Mega eBike Check - 2021 upgrades Coil Shock, Lyrik Ultimate and more...
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- čas přidán 10. 07. 2024
- Check out these fresh new parts including the 2021 Rockshox Lyrik Ultimate, Marzocchi Bomber CR Coil with Can Creek Progressive spring and a load of other sweet bike parts for my Decathlon Stilus electric mountain bike
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Hi all! Loads of people asked to see the changes on this bike so here’s everything!
Took mine to Glentress the other day and had a blast! First time there and can't wait to go back now I have a Magic Mary & Big Betty on the back...
Hey Rob, i'm looking to mullet my stilus to, but I want to use a zeb 180mm. This wil give the bike 1 degree more slackness i think. What do you on a longer travel fork?
Hey Richard, you may be pushing it a bit with 180, will slacken it off a lot with mullet too. Most I’d go is 170 which is still a decent increase over stock (they originally had 150mm on this bike)
@@RobRidesEMTB Thanks for the advice. Still not sure what to do now. Keep my 27,5 wheels with a 180 fork ( that should give me 1,5 degree more slack, every 10MM is 0,5 degree slack). or do what you did and go for the same setup. In my opinion the slack is the same, what do you prefere and why? sorry for my nagging, the doubt is making me crazy ;-)... Love your channel by the way... Cheers
Hi, what are the measurements of this shock absorber?
There’s nothing like us Brits for meddling.
I’ve swapped out so much stuff on my Stilus, my wife is sick of ‘bloody bike bits’ arriving through the post.
Also, there’s something cathartic and rewarding about actually doing the calculations, upgrades and work yourself.... offset, travel, height, reach, clearance, 1 finger/2 finger, choosing bigger or smaller components, even down to something as simple as Grips. Just mind boggling how much of an expert you become in the field of ‘building your own bike’.
Your video confirms my suspicion that I’m not the only one doing this, I felt obsessive before but now I can carry on tweaking.
Thanks, great video as always Rob. One of my favourite channels.
That look amazing. I also have a Stilus which I’ve just fitted a 2021 Lyrik to and a 29 wheel is on its way soon so I can go full mullet. It rides so well and has opened up so much more riding than a traditional mountain bike, while also having the stability and handling of my old downhill bike.
Rob, I like all the additions you have made. They all make perfect sense, and look amazing as well. Cane Creek is just a couple of hours from me, and they make some of the best suspension components in the industry. Thanks for the bike check, it really reaffirms some of the changes I have planned for my bike this winter.
Best Regards,
Ron
Turned it into quite the looker. Lots of performance upgrades in there! 💥😎
As always great video, I am going to order those brakes and cranks for my Stilus , thanks Rob.
great video Rob. Your info helps me alot.
much appreciated
Cheers Tapon 👍
Love the upgrades. I do the same thing with my Trek Rail 9.7. Back to 29ers x 2.6 rear and 2.8 front. Upgraded fork to 180mm. Great BB clearance and slack head tube. Very supple ride. Great handling. Enjoy your Frankenstein. 🤘😁
Ur bike checks are super well done, nice and thorough
Cheers Rhys had to edit this down as it was actually over 30 minutes!
Very good job with your video, Rob. Really interesting and wise commentaries. Great knowledge of the bike world. A whole pleasure to follow you. From Spain, best regards.
Hey Rob Rides Emtb! Thanks for this ultimate ebike upgrade experiment! Somebody had to do it! Had my first ride up to snow at 740m above sea level! Ride ride ride!
Next level shots, keep it up😎
Hi - congrats on your upgrades. Did you have to use any adapter for the CC Progressive spring with the Bomber or does it fit right of the bat?
Love a bike check,I agree with you're the hope brakes coming from riding motorbikes I love the levers and the tactile modulation they give.nice upgrades 👍🙂
Great vid! I’m looking to get both the bomber and the CC Vault progressive spring, but I thought you also needed to use a clip converter? Doesn’t look like you have one installed?
Does your coil shock hit the frame. Looks extremely close on the video. Love this bike!
Love to see it Rob "quality" . Can't beat creating your own personal bike, you'd not recognise your old Levo , pretty much done everything to it you have with this one . Cool to see your own bike isn't one of the great expensive bikes you've tested .
Miss that bike!! To me these bikes are like ongoing projects, always like to tinker around with bits to try and improve!
Did u have to get the bosch reprogrammed for smaller rear wheel?
Appreciated all the rationales, but particularly your explanation around the 15min mark of that balanced weighted feel as a result of those longer chainstays Rob. From acoustic bikes we'd been leaning to shorter chainstays for nimble playable feel, so getting my head around the longer chainstays of planted ebikes is finally making sense : nobody wants to wash out the front wheel with that extra speed and weight
Sick ride dude!
Cheers!
Rob, I have heard coil springs are really good for heavier riders but I don't know how true that is. I'm 240lbs. Would a coil spring shock be an upgrade on my turbo levo comp 2020? Do you know if from a performance position that coils outperform air shocks for heavier riders?
Great video Rob. I am also defensive regarding my stilus, all my mates call it the Aldi bike due to it coming from a supermarket...But none can match it on the climbs.
Rob, I am wondering why you didnt go with the 170 Lyrik. Too much slack?
A week on any bike and yeah will get accustomed to the ride characteristics. Looks sweet.
hi rob i fitted a new chainring spider same as yours with a 36t ring the the chain in rubbing on the tire 2.6. did you have to space the chain ring out at all thanks
What a project!
Been a good project bike to work on
Would be good to see a ride comparison against something like a Levo or another Bosch motored bike.
You've transformed it into a beast! Great video. My bikes out of action for the foreseeable after finding a crack in the carbon frame yesterday. Gutted considering it's only a 1 month old ALLMTN 7. 😭
Hope they replaced your frame. Haibike are well off my radar since seeing all their reliability issues from people on CZcams
Hello Rob,
What do you think of the new stilus 2021 settings? Is it worth pulling the trigger or wait another year that decathlon issue his new cheapo rockrider?
Thanks for your return :)
looks like the coil touches the frame at the bottom? Is it causing any stiction?
love it!
Where did you get the DHR 2 27.5 X 2.6 DD. I can't find them anywhere on Maxxis web site.? Do you have a serial number for this tyre?
what spring adaptor you used for running that bomber shock?Cheers
Hi Rob, What do you think of the Hope crank arms? What did you have on before and have you noticed any difference in stiffness?
Honest answer is I can’t notice too much difference in stiffness. But they look stunning!
Perfect electronic bike!
I bought a 2020 Focus Thron2 6.8 after you tested it and love it except for the rear shock, I am 63 and a large framed and on the heavier side being 112 kg butt naked so am pushing the weight limit of the stock Suntour shock !!! Can you suggest a shock that can handle my heavier weight as with the stock shock if I set the correct sag I still use almost all travel on even very tame trails and is a bit harsh on smooth trails, any suggestions will be appreciated, thank you, oh and by the I don’t miss any of your videos as I feel you seem to really know your stuff
The long chain stay isn't all bad, it adds loads of stability to the bike and makes sure the rider is nice and centred
Yeah it kinda works on this bike strangely!
I run continental mountain kings with reinforced tyre wall 👍, I love it works well in all conditions.
Looking spicy. You should do bike checks of other peoples ebikes and the mods they've done. Be a cool feature! Maybe get a group ride and pick out some bikes to do a bike check on. 🤘
Hi Rob, do you know if Decathlon will be delivering a new Stilus for 2021? Right now this bike is not available anymore...
Hi, nice upgrade. Is it possible to fit 29 wheel to fork that is coming on the bike from shop? Thanks.
Hi, just wanted to ask if you still need to put a spring converter or adaptor when you use a crane creek progressive spring on the marzhocchi bomber cr?
hi, no I used it with the stock shock
great job
Nice review Rob, people get to hung up on the latest and greatest but this seams like a good little underdog for an ebike newb or seasoned campainer to get into ebiking. I was thinking about hope brakes but unsure aboout the spongy feel, im currently running sram code r, id like to know your thoughts as a comparison.
Really like the consistency and power of the Hope brakes. Once you’re used to them you can really regulate braking power.
I uprated my entry level tektro brakes to Shimano Guide R four potters which I sourced 2nd hand off FB. Along with increased rotor sizes back and front, these have worked out to have load of stopping power along with great modulation but nowhere near the price for a set of fancy brand new HOPES!
Nice one Rob. I have the same fork and it's super plush. Try 30% sag and trust it not to bottom out cos it ramps up well at the end of its strike. Pressure will likely be less than you think right...try it!
Cheers mate, I’ll definitely play around with sag. Around 25% at the mo.
Ha Rob, I requested this vid thanks for doing it Really enjoyed it, it’s always very interesting to hear. If you see a really cool bike you want to know what the rider has done.
It’s the on the mountain or in cafe mtb chat with another like minded mtb biker ✌️
So my Stilus has transformed much like Robs, now with the new Rockshock ZEBs, Fox dpx rear shock, new tyres, new stem, handlebars, seat, dropper post is the Brand-x much better than the KS for play, GX rear derailleur the list goes on..I can add a CZcams video if anyone’s interested to see the bike.
Yeah would love to check it out!
While its nice to upgrade a bike I could be bothered buying a bike that needed 2+ grand throughout at it so saved up and bought a bike that was decked out from the off with better geo
@@phantombigballs8165 only problem with that would be, to buy an ebike from a dealer with all hope parts, xt 12 speed and lyrics you'd be well well over robs five grand.
@@alpine1609 hes spent more than 5 grand if all at retail prices. Including the original cost of the bike has to be pushing 6k. Id rather have a 6k bike with better geo personally. But each to their own
I was looking at the RS Zeb, what wheelsize, offset and travel did you go for?
Rob, you got terribly lucky to get one of those....I'm surfing France and England for one and none...
Also, do you think the frame will last a bit and what kind of warranty is Decathlon offering on the frame...?? Best of luck!!
Is that CaneCreek coil touching the eBike?
Love the video and the bike, but I couldn't help but notice there isn't alot of clearance between the coil shock and the fame.... Under big impacts is this gonna flex and cause rubbing to the frame?
Hey Dazza, actually the opposite, as soon as the bike is loaded the spring has about 10mm clearance from the frame 👍 Been running it a month or so and it’s been fine, no sign of rubbing anywhere 👍👍
@@RobRidesEMTB cheers for clearing that up Rob as I thought it might of been the way the picture was taken.... Looks a beast of a ride now 👍
Nice one Rob, try the new Big Betty for the rear really nice tire...
Hey Sam, yeah that’s a great looking option, think I’ll try it next!
@@RobRidesEMTB yep do it but go the 2.4 the 2.6 is a big big tire
What do you think about MArzocchi bomber cr ???thanks
Have you tried the Eddy Current tyres yet?
Cant you use the shimano chain rings?
It's the best runt in the litter! Had mine the other day in limp mode 🤦 after being a naughty boy with a chip. Had to make a dyno and now back to normal. But I'm going to sell the Speedbox and just pedal harder 🤟😜🤘
Hey Rob, another cracking video 👍🏻 you could eek an few extra reach millimetres from changing the headset to a Hope with a lower top stack height or a Cane Creek Zero stack 🤔
Hey mate, yeah that’s a good suggestion. Every MM helps on this!!
@@RobRidesEMTB plus it’s another excuse to fit some more Hope goodies 🤩😂.
Kind of, but reach really isn’t so much do with saddle position and makes little difference as normally I’m standing when riding technical trails / downhill.
@@RobRidesEMTB agreed saddle position is irrelevant, the lower the top stack hight is you’ll be gaining a little extra room as the stem lowers at the same angle as the steerer tube, marginal gains but it’s surprising how much more traction / feel can be gained with subtle changes.
Haha Rob that bikes like 'Triggers Broom'
😂😂
Have you tried the WTB Verdict wet yet on any Ebikes mate??
Hey, did you need an adapter to fit the cane creek coil onto the bomber cr?
No, he didn't
Great looking bike Rob, sort the calipers out though, those spacers and washers fill me with fear lol.
Yeah I keep meaning to sort that out 😂😂
Did you like the bomber cr?
Nice coil
Nothing like a little spring in your step
the stilus as a space could accommodate a fox x2 shock?
hello, what do you think of the vttae stilus v3? (golden color) all Mountain thank you
Does the coil Touch the frame when flexed?
Hi Rob can you please summarize the total cost of upgrade to this level including the price of aftermarket handlebars to give us rough idea ,
Thank you .
Hi.Rob.What is the total cost of this bike like it stands in this video?I think one could get a complete bike with all the upgrades you made for the same price?Or am I totaly out with my guess?Regards
I'd also like to know this, be Interesting to see if it puts the cost up into the territory of a bike that comes similarly specced out of the box.
Have you test ridden the new 29" Stilus... I would be interested in you rthoughts on it and if its worth the extra money over the 27.5"
Hello, nice report. Can I know the offset of Lyrik you choose ?
I'm looking for a fat tire ebike to ride in the snow. got to have clearance for at least 4.8 tires. Looked at a Norco bigfoot vlt but you can't get one (Coronavirus). I also found out they have not incorporated the new Shimano EP8. Pretty lame! Other option I thought was the specialized turo levo comp fat bike
I have seen them but looked on there website and can't even find one. Any ideas, Rod,,,anyone. Thanks
Time to review a Push Elevensix shock Rob and maybe a DVO too.
Rob you should check out the k-5 splitter reductioner thats coming out for the new shimano motor. Its gonna be awesome
And now those very brakes are on my bike :-)
I understand the criticism of the geometry of the base bike, however, Decathlon did themselves no favours by producing just three sizes called M, L and XL when really these bikes are size S, M and L. So there is not really an XL which someone as tall as Rob needs.
The chainstay length is a matter of what the bike is being used for. I live in the alps and we often do long steep climbs and I often wish I had a chainstay as long as on this Stilus so that I can get more weight on the front wheel. Every 10mm of extra chainstay puts an extra 1kg of weight on the front wheel! I would be very surprised if I lost out very much on the descent with a longer chainstay.
Tho dropper post is amazing. I paid £99.99 when it was on offer and you get a 2 year warranty. Never had any issues and no faffing with bleeding them as it’s spring activated.
Yeah absolute bargain to be honest and just as good as the best dropper posts!
Where can we get it? Any link please? Thanks
Looks like the spring is touching the frame... or to close, didn't it?
Yes it does, I noticed it too at the bottom of the spring.
Whats that stand you're using to prop the bike up?
Cheap telescopic fishing Rod rest from ebay
@@RobRidesEMTB Haha love it! Nice..
Anybody know if or when these will be back in stock at decathlon?
Rob, great video. Would you be so kind and weight your bike?
It’s around 24.5 KG
Is this new weight MORE or LESS than the off the shelf bike weight please?
And how much extra did it cost to get this to how you like?
Thanks
Hi Rob, what are the measurements of the rear shock? The same of the original? Thanks in advance!
230x65
Thanks! So can I change the shock without modify anything else?
Yes. 👍
@RobRidesEMTB But original is 205x65! Are you sure about the 230??
I think ebikes cost us enough without changing things ...with the exception of tires ...sure if it breaks replace it with an up grade
Wow you can polish a turd!!
Lol
Joking
I wish they sold them in Oz
That seatpost is quite good mine has been getting flogged for the last year and is still good a little side to side play but I don't notice it
They're easy to modify for the amount of extention travel if U need to reduce it.
Trick bike Rob
Have you considered running a little bit longer stem
Way way way way way back
We used to run 150 mm stems on our cross-country bikes
And 90 was a short stem in the downhill scene
Maybe try 10 or 15 mm longer
Just don't have it rising up
It will slow your steering down a little bit too
Wish I had bought one when I had the chance
You should partner up with on-one to design them a frame
Regarding the geo; perhaps Decathlon have got it right and everyone else has got it wrong. Someone has to be first. Maybe in 3 years all mtbs will have frames with this geometry! I thought what a load of BS when manufacturers started bringing out 29ers and now they're probably the standard wheel size.
At 8:02 it looks like the spring is touching the seat tube. If that's really the case that's very bad.
It looks like it is but it’s a fraction away. I triple checked the clearance. And when the bike is loaded with rider weight there’s plenty of clearance 👍
So what did you spend on it?
Roughly worked out if its retail prices nearly 3 grand..plus cost of the bike originally
bonjour, je ne parle pas très bien l'anglais mais je voudrais bien avoir un avis car je vous trouve très professionnel, c'est concernant la taille de mon vélo, je mesure 1.82 et j'ai acheté un cube stéréo 140 race 2021 de taille xl et je voudrais savoir quoi faire pour avoir un meilleur control, on m'a conseillé de changé la potence mais en quel taille???.
merci pour votre réponse
Salut une potence en 35mm devrait être mieux
I'd like that magic mary in 29er 2.6 but can't find it anywhere
Seems so much is sold out :-(
Order from Holland or Germany will be here in a few days. Thats what I did. UK stockers seem a little pathetic still behind the demand
@@phantombigballs8165 you got a link?
@@philwebb606 hollandbikeshop.com/en-gb/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=Magic+mary+2.6
@@phantombigballs8165 some amount of options
Loving this bike, how do I find out when it will be available again please rob?
Give yr fork an upgrade of Smashpot and the world changes even with Boris and Donald still there :)
I bought an ebike with even worse geometry and upgraded it until it became a modern enduro downhill machine. Head tube Angle from 68 to 63.5 degrees (or 65 with 27,5 wheels) . 180mm travel upfront, mud tires. And I am a sender and it works great. Need a new shock but other than that, my bike rides really well
When you selling it😉
The cheap coil for 329 pounds only?
It is monthly salary for 50 % people in Europe . The world is crazy.
50% earn 329 a month... not sure where you get that statistics from
@@phantombigballs8165 eastern and southern Europe I know you live in better world but all these countries are EU.members...
And do you know that I.e Germans average work 9 months to buy VW golf and people living 500 km to the east 29 months?
Such situation creates emigration problem.
Sell me that bike Rob !
Rob, you know I love you man but (unless you’ve got more money than sense) please explain to us mere mortals the logic of buying a inexpensive full suss e-MTB only to pour a truckload of money (of HOPE goodies) into upgrading it? Yes your entire built still came under £5k but unlike the rest of us poor working slobs, you’re in a pretty unique position. The real question that has to be asked (And remains unanswered) is can the common man do a similar upgrade on the same bike but ON A BUDGET?
I’m gonna do a video to answer that precise question based on the experience I’ve had upgrading my 2018 Giant Fathom E+3 29er HT (£1800). Watch this space!
@Brendan Tovey I hear you loud and clear but Decathlon wasn’t marketing this bike to the hardcore and experienced e-mtber. The price point of this bike was squarely aimed at those e-MTB virgins getting into the sport for the first time and those on a budget that could just about stretch to this full suss. I brought my entry level HT because it was a exercise in risk management. If it all went wrong, I could afford to take a hit on £1800 as opposed to £3K and even after 18 months of peddling, I’ve still spent less than £1k on upgrades. I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. The TWO biggest things that you can’t readily change on a e-MTB without sending you to the poor house are the battery and the motor. My bike was shipped with a 400wh battery, which IMHO is only good for committing duties to and from work. It was a decision I have lived to regret.
@Brendan Tovey would YOU buy (£3000) a used e-MTB full suss with no warranty on either the motor or battery? Ummmm!
@Brendan Tovey Well that’s where my late wife and I started ( in a small two bedroomed flat), so your analogy is smack on the money. Alas until the market for 2nd hand e-mtb’s stabilizes and comes with some kind of warranty and peace of mind for the buyer, I won’t be dipping my little piggy into that shark infested pond anytime soon. Irrespective whether you’re a newbie or an experienced rider, money is still the same and so it the pain when you’ve been given third degree burns.
Hello, nice report. Can I know the offset of Lyrik you choose ?