The Early Years of the Silk Road!! Excellent Presentation!!
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- This audio lecture from CHP China History Podcast gives us an interesting view of the history of the Silk Road in Ancient History! Laszlo gives an important lesson in the brutal and treacherous geography while lightly discussing the economic, cultural and socio-political changes that took place as various peoples gained access to the trade routes of Asia! Below are links involving China History Podcast!! Show CHP Love!!!
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Laszlo’s back from Germany and after a long delay we pick up where we left off. In this episode we reacquaint ourselves with the background and early years of the Silk Road.
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Missing ya Nick. Thanks SAMA for the library y'all left us.
Usually, I do not like the lecture style presentations, but this one I enjoyed very much; informative and an interesting presenter. I did not have flashbacks to dull college lectures. Bravo!
The Silk Road is an incredible source of history and stories. Thanks for taking this on. I began reading on it after seeing the Japanese 1980 documentary. Awesome.
Holy Crap. That WAS good... I gotta go find Vol 2.....
Fine job....
Thank you. This was really well done. Hope you publish more!
This is THE best summary of the silk road on CZcams. I know, I just watched all of them.
Yes! Wonderful presentation and knowledge. More!!!
One of the greats.
The Old Silk Roads originated in Kabul Afghanistan ~ 3400BC. Kabul was originally called Olympus, named after Olympia, the name of Havilah's wife, son of Cush, son of Noah. There Zeus (Cush) reigned until his younger, somewhat illegitimate son Nimrod, called Thor by the Greeks in the 8th century BC took control first trying to relocate the capitol just north of the Persian Gulf in Babel but due to a confusion of languages gave up that project and moved to the mouth of the Nile under the name of Narmer, later called Ra in Egypt. Kabul/Olympus was also the place of administrating the Indus Valley farming operation. Nimrod was the first Pharaoh of Egypt who subjected the descendants of Mizraim (from whom we get the name Egypt, Nimrod's Uncle), that had already settled from Memphis northward to the coast with city/states each about 20 miles in diameter. Nimrod, also called Baal and Tammuz united all of Egypt establishing the beginning of the first kingdom period of Egypt about 3100 BC. Nimrod lived to be a little better than 300 years old before he was executed by Shem, also a son of Noah because Nimrod claimed to the the Messiah, the God/Man and pressed this upon all peoples under the threat of death.
The Old Silk Roads first was developed around the Pamirs and the Kush/Cush mountains. This served in trading among the Titans (the direct descendants of Shem and Japheth) and the Olympians (the direct descendants of Ham) but expanded further over the centuries that followed. To their north was Kazakhstan that was still a marshy swamp after this freshwater inland sea had broke through the Tianshan mountains contributing to the flood of the Tarim Basin around 3520 BC.
Kronos, The time keeper, Noah, left his offspring to fight over everything and eventually moved to Crete where he established the first civilization on that Island. Kronos is the father of both the Titans and the Olympians.
What kind of drugs you take? That some delusions and false information your putting out there lol
Absolutely love this channel
Thank you so much for your acknowledgement of my 👍 for this on the Silk Road. I truly found it a most interesting lucid and indeed invigorating account of this subject - this mild interest has now developed into a serious “ itch”! - I need to read more and you have been prime in this - thank you again. Yes! I will look at other projects you cover. You have a talent for captivating interest😀
Definitely check out The China History Podcast!!!
Thank you Ian. There's actually a new Silk Road Podcast I've listened to....Ain't bad. Check it out. silkroadhistory.podbean.com/
Greatly helped improve my understandings of the geography of the silk road. Connections with modern-day trade and goods and analogies are interesting. Thank you for the great presentation and knowledge.
wonderful. you know so much,
Clapping
Get your noggin joggin. Thanks for your time and passion. Thanks for posting friendo
Enjoyed very much.
I really enjoyed this! Thank you so much. = )
I thank you for taking the time to give it a listen.
Awesome history library, Nick. A few years ago, I purged most of my books. The ones I kept: history.
very detailed. thank you for sharing
Phenomenally good, thank you 🌿🌟🌿🌟!!!
The Old saying nothing New under the SUN! It's so interesting! 😮 if people would just think about it.
thanx for video, from the Central Asia
Absolutely first class - thank you!
Thank you sir.
Definitely check out his other works!
Thank you!
I write from Colombia, your channel has been like finding a treasure, very good
juanfervalencia thank you so much for joining us and for your support!
Love the intro to this video
The Bactrians are my ancestors. I'm a Beckerites. When my family left the Rhine they went back to Hungary first then to Ukraine. I read that the Black Sea Germans Lutherans knew how to grow silk worms. Odd my ancestors come from Worms Germania. Speyer Germania. They were going back to where they had already been. Every city my family lived in was named after Becker, ephraims son. My ancestors. My family has lived where the bible said they would be. And I have oral history and many years of tracing my genealogy. I love your history.
Chinese did not like to trade finished cloth. They traded silk thread, the Venetians dyed it and wove it and traded it all over Europe. (Medieval Period) So what Europeans were actually going crazy for was Italian cloth, which they STILL MAKE on Historical handlooms for thousands of Euros a meter.
The best on YT WW.
Kenneth w harl .... More of his stuff please
I recommend putting close caption, but other than, good video!
not really. Quite a gifted narrator.
1903 archaeologist Stein found a hellen settlement , at Niya that;s right Greeks in China . The British museum had a few artifacts .
*YES I LOVE LASZLO, IT'S A SMALL WORLD*
It sure is! Thanks for that love!
Big thanks for the link. I have recently gotten a couple of books on the silk road but both were very disappointing and spent way too much time talking about modern events and nations that have some historical link to the silk road.
You need to activate captions in the videos so we canread , people with audition problems thanks
Very interesting.
At some point, you need to do a discussion on how the discovery of the water route to India by the Portuguese affected the decline of the Silk Road, and the kingdoms & empires along its route.
I believe the transfer of trans-Asia trade from land to sea was the cause of the decline of the Ottoman Empire, and eventually of China itself. They lost the finances that underpinned their wealth and stability.
Meanwhile, the wealth of the trans-Asian trade went to Portugal, Holland, France, and Britain.
This also changed the balance of power in Europe. Austria-Hungary, Venice, and Poland were once wealthy and powerful. The power of Europe transferred to Britain, France, Holland, and Spain.
That is a simple and broad understanding, but I think it is basically true.
A long, more detailed, and validated discussion of the impact on the Silk Road after the Age of Discovery would be interesting.
Thank you.
Maritime Silk Road.....I've waited all these years to tackle that subject. That and everything that followed in the wake of Prince Henry the Navigator. A formidable but fascinating subject. Quite an interdependent trade network.
@@ChinaHistoryPodcast let me know if either of you published a document on the Marine Silk Road subject. I'm doing my urbanism thesis based on the silk road. Greetings!
@@gustavomontemayor661 Hi Gustavo. Nothing specifically on the Maritime Silk Road but I am currently working on a multi-part series on the History of Guangzhou. That will contain some info on the MSR. Part 1 is coming out June 26. Great topic!
Love it, biggest wish, when the maps match the verbal description.
Very interesting indeed and tons of information. If I may point out, Great Royal Road shown across Pakistan India should be Grand Trunk Road. Thanks for this wonderful video.
nice
Too much discussion of the Silk Roads trade focuses upon the long haul transit of luxury goods, which would have made up only a very small portion of trade volume. A single expedition carrying precious goods from China to the Mediterranean would have been exceptional - exceptionally expensive, and exceptionally risky. Most of the trade would have been series of shorter haul transits between neighboring cities plied by local merchants familiar with “their” segment of the trade route. Luxury goods would have worked their ways from one end of the route to the other eventually through multiple transactions between merchants, each taking their profit from the movement of goods.
Excellent point.
21:15 - _Ahahahahhahahaha!_
When you were talking about the northern route and the southern route around the Taklamakan desert, it would’ve been nice if you put the map back up so we could follow what you were talking about.
It seems that the Tarim mummies were working the silk road before the Sogdians.
Sir, you are an entertaining speaker yourself.
Haha, this guy is full of himself, but I can't help but agree with him. This was a great video. Subscribed and can't wait for the next installment.
Yikes! I'll try for more humility in the future. Thanks for the kind comment mate. Hope you like what's coming next.
@@ChinaHistoryPodcast Don't get me wrong, while I think you do exude a kind of cocky confidence, I absolutely believe that you back it up. Being confident is awesome when you can actually deliver, and you certainly do that. I REALLY enjoyed your talk, and look forward to more. Don't try for more humility, you just keep on being you. I guess the vibe I was trying to describe is like the story of Babe Ruth coming up to bat in the World Series, and pointing at a spot in the outfield. And everyone thinks, look at this cocky guy. Then he sends the next pitch sailing over the fence, right where he pointed. What starts off looking like someone that is full of himself, then becomes something totally awesome. That's how I felt watching your video. You are the Babe Ruth of Historical Lectures. That's a good thing. LOL
@@Bundy714 Hah! OK, got it. I appreciate these very generous and kind words. This is an old old episode I did several years ago.....listen to a few more and let me know if this style grows on you. I love doing these history lectures.....putting that B.A. degree to good use finally!!!
An excellent presentation. Very well spoken and interesting approach. My only critique to this well thought out presentation, would be, to maybe point out the cities mentioned on a map...as they are mentioned. And the reason why, is for listeners like me...who are rooted in the English language, have difficulty in 'hearing', the name mentioned. It makes it difficult for those of us...to understand where, and what city you are referring to. While listening to your presentation...I have Google Maps pulled up...so I can follow which routes and which cities you are referencing. It is a very enjoyable experience, to be able to follow the terrain, of the geography, and see the influences the geography had on the Silk Road. Obviously...the route had to stay near a water source, i.e. a river, and avoid high mountain ranges when possible. Other than that slight constructive suggestion/critique, this is an excellent presentation much enjoyed. Unfortunately, my English speaking ears, find it difficult to follow the path from the Chinese language named cities/areas. Obviously...this is my weakness and not your problem, so to speak. I hope I worded that in a way, so as not to offend. It certainly was not intended in that manner. You have a new subscriber...and another like...☀️.
Edit: After reading a few other commenters, comments, someone suggested closed captioning. I don't know what difficulties that would bring you, but that would certainly be an excellent solution to this problem. I could see the name of the town or area you are referencing, and easily go there, on Google Maps. Again an excellent presentation.
Your Chinese accent is very good. At least for a white person.
I accidentally started watching this cause you said those hard words the right way
In Texas we say it wrong and get indignant when corrected.
Thank you so much for this great 👍 video.
herand sogomon definitely check out his other works! We are uploading more from his podcast also! But definitely check out his other episodes. Absolutely fantastic!
It was a decades long drought That made the Bronze Age collapse.
In The BC era , Maximum they went would have been to the Mediterranean areas. No Europe in that era.
Did the each trader go all the way from China to Rome, or did each trader only go a part of the way?
The China to Rome route was just a piece of the trade. With all that space in between filled with all those cities and kingdoms (and don't forget India), the lion's share of the trade occurred between these places. Even Rome wasn't big enough to absorb all the traded goods China could produce. Like the bi-annual Canton Fair in China, traders walk that show from all over the world to buy goods for their own markets.
I found out I have Silk Road disease and just trying to figure out how I got it since there is no cure or information on it since it is rare
Great job..you tell it like a fairy tale, Yet, it was a real story. I doubted the Chinese have a different intention than they had millennium ago. If the new silk road become fully connected, the 21th century will be so prosperous for the world.
Imagine all the possibilities......May we all live in peace and understanding.
proper pronunciation of names and places. a rarity. well done! multi-million dollar documentary productions voiced by world renowned actors almost never accomplish this.
Hi Lazlo, just love this podcast. Is there any evidence that Jesus or his disciples traveled to Ch’ang? I’m interested in the Japanese monk KuKai who traveled to ~Ch’ang in 805 AD? Thanks so much💫
Ann Parkes if you want to learn more definitely check out the links in the video description above and enjoy more episodes from CHP. His work is excellent!
I'm sure there must be books written on the subject. I sure would love to learn more about that subject. Traveling from the Levant to China was already a common thing. I did a podcast many years ago on the early years of Christianity in China. Mostly looks at the Nestorians.
It's amazing video enjoyed to watching it 12:50 it's never been a "Chinese" Turkistan. Correct name for this land of the cities Kashgar and Urumchi is East Turkistan. Probably after Chinese government through using their so called "reducational camps", they will convert turkic and persian descendants of this ancient East Turkistan, completely Chinese. Which actually repeating nazis policy against jews in WW2, in this case against uyighur, kazakhs, kyrgyz and tajiks
Please send this great historian some money $5-$50 per month.
I can hardly wait.... *Marco Pollo*
You forgot one of the mayor trade headaches then and now: All the different countries/governments/religions you must deal with. All the different (sometimes opposing) taxes/regulations(tradewar) that various countries have.
I bet that sure put a damper on the trade business.....as it does today.....Thankfully the rise of Nationalism hadn't happened yet in Silk Roads times to further exacerbate those headaches......Excellent point you raised johnsamu!
Minor issue: The picture around 25:02 is Japanese not Chinese.
Good catch Everett...
What were the European people selling in Asia? How did they pay for the chinese goods?
It was rare for Europeans themselves to travel the whole route, Marco Polo being the best known exception. Going east to west it was rare for merchants to travel the whole route. There were stations, stopping points all along the route. Merchants had their little chunk of route they passed back and forth over. At the stations goods, camels, food, everything were bartered and exchanged. And so on and on down the line. Payment was primarily by exchange of goods, one bolt of silk for ten woven boxes of peppercorns or other spice from Arabia-that kind of thing. Blessings, Nick.
Unbutton the top button bro
Chinese dictator fashion
And stop bouncing back and forth!
And stop looking down at me.
Tamilian Empaer was the oversteps for the world as we know...
Aquaducts!
Thank you Minoans, Assyrians and Romans!
No closed captuons😪
Total war Warhammer is the shit just saying
🤔 terran terrain TehRahn Tehran Téràn.
I Ran, Iran, he ran.
T'aven baxhtale miro mannush akaij kama jekh kush drom
Made in China ~ a brand in resurrection ?
Tartarians and Phoenicians
#tartary
Tartar.
tatar and even tho you people call us that were indo-ariyan sakai mongols came much later..
@@billdehappy1 lol, you think when they were alive and in their prime, they were speaking English calling themselves tartars? Or even the Bablyonians or Anatolians?
You are beautiful.
@@thejmoneyshow its you who call us not the other way around...
@@thejmoneyshow and still tatar.
@@billdehappy1 Bro, they didnt say 'tartar' and they didn't say 'Mongols'. We're having a discussion about Latinized words and you trying to making something from nothing, lol
None of the words we used are the words they used, might I suggest "The Horse, The Wheel, and Language" by David Anthony or
The Urals and Western Siberia in the Bronze and Iron Ages (Cambridge World Archaeology) or
The First Farmers of Europe: An Evolutionary Perspective (Cambridge World Archaeology) or The Archaeology of the Caucasus: From Earliest Settlements to the Iron Age (Cambridge World Archaeology)
We can debate the words, lets go back to what they were using.
Your Chinese pronunciation is better than your German. Ironic considering that German is more related language.
Never studied German.....I'm gonna work on it though!
The elephants and giraffe 🦒 come from africa not india check your information
Han dynasty never nas been big as today and Mongolia never been part of China period.
True true.
I stopped watching during the intro.