Everything Hank said here, was true. Unfiltered, unkind, but true. Ask every oppressed people in history if begging for their oppressors' mercy ever worked for them! It's awful to realize, but justice only ever comes about when the aggressor is made to stop pressing their victims' faces into the dirt. When someone, either the victim or a third party, forces the abuser to STOP. And that only comes when they gain the power to challenge said abuser. To make life so difficult for them should they continue, that their only real choice is to stop. States, empires, abusers... they only understand the language of force. It's not necessary to become them in order to stop them, but it is necessary to tell them in no uncertain terms, that they won't like what happens next if they don't stop.
Yes yes yes. Once more but louder for the folks in the back: "States, empires, abusers... only understand the language of force. ... It is necessary to tell them in no uncertain terms."
Okay but humanity has a reason to not trust or even want mutants around to compare a fucking black person to a person who has the ability to destroy an entire city block with ease is a ridiculous comparison that falls a apart quick when you actually throw reality at it.
Or they’ll just hit even harder. Then what? The Cold War would have ended in nuclear Armageddon had people all thought like that. We wouldn’t be around to argue.
@@Ares99999comparing the cold war to marginalized groups is a bit off the mark. The USA and USSR were superpowers in a global conflict that engulfed many nations, countries and people. It wasn't about an oppressed group or rights, it was about power and the many lives lost to silently each build theirs. The mutants and the commentary about begging for tolerance is about inequality, a disparity of power in a single society (a bit of a weird metaphor with superpowers but handwave that away for a moment). Beast is talking about the dominant group continuing to refuse to see the marginalized group as people and will only treat them with a fraction of humanity as long as they always are 'civil' and don't disturb their comfortable status quo. But the status quo is the problem, and there are times where civility needs to be cast aside for passionate action. When you are in the dominant group it is easy to call for peaceful protests that don't disrupt your life, but when your people are dieing in the streets, bowing your heads waiting for those comfortable people to decide to risk their comfort by changing the status quo for the sake of the other, quietly enduring it only means more deaths of your people. The stronger the divide and disparity in rights, the greater the action required to change things
OK, Now there’s going to be a REAL problem when Beast REALLY gets over the edge after seeing this horrible tragedy. Nothing good ever comes from tragedy, except pain, fear, sadness, and rage!
"Beware a wise man who begins to shout" or something like that. I remember an episode where Beast had been forced into a genetic upgrade of some kind. He hulked out and defeated the forces of someone who was trying to resurrect Apocalypse.
I mean, he’s got emotions. They’re standing on ground zero of the attack not long after where he lost close friends and so many innocents. And the conversation turns to the humans being willing to accept them.
Exactly Trying to frame it in a way that still makes mutants the "scary" ones that need to be the bigger party and tiptoe around the poor, frightened "normal" people is just disgustingly tone deaf on her part. She's right, in that breaking windows and riots are "destruction, not communication". She just completely missed the part where mutants have resorted to that because they've been trying communication the entire time. That "destruction" is people speaking in a language you can't ignore.
Yep, its pretty hypocritical to say "Oh we're scared because mutants are getting violent and threatening us" when the mutants of Genosha weren't even given the courtesy of a threat, they just got the violence. Communication is a two way street: it only works if both sides are willing to listen to what the other has to say.
@@potaterjim To be fair, mutants are scary. They threaten the existence of humans. She's not tone deaf, she's telling it like it is. This isn't like say, different ethnicities of humans where we are all equals. Beast tried to make it about himself instead of recognizing he's a threat to humanity.
@@jmhorange I feel like that point falls flat when humans are aggressing on the mutants without provocation. You shouldn't be surprised If you stab a sleeping elephant and then get trampled by it.
Beast and Trish were a major couple in the 90s comics, but this storyline they're adapting is where they broke up, Beast even tried to say he was gay afterwards to make her feel awkward.
@@cheapfinish6224not to make her feel awkward, but to help her feel better. Like it wasn’t her, it was him. But the real reason was because he didn’t think they could make it as an interracial (human and mutant) couple.
@@EmptyMan000 Because what is most terrifying and destructive? The wrath of an angry hateful man or the wrath of a gentle man? Anger can easily be controlled or guided being easy to manipulate, someone who's gentle you would never see it coming until your on the ground begging for your life. Hell has a very good reason to be afraid of gentle men.
That’s not the point and you damn well know that. She even followed up that comment by pointing out (correctly) what would follow. A bunch of emotionally unstable people with immense power running around causing destruction and pain? That will not help human-mutant relations at all.
@@SamaritanPrime MLK jr would mock you, they even gave the real qauote above here. You only know a white washed history of our civil rights movement. If you think any of that is real, may malcolm x meet you in heavan and show you the way downstairs.
@@SamaritanPrime Is there any reason why mutants wouldn't be safer if Xavier and Jean Grey just took control of the minds of the US president, Congress and SCOTUS?
@@SamaritanPrime Then what will? I find it rather interesting how often the people that AREN'T being discriminated against or oppressed respond to complaints that escalate after the oppression escalates with "stop acting out!". You can't appeal to the higher sense of morality of oppressors.
@@joaolucasfraga9147 I’m not. Not everyone is an oppressor. Not everyone is oppressed. There are a LOT of people in between. The average person is not going to be thinking positively of mutants that riot and destroy their cities, even if it’s in response to a genocidal attack. What the average person sees is their home getting destroyed for something they weren’t involved in at all. The attack on Genosha will set back the path to coexistence between humanity and mutants for that reason. Grief at one’s homeland being destroyed does not justify turning around and destroying someone else’s.
This goes to show that even the nicest of characters like Beast, who are known for their kindness and good nature, can harbour a dark side when they're pushed too far.
1:30 Trish may have made Cyclops lash out on national tv with her questions in an interview but she do stand with mutants and wanted to show the world that they're people.
It was a bad faith interview where it's Cyclops trying.to justify mutants humanity where there shouldn't have to be justification and she knew it. It was an ambush, especially with the pregnancy question that she knew would hurt him.
“He did not simply learn tolerance, that is insufficient. But acceptance, and empathy.”-Miss Martian’s father explaining how Martian Manhunter went from indifference to Mar’s white martians to standing up for them.
I don't think that Hank will ever lose his ideals but I think everyone has a point where they sort of just had enough and need to step away before they get back on that saddle again.
The Beast is interesting, man ,he always says something to make you think, love it. The writers ,excellent people, good team, and directors create a great show. I hope they are doing well. Today is a 3:29 normal expression to say, " I don't care what you think " is fine... but care what you see. Thanks this channel, doing reviews on X Men.
Smashing windows is communication. Its communicating rage, sorrow, frustration. Nobody would hear them so now theyre taking the only course left. Forcing people to feel even a fraction of their suffering.
How exactly is damaging someone's property okay if it's sending a message? I read stories from shop owners, who immigrated from Syria to the US to escape the war. Had their restaurants, their source of income and their hope of building a better future, destroyed during the George Floyd riots. Those riots caused over 1 billion in property damage and caused dozens of deaths. Including children who burned to death in fires because rescue crews couldn't reach them in time because rioters blocked the street. By your logic, does that mean Palestinians living in the US can smash up windows in Jewish owned businesses to protest the genocide against them that's happening right now? Are you saying that the Israelis that were r*ped, butchered and kidnapped on Oct 7th was justified because of what the Palestinians have had to suffer from during the 70 years of oppression from Zionists?
@TimberlakeTigerGirl ok. 1. What the fuck do you mean kids burned to death? I actually searched because that was a wild ass thing to say and couldn't find a single article. 2. Those protests were overwhelmingly peaceful. 96-97 percent in fact. 3. I never said the destruction was good. I said it is a predictable and understandable outcome over being murdered by the keepers of the police for years without any consequence. Of course people are going to smash shit up. Everything else they've done has failed. Fuck off.
To be fair, the OG Beast in the comics is dead and replaced by a Clone (who is well aware of the horrible shit that he has done.) and is more in line with this version of Beast. I agree with you though. Hopefully Xaiver and Beast don't get done dirty.
@@WinterFox1000 dark beast came from the age of apocalypse timeline, a Hank McCoy who never got to meet Charles Xavier and was conditioned by apocalypse and sinister into a monster
To introduce Dark Beast, you'd have to introduce to the Age of Apocalypse storyline to explain where he came from. The show is ambitious but throwing that in there might be a bit much.
Oh no no no, are you telling me the Dark Beast, the evil Beast will start to manifest? True, this is horrible and emotionally gutting, but it was harder to see Beast evolve into such a hateful Character
A bit off-topic, but are the Savage Land Mutates considered mutants in X-Men, or at least artificial mutants? Still, kind of Barbarus, Brainchild, Lupo, and Amphibius to help the other Genoshans, even helping an injured Vertigo to the tents despite her leaving them for Sinister's Nasty Boys. Edit: I briefly forgot Mimic was not a mutant himself, either, yet he's there too. Maybe they're all honorary mutants given their history is tied to the X-Men and Magneto?
Beast has gone through some shit but this was a push that sent him too far and no one has been able to push beast since Logan did in X-men days of future past movie
While I understand Beast’s perspective, I do think Trish is correct, though a bit tone-deaf. It is more than understandable for mutants to want to riot, but rioting won’t help the mutants. oppressors will only see mutants lashing out and crack down harder on them, and innocent humans will be affected even though they did nothing. It will only perpetuate a cycle of violence and destruction that would make the whole world like Genosha. Even MLK, a man that Beast himself quoted, succeeded in his fight for equal rights (ofc we still have places to improve), while being non-violent as possible, as violence only brings about more fear and hate, which is not good for either side. I just hope that Beast eventually understands this too. It’s not fair for mutants to try and be peaceful while being oppressed, but not doing so will hurt everyone. And, of course, Trish should be less tone-deaf, though her reporting on this attack will help many humans understand the mutants riots and sympathize with them and hopefully lead to deescalation efforts.
This may be a tangent, but The Savage Land mutates should have never been allowed on Genosha. They were fanatics who blindly followed Mr. Sinister into a mutant eugenics race and chose violance and rage over peaceful cohabitation with humans back home. If I had been Magneto, I'd have had them incarcarated and put into community service for a full year. Or flat out refused to let them in the country. Pot telling the kettle that it's black, I know. But that's really the issue in this video. You never know to what extent you can trust people.
Everyone seems quick to think Hank is walking down a path to evil after saying that. What was evil about what he said? He's right. Begging the perpetrators of systemic injustice and brutality for "tolerance" is not a path to safety for the vulnerable. Hank's perspective is maturing with experience and I'm here for it.
@@liminaut-ek5iw comics Hank did the "Get Out" run down that path, so it's not exactly a stretch to think that he'll do something a bit more morally questionable than usual. Even Mr. Sinister was like DAAAAYYUM ("You're not even the darkest beast anymore" - TO THE ACTUAL DARK BEAST)
@@Ares99999 When is war just? When is war unjust? Keep in mind, what we're debating is the morality of an oppressed minority to use violence defensively against an active genocide. I thought it was common for people to believe that force is justified in self-defense, but when do you believe force is justified? In this particular case, mutants have incredible powers. Why do you think "nobody will win?" Also keep in mind, mutants would not be fighting for the extermination of human beings, but only to protect their own right to live. They only need to fight enough to draw and defend a boundary on a map. They only need to fight enough so that the cost of war against them is great enough. It's funny because we're talking about a cartoon show but this is actually an extremely relevant discussion in the real world.
She did. Go back to the episode where the massacre happened. Trish was interviewing the X-Men that same day. Right as it was about to happen was when Jean got a huge Psychic spike to the head
"But smashing windows is destruction not communication. Normal people won't accept mutants if they feel threatened. That fear's the whole issue." 1) Oh really now; and OZT was just a strongly worded speech and delivery of pamphlets from the rest of the world was it? Are you really going to stand in the middle of ground zero and try to lecture the man about how rioting mutants won't help?! 2) The people on Genosha were giving those "afraid" people exactly what they wanted, less mutants around them. All these so called normal people needed to do was leave them alone. And 3) Lady... shut the hell up. No shit the fear's the whole issue; but you say that like the X-Men and mutants in general haven't been trying already! Look at how some choose to respond to those efforts! I really can't stand this plotline in X-Men: folks fear/hate mutants, mutants say "Cool, we out." and go make their own land and offer other mutants citizenship there, someone says to themselves "how dare those mutants just up and leave without our say so?" or some other moronic BS the writer of the moment comes up with, they press the "status quo is God" button and the whole land goes tits up in a heartbeat! Avalon/Asteroid M, Genosha, whatever they called Asteroid M when they turned it into an island (Haven I think?), and most recently with Krakoa! Every time mutants try to go and leave normals in peace, if not a mutual ceasefire or non-aggression pact kind of situation; something has to come and fuck it all up, setting everything back to square 1. I know that the comic ends without the central conflict; but I'm freaking sick of this!
"And begging for your tolerance was our first mistake" As a minority (native) the narrative, and POV will always find its way close to home with me. Sad cause their will be an extinction of us one day and be no ndns.
There's a healthy middle between Xavier and Magneto. I believe Cyclops and the X-Men will eventually find it. Reminds me of the Rick Grimes arc. He tries the dictator route, and the pacifist route, then finds a healthy in-between that balances being tough with being a good person
@@LARRYLONGSTRETH To form a country one can not be to soft or to forceful, politics is a game not many have the stomach to handle. Redeemed Mangeto handle it almost perfectly, if it was not for the attack he could easily made alliances and made a more secure country. Like wise if he was alive he force the UN to act, stating if it was not a country it was a terrorist attack and if they attack them it can easily attack other weaker countries. Leading to nations to form a more secure task force built on hunting the Terrorists down, not because they feel bad, but if this can happen to a people who has almost pure super powers, what happen to america, australia, the EU, China, Russia? Are they really going be open to civilians being butchered by robots in their lands?
"oh no, the 'normal' people feel threatened? We'll try to scream a little quieter during the beatings."
" I dare not waste anymore of your tolerance...." coldest line ever. This show rocks. Good job disney. Finally
You know humanity REALLY messed up when even Beast, second only to Xavier in terms of begging for human love, is done with the pick me dance
After all these years, George Buza still sounds great as Beast. He absolutely nailed the raw emotion in this scene.
Quoting Mr. Rogers and MLK, it's easy to love Hank. The pain and confusion is all to familiar here. The series is so good.
Brilliant writing indeed.
Too bad, the comic Hank was…questionable.
Even his moral ambiguity idea fall flat with his idiotic shenanigans (mostly the time travel part).
0:15 & 1:34
@@powerist209 I pretend Hank never became evil. I lie to myself that he never became evil.
Beast saying " Death of the dream" just chills me
Everything Hank said here, was true. Unfiltered, unkind, but true.
Ask every oppressed people in history if begging for their oppressors' mercy ever worked for them!
It's awful to realize, but justice only ever comes about when the aggressor is made to stop pressing their victims' faces into the dirt. When someone, either the victim or a third party, forces the abuser to STOP. And that only comes when they gain the power to challenge said abuser. To make life so difficult for them should they continue, that their only real choice is to stop.
States, empires, abusers... they only understand the language of force. It's not necessary to become them in order to stop them, but it is necessary to tell them in no uncertain terms, that they won't like what happens next if they don't stop.
Yes yes yes. Once more but louder for the folks in the back:
"States, empires, abusers... only understand the language of force. ... It is necessary to tell them in no uncertain terms."
Okay but humanity has a reason to not trust or even want mutants around to compare a fucking black person to a person who has the ability to destroy an entire city block with ease is a ridiculous comparison that falls a apart quick when you actually throw reality at it.
Or they’ll just hit even harder. Then what? The Cold War would have ended in nuclear Armageddon had people all thought like that. We wouldn’t be around to argue.
@@Ares99999comparing the cold war to marginalized groups is a bit off the mark. The USA and USSR were superpowers in a global conflict that engulfed many nations, countries and people. It wasn't about an oppressed group or rights, it was about power and the many lives lost to silently each build theirs.
The mutants and the commentary about begging for tolerance is about inequality, a disparity of power in a single society (a bit of a weird metaphor with superpowers but handwave that away for a moment).
Beast is talking about the dominant group continuing to refuse to see the marginalized group as people and will only treat them with a fraction of humanity as long as they always are 'civil' and don't disturb their comfortable status quo. But the status quo is the problem, and there are times where civility needs to be cast aside for passionate action. When you are in the dominant group it is easy to call for peaceful protests that don't disrupt your life, but when your people are dieing in the streets, bowing your heads waiting for those comfortable people to decide to risk their comfort by changing the status quo for the sake of the other, quietly enduring it only means more deaths of your people. The stronger the divide and disparity in rights, the greater the action required to change things
@@bluecanine3374 Ok, the Civil Rights Movement. Did force and violence win the day?
OK, Now there’s going to be a REAL problem when Beast REALLY gets over the edge after seeing this horrible tragedy. Nothing good ever comes from tragedy, except pain, fear, sadness, and rage!
"Beware a wise man who begins to shout" or something like that. I remember an episode where Beast had been forced into a genetic upgrade of some kind. He hulked out and defeated the forces of someone who was trying to resurrect Apocalypse.
And a Dark Beast
I mean, he’s got emotions. They’re standing on ground zero of the attack not long after where he lost close friends and so many innocents. And the conversation turns to the humans being willing to accept them.
Exactly
Trying to frame it in a way that still makes mutants the "scary" ones that need to be the bigger party and tiptoe around the poor, frightened "normal" people is just disgustingly tone deaf on her part. She's right, in that breaking windows and riots are "destruction, not communication". She just completely missed the part where mutants have resorted to that because they've been trying communication the entire time. That "destruction" is people speaking in a language you can't ignore.
Yep, its pretty hypocritical to say "Oh we're scared because mutants are getting violent and threatening us" when the mutants of Genosha weren't even given the courtesy of a threat, they just got the violence. Communication is a two way street: it only works if both sides are willing to listen to what the other has to say.
Yeah hard to be “the bigger person” when 94% of your peoples population was just vaporized
@@potaterjim To be fair, mutants are scary. They threaten the existence of humans. She's not tone deaf, she's telling it like it is. This isn't like say, different ethnicities of humans where we are all equals. Beast tried to make it about himself instead of recognizing he's a threat to humanity.
@@jmhorange I feel like that point falls flat when humans are aggressing on the mutants without provocation. You shouldn't be surprised If you stab a sleeping elephant and then get trampled by it.
I think they'll be okay. Trish really did try her best to help give mutants a voice and present them in a good light. I understand Beast's grief tho.
Beast and Trish were a major couple in the 90s comics, but this storyline they're adapting is where they broke up, Beast even tried to say he was gay afterwards to make her feel awkward.
@@cheapfinish6224not to make her feel awkward, but to help her feel better. Like it wasn’t her, it was him. But the real reason was because he didn’t think they could make it as an interracial (human and mutant) couple.
@@adaminflux Similarly, in Ultimate universe, I think Beast felt his relationship with Storm was a pipe dream due to sense of insecurity.
Wait I don’t get it. What happened with Beast and Carlie?
This aged badly.
0:20 Beast referencing Mr. Rogers, the classic tv legend.
In the real world and the marvel universe, we’re lucky to have Fred Rogers as our television neighbor
@katherinelynch4193 given how Fred Rogers was like a psychologist for kids and everything
0:32 Amelia's power to turn into mist included clothes which comes in handy.
And know she has surviors guilt having this power and couldn't help the others from the attack of that Godzilla Master Mold
Especially since, if she knows where you are, she can transport you to her.
Sorry no Susan Roman this time how voice Amelia and Calisto in 90's animated series how voice Lita Sailor Jupiter in Sailor Moon.
Her arch nemesis is a vacuum 🤣🤣🤣
@@ahmada.9953 Worse. Her enemy is rain.
Hell fears the wrath of a gentle man.
He wil become a real monster like his comic counterpart.
Then Hell is weak. What good is Hell if it fears anything?
@@EmptyMan000 Because what is most terrifying and destructive? The wrath of an angry hateful man or the wrath of a gentle man?
Anger can easily be controlled or guided being easy to manipulate, someone who's gentle you would never see it coming until your on the ground begging for your life.
Hell has a very good reason to be afraid of gentle men.
"You shouldn't smash windows."
Said in a LITERAL WARZONE BECAUSE A GUY HATES MUTANTS.
Those poor, poor windows.
That’s not the point and you damn well know that. She even followed up that comment by pointing out (correctly) what would follow. A bunch of emotionally unstable people with immense power running around causing destruction and pain? That will not help human-mutant relations at all.
@@SamaritanPrime MLK jr would mock you, they even gave the real qauote above here. You only know a white washed history of our civil rights movement. If you think any of that is real, may malcolm x meet you in heavan and show you the way downstairs.
@@SamaritanPrime Is there any reason why mutants wouldn't be safer if Xavier and Jean Grey just took control of the minds of the US president, Congress and SCOTUS?
@@SamaritanPrime Then what will? I find it rather interesting how often the people that AREN'T being discriminated against or oppressed respond to complaints that escalate after the oppression escalates with "stop acting out!".
You can't appeal to the higher sense of morality of oppressors.
@@joaolucasfraga9147 I’m not. Not everyone is an oppressor. Not everyone is oppressed. There are a LOT of people in between. The average person is not going to be thinking positively of mutants that riot and destroy their cities, even if it’s in response to a genocidal attack. What the average person sees is their home getting destroyed for something they weren’t involved in at all. The attack on Genosha will set back the path to coexistence between humanity and mutants for that reason. Grief at one’s homeland being destroyed does not justify turning around and destroying someone else’s.
Dark Beast is coming… and I love it❤ OMG Gambit I still can’t recover from that😢 he died as hero it was epic.
This goes to show that even the nicest of characters like Beast, who are known for their kindness and good nature, can harbour a dark side when they're pushed too far.
I bet those who wanted to discredite this show because they didn't like Morph orientation feel pretty silly now
1:30 Trish may have made Cyclops lash out on national tv with her questions in an interview but she do stand with mutants and wanted to show the world that they're people.
Personali I would have edited that out
She'll be the one to help get them out of the bad press.
It was a bad faith interview where it's Cyclops trying.to justify mutants humanity where there shouldn't have to be justification and she knew it. It was an ambush, especially with the pregnancy question that she knew would hurt him.
Wrong!
@@darryldavis6063 I have news for you...
These lines are so good. Watching this makes me feel the way I didn't for a long time.
Imagine if Beast breaks and sees things Magneto's way but this leads to him becoming Dark Beast in a modified version of Age of Apocalypse?
BOOM!
Dint that happened in the crackoa era AND that ended with hem beam kill en replace by clon who doesn't remember the last 2 decades of stories
the word tolerance is very condescending...
is it really?
Lets not forget that as far as 5 years ago there were mutants that attacked humans for shits and giggles, people wont forgive and forget that easy.
So which came first. The Friends of Humanity, or the Brotherhood of Mutants?
@@horrorfan117 the brotherhood of mutants was a response to the ongoing discrimination, just like the black panthers.
“He did not simply learn tolerance, that is insufficient. But acceptance, and empathy.”-Miss Martian’s father explaining how Martian Manhunter went from indifference to Mar’s white martians to standing up for them.
I don't think that Hank will ever lose his ideals but I think everyone has a point where they sort of just had enough and need to step away before they get back on that saddle again.
The Beast is interesting, man ,he always says something to make you think, love it. The writers ,excellent people, good team, and directors create a great show. I hope they are doing well. Today is a 3:29 normal expression to say, " I don't care what you think " is fine... but care what you see. Thanks this channel, doing reviews on X Men.
These poor mutants had there sanctuary destroyed and lost so many friends and somewhat family on thar island
I think of Gaza
Smashing windows is communication. Its communicating rage, sorrow, frustration. Nobody would hear them so now theyre taking the only course left. Forcing people to feel even a fraction of their suffering.
How exactly is damaging someone's property okay if it's sending a message? I read stories from shop owners, who immigrated from Syria to the US to escape the war. Had their restaurants, their source of income and their hope of building a better future, destroyed during the George Floyd riots. Those riots caused over 1 billion in property damage and caused dozens of deaths. Including children who burned to death in fires because rescue crews couldn't reach them in time because rioters blocked the street.
By your logic, does that mean Palestinians living in the US can smash up windows in Jewish owned businesses to protest the genocide against them that's happening right now? Are you saying that the Israelis that were r*ped, butchered and kidnapped on Oct 7th was justified because of what the Palestinians have had to suffer from during the 70 years of oppression from Zionists?
@TimberlakeTigerGirl ok.
1. What the fuck do you mean kids burned to death? I actually searched because that was a wild ass thing to say and couldn't find a single article.
2. Those protests were overwhelmingly peaceful. 96-97 percent in fact.
3. I never said the destruction was good. I said it is a predictable and understandable outcome over being murdered by the keepers of the police for years without any consequence. Of course people are going to smash shit up. Everything else they've done has failed.
Fuck off.
If they dare turn Hank McCoy down a dark path, make him a monster like they did in current comics, then I'm done.
To be fair, the OG Beast in the comics is dead and replaced by a Clone (who is well aware of the horrible shit that he has done.) and is more in line with this version of Beast.
I agree with you though. Hopefully Xaiver and Beast don't get done dirty.
Just as long as he doesn’t sell any homeless black women to sinister for info, we’re good.
That was Threnody btw.
I'm still hoping it's revealed to be dark beast in the comics, though that might not be the case given where they seem to be taking the story.
@@WinterFox1000 dark beast came from the age of apocalypse timeline, a Hank McCoy who never got to meet Charles Xavier and was conditioned by apocalypse and sinister into a monster
To introduce Dark Beast, you'd have to introduce to the Age of Apocalypse storyline to explain where he came from. The show is ambitious but throwing that in there might be a bit much.
This cartoon is topping every animated show rn, everytime i watch this show i actually think im watching a comic book
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Hank
It’s time to shed the mind and embrace the
BEAST !!!
1:25 Leech and Calypso R.I.P
Leech no! They killed my boy.
Oh no no no, are you telling me the Dark Beast, the evil Beast will start to manifest? True, this is horrible and emotionally gutting, but it was harder to see Beast evolve into such a hateful
Character
The mutants are treated like how black people and Jewish people were treated like in the past.
An Arab people, an Asian people and basically every minority right now.
Look for the helpers, you will always find people who are helping. The ever affable Mr. Rogers.
0:39 Who's the mutant with wings? He looks similar with Angel pre-metal wings.
That mimic the non mutant that has the ability to copy abilities
@@mangareader7474 i think he is a mutant in this continuity
What is the theme that plays at 2:06?
Beast!
A bit off-topic, but are the Savage Land Mutates considered mutants in X-Men, or at least artificial mutants? Still, kind of Barbarus, Brainchild, Lupo, and Amphibius to help the other Genoshans, even helping an injured Vertigo to the tents despite her leaving them for Sinister's Nasty Boys.
Edit: I briefly forgot Mimic was not a mutant himself, either, yet he's there too. Maybe they're all honorary mutants given their history is tied to the X-Men and Magneto?
I guess beast likes to cite his words so he won't take credit for the wise words?
Damn! I never thought I would hear hank talk like this 😔
Beast has gone through some shit but this was a push that sent him too far and no one has been able to push beast since Logan did in X-men days of future past movie
Oh Hank 😢
I can't believe they killed off Leach😥 so sad
While I understand Beast’s perspective, I do think Trish is correct, though a bit tone-deaf. It is more than understandable for mutants to want to riot, but rioting won’t help the mutants. oppressors will only see mutants lashing out and crack down harder on them, and innocent humans will be affected even though they did nothing. It will only perpetuate a cycle of violence and destruction that would make the whole world like Genosha.
Even MLK, a man that Beast himself quoted, succeeded in his fight for equal rights (ofc we still have places to improve), while being non-violent as possible, as violence only brings about more fear and hate, which is not good for either side.
I just hope that Beast eventually understands this too. It’s not fair for mutants to try and be peaceful while being oppressed, but not doing so will hurt everyone. And, of course, Trish should be less tone-deaf, though her reporting on this attack will help many humans understand the mutants riots and sympathize with them and hopefully lead to deescalation efforts.
This may be a tangent, but The Savage Land mutates should have never been allowed on Genosha. They were fanatics who blindly followed Mr. Sinister into a mutant eugenics race and chose violance and rage over peaceful cohabitation with humans back home. If I had been Magneto, I'd have had them incarcarated and put into community service for a full year. Or flat out refused to let them in the country. Pot telling the kettle that it's black, I know. But that's really the issue in this video. You never know to what extent you can trust people.
Hank is a savage
Wow I sure do hope this doesn’t lead Hank down a dark and irredeemable path that would completely destroys his character…..
Everyone seems quick to think Hank is walking down a path to evil after saying that. What was evil about what he said? He's right. Begging the perpetrators of systemic injustice and brutality for "tolerance" is not a path to safety for the vulnerable. Hank's perspective is maturing with experience and I'm here for it.
@@liminaut-ek5iwOk. Give me a solution. One that doesn’t lead to a war nobody will win.
@@liminaut-ek5iw comics Hank did the "Get Out" run down that path, so it's not exactly a stretch to think that he'll do something a bit more morally questionable than usual.
Even Mr. Sinister was like DAAAAYYUM ("You're not even the darkest beast anymore" - TO THE ACTUAL DARK BEAST)
@@Ares99999 When is war just? When is war unjust? Keep in mind, what we're debating is the morality of an oppressed minority to use violence defensively against an active genocide. I thought it was common for people to believe that force is justified in self-defense, but when do you believe force is justified?
In this particular case, mutants have incredible powers. Why do you think "nobody will win?" Also keep in mind, mutants would not be fighting for the extermination of human beings, but only to protect their own right to live. They only need to fight enough to draw and defend a boundary on a map. They only need to fight enough so that the cost of war against them is great enough.
It's funny because we're talking about a cartoon show but this is actually an extremely relevant discussion in the real world.
A Love Lost? / Even Beast has his Limits
Please don't let the cartoon turn Beast into his Bendis era self from the comics
Is dazzler multiple man and angel dead? They were all at the party
Multiple man is also seen helping with the relief effort so it may have been one of his clones
God, I hope not. We've had too much of THAT Beast in the comics.
Jean should have sensed the tragedy. The psychic screaming. They wouldn't get there in time, but they could've come.
She did. Go back to the episode where the massacre happened. Trish was interviewing the X-Men that same day. Right as it was about to happen was when Jean got a huge Psychic spike to the head
What happened to Carly? I liked her and Hank together.
Learn how to walk away from bs
People hate me for that.
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Even Beast can get upset.
He knew some of the mutants before they were killed and not he did lost two people he loved as a family
"But smashing windows is destruction not communication. Normal people won't accept mutants if they feel threatened. That fear's the whole issue."
1) Oh really now; and OZT was just a strongly worded speech and delivery of pamphlets from the rest of the world was it? Are you really going to stand in the middle of ground zero and try to lecture the man about how rioting mutants won't help?! 2) The people on Genosha were giving those "afraid" people exactly what they wanted, less mutants around them. All these so called normal people needed to do was leave them alone. And 3) Lady... shut the hell up. No shit the fear's the whole issue; but you say that like the X-Men and mutants in general haven't been trying already! Look at how some choose to respond to those efforts!
I really can't stand this plotline in X-Men: folks fear/hate mutants, mutants say "Cool, we out." and go make their own land and offer other mutants citizenship there, someone says to themselves "how dare those mutants just up and leave without our say so?" or some other moronic BS the writer of the moment comes up with, they press the "status quo is God" button and the whole land goes tits up in a heartbeat! Avalon/Asteroid M, Genosha, whatever they called Asteroid M when they turned it into an island (Haven I think?), and most recently with Krakoa! Every time mutants try to go and leave normals in peace, if not a mutual ceasefire or non-aggression pact kind of situation; something has to come and fuck it all up, setting everything back to square 1. I know that the comic ends without the central conflict; but I'm freaking sick of this!
2:32 yes he did
Unfortunately, this is Dark Beast and he has a nefarious plan. You'll see
"And begging for your tolerance was our first mistake"
As a minority (native) the narrative, and POV will always find its way close to home with me.
Sad cause their will be an extinction of us one day and be no ndns.
Magneto was always right!
Not this time. He couldn't have seen an attack coming to Genosha where he was peaceful and not wanting war
There's a healthy middle between Xavier and Magneto. I believe Cyclops and the X-Men will eventually find it. Reminds me of the Rick Grimes arc. He tries the dictator route, and the pacifist route, then finds a healthy in-between that balances being tough with being a good person
@@LARRYLONGSTRETH To form a country one can not be to soft or to forceful, politics is a game not many have the stomach to handle. Redeemed Mangeto handle it almost perfectly, if it was not for the attack he could easily made alliances and made a more secure country. Like wise if he was alive he force the UN to act, stating if it was not a country it was a terrorist attack and if they attack them it can easily attack other weaker countries.
Leading to nations to form a more secure task force built on hunting the Terrorists down, not because they feel bad, but if this can happen to a people who has almost pure super powers, what happen to america, australia, the EU, China, Russia? Are they really going be open to civilians being butchered by robots in their lands?
Except in forming a country for the most hated people in the planet and not make any kind of Security Program.