Act in Black DTNVS Overview
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- čas přidán 4. 09. 2024
- My thoughts after my Testing and Evaluation process and overall thoughts on the DTNVS. Spoiler alert, I love it.
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As always, great Video Mocha, and it was great they listened to us and incorporated our findings and constructive criticism into the design.
Thanks bro, made the t&e process more enjoyable knowing they were going to incorporate the changes.
Got my dtnvs from tnvc and saw the red in the battery compartment. Thanks for aesthetic!
Just received mine, and I can't get over the "red" easter egg! Great work on these btw!
Had the chance to visit their office, very cool guys.
Mine arrive tomorrow :) I will look for the red in the battery compartment!
I almost bought a set of GSCI PVS-31C-MOD NVG recently. However, I found a Black Friday sale on the DTNVS and then came across your overview video which changed my mind. The lightweight modular design of the DTNVS is what I find so appealing. The extra little bells and whistles on the 31 might be nice to have, such as manual gain control, but it adds weight and potential points of failure. I think it's time to finally pull the trigger and order the DTNVS.
I've had my dtnvs + poortonis tubes for about a month. Just checked inside the battery cap, does have a red interior. Kudos
Ordering mine Friday. Wish I didn’t have to wait for half a year but that’s how it goes.
Great vid Mocha! Keep them coming man. I'm relatively new to NVGs but, you and Sam have really made it easy to make the right decisions on what to buy.
I just picked one up, waiting for it to arrive & watching vids of the pro's & con's. WP, Blemish free ELBIT tubes (Yeah not L3 unfiled but I'm happy from the demo pics) I'm moving up from pvs23's so the light weight will definitely be appreciated! I will miss the Adams industries rugged battery packs but will look into that option you mentioned. I passed on the IPS, doubt I need it.
The bridge on these just seems much sturdier than the PVS-31. I used one for a year and a half, and it didn't break, but idk just doesn't look solid solid.
Between Sam & you. Made me want to purchase it when I first seen the reviews. I'll finally be able to purchase next month!
Glad to hear it! Welcome
@@KineticConsulting thank you for the reviews and insight. I just need to look up what else I need, I have a helmet ops core sx. I'll be getting a sf after I get the nvgs next month
@@damien460 you'll need a mount for sure. Wilcox G24 is the standard.
@@damien460 Just some input from another person who just got into NV. I Just purchased DTNVS too. Helmet mounted light options really came in handy during my first NV classes in Alaska. I went with Kiki 3 and a Princeton Red Map light that mounts to my Ops core.
Glad this popped up. Was just looking Friday to see if you had a review yet!
Getting mine tomorrow. Beyond stoked
Just recently ordered my DTNVS with L3 unfilmed tubes. Waits suck when you’re excited
Where from?
Operator 104 Steele Industries
@@lukeflaugher5334 sick, that’s where I’m ordering from this week
Check out tnvc
@@SuperP37 I have
Thank you!!! Have been waiting and waiting for videos on the dtnvs!!
Yes I think I will buy a DICC for my NVGs when I get them
I always love your Tarantino esque intros.
DTNVS or Kidney? hmmm...hard choice
DTNVS for sure. Only need One Kidney.
Great info review on the DTNVS. Your channel is top tier. Blows my mind on the subscriber level. So many people missing out on your reviews. Jon, not sure I will be making the DTNVS step but looking hard at the PVS-14 L3 Harris unfilmed WP. It will put me in the NV game. So, do I pull the trigger on the mono or wait for the Binos. Q: If I start with one PVS-14 and pick up another down the road, will there be that much of a difference in the intensifer tubes ?
Very possible that there will be a difference. You can try to match specs but there still may be a difference from MFG date.
I just got mine today and when I was putting the battery in, I noticed that the compartment was red inside and was like.. huh, that's funny. Then I pop this video on tonight and find out.. It was YOU!! lol
Cant wait till mine come!
The asymmetric IP stops are awesome. Huge plus.
I have a set of un-filmed WP being built by TNVC. Only 19 more weeks. Lol
16 weeks for me, you'll get it before 20
got mine from NightVisionINC and got them fast asf. Also have more options on the DTNVS
can you make an comparison between these & PVS-31? thanks for the video bro, been very helpful and informative!
I have a video talking about 31s.
More stronger. More better. I’m sold.
Wow man. Those are so slick and minimal. Love the new design. Thanks for sharing, brother. I might have to fork out the 10k for these puppies
DTNVS's are available for $7G's, & DTNVG's for $6G's.
@@paraglidingnut26 lol where at? I’m looking now and it’s 11.4K
@@CensoredNotSilent Night Goggles, Inc, the sister company to TNVC.
Email, request to be on the waiting list. I got my pair.
The key difference in tubes tho….elbit versus some Gucci l3.
Nice! Makes the wait for my set from TNVC that much more unbearable! 🤪
I like these and the NVD BNVD SG and UL.
It looks like the newer housings come with different lock rings as well. They definitely look cooler.
They put the lanyard anchor points in the wrong place. They should have been on the outside of the housing that holds the tube. Point being if you snap a pod off that dainty hinge point you are going to be out a housing and additionally, most likely a Intensifier Tube when it hits the ground and shatters like an egg. NVD BNVD iterations all have their lanyard anchor points in the correct place.
On fixed bridge sure but if you look at 15s and 31s all lanyard points are on the body.
You make an interesting point, but with a tension-type system (i.e. shock cord), having the anchor point on the tube itself would be a problem for the articulation. That said, having an anchor point from the tube to the bridge and then the bridge to the helmet would be an interesting concept.
@@henryliu1046 Yeah, when Uncle Sugar is paying the bill for damaged equipment, who cares. When you paying the bills, much different. L3 knows how to milk Uncle Sugar. Night Vision Devices BNVD's have the lanyard points in the correct place. Much better goggle than the 31's for a whole lot of reasons.
@@OFFICIALUND Use Wilcox lanyards. They are expensive but the correct lanyards for cord size and tension. They do not interfere at all with articulation on lanyard points on the tube at all. Bungees and shock cords are just get bys instead of rigging up correctly.
@@wherenowhow6037 the nerd or shock cord are infinitely better than a Wilcox lanyard lol.
Great video. Finally saved up for a set.
I’m so jealous of these, you could even say I’m “D-T-ENVIOUS”. Get it? Because DTNVS..
I know, I know. Really bad joke. I’ll see myself out.
I appreciated the humor. Then again, my favorite joke in the whole world is in the month of May, when High School and College Seniors are finishing their coursework, is to say , "Congraduations!", so you may want to discount my sense of humor somewhat :)
I chuckled
Some of the best jokes are the worse jokes lol
The video that the people want.
Im probably 3 years too late cause i just came across this video....but where do i pick up one of those shirts? (If its even available anymore)
They aren't available anymore. I have a different one on my website now. Kinetic-consulting.net/products
thanks for the review
04:27 When pressed further, however, Jon did admit that he is a material girl. His secret stash of Madonna CDs confirms this.
Can you say something about the DEP Ether eyepieces? Did you had some experiences with them? Is it worth the extra mile to go for it?
I don’t believe he commented on that because he switched his own set up and just put it in the new housing they sent him.
Great video. Than you. I just ordered these and was wondering is an external battery pack can plug into them?
How do these compare to the L3Harris BNVD (AN/PVS-31A) ?
What's your opinion on AGM Global's BNVG-40 binos?
Thank you for the in depth review. Are these light enough that I can ditch the counterweight on my helmet? Currently waiting for mine to get here that are replacing my dual 14s, which obviously required a lot of counterweight.
That will be dependent on your helmet, head and setup. You'll have to see when you get it
@@KineticConsulting I’ve got a bump and ballistic. Was more or less hoping you’d let me know how your experience worked out since you also went from two 14’s to act in black housings. Like you said, I’ll figure it out when I get them. Thanks anyway.
What battery pack do you use with your DTNVS?
Muito bom!
Where is the nitrogen purge screw? Is it the same thread as PVS14 purge screw?
in the dovetail, not the same.
Got my NERD today 🔥🔥
Woot woot!
Do you know if they accept rechargeable type batteries? I'm assuming no.
If you have the DTNVG platform already, is it worth the saving to upgrade to the DTNVS housing?
I think it's a worthwhile upgrade, but depends on you and your finances
Did you not recommend a port for a battery pack?
If you want it. I don't personally need one so I don't prioritize it.
@@KineticConsultingdoes Act in Black make their own battery pack adapter or is the only option the executive training group one?
Where may I get that awesome helmet!?
It's a team Wendy SL.
@@KineticConsulting
Thank you for that Info. Great review BTW.
I ordered the DTNVS from optics planet the other day. Back ordered until September 6th.
They are offering a replacement Armasight PVS-31 elite gen 3 for 13k.
One downside maybe is of these is sending out for repair and waiting long time for repair if need be.
Have you done any reviews on these?
Thank you,
@@scott98174 I haven't but did a dtnvs vs Pvs 31 video
Do the DTNVS's have a manual gain?
Also, if these are based off of PVS-14's, are the PVS-31's based off of PVS-14's as well?
Obviously I'm a bit confused.
following for a response
@@odinisgod4577 From what I understand so far, the DTNVS is only auto gain. But the BNVD has manual gain.
Not sure about the PVS-31 being based off of PSV-14, but I think they are.
Hopefully someone that knows for sure responds.
@@odinisgod4577 OK so fyi, apparently BNVD-1531s and PVS-31s have proprietary lenses and tubes. They are NOT based off of PVS-14s. Hope this helps.
@@thesickening0169 ok so yeah it actually does help because its going to help in my decision making based off my astigmatism I currently have 2 pvs14s one mine ones my wife and she refuses to let me pano bridge them lol
@@odinisgod4577 Haha, she likes it that much that she won't give it up! Lolol, nice!
Good point on the astigmatism. I have it too, and didn't think to take that into consideration.
No manual gain. Have to buy IPD stops extra for hundreds of dollars that cost a few bucks to make and should be included. They just look cool and have all the influencers talking good for the free shit. So many better NVG models out that are better pricing as well.
Cool man. Don't buy them then.
@@KineticConsulting I don’t think it’s bad for his 2 cents.
For people like me who aren’t given NVG’s and have to spend there own money. It’s nice to hear why people do and don’t like them. Helps me
are these the same at the steele industries ones? i just bought those from opticsplanet and they look the exact same
I'm 99.99% sure they are. Steele sells them as individually and as the "night fighter package" with mount and helmet.. I'm looking at the same kit
@@contentcop yes, after talking to steele, they get the base from actinblack directly and then just assemble it with the tubes from l3 or elbit and optics planet is a dealer. they are great.
@@maximusjoseppi5904 perfect because I'm selling my evo in like 3 weeks and I'm instantly dropping like 12k on nvg shir
@@maximusjoseppi5904 wait, does this mean they use different tubes that act?
@@contentcop every night vision company uses the exact same tubes. they are all either made from l3 or elbit and every company gets their tubes from them and assembles the rest of the optic.. at least the legit ones.
ya when you include the helmet, mounts, IR, etc im at about 17k. not a cheap game to get into but if you try to get into it cheap, it will end up costing more haha
How hard was it to switch the tubes and stuff onto this housing? Seems expensive and def something you'd wanna send off to have done.
I send them out. Above my knowledge level.
what type of image intesifiers does it use?
I am looking at purchasing a pair of these... I legit have 0 nvg experience, I have 12k to spend total, is this a set I should keep looking into or is there a better option for my budget?
Just about all modern houses are up to snuff. They are all good and will protect your tubes from shock and water ingress. It usually just comes down to what features you want. Onboard power, off-board power, both, glass type, etc. Take a look at LLUL-21s (offboard power), DTNVS (onboard power), Argus 1431s or nocturn industries Katanas (both) for some examples.
@@Pook162 I was looking for tubes as well, I ended up ordering a L3 AN/PVS-31A. Still has not arrived but looking forward to it. Maybe after I get some experience using them/find some things with the housing I'd like different I will go down the route of replacing it but hopefully that doesn't happen.
@@VrILLR nice! I just purchased a DTNVS housing to replace my LLUL-21s. Hope you like the 31a!
Any chance Act in Black will allow us gen 1 users trade in credit and upgrade to this lightweight option?
No clue man
@@KineticConsulting no worries I just saw that in the near future TNVC will be selling just the Gen2 body so ... 🤞
Why do you have the ring for an eyecup/de-mist shield on one eyepiece but not the other?
Its for a small camera I have that uses it to attach to the nvg.
@@KineticConsulting aaaah makes sense thank you
Which image intensifiers do you recommend in terms of white phosphor?
I like and use L3. I own L3, elbit and photonis and choose L3 for everything
L3 is the best but for me being european photonis is available
could you recommend a great NV monocular?
Pvs14 with L3 filmless WP Tubes
so its like pvs 15 and pvs 31 had kid
So, If I have dual PVS 14s, can I send them off to TNVC to have my tubes installed in the DTNVS?
I think they said they would do this later but right now all TNV DTNVS housings are beholden to their respective tubes. You could maybe buy the housing elsewhere (weapon outfitters just got some) and then call TNVC and ask if they’ll install them for you.
Damn it I want one.
Oh snap!!!
Who is John Galt?
Have you any thoughts about ball detent units?
Nice
Auto gain?
Please ask in a full sentence. I have no clue what you want to know about auto gain
Thanks to u i got it red haha
What's the adapter for attaching a battery pack?
DICC
What he said. It's called a DICC
Thanks Both of you
Too poor for nods...send help pls
@7:36 fellow based LWRC enjoyers I see
Looked these up 9-10k wtf
Night vision isn’t cheap
Gotta pay to play with NV
Pretty typical pricing for a complete bino from a retailer that has brand new matched tubes, spec sheets, warranty, etc. Good night vision ain’t cheap, and cheap night vision ain’t good.
Sexy as fuq
Damn you’re rich.
Not even a little bit, just a hard worker
@@KineticConsulting I’m a hard worker as well lol. Guess having a non working wife and two daughters in college isn’t helping me though.
Bnvd 1431’s. 60% less cost. Get it together American night vision industry. Why are we buying housing outside our own
ActinBlack is based out of Luxembourg.
1431's are cheap injection molded chinese housing that shuts off when you look down and is not waterproof or ruggedized......youre comparing a model T to a Ferrari Super Car.
They also are notorious for getting fogged up from moisture build-up inside the housing since they can’t be purged properly. They’re essentially a $40 Airsoft replica PVS-31A that will accept PVS-14 optics, tubes, and a power source.
@@atacorion Sorry Sam. But I don’t have those experiences with the product. My point, and you could be a great influencer, is that we need an American made alternative to the both of them. The only American bino manufacturer(NVD) won’t sell a diy to the public. Appreciate ya bra.
@@disconnect64 my point exactly
Lost all respect when I saw the NOD’s being worn, in daytime, with no lense covers. I’m not going to even go into how dumb it is to wear NOD’s, in daytime, on a boat.
The film in the tube is 10,000x more thin than a human hair. So yah, let’s just expose it to UV rays... care of equipment man...
Lmfao, cool man.
FYI, if the unit is off there is no danger to the image intensifiers. Also, the "tube" on the inside of the unit and isn't affected by riding on a boat. The film is on the tube not the lens assemblies.
Mike you’ve got quite a few of your facts incorrect sir. I would recommend a NV class in your near future to clarify some things for you and so you can get the most out of your NV.....if you’re a boater or something.
@@KineticConsulting I'd like to thank you for being the bigger man here. I may have been drinking at the time. No hash feelings and thanks for the content
@@nyag1337 bro that happens to me all the time. 6 beers in and i start. I wake up to shame. :(