Klampár - Waldner WTTC Dortmund 1989
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- čas přidán 14. 09. 2012
- Asztalitenisz Világbajnokság, Dortmund 1989 - negyeddöntő
World Table Tennis Championships, Dortmund 1989 - quarter final
Tisch Tennis Weltmeisterschaft Dortmund 1989 - Viertelfinale - Sport
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Klampar's incredible backhand
A hungarian player that trained against Klampár, now plays at my club. The hungarians have amazing touch and an extremely fun to watch playstyle.
I remember watching Waldner on live TV during the 1989 WTTC while living in Bonn...that's when I became hooked on table tennis. :)
Waldner actually said that the serve saved him during this match, he also said that this was the best Klampar ever played against him.. at 38! Respect from Sweden.
Is Waldner considered the greatest table tennis player of all time. There was a swede in the Olympics a few year back? Was that Waldner? I think he placed 3rd or something. I might look him up on Wikipedia to find his history as there is not much free to air coverage of table tennis. Great sport though!
Alan Chong Waldner was among the top ten in table tennis in the World for more than 20 years but also leading the development of the sport like no one else. He was European top class at 14/15 years old and second in Europe at 16. He fought and eventually defeted 3 or 4 generations of the best players from China, but how he did it is what gave the respect. No one could foreseen how he played the game. The guy you remeber is his team mate Jorgen Persson whon in 2008 become 4, 42 years old. Waldner did the same in 2004, 39 years old. Jorgen was almost as succesful but a bit in Waldners shadow. The Swedish team with them in was the only real threat for a Chinese victory between 83 and 2000 and many epic battles were fought. The last in 2000 when the then old Swedish team to much surprise took back the title one last time was a epic battle where the old guys showed that they still got it. Twice the age as the Chinese players. Then Jorgen quit the national team for some time so Chinas team got dominating again. But for me Waldner is the greatest because of his way of playing and how much influence he got. I remember a match in 93 World champ-ship when he faced the world number 9(?) Kim Teak Soo and made him look like a beginner, in the end the Swedish crowd felt so sorry for Kim that they applauded when he won a point. He got like 9 points per set (counted to 21 at the time). In 97 Waldner was world champ without losing one single set. In the mood he reached a level that rarely anyone to this day has reached. But the Chinese players today are indeed good. But they lack competition to really develop the game and interest further. One need someone to fear but Europe is way behind these days.
I heard that Waldner won a car in a tournament but because he didn't know how to drive, he didn't bother picking up the car! Is he mad? :-)
@@alanchong7513 probably import tariffs.Sweden had very high income tax rates.
@@alanchong7513You thinking about Jörgen Persson 4th place 2008, 42 years old?
Two generation of table tennis legend
Klampar's table tennis with his long arms and legs is fantastic. No one has been able to follow and overcome his style of play as of now.
His style was a relic of the early 70's when much better quality rubbers such as Sriver and Mark V were new and people were learning technique. Waldner's technique is a model for the new generation.
@@autarkoKlampar's game wasn't a relic,he beat Kim Ki Taek in the previous round who was Waldner's nightmare.
Of course Waldner was a better athlete but when Klampar's bh loop clicked he was crazy.He beat Gatien,Saive,Rosskopf and Chen Longcan in the 1988 Olympics.
@@dickn.ormous1064 of course he was a great player, but his technique was half way between the old hard bat players and the modern generation.
@@autarkoHe put incredible spin on every shot.That's the opposite of hard bat style.
He had hardly any mid distance game and his serve could be average but he was the only player at the time who had a good backhand loop without sacrificing his forehand.Even his pivot technique was good when he wasn't too rushed.
ignoring power and footwork, I dare to say the greatest skills of all time met here
True! these 2 could ride on the spins rather than everyone else generating their own spins with power
Вау,какая потрясающая эпоха, столкновение старых и новых стилей,и насколько в целом отличается от сегодняшней игры,в то время игра шла неторопливо как будто два аристократа играют, сегодня мы играем на пределе своих физических и эмоциональных возможностей.
Klampar The legend ! may be, the best bachhand of all times !
Best backhand has to go to Kreanga
@@MrBLAQ1000 Different styles.Klampar's backhand was unreadable.There are many different backhand skills ,though.
@@dickn.ormous1064 in this Modern era Klamath would be to slow
@@dickn.ormous1064 kreanga has this hands down
Thanks for upload!
Igen is Klampár Tibor volt a ki fel fedezte a gyors ragasztást 80-as években a garázsban én még ma is ragasztók gyors ragasztásal gyorsan pörög a labda vele és az érzés is másabb a játékban 🏓!
Great champions. Still if you compare to today's speed of action, the sport has evolved a lot!
This is great, never seen the whole match before
What round was this? What a great backhand Klampar had and a nice character.
1/4 final. Yes, Klampar's backhand was something else. Quite how he controlled that snappy wrist, I don't know but he mostly did and Waldner is _nervous_ here. 😏
simply amazing
Thank you
Klampar is 38 here, Jan ove was 38 , too when he was in his last top form in 2004
Highlighting the difference between the old style and the modern.
Igy is szep volt Tibi !
You have geat videos man! Thank you for uploading.
Great players.
I was there 😃 played in the singles as well 🤫🤫🤫🤫
Klampar is so stiff and awkward. But he makes up for it with smart play, great wrist-speed, and steady nerves.
I've asked him what makes him so good ? He said that he can read spin & he hits the ball perfect on target. There's a point of contact on every ball which is optimum. He knew that most players were not even aware of that.
lkaruspingpong - Do you have Sweden vs South Korea at 1989 Dortmund WTT? I remembered that game was v excited.
Klampar Tibi mentioned in his youtube interviews & I’ve seen most of them, that it would’ve been helpful if he was assisted by a coach. He believes that he could’ve won against Waldner or Guo. The way I see it against Waldner, I would’ve called timeout & surprise him with some new trick to screw him up. Tibi’s body language showed that he lost his momentum or confidence, while Waldner turned it up at the end. He’s done this a lot in his comebacks. When Tibi played Guo in 81 he played w/confidence & he had a good chance. My Swedish online friend G. has mentioned that Johanson could’ve won the singles in Culcatta but he got sick. Actually Jonyer was also sick, had diarrhea & lost lots of weight but he won. He trained very hard & knew that he’s going to win. Bengtson & J. won the doubles against them in 73 Yugoslavia, but that was an upset. Jonyer’s racket was stolen, before the match, so he was not playing his best. Jonyer made his own rackets. czcams.com/video/Q-yMVaDCXZQ/video.html
Well Stellan was previous world champ and did not lose any match when winning the team gold medal in 73 (the loss in the singles was against his nemesis Gomozokov), Kjell was in the final in the singles that year lost with very small margins, Kjell was so dissaponited in that doubles final (because of the loss in the singles final just a few hours before so Stellan carried the both of them most of the time), implying that it was a lucky win is actually wrong. Many players has lost confidence versus Waldner, but Klampar has some weaknesses which made it difficult to win in the end, not so good serve and less movable. Kjell was ranked nr1 before Calcutta but got sick during the singles tournament, when was Joyner sick? In the team challenge or during the singles? Anyway I am not surprised Joyner won in 75 because he was great and Kjell had seen his best days anyway.
@@SuperHammaren
He was sick in the singles.
@@SuperHammaren
Bengtson lost to Gomozkov in 73, cuz he messed around the night before with his current wife, according to his coach. 😉
@@stevemojo2638 Would explain it ;)
two players who are worth mentioning when it comes to answer those questions: Which player has the best touch of all time? And who made the biggest impact in table tennis?
I know Klampar didn't become neither world- nor olympic champion but his touch is amazing. He wasn't quick on his feet so he had to compromise this weakness with his unbelivable touch and wrist-accelaration which you can see especially at his backhand. And don't let us forget about the fact that he invented speed-glueing with which the era of modern day tabletennis has begun.
And J.O., I mean he is the greatest of all time.
He has the best serves and the best block of all time, because of his incredible touch.
And thanks to Waldner we saw that the asian players are not unbeatable and he paved the europeans the way so that they could become the dominant continent in the 90's with players like Gatien, Saive, Persson, Appelgren, Roßkopf, Samsonov, Primorac and Waldner himself.
Its hard to judge but Klampar was THE prototype. Waldner was more refined. I would say Klampar. If you take to consideration that Klampar had no or much lesser strenght and agility training and still could outplay waldner over and over in backhand duels. His hand-eye coordination was out of this world.
Then again, if you have followed Waldner troughout his career there is no doubt he was one of the most gifted players ever lived.
Both had the touch of magic.
Both these players had momentously impacts in the game but Waldner was ofc bigger... He went to SIX semi finals in worldchampion single, out of those he was in final FOUR times, and out of those TWO wins. One of them without losing a single game.
curiosa...Klampar was Waldners big idol when he was a youth player
Kamplar wasted his talent because of his attitude and approach . . . Its just life
The Swedes were dominant from the 70s for sure. With Stella Bengtsson being a front runner. It ended with Waldner
Klampar was. Janoves. Idol as kid
Klampar makes it look easy also he looks like he ain't even trying his demeanour is odd but effective
He looks like he's bored or didn't get enough sleep, but don't let that fool you.
Klampar looks like Schlager or Schlager looks like Klampar :)
Actually Schlager's coach was hungarian. Klampar's coach was his brother. He saw the Chinese team in Bp. one time & got the idea from them. Stay close to the table & play aggressive.
the finest two hands
JOW is so tactically TT player
Két legenda.
maybe u got a Mixed Budapest 1982 ?
.HIUUUUUUU......
Every time the boneheaded director switches to a slow-mo replay they miss the next rally. Yet they keep doing it! 😂
Those guys wouldn't stand a chance against today's players. The game has evolved so much, more power, more speed, more spin, and a lot more footwork.
No shit? Did you figure out that by yourself?
Waldner born in this generation would though kick their stupid robotlike arses for another 4 generations for sure.
@@nicklasandersson5606
Yes, no one helped me
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Actually Samsonov and Boll is still around and Waldner has beat them both. Then he was much older than here btw. Additionally it is a different game with the 38mm ball.
Everything in life evolves and improves. That doesnt discount past generations. Thats an awful argument. You can only be judged against those you competed against, not future generations that have the knowledge of watching you and the newest technology. To be Waldner and Ma Long are the best of all time.
Sorry, i don't have. :-(
sok marhaságot beszélsz
Looked like Klampa was not happy with his speed glue racket at the end of the match
По современным меркам играют плохо))
The speaking guy is annoying