Scope Reticles Explained with Former USCG Precision Marksmanship Instructor Billy Leahy
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- čas přidán 25. 01. 2021
- Getting into long-range shooting and confused, and maybe overwhelmed, with all of the scope reticles you can choose from in the market?
In this video, Billy Leahy, former USCG Precision Marksmanship Instructor, talks about the common optics reticles you'll encounter. He covers the following reticles:
Standard Mil Dot
Leupold TMR
Nightforce Mil-XT
Horus Tremor3
Vortex EBR-7C (MRAD)
Vortex EBR-2C (MRAD)
Vortex EBR-4 (MOA)
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One of the best videos on reticle explanation I’ve seen. Thank you for your service and for sharing your knowledge. EXCELLENT!
For me personally I use the Leupold for hunting because I won't shoot past 400 but have been using a Vortex for precision shooting at the range between 600-1000 on paper and so far I love it. Great video thank you for sharing it.
Thank You so much Tactical Hyve for your teachings and sharing your knowledge to the masses.
You're welcome!
Awesome video! Thanks for sharing. I’m turning 60 soon, and decided to take up shooting as my new hobby and passion. I’ve been doing lots of research on scopes. I’ve pretty much decided on a Leupold scope that has the Tremor 3 reticle. Watching your video just confirmed my decision was the right one. Thanks!
I've got a mk 5 hd that fits that description, and it's good glass. A christmas tree helps a lot when you need to be able to handle targets at multiple ranges, since you can dial a solid baseline and remember the holds for the rest of the targets, and when you hold above a target, you can still hold laterally for wind, which is key.
Mr. Billy Leahy is very good instructor is very clear and easy to understand.
Most higher end scopes offer performance that most people never use. Most people will sight in a scope at 100 yards and hope they can hit targets further out. Its like any other tool: learn to use it or use it incorrectly.
I wouldn't say "most".. If people are interested enough in a scope to pay $2k for it... then you can bet that they're going to be interested enough to learn how to use it--- at least watch videos about it... hints why we're here. lol
Speak for yourself
@@calholli I'm here to play a video game better lol. I can have any scope for free xD
@Rectify Custom Guns Over here they (Rich elite hunters) just buy what the Gunshop tells them what the best is. Then they buy the Smidt and Bender or Swarovski, zero it in at 100 meters and that is it. most have no idea of how these scopes work. it's all about status.
Wtf are you even talking about. There's a reason you zero your optic at whatever specific range. Consistency. Are you sighting in your scope for every distance? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That was the best spent 24 minutes of my life. Thank you.
Thanks for that. I am building an ar10 .308 so im exploring the scope ideas. Never used one and know nothing about them. Just learned more with this one video than i thought I would. I really didnt understand what all that mess in the reticle even mean. Now I have a much better understanding. still got a ways to go but i feel better about it now. thanks again.
I’m in the same boat as you. It’s a big learning curve before buying.
I'm fairly certain that an AR15 in 308 is an AR10
Glad I found you or this video it will surely make it easier to explain all this to my grandsons. I have several of these reticles.... Thanks
Great video. Would have saved me time researching this for myself years ago.
I find it funny though: most people's go to argument for continuing to use an MOA scope today is that 1/4 MOA is more precise than 0.1 MRAD, yet in the MOA reticle the first hold is at 2 MOA (0.6 MRAD) where the first hold for the MIL scopes (aside from the original mildot designed in the 80's) is 0.5 MRAD.
I'm not actually making an argument for or against either, just pointing out that that particular argument holds no water unless the glass matches the resolution of the knobs: most important thing is that your knobs match your glass (I just learned this week that military mildot scopes on the M24 from the 1988~2014 had MOA knobs: this is heresy, it should not have happened, and I feel bad for anyone who had to live with that evil! I grew up thinking that this was just really cheap scope companies making scopes with MOA tooling because the company didn't want to invest in MRAD tooling: I had no idea Leupold was producing this insanity for our servicemen!). Unless you really love math, pick one or the other!
I had that scope. MRAD for reticle... MOA for dial...1/2 MOA clicks. BS is what the ARMY asked for
Yes I heard the same thing MOA knobs and MOA reticle or MRAD knobs and MRAD reticle !
DO NOT MIX !
I use the Vortex EBR-2C reticle in MOA. I feel there are so many shooters who don't utilize the full potential of the reticle. Combine that with your rifles ballistics, and it's amazing how accurate you can be. 🤘
PST Viper 5-25x?
Great video of the reticle breakdown. I too teach the breakdown of reticles for quick engagements for military and for hunting. I use Training Sights as well during my class on how to use the holdover and for correction shots.
Thanks!
This is amazing, very professional and natural explanations. Thanks heaps really appreciate to info
You're very welcome!
Thanks for the video.
Always a blessing sharpening my skills.
Best to ya my friend.
Correction on the basic mil dot reticles. They did not come out in the early 90s. I used them on USMC sniper rifles (M40A1) going back to 1983, and I believe they had been around even earlier.
From one vet to another vet I thank you for your service, I subbed to your channel after you explained to me about all those little lines, something I had no knowledge of on how to count them out, and their values, your explanation was easy for me to grasp, thank you again for your service
I'm an iron sight/red dot kinda guy and am just getting interested in precision rifle, this video was just what i needed! :)
Really great presentation and explanation. Loved the Horus reticle with the speed calibration. Cheer.
Great video brother, I keep coming for a refresher lol
Very helpful and great breakdown of the types of reticles out there today
On the Nightforge MIL-XT, you had 3 MIL broken down into .2 sub ten, not 2 MIL.
I knew someone would have already fund out, saved me typing LOL
Saw that too. had to check the comments to make sure I wasn't tripping.
Awesome breakdown.. I run a Cabela Covenant 7 5-35x56. Great scope for my 6.5 and I have another on my 7mm Remington Mag also.. Once a newbie understands these concepts, misses decrease rapidly!
Glad it helped!
super refined Kentucky windage.... great video
Excellent video, thank you. Huge help for me as a complete new guy.
Such awesome, concise information. I finally understand this stuff!
Glad you enjoyed it!
On the Nightforce Mil-XT reticle, the first mil dot below the horizontal center is 3 mils wide from the vertical center, not 2 mils as you stated.
Exactly, I caught this as soon as he said it! Even above his finger saying 3mils
Phew - glad you commented that ... I thought I'd missed something critical - it didn't make sense for that to be 2 mil. Thanks.
bro i got so thrown off when i seen that as well.. i was like. i missed something here... lemme see if anyone else caught it or im retarded lol
Ok..just posted also. Thought maybe I was missing something. 😂
As someone new to scopes, this is clear as mud.
Thought to my self this afternoon I'm going to learn how to use an mrad scope.
This is the most informative vid I have seen,
You are an absolute mine of information.
Liked and subbed.
Thank you .
Great explanation of reticles thanks
I was in the Army and we trained on simple Mil-dots with M-24 rifles. I never envisioned that reticles would be so busy that they are almost obscuring the target LOL. If I go out, a simple laser range finder is sufficient and I check my dope book for the holdover shot. Fast and easy and I can be assured my target will still be there.
Great video, I personally only use iron sights and my freezer is always full, old school, nice and simple
Boringgggg
Great information Billy 👍
This video explained a lot. Very helpful.
Great explanation...I'm going to transition from MOA to MRAD just because of the numbering convention. Also, I really appreciated the explanation of the Horus reticle. To date i favor the Nightforce reticle but with your explanation of the Horus...I may rethink this a bit more.
The intent is to not use a high tech chassis firearm but use my 2012 Model 70 Super-Grade chambered in .270...should be tons of fun but also a steep learning curve.
Thanks again!
This is my first year shooting ever and I have always wanted to try and understand all these different reticles and why scopes have price differences.
Now I have a better understanding.
ps: for now though I will stick to MOA BDC reticles until I master them then move up. My reticles have only 3 hashmarks so easy to follow. 1.5 , 4.5 , 7.5 and 11 MOA for now :)
I watch this video to go to sleep. lol
I know it wasn’t the point of this video, but I finally got a solid understanding of MOA vs. MIL for reticles.
With the amount of range time I have and inability to access a range with targets over 100 yards out, those elaborate reticles like the Horus wouldn’t be helpful *for me*. Where I live is heavily forested. A “big” field might be 20 acres. IOW shots beyond 400 yards are extremely unlikely.
I appreciate the knowledge sir.
On my hawke scope is on 10x zoom one midot 10 cm on 100 meters.
The pellet drop is 50 cm @ 100 meter on my fx wildcat , to hit the target shoot 5 mildots higher.
Great video! Great information!
Good Job Billy Bob!!!
I’m a fan of the Leupold duplex (didn’t even make the list). Where I hunt the shots are under 250 yards, most under 100, and often the deer are moving. I may only see the deer for four or five seconds. At dawn & dusk the FireDot is a huge plus.
Thanks so much. New to scopes and now I understand!
Welcome!
Great video! Thank you!
Great presentation
Great video thanks !!
Thanks for this practical review! I can see you invested a lot of time in it.
Thanks for watching!
Love the TMR
During this video I at least twice tried to find parallax knob.
Insanely useful
excellent information, thanks
You need to begin with a definition: a mil scaled reticle is a means to measure distance to target and can also be used for a bullet drop compensation function. For ranging just multiply target size in yards times 1000 equals X and then divide X by target size in mils equals yards to target. For bullet drop compensation function just zero scope to a placeholder distsnce and then transcribe bullet drop in mils to range card from zeroed distance to greater distances off a trajectory calculation for your bullet/velocity. That’s it.
That's what I was thinking. Once the mil breakdown is explained on the first couple it doesn't need to be explained again and again - basically the whole video was one of repeating the same basic information, which becomes tedious and redundant, rather than explaining how those measurements are put to practical use.
The same can be done with MOA reticles, though the formula is a little different.
Thanks… from a beginner that has a few scopes that are mil. Mia… you have game SIR !!!
They all sounded so similar.
What do the mil marks convert to at distance?
Awesome thanks!
Great video!
Thank you
Well done!
I never knew spending $2200 on a scope was cheap. Lol
Most optics cost more than the weapon itself a $2200 sniper scope is actually good when a sniper can range from $6K-$15k
I would have liked to seen some range calculation examples using the mils/different reticles.
Thanks for sharing
Thank you, clear and useful info.
I'm useing a vortex viper with the hold over hash marks, which gives me some crazy hold over distance like a fixed 374 yards at 300yds I have to gage just how much less then the hash that would be.
Its like I have to use the the turret to dial up to get precission. Slow and have to count clicks and remember to reset to zero....
So my bad I bought it. Learning.
Dialing is how you get accurate shots on any scope. Especially at long range. That's the whole point of doping your rifle; knowing exactly what to expect at each range so you can dial to account for that. Keep practicing, you'll get there
Good information thank you
Awsome presentation 🔫
Super presentation! Dude knows his shit.
Thank you for the knowledge dump !!
SFMF
In Sweden we do a lot of range estimation on the clock and 0.1 mil lines are essential to do fast accurate range estimation. I use the MSR reticle in an s&b, it is very good for this.
I could see that, especially on a spotting scope, but I feel like that stuff would get in the way when shooting holdover no?
@@wilfdarr it's easy to see through if it's etched properly on the glass. I've never shot with that exact reticle but I have looked and tested some off hand and the first thing I did was test holdover viability. It does get messy of the target is behind mixed brush it seems though depending on zoomed power vs distance.
Great video. Can you possibly cover the new Eotech SR-4 reticle? Thanks!
Thank you.
I'm learning about distance shooting, and this explains WTF is all that nonsense going on in my scope!
LoL!
Great breakdown easy to understand. Taking a LR class from you guys is definitely in my future.
Hope to see you at one!
damn ...there is sooo much i have to learn .....
Mil reticle and MOA dials. Hold for movers with wind on dial from MOA wind constant formula.
Great video but I still need to find one dumbs in down ever more. I dont under MRAD, MOA, mil, wind angle.
As long as you understand your reticles readout you should be able to use it as stadiametric range-finder wether moa or mrad/mildot
I still like a standard mil for sure it’s not as accurate as my g2dmr or even my milGap ret but I just love it’s simplicity
Good job
Good video!!
Great Job Brother -
RLTW
ALWAYS put a zero in front of a decimal like .2 so we don't confuse it. 0.2 is clear. .2 is less clear especially when written. There's already dots all over those diagrams.
Athena BPR mil is the best precision reticle I have ever used and have used just about everything out
It's easily number one, outside of the Tremor 3/5. Nothing compares to the Tremor 3 though.
There's a lot going on there. I would like to learn more about range estimation, and subsequent adjustments to make, using either a mil or moa based scope.
Check out the Nightforce Mil-XT, He marked it as 2ml but it is actually 3ml. Right of the center
Good job..
Excellent vid overview! BTW, there is no 'LEO' in Leupold
MILs is great but feel a great number of people use MOA scopes such as myself - would love to see a MOA vid too. Cheers
He did.. you didn't watch it.
@@calholli I think because it was DOMINATED by MILS on this video and there are so many BETTER MOA scopes out there
18:47 MOA starts.
2 kinds of people in this world... those who shoot mrad and those who will shoot mrad
Moa is cool.. Because sub- moa means your a baby sniper
Looks like the tremor 3 is the best long range reticle
With the modest amount of research I’ve done the mil system seems better than moa. Should I set my rangefinder for meters and think of targets and wind in metric units also?
Question, does the military still use MOA measurements when referring to grouping on paper?
Great content - fantastic explanations! I only wish the cameraman could keep the picture in focus. I am very interested in the little lines the instructor is referring to.
I think I understand what you are talking about, bit have no clue what any of this means in the realm of actually shooting. I did a lot of shooting in the USCG from 1963 until I retired in 1989. I have never used a scope in the military and when hunting I always used open sights, and did well like that, Ron USCG MKC RET
Great vid mate 👍🇦🇺
Glad you enjoyed it
I already knew all of this... It was nice from the beginning to the end anyway!
Nice video presentation. After several scope/reticle combinations over the years, I settled on the simplicity of the Shepherd Dual Reticle System. Reticles are available in 9-inch, 18-inch, and 24-inch stadia circles. The 9-inch and 18-inch stadia circles seem tailor made for a SHTF moment, should it ever come.
Guessing your a Marine veteran. If so does the Corps teach mils or yards using their ACOG scopes?
I’m not here to be an armchair quarterback.
I just want to complement you on a very well executed block of instruction.
I saw a hunting scope that kinda looked like the EBR-4 MOA, but it had different circles that got smaller and smaller in a rifleman mag. They advertised that at 100 yards you lined up the game to fill whatever circle and it was on. Anyone remember the type of scope that was?
Was wondering if you would give a review and thoughts on BDC reticles. Acss griffin and such. Didn't find a video on those. Ty. Great vid. I'm very picky on whom I subscribe to, this got my click.
the Griffin is amazing! I am running it on a short 6.5cm upper and with a 50 yard zero BDC using the first 4 mils is on with in .1-.2 mils the mil grid and tracking is right on the money
When you say the gap from one dot to another is 2 mil what does that mean?
Awesome video and I'm super beginner here. But what is a mil?
@6:21 it looks like you made a mistake.. that should be 3mils in .2mil subs. I've never even used a NF scope, but I can see the tree is to aid in the windage and the marks above are saying 3 not 2 mil.
I started watching this video to help pick a scope for my 77/22 ruger for squirrel hunting. Wow did I end up in the wrong place 😩
I would have you consider the Burris Fullfield 2 with the "Ballistic Plex" reticle.
It's a simple duplex with a couple hold over hash marks on the bottom crosshair, super simple and easy to use.
These are tough and inexpensive, I've seen them on 223's to 300 win mags and they hold up well.
Best of luck setting up your Ruger!
Guess the video description should have listed prerequisites for this class. This was like jumping into a sniper AP class without basic nomenclature studies.