A day in the life of an ancient Greek architect - Mark Robinson

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  • čas přidán 14. 09. 2020
  • Follow Pheidias, the chief builder for the Parthenon, as he supervises the construction of the new temple and faces charges of embezzlement.
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    The year is 432 BCE. As dawn breaks over Athens, Pheidias is already late for work. He is the chief builder for the Parthenon - Athens’ newest and largest temple- and when he arrives onsite, city officials accuse him of embezzling gold from the temple’s sacred central statue. He has until sundown to prove his innocence or face the courts. Mark Robinson outlines a day in the life of a Greek architect.
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Komentáře • 433

  • @prakharchaudhary9797
    @prakharchaudhary9797 Před 3 lety +693

    Mom! Phideas and Perc are making an Athena temple!
    (Greek flute plays).

    • @whynamedwhycare7174
      @whynamedwhycare7174 Před 3 lety +53

      In reality Phideas Sister Candakos is annoying, she always try to blaming her brother without a proof

    • @two-face1041
      @two-face1041 Před 3 lety +7

      @@whynamedwhycare7174 Which is probably the Origins of their sister in the show

    • @MANGLORIOUS
      @MANGLORIOUS Před 3 lety +4

      Underrated comment

    • @Dfathurr
      @Dfathurr Před 3 lety +26

      Phideas : Hey, where's Perios?

    • @minoadlawan4583
      @minoadlawan4583 Před 3 lety +12

      Candace would be named Cassandra.

  • @QuestionEverythingButWHY
    @QuestionEverythingButWHY Před 3 lety +1015

    “Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws.”
    ― Plato

    • @bebanxd1074
      @bebanxd1074 Před 3 lety +12

      the og anarchist

    • @cinnabard955
      @cinnabard955 Před 3 lety +21

      Ah yes, Plato, the guy who thinks people are chickens.

    • @metallsnubben
      @metallsnubben Před 3 lety +13

      @@cinnabard955 Diogenes really did it to him

    • @thoraxzx
      @thoraxzx Před 3 lety +7

      I feel like an intellectual after watching Ted Ed videos but the next day I forget

    • @niccolocobrado3078
      @niccolocobrado3078 Před 3 lety +10

      @Question Everything - Thought Provoking Ideas, please question and provide the source of the quote at least. This is horrifyingly simplistic, considering the context of the quotation. No quote directly translated from ancient Greek would have sounded like this. Actual quotation is: "Laws are made to instruct the good, and in the hope that there may be no need of them; also to control the bad, whose hardness of heart will not be hindered from crime." Plato, Laws book 9, 880d-e, trans. Benjamin Jowett. This is even a bad translation, the better ones are by Thomas Pangle. And Phidias is not a kind of person Plato especially admired, nor one famous for lawfulness, considering his low opinion about art and artists in the "Republic." The construction of the Acropolis and Parthenon is heavily criticized in Plato's "Gorgias," not as a pointless aesthetic expense, but a sign of moral corruption.

  • @bookishclara2653
    @bookishclara2653 Před 3 lety +367

    3:57 Imagine taking a picture in front of the magnificent gold statue but when you get home, all you have is a photo of you with some giant glowing toes...

    • @daemekh564
      @daemekh564 Před 3 lety +27

      I suppose the goddess is too magnificent to stay in a measly mortal's phone screen...

    • @Ax-N
      @Ax-N Před 3 lety +6

      I won’t complain about Feeet.

    • @avinashmuraleedhar
      @avinashmuraleedhar Před 3 lety +2

      Panorama mode

    • @asmijain2695
      @asmijain2695 Před 2 lety +1

      Well, the Athena Parthenos doesn’t exist anymore so…

  • @lurking_silhouette5802
    @lurking_silhouette5802 Před 3 lety +441

    "Bruhh, why is everybody quoting random stuffs in the comment section?"
    - Lurk Silhouette

    • @laggedxx
      @laggedxx Před 3 lety +23

      “I don’t know man.”
      -Muhammad Avdol

    • @nerium9762
      @nerium9762 Před 3 lety +9

      "I just came here and didn't know what was happening"
      - n0tail

    • @iadtag1853
      @iadtag1853 Před 3 lety +7

      "For wisdom is but only a way of branding"
      -iadtag

    • @SacredGaea
      @SacredGaea Před 3 lety +1

      😂

    • @sanchan619
      @sanchan619 Před 3 lety +6

      "Like you, I wonder the exact same thing."
      -sanchan619

  • @saumyashree4926
    @saumyashree4926 Před 3 lety +594

    “Architecture is the learned game, correct and magnificent, of forms assembled in the light.” - Le Corbusier

    • @EXOPLANETnews
      @EXOPLANETnews Před 3 lety

      czcams.com/video/BfHyKYJCq_k/video.html

    • @aldreymenezes7652
      @aldreymenezes7652 Před 3 lety +25

      He said that and went on to design a lot of hideous stuff

    • @joelrebollar7055
      @joelrebollar7055 Před 3 lety +6

      That architect is a stain on humanity.

    • @franknjoga9594
      @franknjoga9594 Před 3 lety +2

      Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

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      @kushalkumar8621 Před 2 lety +2

      @@aldreymenezes7652 1

  • @hitrapperandartistdababy
    @hitrapperandartistdababy Před 3 lety +165

    4:20
    *Greek aprox 400 BC: G o a t Y E E T*

  • @mbbbits4847
    @mbbbits4847 Před 3 lety +323

    As a Greek I am very happy to see our culture and history being represented so accurately and skillfully. Ευχαριστώ (thank you as we say in the homeland).

    • @kohterg3713
      @kohterg3713 Před 3 lety +6

      Modern day "Greeks" has as much connection with the ancient culture of Greece as modern Egyptians have with ancient Egypt. If it wasn't for the British and the French to remove the dust of history you would be sitting on top of those ruins without realizing the meaning of it all. You should indeed be thankful.

    • @mbbbits4847
      @mbbbits4847 Před 3 lety +29

      @@kohterg3713 the fact that our culture inspires people should be considered as a testament to our importance in the cultural sphere. I suspect you were also 'inspired' to commit to the process of 'διάλογος' (conversation), although you have a funny way of showing it.

    • @kohterg3713
      @kohterg3713 Před 3 lety +7

      @@mbbbits4847 I find it ridiculous how one is bragging about the past while being obsolete in the present let alone being of any sort of relevance for the future. It seems a persistent trait of any undeveloped country... which is pity for everyone's sake, especially the young generations that are yet to come. I'm not downplaying the importance of ancient cultures, but rather trying to punch through people's "ἐγώ" in hopes of awakening them.

    • @iolanda04
      @iolanda04 Před 3 lety +13

      Η Ελλάδα είναι μόνο μία και στον κόσμο άλλη καμία!❤🥰🇬🇷❣

    • @krispi1481
      @krispi1481 Před 3 lety +11

      @@kohterg3713 you probably say that because you have no culture and history yourself. You lack of pedia.

  • @xxiao5156
    @xxiao5156 Před 3 lety +133

    There are lots of centaurs carved in the scenes. Their leader, Chiron, was also a god of medicine and pharmacy. So you could say that he was a Centaur for Disease Control and Prevention.

  • @raziyab7974
    @raziyab7974 Před 3 lety +228

    "Excellence is not an act, it is a habit." - Aristotle

    • @sebastianelytron8450
      @sebastianelytron8450 Před 3 lety +3

      It's excellence, not quality. I know nobody gives a s**t in a youtube comment section (morons will like pretty much anything) but at least quote it right to respect Aristotle.

  • @ttrestle
    @ttrestle Před rokem +28

    Can you imagine seeing this right when it was completed? Beautiful.

  • @lucianolizana446
    @lucianolizana446 Před 3 lety +336

    As a just graduated architect, this is so cool, my poor man Phidias tho :c

  • @Blessedlife247
    @Blessedlife247 Před 3 lety +76

    4:21 that goat caught me off guard lmao

  • @madeleine4852
    @madeleine4852 Před 3 lety +62

    I love these 'a day in the life of' videos.

  • @nickolas.h
    @nickolas.h Před 3 lety +25

    So proud to be a Greek-Cypriot and learning so much from this wonderful channel. ❤️🇬🇷🇨🇾

  • @lenlenlen6152
    @lenlenlen6152 Před 3 lety +99

    I cannot be the only one who immediately thought of Annabeth

    • @kiraricarte5801
      @kiraricarte5801 Před 3 lety +7

      I thought of her too. Especially with the Athena Parthenos.

    • @xeniaumair7217
      @xeniaumair7217 Před 3 lety +3

      No you cannot. That’s the reason I clicked on the video

    • @cccaaa702
      @cccaaa702 Před 3 lety +1

      Your not.

  • @sebastianelytron8450
    @sebastianelytron8450 Před 3 lety +171

    An ancient Greek was trying to figure out how long a day was.
    But after 24 hours he called it a day.

  • @Jamil1989
    @Jamil1989 Před 3 lety +10

    I'm an Architect by name and I need constant reminder on why I am. These kinds of stories keeps reminding me as to why I started this path. I will design my masterpiece one day.

  • @unimaginableboi7164
    @unimaginableboi7164 Před 3 lety +108

    "I always start off my day by moisturizing my face, and exposing my skin to the sunlight for 2.3 seconds.."
    - Every 'A day in the life' ever.

    • @TheAlps36
      @TheAlps36 Před 3 lety +1

      American Psycho reference?

  • @aizenreeve9435
    @aizenreeve9435 Před 3 lety +15

    History of Architecture 1. I can still remember how our instructor enthusiastically retold the construction of this temple (and many other architecture). His enthusiasm was the reason why I love the HOA subjects so much to the point that I don’t need to study for every exam. Because I was legit listening to every word he said and learned a lot from it.

    • @Jamil1989
      @Jamil1989 Před 3 lety +4

      The HOA subjects were some of the best ones in Architecture school.

    • @jimbuttoh7714
      @jimbuttoh7714 Před 10 měsíci

      Hey, where did you study and who was your instructor?

  • @megonekeem
    @megonekeem Před 3 lety +8

    Why do I find his voice so soothing
    It’s like ur in a movie and u wake up, the sun is shining, the birds chirping, and ur dog comes to greet u😌

  • @Phillipwnn
    @Phillipwnn Před 3 lety +1

    Absolutely incredible video, once again. Thank you Ted-Ed!

  • @freshavacadofr00shs66
    @freshavacadofr00shs66 Před 3 lety +1

    What a perfect way to start the day!! The day in the life series is amazing 🥰

  • @plumbobsify
    @plumbobsify Před 3 lety +9

    My two favourite topics combined, Greek history and architecture! As a graduate architect, I love this episode most 😍

  • @kathirthegreat1431
    @kathirthegreat1431 Před 3 lety +2

    I love how they give us information through story telling!!❤❤

  • @avisekmaitra8659
    @avisekmaitra8659 Před 3 lety +38

    Greek history is now one of my favourites thanks to ted Ed

  • @connorredding
    @connorredding Před 3 lety +9

    I love Architecture as well as Ancient Greece. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!

  • @saumyashree4926
    @saumyashree4926 Před 3 lety +40

    The person who just narrated in this video is my favourite storyteller .😍

    • @franzliszt767
      @franzliszt767 Před 3 lety

      He’s called Mark Robinson

    • @EHaoK1
      @EHaoK1 Před 3 lety +2

      why are the responses two different people lmaoo

    • @gyrozeppeli00
      @gyrozeppeli00 Před 3 lety +4

      This is the "two smartest kids in the class having different answers" situation isn't it?

    • @zexplayz2251
      @zexplayz2251 Před 3 lety

      Ye its Mark Robinson. its literally in the description

    • @Sean-zf8ki
      @Sean-zf8ki Před 3 lety

      @@zexplayz2251 bruh it is a LESSON BY Mark Robinson but it is NARRATED BY Addison Anderson. Addison Anderson voices and narrates many other ted ed videos

  • @awesomeeverton7111
    @awesomeeverton7111 Před 3 lety +20

    my favourite series is back!

  • @aadhyaivaturi495
    @aadhyaivaturi495 Před 3 lety

    The animations are amazing as always!

  • @amb4237
    @amb4237 Před 3 lety

    “A day in the life” videos are amongst my favorites here in Ted Ed.

  • @johnderickebora5057
    @johnderickebora5057 Před 3 lety

    The narration is amazing as expected nice

  • @mdtauseefzubayeramin9638
    @mdtauseefzubayeramin9638 Před 3 lety +44

    "In Africa, a minute passes every 60 seconds"
    -some random dude on the internet

  • @eyrincrawfordnutt8495
    @eyrincrawfordnutt8495 Před 3 lety

    Finally I missed these videos❤️❤️

  • @Drewbinsky69
    @Drewbinsky69 Před 2 lety +2

    'Earth proudly wears the parthenon as the best gem upon her zone'

  • @kerishmamadhavan9497
    @kerishmamadhavan9497 Před 3 lety +2

    My teacher showed us this video in History class a few weeks ago. He loves using Ted Ed videos for every lesson. It’s really helpful to our upcoming tests. 👍 ❤️

  • @Crichi404
    @Crichi404 Před 3 lety

    My art history class just talked about this today. Couldn't have been timed better!

  • @lailadavenport6092
    @lailadavenport6092 Před 3 lety

    I love ted Ed it is so fun to learn from their videos. I really enjoy this tending to this mans voice. It is so peaceful and I have been watching ted Ed since I was little

  • @TimidTracker
    @TimidTracker Před 3 lety

    Very small thing , but I love the use of B.C.E. And once again, such a good video! Love to see it.

  • @JamesLewis98
    @JamesLewis98 Před 3 lety +9

    "They say of the acropolis where the Parthenon is...that there are no straight lines." - Stephen Fry

    • @avian8338
      @avian8338 Před 3 lety

      Too subtle for CZcams users mate

    • @dandodman
      @dandodman Před 3 lety

      Whatever! - Alan Davis

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    @mysterious7215 Před 3 lety

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  • @nstuey6974
    @nstuey6974 Před 2 lety +2

    “They say of the Acropolis where the Parthenon is....”
    Stephen Fry

  • @brohith1722
    @brohith1722 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for giving information TED ED

  • @abthedragon4921
    @abthedragon4921 Před 3 lety +111

    "Architecture has recorded the great ideas of the human race. Not only every religious symbol, but every human thought has its page in that vast book."
    - Victor Hugo

  • @arandominternetperson23
    @arandominternetperson23 Před 3 lety +1

    Really nice explanation TED-Ed..........

  • @laikahmad1102
    @laikahmad1102 Před 3 lety

    I love your voice it soothe the brain and attracts the brain towards the concept❤️❤️

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    @kuronekosan1 Před 3 lety

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    @paritoshjha28 Před 3 lety +1

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    Will definitely donate to you when i am able to... ❤️

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    @wanderer7600 Před 3 lety

    I am in love with these animations

  • @mjstory1976
    @mjstory1976 Před 3 lety

    Awesome and informative video

  • @AquaCitea
    @AquaCitea Před 3 lety

    I love this series!

  • @marialenaleakou2409
    @marialenaleakou2409 Před 3 lety +3

    I always knew that Phedias was the sculptor of Parthenon and Iktinos and Kallikratis were actually the architects. Phedias had his students and some other sculptors help him with with the sculptures.. Your editing is amazing though, really liked the style!

  • @tannukashyap4224
    @tannukashyap4224 Před 3 lety

    such an educative channel.

  • @namratapatil6605
    @namratapatil6605 Před 3 lety

    I liked the video too much. It was amazing as every time.

  • @i1l4u3_jk4
    @i1l4u3_jk4 Před 3 lety +75

    "A quote"
    - everyone

  • @jaketheperson8495
    @jaketheperson8495 Před 3 lety

    You know how much I like these!

  • @mimimi3440
    @mimimi3440 Před 3 lety +1

    So lovely I always love pheidia's statues

  • @KibosEats
    @KibosEats Před 3 lety +6

    Pheidias is that one person you always hear about in math problems.

  • @MisterOrange1
    @MisterOrange1 Před 3 lety +36

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  • @booksourexistence2153
    @booksourexistence2153 Před 3 lety

    Thanks a lot sirji

  • @lazyalchemist5950
    @lazyalchemist5950 Před 3 lety +7

    I'm in India and its midnight
    Once I listen to this I can't sleep.
    I go 🥰

  • @sarahkaveh7739
    @sarahkaveh7739 Před 3 lety

    Wow you don't how mauch eager i was for another "a day in life" video😦🌻🌻🌻🌻🎁🎁🎁🎁🎁Te ed thanks for teaching me💗💗💗💗💗🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈

  • @Jobe-13
    @Jobe-13 Před 3 lety

    I love this already.

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    @saumyamishra2695 Před 3 lety

    My fav series

  • @xerophyll
    @xerophyll Před 3 lety

    the background music kinda reminds of AC Odyssey, and they covered abt this too in their Discovery Tour: Ancient Greece

  • @user-hh2is9kg9j
    @user-hh2is9kg9j Před 3 lety

    I wish I have a time machine to go visit places and witness great events. I can bet everything that things happened significantly differently than everyone thought they did.

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    Fascinating History!!🙂❤👍

  • @armyyyyyyyyyyyy
    @armyyyyyyyyyyyy Před 3 lety

    Love these day in a life ones♥️😍♥️😍

  • @littlehaven7275
    @littlehaven7275 Před 3 lety +7

    I wonder if any of the buildings I create will be studied and revered in some capacity...
    Interesting thought 🤔

  • @TopazPhoenix16
    @TopazPhoenix16 Před 3 lety +2

    I love videos like this! Can you guys put out a video about a day in the life of women in Ancient Greece?

  • @Amitdas-gk2it
    @Amitdas-gk2it Před 3 lety

    TY 😊

  • @tejasdeepsingh456
    @tejasdeepsingh456 Před 3 lety +1

    Do a video on the temples of Thanjavur.

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    @helenadasilva9371 Před 3 lety +4

    You guys need to make more architectural videos.
    There is so much to take on.
    History vs. Le Corbusier
    The Bauhaus movement
    Jane Jacobs and her book "Death and life of great Americans cities" and how it saved and revolutionised urban planning.
    So many great architects, urban planners, engineers and styles through out the ages.

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    @nyxstrix0 Před 3 lety

    Best ed channel ever

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    @c.i.a.932 Před 3 lety +5

    I’m ready for this Ted vid already!

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      @ajinkyaghule2198 Před 3 lety

      I am Indian, but I don't think the CIA did Minecraft and Terraria series

    • @c.i.a.932
      @c.i.a.932 Před 3 lety

      @Ajinkya Ghule
      The more you know

  • @QuestionEverythingButWHY
    @QuestionEverythingButWHY Před 3 lety +8

    "The measure of a man is what he does with power.”
    -Plato

  • @varunprakash6207
    @varunprakash6207 Před 3 lety

    Architecture of world is an imagination of man to show his story and carving of history shows design and Traditional development in the Technology 👍👍👍👍

  • @URORONG
    @URORONG Před 3 lety +1

    I've finished watch this

  • @meros3881
    @meros3881 Před 2 lety

    great video! just one word though: if i remember well, the parthenon is not a temple, it's more of what we would call a treasury (like the siphnian treasury), ie a gigantic offering, which hosts other smaller offerings (the main one here being the athena parthenos).
    also people wouldn't have made libations nor sacrifices in temples: altars were outside, in front of temples, as the goal was for the blood to run down to the ground and the smoke up to the sky and gods. :)

  • @geo_licious
    @geo_licious Před 3 lety +4

    I'm building a pantheon-like temple in Minecraft as my home. So this is actually really inspiring!

  • @Nimble.tkl1
    @Nimble.tkl1 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you so much for this, Please do 'A day in a life of a 17th century pirate. "

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    @randomperson5693 Před 3 lety +2

    BEST CHANNEL EVER 💪

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    @dickyarya8204 Před 3 lety +1

    Thought this video cover on how the heck did they put a large roof stone up there

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    @mirsami00 Před 3 lety +14

    "Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it and I shall move the world"... Great line

  • @someonethatexists46
    @someonethatexists46 Před 3 lety

    TED Ed is now my history teacher for quarantine.

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    @oscarlundberg7462 Před 3 lety +20

    When it turns out that you accidentally calculated the expensive marble pillar to be 3 cm too short:
    *Disgruntled Moaning*

  • @Shazistic
    @Shazistic Před 3 lety

    Every Heart Has A Pain .. Only The Way Of Expression Is Different .. Some Hide It In Eyes While Some Hide In Their Smile.
    -The Shades

  • @magathi4972
    @magathi4972 Před 3 lety +1

    Wow!

  • @krunalbhalodiya5291
    @krunalbhalodiya5291 Před 3 lety

    Make video on ashoka and his 9 unknown people who had the knowledge of the universe

  • @user-dh7eq3hi1g
    @user-dh7eq3hi1g Před 3 lety +3

    I am from Greece and I hope that more people after seeing this video will realise what the British Museum did. Stole a part of Parthenon

  • @blueeye2281
    @blueeye2281 Před 3 lety +1

    1:42 didn't expect that from you Ted Ed

  • @johnbooth1110
    @johnbooth1110 Před 8 měsíci

    Do you know who really built the Parthenon, Naxos, island Leontini the Ionian style is Naxos theme, Dionysis artifice

  • @Luffy_wastaken
    @Luffy_wastaken Před 3 lety

    Ted Ed usually uploads at 8:40PM in *India*

  • @ilikecheese4477
    @ilikecheese4477 Před 3 lety

    I love Ted Ed's videos

  • @TheAlps36
    @TheAlps36 Před 3 lety

    Remind me again what they say of the Acropolis where the Parthenon is...

  • @shebarashid3696
    @shebarashid3696 Před 3 lety

    Always wondered it

  • @johncelvelasco8070
    @johncelvelasco8070 Před 3 lety

    This CZcamsr is my childhood ❤️

  • @skuemr3871
    @skuemr3871 Před 3 lety +1

    I got here a minute ago.
    Nice.

  • @hackerbrinelam5381
    @hackerbrinelam5381 Před 3 lety

    Interesting video but how about the Think like a coder series

  • @MS-dl2co
    @MS-dl2co Před 3 lety +1

    It seems that the role of an architect has changed since then. Nowadays architects focus on the esthetics only while in ancient times they were also engineers and construction managers.

  • @maxhill9254
    @maxhill9254 Před 3 lety

    thx