cheap to high end expensive Chinese made scopes then Nightforce and finally March and Kahles. Hard to go back to expensive (especially for being Chinese made) high end Chinese made scopes.
ZC is for the rich people (like almost everything reviewed by gun channels) 😟
Hey Randy! Trust me friend, I'm not rich. I sell many things to buy the next one thing like this scope, but certainly see your point. I hope to have this scope on my rifle until I stop shooting. Thanks for watching my friend!!
I'm not rich but have worked my way up in scopes. At March and Kahles at the moment.
Good scope, but over priced.
Guess I’m unlucky because mine is trash, the 4-20x50 model. Yes the glass is clean but meaningless when it won’t track and something is clearly broken inside the turret system after less than 200rds. Multiple emails with one response asking a stupid question and ignored after that. Fortunately I’m blessed financially so it’s not life changing but I think about someone else saving and investing in one of these only to have this experience and it really irritates me.
Might have to make a trip to shot in Jan and pay their booth a visit where they can’t ignore me.
I think one of the owners was fired from NF then sued them to get the money to start this garbage company.
So buyer’s beware, if you get a lemon it’s a $3800 paperweight.
Hi Gideon! Man, sorry to hear about your bad experience. I've had the same type of experience with chassis, sizing dies, and other equipment, but the ZCO has been very good for me over the years (I've owned 5 of them on and off). Please keep pressuring them and make them take care of you...WE are the customer, and sometimes these manufacturers forget that. Thanks for watching my friend!