EPIC 4-WAY NEW YORK RACE to JFK Airport | Helicopter vs LIRR vs Taxi vs Subway
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- čas přidán 30. 03. 2023
- TPG raced from New York's Times Square to JFK’s new Terminal 8, with the help of some US teammates! Putting four modes of transport to the test, we took the Long Island Rail Road, Subway, Yellow Cab and Blade Helicopter.
Melanie Lieberman took the NYC subway.
We paid:
Subway single-ride fare - $2.75
AirTrain Ticket - $8.25
Madison Blancaflor and Liam Spencer took a taxi.
We paid:
NYC Yellow Taxi (via Curb) - $98.16
Total: $98.16
Tanner Saunders took the Long Island Railroad
We paid:
Long Island Railroad One-Way City Ticket - $5
AirTrain Ticket - $8.25
Total: $13.25
Nicky Kelvin took a Blade Helicopter
We paid:
Blade ground transfer - $100
AirTrain Ticket - $195
Total: $295
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As a New Yorker, I need to point out two things
1. It would have been a lot easier and faster to take LIRR from Penn station
2. It would have been A LOT easier to go to 42nd street for the E train
She should have taken the A train, it also goes to jfk and it is much faster because it is express.
@@mike77752 The (E) is also express in queens so it really doesn’t matter
Idk which would be faster but I think E to Jamaica won’t take as much time as the A to Howard Beach. And anyone taking the A also have to make sure it’s the one going to Far Rockaway, not to Lefferts Blvd.
@@youtubesewersocialist right, forgot Q10 runs down Lefferts from Kew Gardens
Looking at these comments, Ladies and gentlemen… this is why I don’t bother asking New Yorkers for directions. Y’all are terrible.
Taxi runs the risk of getting stuck on the Van Wyck Expressway.
The $5 railroad fare is only during the off peak hours and you must be sure to select the “City Ticket” option.
The fare for Airtrain has gone up another 25 cents since this was filmed to $8.25, making the full fare with the subway $11
The air train being 8.25 is highway robbery. Literally every other city has a free airport people mover, why is New York special. If it *has* to cost money, make it the cost of a subway fare
@@piemadd Actually it's common to have a premium to go to airport stops on public transport, such as in Barcelona and of course London's Heathrow Express. But NYC has an additional complication because the subway is run by one agency and the air train by another. What we really need is the subway to actually go to the airports making the AirTrain redundant at JFK.
@@abmindprof there's the difference between shuttle/people mover vs direct train. For direct train many cities make you exit with a turnstile to grab the extra fare. People movers are usually free.
@@piemadd The airport, and by extension the Airtrain, are run by the Port Authority. The PANYNJ does not receive a penny of tax dollars, despite being co-owned by the two states. So all of it's funding must come from internal sources. Also, while I don't condone it, the passengers who do pay effectivly subsidize the ones who don't. Airtrain is free at every station other than Jamaica and Howard Beach. So aside from being free to use within the central terminal area, it is possible to take an MTA run bus to the Lefferts Blvd Airtrain station and board the system without paying.
Even more dumb is the fact that you can pay by contactless card on the New York subway but not on the air train you need to buy a metro card for those one or two train rides when you come to nyc
As a TPG loyalist, I really wanna see a shake up in how future videos are conducted. For example, to make it more fair for all the team who partake in the videos, there needs to be a more democratic system akin to the earliest episodes so that it isn’t just Nicky in the highest upper class/luxurious travel method, it has been done before where Liam was in Qatar first class and QSuites as well as Jean and Ben in their respective first classes; to see Liam’s reaction in say Emirates First Class, Singapore Airlines (suites) or ANA First Class (The Suite) would be awesome to watch in a future TPGUK video. I get Nicky is the boss of the company so has a higher stake in what class of travel he gets to choose but it would just be nice to see more equal opportunities.
Hard agree. Getting bit bored of this distribution of team among travel classes.
What happened to Jean anyways?
And also the arrogance of the Nicky person not wearing a seatbelt in the car / SUV
@@maheshhettiaratchi5364 No one wears a seatbelt in taxis or Ubers in NYC.
Noone cares 😂
No, I was dying. I wanted to tell her that the E train is downstairs all that time! As for the cab, isn't there isn't a flat cab fare to JFK? As for Blade that's an infliction on the whole city, a constant racket as the billionaires save 30 minutes.
It's a flat rate from JFK to Manhattan, I don't think it's the other way around
Blade - but billionaires don't have to mix wth the great unwashed.
HAHA ME TOOO!!!! LIKE BROOO DOWNSTAIRSSSSS
@@torql13 it’s $74 with all the fees in both directions in a yellow cab, PLUS any tolls and it’s an extra $5 between 4pm and 8pm for rush hour, unless you’re north of 96th street, then it’s a flat fare.
Surely Uber would have a flat rate, cheaper and probably just the same time.
If only Tanner knew taking the LIRR from Penn Station was the better option from Times Square. Just take the 1, 2, or 3 one stop south to 34 Street-Penn Station and you can exit right to the LIRR concourse. Although absolutely gorgeous, Grand Central is a labyrinth to get through! The Grand Central Madison escalators are 182-feet long and the LIRR section is 140 feet deep! But as deep as GCM is, it's still not the deepest station in the city. That title goes to...191st Street on the 1! Which is 173 feet/53 m deep and even has a pedestrian tunnel where you feel like you've entered another dimension with all the artwork and graffiti it tends to have. It was featured in the 2021 movie In the Heights.
When the Luton DART opened and people were complaining about the £4.90 fare, my New Yorker self was laughing, saying "At least you don't have to pay $8.25 for it!" The AirTrain fare is absolutely ridiculous, and it doesn't encourage people to take transit, it DIScourages! Though you COULD go around it by taking the Q10 bus to Lefferts Blvd on the A from Lefferts Blvd on the AirTrain, as the only stops on the AirTrain with fare gates are Howard Beach and Jamaica.
Yes, I was thinking exactly that he should have taken the train from Penn. I was surprised to see him leave from Grand Central, especially walking
From Penn, almost every train stops at Jamaica, I think only the Port Washington branch doesn't. Thus with a ticket to Jamaica one can get on practically any train so the wait time should be minimal. The LIRR is definitely the way I'd go and at mid-day there should be plenty of room on the train.
The AirTrain is literally a train ... the DART is shorter than a mile but according to price per mile its the most the expensive transport system in the world.
@@RafaquaQuetta And? What about it? It's still an airport transit system like the DART! My point still stands that the AirTrain fare should be FREE! Charging extra on tourists (and the ordinary locals) for simply deciding to take transit to the airport is unfair.
@@AverytheCubanAmerican the AirTrain is owned by the Port Authority and the subway is owned by the MTA. Anyway, screw the greedy airline companies and greedier Port Authority and MTA as well.
Great video. I loved my ride on the Blade helicopter but in value-for-money terms it's hard to justify. Plus, as you found, a key factor can be your start/end point's proximity to the West 30th Street heliport.
Another factor with all the options is luggage. Blade will only take one cabin-size piece, so if you have larger items they are either collected earlier in the day or dropped off some time after arrival, depending on your direction. The inconvenience of luggage on the train or subway needs no expansion here.
For me the options with hand baggage only would be subway or LIRR plus AirTrain. With luggage, a cab or Uber, though the Van Wick Expressway can be very frustrating at times. Blade's service is great and the views of Manhattan from the helicopter are fantastic, but the cost - especially when you factor in extras for luggage and car service - make it a special treat rather than an everyday contender.
Rob
Once again Nicky takes the premium option, I mean, come on!!
I'd never thought I'd be watching "The Amazing Race: Commute to JFK" edition in 2023. This is amazing.
Using Grand Central Madison for the LIRR when it was in it's reduced schedule phase makes no sense. Should have taken the 1 to Penn Station and would have been on a LIRR train to Jamaica in half the time it took here. If this was done again today, I would think LIRR would be fastest, every single departing train stops at Jamaica.
Yes! This was my first thought! Saves the giant escalator ride too.
😁Love your competitive camaraderie and learning best ways of getting around! 👍
Anyone else notice the stock footage they used for 'JFK' Was Actually Laguardia?
ya'll are sooo underrated though you guys really need to put everyone's race time in the video. Like I have no idea how long public transit actually took in comparison to Blade.
This is the first time I've seen someone taking a taxi beat the LIRR to JFK. Probably because they started from Times Square instead of taking the subway from Times Square to Penn Station, and then taking the LIRR straight to the Jamaica AirTrain stop, and then to JFK
"And Tanner...went to the wrong train." Mel saying that...the irony is strong with this one. Mel can't blame the subway for this one. There are signs in that station that clearly label where the E is. You also have to consider the fact the reason the NYC Subway is like this is because it's the result of different competing companies being combined into one. It can be confusing, yes, but the MTA holding it all together (with over 400 stations btw) and still making it work is a feat. Especially a system as old as NYC's! And it's one of the only systems in the world that runs 24/7, every day of the year!
Not even our beautiful Pyongyang Metro is that way! We have two lines, the Hyoksin Line (which means renewal) and the Chollima Line (which is a winged horse in Korean mythology that can travel a thousand li/500 km in a single day) with sixteen stations total. Our metro is over 110 meters deep and because of that, it can double as bomb shelters in case of war. Our metro is famous for using old Berlin U-Bahn Class D rolling stock, but we've built rolling stock in-house.
The best video so far
Great video!
Amazing really appreciated 😂👏🏻
Ha, I just visited NYC for the first time this week & used all the transportation for the first time. 😅 We were going to take the LIRR but were worried about time so we opted for a Lyft to JFK. Joke was on us bc we ran into a pretty bad accident & everything was stopped. After several minutes our driver asked us when our flight was, then did a u turn on the freeway & drove back the other way. 😬 It was an adventure but at least we made it.
Don't always do the rich guy stuff with Nicky please...
It's in his contract he don't do povo travel.
It should be a draw like the older videos
Nicky owns the channel so ofcourse he would
It's not nice to say that. Some rich people help homeless like people buying food for homeless, etc.
I mean maybe he pays for his stuff lol
You all are fantastic, but Melanie has my vote to win it!
That platform at W 50th and 8th Ave is a bit wonky. Not only different platforms for the C and E trains, but no underground crossover to the downtown trains. However, it's not like there isn't any signage to say that the E-train platform is downstairs.
Tanner's mistake was going to Grand Central. He walked to GC, then it takes almost 10 minutes for GC to the new LIRR platform. The train schedule is better with midday trains running about every 12 minutes. But Penn Station is still the better option, especially from Time Square. Hop on the downtown 1-train to W 34th/ Penn Station with a 2 minute walk to the LIRR platform (yes, the 3rd car from the front will be by the escalator at the Jamaica Station). The trains at Penn Station run frequently and around the clock. The LIRR at GCM shut down at night. AirTrain is now $8.25, but if there are 2-4 of you and you are using it coming and going, buy a 10 ride AirTrain card ($25). Up to 4 at a time can use it and good for 30 days after the first use.
Tanner could have 20-30 minutes off his travel time going through Penn Station.
What were the actual time differences? In terms of making this informational, the time the challenge started really mattered for LIRR and of course there was the hiccup on the subway.
I'd like to know the final times for each method. What were the dollars per minute or the minutes per dollar?
98 USD + gratuity for a cab ride to the airport is INSANE. You can fly from Paris to Barcelona return and with a friend for less.
Paris is a third world country
A collab that I never expected till now
That looks amazing 😂😂😂😂😂
Great video
Great race with lovely locals - what fun. Thanks for sharing. Stay well and positive. Hello from London : - ) xx
I’m yelling at the screen rn. 😂 As someone who’s lived in NYC, WOW this was poorly coordinated. From homeboy not going to Penn Station to catch the LIRR to home girl taking the LOCAL E train to the far reaches of Queens. I say send some native NYers and I promise this race would be totally different
Interesting race, I live on west 42 st near Times Square. I was surprised that the taxi got there in under an hour. The only time a taxi ever got me to JFK that fast (45 min) was at 5 AM. Its usually 1h 15 or longer by taxi. Subway is still the best bang for your buck. I like the LIRR Train but the E train is closer to my home via Port Authority where there are ramps and escalators to get down to the subway. Also the E from 42 st can be 45 min to your terminal. Also if you are staying father downtown like 14 st and below the A the is better at getting you to the Air train.
LIRR beats the subway (time-wise) if you plan it right -- nobody shows up at Penn Station or GCT and waits 29 min for the next train. Just get there a few min before the next train departs. The clock on these challenges should start when they get in the car/on the train, to account for the schedule issue.
@@mar_man813 That would disrupt the narrative.
Why does Nicky always do the fancy stuff?? 🤨
Because he’s the 🔥est? 🤔😉👍🏻🤣
Why not?
1:57 There's a hotel Hyatt Centric that was down the street on W 45 St/Times Square there's taxi's that sit out front. Its not a standard yellow taxi, it a SUV black car and they usually have standard rates to the airport.
Love you!!!!
Nicky always getting the fanciest option -.- #JusticeForLiam
love your channel,
But how long did it actually take each one of you?
I love this race to jfk and yes the cheapest way using subway or the LIRR. Great job guys.
I say the LIRR is the best way to JFK airport
We did subway and air train from Penn in December cost us $6 as got free tickets with using subway during our stay in NYC and with luggage it was so easy
Also maybe instead of 2 people taking a cab. Maybe one should have tried Uber/Lyft?! I think most New Yorkers use those apps for rides more then cabs. 🚕 I myself (not a New Yorker) prefer the subway!!! 🚇 I am still in aww how the subway can take you to almost anywhere in New York….if not you can also hop on the bus. I love how you can get a week pass for $32. Very affordable in my opinion!!! 💸 And the trains are mostly reliable & frequent.
Unsurprisingly Nicky took the fanciest option because that’s what he does in all the videos.
Well he’s the boss
#JusticeForLiam
Hes the owner of the company 😂
That Toyota Venza taxi in the background when they got the cab was so rare. I've never even seen one and it's not on google
I’m glad they used the 47th street entrance for GCT and didn’t go to 42nd St
Are you guys gonna do a jfk to London in all cabins and this is part 1 or did you guys stay or just go all economy back to London?
Nice collaboration folks. Grew up in the suburbs of NYC and this is a great sampling of the options to JFK
The Grand Central escalator takes 90 seconds. The LIRR station is 17 stories below ground.
Surely that you’re in New York, do a class comparison on Air New Zealand from New York to Auckland 🥰😍
This was great. No one here beats the guys on scooters and electric bikes. 😂
Yeah but you can’t take pevs on the plane so where do you put it
I was literally at the 50th st station a few weeks ago and I was thinking I don’t remember the C and E sharing tracks there lmao I bet she would have been pretty close too! Anytime I look at GPS the subway is the fastest or within 10 minutes of the LIRR! Damn we need another try lol
Nothing unites New Yorkers more than n00b transit routing: "he should've taken the LIRR from Penn!!!"
Aah nicky and his jokes hahaha
Love it
That is so cool
Great video! Blade is expensive, but the most fun option!
I guess ur a blade runner
NYC to BOSTON. Limoliner coach bus was the fastest over the train and flying. Sadly another one bites the dust in the past few years.
Is there anyway of avoiding that $8 air train fare? I hate paying it especially when you pay $33 for a metro card for a week all over the city. I often wondered if you can get a bus to one of the in between stops and hop on for free.
Why not get the lirr from penn like six block down from Times Square?
could’ve taken lirr from penn too, or the A to the air train in howard beach
I was fr shouting this
I’ve never hailed a cab… 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️. JFK has soooo many options, but I’m a LGA guy for midtown, and EWR for downtown. I’ve made it from LGA Term B curb to Midtown hotel checkin in :26 minutes Q70 & F. I’ve done the same points with Lyft in 1:30 minutes. Both midweek and during commuting time.
This reminds me of the Subway Wars episode from How I Met Your Mother 😅
Haha just saw that episode a few days ago and it was the first thing I thought of
LIRR is probably your best overall value.
Liam’s cab curb riding was hilarious 😂😂
Could you guy’s do another airline video on lot polish airlines
Why did Melanie go all the way to 50th St station. The uptown platform for the ACE is between 42 & 45. I think she would've gotten at least 2nd place.
You said Blade took 40 minutes, but not how long for the other 3 modes. Just curious.
I think u should take blade everyday
how did they get from times sq to madison station?
the amount of times ive accidentally waited on the upper level for the e at 50th...it was once but still a very humbling experience...
Yeah, Nicky, your choice was so affordable. It's going to be my way to..
“And liam” ahahhaha
Not only was she on the wrong platform for the "E" train, but she actually could've taken any of those "C" trains that went past her and transferred to the express "A" at 42nd street. She still probably would have lost anyways, the A takes like an hour to get to Howard Beach station... My favorite way to get to JFK is the LIRR, it's fast, cheap, and reliable.
A always loses to the E from Midtown. The breakeven is around Canal.
LIRR from Penn Station is 15 min to Jamaica. Then another 10 min to the terminal. No way the E beats the LIRR.
I'd take the train anyday. Simple, cheap and easy 🤷🏼😊
Maybe a meeting spot in the terminal would have been a little more kind to the public transit folks since the cab and helicopter just finished at the curb.
Do westjet dreamliner from calgary to london
How many mins difference in each?
You were going to take the E train at 50th Street instead of the A at 42nd Street to JFK? 👀Good luck! 😅
The A takes WAY longer to get to the equivalent AirTrain transfer point (in its case, Howard Beach) than the E does; it's SIGNIFICANTLY faster to go via Queens using the E
What time of the day was this race? I can't believe that driving in traffic beat the LIRR!
Come to Vancouver I will join your race
Do one in Los Angeles from downtown la to LAX.
Who remembers when casey neistat used to take helicopter to the airport all the time ??? the same place, same way ahhhh good old nostalgia
Girl! Waiting on the wrong platform? Have youbluved here long?😂
I love these challenges. Another layer, that many people deal with, that could add a twist is adding disabilities and people with mobility aides or issues. It’s great if you’re able bodied. However, what do similar challenges look like with bigger disadvantages?
At the 17 second mark, you say you are going to JFK and it says JFK on the screen however the image is of LaGuardia airport.
Nicky should take the subway
I was going to say that at 50th Street the C and E use different platforms. The E is express outside Manhattan so good choice. Faster than using the A Train.
A new AirPort Express service to the JFK terminal. It would be better than all methods combined.
The LIRR would have easily won had there not been a service disruption
I'm really surprised that the helicopter transfer was not much faster than the taxi. By the way, 100 $ for the taxi was a rip-off, I paid 58 $ in May 2022.
everything is getting expensive here in the city! Cos taxi fare was $52 now $70. so in this case you did not give any tip to the driver. shame on you German guy! lol
Is it fixed fee from JFK and not going to JFK.
I think you can’t beat the price and speed of the subway though
Why didn’t the LIRR & subway people just take eighth ave from 42 st. Seemed like it would take longer to go to 50 or GC
plz do a delhi to london vistara all class comparison🙏
casey should have been on his boosted borad you for got the kin g
Hey guys, you didn't let us know the difference in the time it took each one of you to get to JFK. A $300 helicopter ride may get you a "win" but how much time did you save?
Adventure result! 😀
Didn't you do this last year?
The E is downstairs 😅. She was waiting on the wrong tracks
If you like to take a special relax way to the JFK take the Rockaway NYC Ferry (Purple) from Pier 11 to Rockaway Ferrystation walk 400 Meters to the Subway Station Beach 105 and take the S and A Subway to Howard Beach and then the green JFk Train to the Airport . At a sunny Day a relax 2 1/2 hour way to the Airport :-)
Truly money can solve all of my problems
Does she know that the E train departs from the downstairs platform on the uptown 50st station?
Things are so much worse! When I was a kid you took the New York airways helo from Midtown at the Pan Am building ROOF . Now the Met life building I think.
There in No time.
When I was in college in nyc we used to hire a car from a service and get a few of us going to the same airport for flights within a couple hours of each other and then split the bill. It was great and cheaper then the yellow taxi, usually had discounts and would come right to your door when you scheduled it. I always thought a hired car was bougie and for rich people but it actually was very cost effective the way we did it.
Nice report. However, something needs to be added. the LIRR $5 ticket is called city ticket which only offered during weekend. (Update: I was wrong. Correct info is that city ticket is available for off peak train now. ) The regular ticket price is much higher depend on traveling during the peak or off peak hours. In addition, you guys should also do LIRR from Penn station and subway A train from 42nd st. (next time call me to join and I can do the A train report for you lol) BTW, welcome to NYC!!!
Cityticket is now available for all off- peak trains, not just weekends. You just need to buy it on the day of your travel.
@@ACruzWx wow.. thank you. I didn’t know that they changed this policy in 2022!! Thank you so much!!
HOW is this your 1st time on Blade?!?? I've been stealing a certain Mr Kelly's Blade-Code for a couple years now 😄
"Hopefully Tanner... went to the wrong train."
Oh, the irony.