@@savagelife5613 yeah. Anyone who’s been in the cummins/diesel community knows that 2nd gen swaps on a dodge truck, especially in the context of performance mods or turbo upgrades, are 2nd gen style manifolds not a literal 2nd gen engine swap
You realize it literally doesn’t do anything to the diesel engine... in fact more fuel and more air going into ANY engine will make it have more power more torque without hurting the engine
@@SaintThaG well it’s a 5th gen ram I mean technically all that’s changed is the interior bed and front end the cab is still 4th gen body but hey suck me bro it’s not a new gen Prius
I have a friend I graduated with (we're both engineers) who is useing his CnC skills and trying to make 6.7 a completely mechanical engine. After he gets that issue figured out he's planning a fuel injected version. Basically cause the engine will be mechanical it will no longer need a computer and no computer means certain negative aspects of modern diesel engines will no longer be an issue. Wink wink.
Maybe a slightly clickbait title lol. Im sure i wasn't the only one who thought you'd be swapping in a 2nd generation 12v motor into the truck and not just a turbo swap. Only reason I clicked the video. Nice truck either way but I wanted to see that swap lol.
@@redpoole9323 Well I never claimed to be a Cummins expert now did I? Nope didn't think so. However common sense would lead many to believe what I stated. Someone says 2nd gen and it usually mean 2nd generation truck or 12 valve. Im sure others didn't immediatly jump to thinking it was only a turbo swap. Would have much rather seen a 12v swapped into a newer truck instead of a basic turbo swap.
good eye, it will over time damage that tank. it needs to be relocated or a good shield added. keep an eye on the trans dipstick, it will melt first. i like the cold side of the turbo right up against the exhaust manifold. oil feed line will rub on a/c pipe- one of them will fail
That engine air filter on your truck is the reason I had to rebuild my motor at 180K miles. Ate up the piston rings, valve guides, valves, 4 turbo swaps,(kept destroying the impeller wheel) and the block barely cleared at .030 over. 10,000 dollars later, I learned my lesson. I run a factory air box and factory air filter in my trucks.
Good video! That’s frickin sweet!! Thank you for not sharing tuning info. These videos are watched by the epa and they will do there best to shut all custom tuners down.
Glad you threw a turbo blanket on the hot side, I feel like that thing is super close to some stuff that looks prone to melting (especially the wiring harness, you may want to protect that a bit more)
I like that bright red color. My uncle just got a 2019 3500 dually with the mega cab and a substantial trim level after driving an 06 2500 mega cab diesel for about 12 years.
If your not deleting witch I recommend you dont. you will mess up then air ratio which will cause more soot and clog your filter, these trucks are set up for perfect air in fuel ratio just like if you have a small leak in your intake system it will cause you to soot your filter up also just foid for thought
If you notice the exhaust tone, there is no filter, muffler or fluid injection system. My 18 has no soot issues at all with all the work it has done. Also, if there is more air than fuel, soot will not be an issue. Heat will be an issue with the afr being lower than expected. Most computers and tuners have a setting to learn your driving habits and adapt throttle, fuel timing and (in my case) VGT settings in the stock turbo
Depends on the type of claim. If the back up camera fails, they would cover it. If the motor has an issue, it will depend on how cool his dealer service writer is. Remember, the dealer gets paid for warranty work......
Why take out the air box and leave that air filter right there? All it's doing is sucking hot air. The motor runs a lot better and more power with cold air.
you realize that when then air is compressed by the turbo, wether it's hot or cold, it still gets cooled down by the intercooler before entering the intake
And this is why we sold my ctd after my wife bought a 6.4 hemi. Pulls 26k# well enough and only gave up 2mpg. I was like wow someone put a classic 12v in a modern truck.... And.. shame....
nice how the cold side is right up against the exhaust manifold, thats gonna help heat the air and raise egts. did you preoil that nice pretty turbo before simply firing the thing up, crank it to build oil pressure- anything???
Where did you get the dpf and def delete kit? And what tuner did you use to keep all the egr and stuff from goin crazy throwing check engine light on and stuff
in his case he didn’t use a delete “kit” becuase he swapped the exhaust manifold to a after market one and also the intake horn. which both he bough do not have the flanges for the egr cooler and valve. thats how you gotta do it now becuase it’s hard to get delete “kits that are just block off plates for the stock exhuast manifold and the stock intake horn
It looks great. I’m doing a fummins and I dropped in a 2013 6.7 but I want to do the same thing to my Cummins. My question is did you have to reprogram any and doing the conversion? Thanks
so your the reason ive been waiting for my steed speed manifold for 2.5 months. lol. mine is in transit for my 2006 3rd gen. i hope it turns out as nice as yours. how did u tune this swap?
Whoever you are using for tuning, make sure to let them know that you are obviously deleting the truck, but are also installing a 2nd gen swap. If you don’t tell your tuner that your installing a 2nd gen swap you’ll have check engine lights because of the VGT actuator and what not.
I want to 2g swap my 18 also, but I have a 5 inch pipe and don't want to downsize to the 4 inch. I like the way the 5 inch sounds. I also wo der if there is an option to mount the turbo lower, like flipping the manifold and hanging the turbo lower.
Don’t void your warranty on these brand new trucks by deleting it or doing engine mods & a straight pipe exhaust? At least power terrain warranty wise. But that’s looks sweet! Looks better then the stock engine!
Once you do the deletes to any modern truck and put the proper supporting mods on them you don't need a warranty. I have done work on both a duramax with 3000 miles on it and now my Cummins with 7000 miles and have never had one problem now have over 160k
Yeah, I’m in Texas and I have yet to encounter an inspection spot that checks exhaust or anything like that. Just asking cause I was wondering what the rest of the good ole USA does. There’s bound to be some guys in California that have to deal with it.
Hey man did you use dummy plugs when you swapped exhaust for all the dpf connectors? I want to do the exhaust on my 2019 just don’t want to leave my plugs all exposed
Why did you do that honestly? If these trucks make 1000lb ft and you’re putting on a turbo from a truck that makes 440lbft stock why? I can understand dpf delete but this? Confused
2nd gen exhaust manifold is far superior to those after, because the turbo receives exhaust gas in the center of manifold were flow is less turbulent and pressure is greater, instead of the junk he removed were turbo is placed at the end of manifold so manufacturer could make room for the EGR and EGR cooler which he is now placing in a recycling bin, also I promise, he is making more hp and torque than factory numbers.
Soooo why is this video called “brand new 2020 cummins 2nd gen swap”??? That would mean you’re putting a 12 or 24v from a 94-02 into it... am I missing something here?
A second gen swap is most common on 6.7 Cummins. Your taking the variable geometry turbo and manifold off and putting a fixed geometry turbo on with a second gen Cummins style exhaust manifold.
street life I wouldn’t necessarily say it’s the manifold that creates a higher pitch. A 2g swap with a proper time will allow for a slightly higher RPM range, and a good amount of guys that do 2g swaps will build their top end and throw in a good street cam. The cam allows for an even higher rpm range with more air flow and that’s what changes the pitch. The whole reason for a 2g swap is for better air flow and better distribution through the manifold compared to a stock 5.9 CR or 6.7 manifold.
@@levim6417 oh okay. I was wondering how people did that cause the 6.7 always sounded muffled after a straight pipe and some people made it sound different so they must've done the 2nd gen swap
2nd Gen swap when looking at common rail trucks is the turbo/exhaust manifold swap, more specifically the manifold style and location of turbo being based on the 2nd Gen style
The older gen engines are better, you can run 500,000 miles with the older engines no problem. My papa had a 2003 3rd gen 5.9 and it had a million miles on it and it still goes to this day.
I actually thought you were going to swap it with a 5.9
me too lmao
I was so excited lmao
Same. I have a 2018 frame im putting a 12v into. Thought this would show me what motor mount issues i may run into! Disappointed
The 6.7 & 5.9 are very similar, you can put a 5.9 injection system on a 6.7 ive seen it done.
Sameee thought. Got a little excited Lmaoo
I thought everyone knew 2nd gen swaps were exhaust manifold swaps lol.
omg right all this hate
@@savagelife5613 yeah. Anyone who’s been in the cummins/diesel community knows that 2nd gen swaps on a dodge truck, especially in the context of performance mods or turbo upgrades, are 2nd gen style manifolds not a literal 2nd gen engine swap
Now time for a Trans that will hold up.
Awesome truck man! This has got to be the 1st 5th gen truck with a second gen swap!!! Pretty badass
Such a beautiful engine with all that emissions garbage cluttering and killing that diesel engine.
That stuff worries me. I've been wanting a newer diesel pickup but for right now, I'm gonna stick with my emissions free 6.5
You realize it literally doesn’t do anything to the diesel engine... in fact more fuel and more air going into ANY engine will make it have more power more torque without hurting the engine
@@esco9043 im talking about the emissions they only rob power, efficiency and durability.
Dukes 001 ok since when was it proven Emissions AKA EXHAUST Rob power and durability ? Please do show me where it proves that
@@esco9043 You obviously don't know diesels
This is the only 5th gen I like the headlights really fuckin look nice
Lawrence Cunningham it’s called a new generation for a new model year
@@SaintThaG well it’s a 5th gen ram I mean technically all that’s changed is the interior bed and front end the cab is still 4th gen body but hey suck me bro it’s not a new gen Prius
Awesome video! Nice powder coating love the red Color. Very detailed!!
I have a friend I graduated with (we're both engineers) who is useing his CnC skills and trying to make 6.7 a completely mechanical engine.
After he gets that issue figured out he's planning a fuel injected version.
Basically cause the engine will be mechanical it will no longer need a computer and no computer means certain negative aspects of modern diesel engines will no longer be an issue.
Wink wink.
The computers of a 6.7 are what make it appealing
Maybe a slightly clickbait title lol. Im sure i wasn't the only one who thought you'd be swapping in a 2nd generation 12v motor into the truck and not just a turbo swap. Only reason I clicked the video. Nice truck either way but I wanted to see that swap lol.
It's not click bait. "2nd gen swap" is the term most used for this modification.
2nd gen swaps always a turbo swap in the Cummins world
I swapped a 12v from a 95 ford f700 Eaton fuller 6 speed in a 4th gen 5500
That just shows u dont know anything about the Cummins World.
@@redpoole9323 Well I never claimed to be a Cummins expert now did I? Nope didn't think so. However common sense would lead many to believe what I stated. Someone says 2nd gen and it usually mean 2nd generation truck or 12 valve. Im sure others didn't immediatly jump to thinking it was only a turbo swap. Would have much rather seen a 12v swapped into a newer truck instead of a basic turbo swap.
Am I the only one worried about the turbo melting that plastic tank
good eye, it will over time damage that tank. it needs to be relocated or a good shield added. keep an eye on the trans dipstick, it will melt first. i like the cold side of the turbo right up against the exhaust manifold. oil feed line will rub on a/c pipe- one of them will fail
That engine air filter on your truck is the reason I had to rebuild my motor at 180K miles.
Ate up the piston rings, valve guides, valves, 4 turbo swaps,(kept destroying the impeller wheel) and the block barely cleared at .030 over. 10,000 dollars later, I learned my lesson. I run a factory air box and factory air filter in my trucks.
Good video! That’s frickin sweet!! Thank you for not sharing tuning info. These videos are watched by the epa and they will do there best to shut all custom tuners down.
Now it’s a million mile Cummins
Very nice truck. Love to see a dyno run before and after the delete to see how much of a difference it makes
Glad you threw a turbo blanket on the hot side, I feel like that thing is super close to some stuff that looks prone to melting (especially the wiring harness, you may want to protect that a bit more)
I like that bright red color. My uncle just got a 2019 3500 dually with the mega cab and a substantial trim level after driving an 06 2500 mega cab diesel for about 12 years.
Would like to see the numbers on this to see what kind of improvement this makes.
Not much with that 68rfe. It will go before anymore power can be achieved
@@redpoole9323 is the aisin better
@@rickyflores4070 It is a tougher Trans for sure but anything can be destroyed by Power.
Nice build!! power driven diesel makes a killer air filter and would match your color scheme much better that that blue. Just saying
Where's the 5.9 with the p pump at?
Even whit the spacer the compressor is so close to the mannifold
@@forrest6723 nice built, greetings from Puerto Rico 🇵🇷
just keep an eye on your trans dipstick so it dosent melt and i would also keep an eye of the Evap line
but bad ass truck
Nice to see a emissions compliant truck
I couldn’t imagine doing this to a brand new truck!!
Leave the lines on the rail pull it out as hole saves lots of time
Great video, very in depth
Ive seen a few of theee videos. Might aswell buy d&j freeze plugs since your right there miggt aswell. Just that more security.
If your not deleting witch I recommend you dont. you will mess up then air ratio which will cause more soot and clog your filter, these trucks are set up for perfect air in fuel ratio just like if you have a small leak in your intake system it will cause you to soot your filter up also just foid for thought
If you notice the exhaust tone, there is no filter, muffler or fluid injection system. My 18 has no soot issues at all with all the work it has done. Also, if there is more air than fuel, soot will not be an issue. Heat will be an issue with the afr being lower than expected. Most computers and tuners have a setting to learn your driving habits and adapt throttle, fuel timing and (in my case) VGT settings in the stock turbo
Me with my 99 5.9 cummins looking at this like: 👁👄👁 what’s all this stuff
Very nice truck. Thanks for the video would like to see what you think about the performance.
Super super super nice truck brother
Since its brand spanking knew and doing these "modifications", wouldn't these void the manufacturer and dealer warranties?
Depends on the type of claim. If the back up camera fails, they would cover it. If the motor has an issue, it will depend on how cool his dealer service writer is. Remember, the dealer gets paid for warranty work......
So this truck runs on the drag strip for racing only?
Yeah for sure only drag racing 😉
So you’ve done EGR and DEFdelete, exhaust intake and exhaust manifolds. Not a 5.9. Any tuning issues?
Nice looking truck👍
2nd gen manifold swap my guy. Not a 2nd gen motor.
Why take out the air box and leave that air filter right there? All it's doing is sucking hot air. The motor runs a lot better and more power with cold air.
you realize that when then air is compressed by the turbo, wether it's hot or cold, it still gets cooled down by the intercooler before entering the intake
And this is why we sold my ctd after my wife bought a 6.4 hemi. Pulls 26k# well enough and only gave up 2mpg.
I was like wow someone put a classic 12v in a modern truck.... And.. shame....
nice how the cold side is right up against the exhaust manifold, thats gonna help heat the air and raise egts. did you preoil that nice pretty turbo before simply firing the thing up, crank it to build oil pressure- anything???
Did you have to buy longer studs to mount the turbo? And did your kit come with coolant plugs?
How much dies this set up cost ??? And ehat size of turbo is that in mm?
I thought you were gonna swap this engine into a second gen.
It would have been cool to see some dino info before and after.
What are the benefits of the 2nd gen turbo vs stock turbo with variable geometry
Reliability and power potential.
Most do it for sound.
Absolutely gorgeous 👌🏻
After doing one of these do you have to do any tuning? Or is there tuners out there that work?
I'm not sure why people do this, the 6.7 is awesome
Love that valve cover, where did you get it?
How long did it take you to do the 2nd gen swap ?
Where did you get the dpf and def delete kit? And what tuner did you use to keep all the egr and stuff from goin crazy throwing check engine light on and stuff
in his case he didn’t use a delete “kit” becuase he swapped the exhaust manifold to a after market one and also the intake horn. which both he bough do not have the flanges for the egr cooler and valve. thats how you gotta do it now becuase it’s hard to get delete “kits that are just block off plates for the stock exhuast manifold and the stock intake horn
So you deleted the grid heater, how is the cylinder air being heated now for starting it I’m lost
Where you get your kit? How much it set you back minus grid heater delete being I live in cold weather area
It looks great. I’m doing a fummins and I dropped in a 2013 6.7 but I want to do the same thing to my Cummins. My question is did you have to reprogram any and doing the conversion? Thanks
yea ezy link
@@savagelife5613 ok thanks brotha I really appreciate it. Keep up the good content 👍
Yup, I like that
What software changes did you make? You took out a bunch of sensors, have to have made software change
I am sure the EPA would like your contact info so they can mail you a fine!
You don't pay and if they show up at the door they get shot for trespassing
Fuck the EPA they can suck a dick and die
Panda Gaming 14 i mean Atleast we aren’t rolling coal at idle or when we barely press the petal anymore Lol.
Panda Gaming 14 On some trucks you can remove the exhaust filter and it wont roll coal like crazy maybe just a big puff thats it though
Subed here before 500
Brand new truck and goes to fuck with it
Nice video full of info. are you not worried about melting your reservoir?
no
so your the reason ive been waiting for my steed speed manifold for 2.5 months. lol. mine is in transit for my 2006 3rd gen. i hope it turns out as nice as yours. how did u tune this swap?
Whoever you are using for tuning, make sure to let them know that you are obviously deleting the truck, but are also installing a 2nd gen swap. If you don’t tell your tuner that your installing a 2nd gen swap you’ll have check engine lights because of the VGT actuator and what not.
The compressor hitting the manifold shouldn’t have anything to do with being a 2020. It would hit the manifold on the bench
Nice I want to do the 2nd gen conversion to my 18. Are you planning on swapping out the cp4?
for now im gonna leave the cp4 if i have issues then ill swap it
I want to 2g swap my 18 also, but I have a 5 inch pipe and don't want to downsize to the 4 inch. I like the way the 5 inch sounds. I also wo der if there is an option to mount the turbo lower, like flipping the manifold and hanging the turbo lower.
I have a brand new 2nd gen exhaust manifold and a 62/68/14 turbo can I run those on the 08 6.7 im purchasing Monday? Tia! And awesome build!!🤙🇺🇸
Yes and yes
@@savagelife5613 awesome! Thanks man I appreciate it!
Will a shop do the swap for you or do you have to do it by yourself
Don’t void your warranty on these brand new trucks by deleting it or doing engine mods & a straight pipe exhaust? At least power terrain warranty wise. But that’s looks sweet! Looks better then the stock engine!
Don’t you I meant
whats a warranty??? lol who cares
@@savagelife5613 It was just a question, jeez la weez!
These trucks NEED a warranty if they aren't deleted. But when they are deleted they run forever
Once you do the deletes to any modern truck and put the proper supporting mods on them you don't need a warranty. I have done work on both a duramax with 3000 miles on it and now my Cummins with 7000 miles and have never had one problem now have over 160k
There is some truck on your red dude might wanna wipe it
Lol
Are you concerned with getting it inspected in the future. I know the epa is really starting to crack down on this stuff?
EPA who ? 😂 ig just depends on the state
Iowa doesn’t have inspections
Yeah, I’m in Texas and I have yet to encounter an inspection spot that checks exhaust or anything like that. Just asking cause I was wondering what the rest of the good ole USA does. There’s bound to be some guys in California that have to deal with it.
Which kit is this that you used. Looking to do the same
Does the kit come with a tuner to delete the emissions?
What kind of tuning
Could the 4th gen intake elbow mount directly to the 5th gens plenum plate?
yes
Good job!
What kit did you purchase?
Hey man did you use dummy plugs when you swapped exhaust for all the dpf connectors? I want to do the exhaust on my 2019 just don’t want to leave my plugs all exposed
no just hide them
Heat shrink
Can I put a 5th gen turbo in my 2nd gen? 🤔
Where can I find that extension wire for the intake plenum sensor?
it comes with bd kit only i think
Looks good
Make a update video of it driving!
What intake manifold is that .
@savagelife561 are you running a cp3 or still running cp4 with this setup
cp4
Where did you get intake manifold ? It's the same that fit 2018 ? I have 2020 but can't find anything saying ok good for 2020 ?
ebay/amzon
@@savagelife5613 I checked all , nothing that say clearly 2020 , all I found is 2018
@@gacusdt its not gonn say 2020 just buy it and throw it on
@@savagelife5613 did you have enough clearance for fuel line ?
Awesome, but it had to be tuned.
of course
Where did you get your tune's?
Why did you do that honestly? If these trucks make 1000lb ft and you’re putting on a turbo from a truck that makes 440lbft stock why? I can understand dpf delete but this? Confused
2nd gen exhaust manifold is far superior to those after, because the turbo receives exhaust gas in the center of manifold were flow is less turbulent and pressure is greater, instead of the junk he removed were turbo is placed at the end of manifold so manufacturer could make room for the EGR and EGR cooler which he is now placing in a recycling bin, also I promise, he is making more hp and torque than factory numbers.
If you guys bought a Banks air horn for that truck you would have gotten a new injector line with it and wouldn't have that kink in it
Next step g56 manual transmission 🤞
What brand turbo blanket?
Soooo why is this video called “brand new 2020 cummins 2nd gen swap”??? That would mean you’re putting a 12 or 24v from a 94-02 into it... am I missing something here?
Jeff Clark 2nd gen turbo and manifold set up on a 5th gen.
luke wilson ok sorry I blew up. I was a little confused
Still looks like every other dodge EVER
Lets see your dodge then tough guy🤣🤣
You knew what you where doing with that title.
What are you talking about??
Ranger false title to get more views. It’s just a emissions delete and turbo swap
shortthrow50 okay you’re both pretty dumb then. Everyone calls that a second gen swap. It’s the manifold setup and turbo from a second gen
How did you delete the ccv?
Looks sick man! Who makes that valve cover ?
industrial injection
I've heard of a 2nd gen swap but I have no idea what that means can someone explain for me plz?
A second gen swap is most common on 6.7 Cummins. Your taking the variable geometry turbo and manifold off and putting a fixed geometry turbo on with a second gen Cummins style exhaust manifold.
@@thedailyproject4569 is that how they get the higher pitch like the 5.9?
street life I wouldn’t necessarily say it’s the manifold that creates a higher pitch. A 2g swap with a proper time will allow for a slightly higher RPM range, and a good amount of guys that do 2g swaps will build their top end and throw in a good street cam. The cam allows for an even higher rpm range with more air flow and that’s what changes the pitch. The whole reason for a 2g swap is for better air flow and better distribution through the manifold compared to a stock 5.9 CR or 6.7 manifold.
@@levim6417 oh okay. I was wondering how people did that cause the 6.7 always sounded muffled after a straight pipe and some people made it sound different so they must've done the 2nd gen swap
what are you using for a catch can setup or are you just letting it drip?
Why why put old technology in a brand-new truck the new motor has a crazy amount of horse power and torgue the only thing that sucks is the def fluid
Why do you mean old technology? All he did was add more airflow and delete some of the bs.
Damn that’s a lot of red
Any amount of red is just too much
Just too let you Know second GEN is 12 valve and 24 valve not 6.7
2nd Gen swap when looking at common rail trucks is the turbo/exhaust manifold swap, more specifically the manifold style and location of turbo being based on the 2nd Gen style
Kinda new to the diesel industry. What’s the pros about doing this??
The older gen engines are better, you can run 500,000 miles with the older engines no problem. My papa had a 2003 3rd gen 5.9 and it had a million miles on it and it still goes to this day.
Foranyclassusedbyme that’s fine and dandy but this isn’t a motor swap. It’s just an emissions delete and a turbo swap. Did you watch the video at all
Not trying to say that this is a bad swap but why put a second GEN Cummins in it?
It’s not
🤦♂️
What 2nd gen swap kit did you use?
evil fab
You just deleted you engine warranty! Great
Why are you deleting the heater?
It restricts air intake flow, also he live in Florida, its warm, no need for an air heater
Man they are quite
Such an easy swap.
Prismatic flame red?
yes