I have been waiting for 27 years to see this Thank you so much. Swedish television only showed a fiew points from this match back then great game by Samsonov.
Flashback in time, thanks for a great upload, two European legends. 🙏 Such a treat to see the original babyface assassin Samsonov beat Waldner at home in Sweden.
"Samsonovs serves very, very unorthodox..." Yeah, it was back then and still is very, very unorthodox to see such legal serves with a straight upward toss and no hiding. 😉
And nobody stretches along the table's edge before the serve, which seems to have become a standard in the modern game, I still don't know why. Back in 90s, I had an opportunity to be an umpire at national events.
The commentary is the worst I've ever heard. Doesn't know the name of the shots (not every offensive shot is a "smash") and Waldner's name is pronounced Yan, not John.
@@olaniyi570The worst commentary is Bobrow-the king of cringe- screaming like a little girl and coming up with some ridiculous nicknames. They often had some great co-comentators like former World Champion and coach Stellan Bengston as opposed to a basement player who obsesses over chop blocks and trickshots.
I am surprised that one of the greatest players in the history of the sport, Jan-Ove Waldner, made so many unforced errors. Of course, the guy has a lot of success and maybe he had a weaker day, but he really gave away a lot of points for free to Vladi.
Выиграть Вальднера тогда это просто было невозможно Володя прилетел из космоса, сейчас мы это понимаем когда 15 летний харимото обыгрывает игроков с 15 летним стажем, как это? или как вам это?
It's strange that the white shirts alright for the refere. My is always told that you can't wear white shirts because of the white ball. Very strange to see that on this high level it isn't a problem at all.
Worst commentary ever!"John-Ove Waldner". The baseball anouncer doesn't know the name of the shots (not every offensive shot is a "smash") and Waldner's name is pronounced Yan, not John. That's priceless. They also forgot to mention that Waldner won Gold in the 89 World championships.
Two years later Waldner defeated Samsonov in straight games, 3-0, at the world championships, at the age of 32. Waldner played much more aggressively, third ball attacks, and attacking Samsonov's serve. Samsonov was overwhelmed. You only beat Waldner once, then he seeks revenge.
@@user-sw1gu2gs4lOf those 10 wins 1 won him the WTTC in 1997 and the other one the 2000 Olympics silver. Seems like people's opinion is mostly shaped by the algorithm of CZcams these days and stats taken out of context.Their Olympic match has only 4000 views.Supposedly, the Swedish Open is 30 times more important that the 2000 Olympics. For the matter Waldner won every single big match between them from 95 till 2000 Olympics (if we suppose the 1996 and the 1998 World Cup was significant for Waldner).
@@dickn.ormous1064 Well , Waldner lost at 95 wttc , 96 Olympics , 96 World Cup , 99 wttc , 2000 Olympics - thats only famous tournaments. His h2h is negative against Samsonov , Liu guoliang , Ma lin , Wang Liqin , even Persson, only even with Kong Linghui. He was amazing , legendary player but in terms of pure gameplay not the greatest.
Yeah he’s pretty clueless and someone must have told him that he was also pronouncing Belarus incorrect. Shows how unworldly we all were just 30 years ago
@@user-od9yj2bv5y Вальднер сыграл в Кубках Мира около 20 раз за всю карьеру,а выиграл только один, и только один раз удалось взять Кубок Европы. Это как-то омрачает мое восхищение Вальднером...
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I have been waiting for 27 years to see this Thank you so much. Swedish television only showed a fiew points from this match back then great game by Samsonov.
wow. nice
Samsonov was the new top player when I started table tennis. Such an incredible player
Tq for this....young samsonov wins at waldner hometown😲
Flashback in time, thanks for a great upload, two European legends. 🙏
Such a treat to see the original babyface assassin Samsonov beat Waldner at home in Sweden.
"Samsonovs serves very, very unorthodox..."
Yeah, it was back then and still is very, very unorthodox to see such legal serves with a straight upward toss and no hiding. 😉
And nobody stretches along the table's edge before the serve, which seems to have become a standard in the modern game, I still don't know why. Back in 90s, I had an opportunity to be an umpire at national events.
@@vyacheslavbrodovoy2039Primorac started that antic supposedly to get into rhythm.
Tons of Thank you for uploading this great moment !
Coverage is better than current WTT matches. Better angle, editing, lighting and even commentary
todays camera angle basically makes matchs unwatchable
I complained about frame-rate for so many years they finally banned me. Now it's bad angles, jump-cuts on service, unsynched audio...
The commentary is the worst I've ever heard. Doesn't know the name of the shots (not every offensive shot is a "smash") and Waldner's name is pronounced Yan, not John.
@@olaniyi570The worst commentary is Bobrow-the king of cringe- screaming like a little girl and coming up with some ridiculous nicknames.
They often had some great co-comentators like former World Champion and coach Stellan Bengston as opposed to a basement player who obsesses over chop blocks and trickshots.
Ох как непривычно, маленький мяч, по 5 подач и до 21-го. За один сет можно эмоционально просесть, как за весь матч сейчас
For me Samsonov had one of the best hands in the game.
more than a decade on the top ten, a truly legend
Samsonof legend
When LG, Korea's company, was Gold Star..
Samsonov's service hasn't changed since than
It actually did, no more hiding the contact point.
@@Lime-zd6js If you notice Samsonov wasn't hiding the ball, it was JOW who did.
He stopped doing low-toss fh serves.
great upload!
I had no idea that the King Jan Ove Waldner lost like that. Thanks.
Woww young Samsonov, ❤
Sehr feines Video. Gott ist das lange her.
Thx u so much for uploading this.
If samsonov not lazy in attacking, he should be can beat ma long
SAMSONOV 🇧🇾🇷🇺💪 😍😍😍 LEGEND
Samsonov is unique case.
"Samsonov of Bel-Air-Us..." Hilarious commentator.
That was hysterical. Bel-Air-Us vs. swe-Den, I guess it is.
Володя Молодчик! Он и сейчас в прекрасной форме! А нынче уже август 23г.
Какие же они молодые. 30 лет прошло
I never saw Waldner throw is racket, impressive!
Никакой задержки времени
I am surprised that one of the greatest players in the history of the sport, Jan-Ove Waldner, made so many unforced errors. Of course, the guy has a lot of success and maybe he had a weaker day, but he really gave away a lot of points for free to Vladi.
Так жалко, что тогда не было ютубов
в белых футболках, зашибись
Мяч оранжевый, вблизи видно.
😮
It amazes me that commentators don't take time to learn how to pronounce the names of the players.
Especially names from Eastern block 😉
Выиграть Вальднера тогда это просто было невозможно Володя прилетел из космоса, сейчас мы это понимаем когда 15 летний харимото обыгрывает игроков с 15 летним стажем, как это? или как вам это?
удивительно, как такая простая с виду подача ставит в тупик лучшего игрока в истории)) Ну вот как у Самсона это получалось??
Почему простая там вращение сильное боковое нижнее и тд и тп
Waldner at his best was one of the greatest but his form can dip
Waldner....One of the best players ever, yet he has an incredible amount of unforced errors. Very frustrating to look at
It's strange that the white shirts alright for the refere. My is always told that you can't wear white shirts because of the white ball. Very strange to see that on this high level it isn't a problem at all.
Ahhhh, much less of all this CHO!!!, and Uh, UH, EH HEH.....serve....CHO!!!!, Prepping to serve...EH, EH, Ungh, OOF, ....
I don't believe there's no Chinese among the winners.
Worst commentary ever!"John-Ove Waldner". The baseball anouncer doesn't know the name of the shots (not every offensive shot is a "smash") and Waldner's name is pronounced Yan, not John.
That's priceless. They also forgot to mention that Waldner won Gold in the 89 World championships.
white shirts ;-)
But yellow ball
Самсонов выступает под запрещенным флагом..)
Is noone gonna comment on HOW that yellow card was shown? Ahaha
І сцяг такі прыгожы..
Two years later Waldner defeated Samsonov in straight games, 3-0, at the world championships, at the age of 32. Waldner played much more aggressively, third ball attacks, and attacking Samsonov's serve.
Samsonov was overwhelmed. You only beat Waldner once, then he seeks revenge.
Samsonov was strongly tired after passing of four chinese in the road to final...
@@user-go4jl3yd2p He also lost to Waldner in the Quatar Open which was the last tournament played before the WTTC...Samsonov was just outplayed.
@@dickn.ormous1064overall h2h is 20-10 in favour of Samsonov
@@user-sw1gu2gs4lOf those 10 wins 1 won him the WTTC in 1997 and the other one the 2000 Olympics silver.
Seems like people's opinion is mostly shaped by the algorithm of CZcams these days and stats taken out of context.Their Olympic match has only 4000 views.Supposedly, the Swedish Open is 30 times more important that the 2000 Olympics.
For the matter Waldner won every single big match between them from 95 till 2000 Olympics (if we suppose the 1996 and the 1998 World Cup was significant for Waldner).
@@dickn.ormous1064 Well , Waldner lost at 95 wttc , 96 Olympics , 96 World Cup , 99 wttc , 2000 Olympics - thats only famous tournaments. His h2h is negative against Samsonov , Liu guoliang , Ma lin , Wang Liqin , even Persson, only even with Kong Linghui. He was amazing , legendary player but in terms of pure gameplay not the greatest.
Great match but the American commentator is extremely annoying. Such an artificial voice
the guy has very little understanding of the nuances of the game. He keeps stating the score and that's about it
Yeah he’s pretty clueless and someone must have told him that he was also pronouncing Belarus incorrect. Shows how unworldly we all were just 30 years ago
Agreed. The American commentator is appalling. How the hell he ever gained employment is beyond me
when u cant pronounce Belarus....id like to speak to the manager. (we are all karens sometime)
Свой самый главный финал Самсонов проиграл в финале ЧМ
Устал Володя после четырех поверженных по дороге в финал китайцев,а именно : Ма Лин,Ван Лицин,Динг Сонг и Конг Линхуа...
@@user-go4jl3yd2p Конечно устал! Но Вальднер тогда был на пике гениальности
@@user-od9yj2bv5y Я иногда задаю себе вопрос-а стал бы Вальднер ЧМ 1997 года,имея такую сетку,как Володя? Видимр нет....
@@user-go4jl3yd2p А задай себе вопрос сколько раз играл финал Вальднер и сколько Вова?
@@user-od9yj2bv5y Вальднер сыграл в Кубках Мира около 20 раз за всю карьеру,а выиграл только один, и только один раз удалось взять Кубок Европы. Это как-то омрачает мое восхищение Вальднером...
I think those commentators are in the wrong sport. They know nothing about table tennis.
He lost
Yes! And the otherone won!
he looks very feminine when he serves
Wow. The judge got right in waldners face with the YELLOW CARD. That’s a little too much