Warhammer Fantasy Competitive Battle Report 01: Bretonnia vs Beastmen 2500pts
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- čas přidán 10. 05. 2022
- A 2500 point competitive Warhammer Fantasy Battle between my Bretonnians vs Mark's Beastmen
We are playing with closed lists and the@triplecrownwargaming comp system. I'm about to take this very Bretonnian army to the @Triple Crown Wargaming Grand Tournament. After my 1.5 our Bretonnian tactica (see my other videos) it's time for me to put my money where my mouth is!
Mark's 'Back to the Hammer' Blog: backtothehammerblog.wordpress...
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Great report. So refreshing and rare to hear the thought process for the decisions, rather than watch a bunch of dice-rolling!
Yes, that's what I'm trying to go for- telling the story of the battle after the event reflectively!
Thanks guys!
My list was as follows:
Note the Triple Crown comp uses the BRB costs for magic items not the army book cost, hence 15pts for the Doombull’s sword
Great Bray-Shaman: Level 4 Wizard; Lore of Beasts; Fencer's Blades; Jagged Dagger 280
Doombull: heavy armour; shield; Sword of Striking; Talisman of Preservation; Ramhorn Helm; Gnarled Hide 343
Wargor: Battle Standard (The Beast Banner); heavy armour; shield 191
Bray-Shaman: Level 2 Wizard; Lore of Shadow; additional hand weapon; Power Stone 132
47 Gors: Foe-render; Musician; Standard Bearer; additional hand weapon 401
Tuskgor Chariot 80
5 Ungor Raiders 30
5 Ungor Raiders 30
5 Ungor Raiders 30
Tuskgor Chariot 80
29 Bestigors: Gouge-horn; Musician; Standard Bearer (Standard of Discipline) 393
5 Harpies: Scouts 70
5 Harpies 55
6 Razorgors 330
Razorgor 55
2,500 points
Cannot tell you how much I have enjoyed listening to your Bretonnian battle reviews. Please keep it up.
Thanks! They'll be some new material very soon!
Why do my enemies always feel the need to immortalise my defeats in you tube battle reports!!!!! Damn you!!!!! :) Khazbar the Magnificent will be back for his Revenge.
It was a great game. Definitely underestimated the unicorns/they were an eye opener as they added a new aspect to the list. Not charging the unicorn with the Bestigor was probably a mistake as they effectively did nothing all game because of it. It was the 2nd game I had used the bull and Razorgor herd combo and I made exactly the same mistake as the previous one (another loss also immortalised on CZcams by D6 Wounds) and that was separating the Doombull from the unit. With a base LD of 6, they really need to be in range of the general or have the attached character. If I use them again, I may drop the Bestigor altogether and switch up the list.
The mark of nurgle bestigor are a good anvil- the only real one in that list (apart form the Doombull in his way!). I don't know how well it would have ended for me had I charged them- because I can tell you I would have swung a lot at Khazbar for fear he had crown of command. and WS10 and mark of Nurgle I might just have missed him and wasted the attacks.
Doesn't Doombull give razgor frenzy when he is with them? If so that would make them immune to panic (which is likely a liability with how much chaf there is in a beastman list)
Yep he does give them frenzy. Part of the reason he joins them as it helps offset their low LD
Is that some glorious music from Dark Omen I hear!? 👌
oh yes. Never bettered, in my view.
@@DrBlaxill a man of fine taste indeed.
wow, didnt expect this video! gonna watch it right now!
Excellent report, Luke.
Steve
Man that unicorn taking out his bestigors for 2 whole turns! And Pier, managing to hold those gors up was absolutely lucky! Good win, unlucky for knoffles :)
THE DOCTOR IS IN
love your battle report style!
Loving your battle reports, thank you for doing these so well! Beautyful Bretonnians there, going up against great looking Beastmen on a nice table - Warhammer at its best indeed!
Great video! Love the presentation and narration. Fantastic looking army as well.
Wonderful! I have been waiting for more narrative battle reports for ages. Let there be many more!
wonderful rank and file old school Warhammer Fantasy Battle.
Thanks. I've been very flattered by how much (and how many) people have enjoyed it, so I'll definitely make more!
Great content! Please make more!! Hope the tournament goes well.
Some real leroy jenkins energy from that bsb
Great style of battle report and narration!
Excellent report. Thanks for posting.
This is great!!! Very impressive setup. Very informative too. It's interesting to see how different Warhammer games work. The characters are very interesting too! Keep the videos coming!
My pleasure!
@@DrBlaxill Now go get the bad guys!
Looks like it was a great game chaps! And Luke managed all that without the Green Knight! I was constantly praying (😉) he’d come on and tear through something! Alas, ‘twas not to be this time although I do enjoy seeing him on the battlefield. You’ll have to do more battle reports featuring him Luke!
awesome army and more awesome dark omen music!
The unicorns did get painted for the event, incidentally. You can see them here: instagram.com/p/Cda--V6t0RV/
And they looked amazing!
@@triplecrownwargaming The fat one is from about 1988 and the thin one from about 1997
Great to see you posting battle reports again!
I have to admit to being jealous of some of your rare Brettonian minis.
(Bertrand, etc ) Very cool mate.
Pity Bertrand has no rules in 8th ed!
I am trying to get hold of Repanse to be my BSB, eventually I'll succeed!
@@DrBlaxill - I got one from Reaper minis that I use as Repanse.
I still play Warhammer Siege and Skirmish so they can still be used with those. 👍🏻
Great batrep!
As a compliment, your voice reminds me of Noel from the Great British Bake off when he narrates!
Man, I really miss this game
I Like this list, it has everything in it what makes Bretonnia Special.
What i didn't Catch is the Thing with the comp-score.
The Comp system is something used here in the UK to give a bit more balance to the games. There have of course many variations of comping used over time and in different countries, but this one has been the dominant one in the UK for the last 5 years or so. You can read it in full here: www.triplecrownwargaming.com/downloads
@@DrBlaxill thank you, i'll Take a Look!
Love it
What a game! we could do a film of this battle
I wonder who would play the Green Knight!
@@DrBlaxill 🤣
@@DrBlaxill That WOULD be interesting to see!
Ooooh yes! I love this! Can we possibly see some chaos as well? Great batrep!
Definitely I'll do some chaos when I pick them up again. I've been enjoying the tactical challenge of Bretonnia (Chaos is playing on easy mode in comparison!) but it won't be long before I break them out again.
@@DrBlaxill Wonderful =D I started with chaos a couple of months ago, and I do play quite competitively...but I have to say I find them way harder to play than Orcs and goblins, Dark Elves and VC. Thanks for the superb content! 😀 PS. Fantastically beautiful army you have there!
@@MacMuskelAttack Interesting. Dark Elves are the best army- most gamers agree on that. However, Warriors are very strong- easily on par with with VC and better than O&G (unless you bring a gunline). There is a lower model count however and the Demon Prince, brilliant as he is, will occasionally die to a war engine or miscast. To me, the real cheese in warriors is with Throgg and Trolls. With my Brets, I quite like facing warriors however as they don't have generically stubborn massive units.
@@DrBlaxill I actually stay away from the Daemonnprince and Discolord. They almost seem not "fair". =P My main issue is having such a low model count. I find it hard to be overly tactical when I have such a low number of units to move around. But it is getting better =) Orcs and goblins in the other hand. A few warmachines, some handgrenades and chariots, and some hard hitting units. Does me right every time =)
@@MacMuskelAttack I agree- the DP is unbreakable and the Disclord unkillable, which often doesn't make for the most interesting game unless the opponent a.) knows how to deal with them and b.) has the tools. An army with a bit of every dimension of warfare can be more satisfying to play with.
Of all the battle reporters I have listened to, you are clearly the best. Presentation, armies etc. are all good and well but for me it comes done to one fact: I can just listgen to you, with half an ear and still get what was going on. You have the right mix between important and fluff sentences, your cadence is slow enough as well as your clear pronounciation for a non-native such as me.
If you change things up in the future, let that be the one thing you keep the same, please.^^
What a lovely comment. Delighted you enjoyed it. Warhammer is by its nature a combination of fluff, strategy, and camaraderie so I think it's important to have a bit of all three in telling the story :-)
@@DrBlaxill That is a mighty fine way to look at it. How is the gaming scene where you play at btw? Small group of tightnight buddies or something else?
@@TheTarturo My own source of 8th ed Warhammer is from three main sources: a local gaming club in South East London where perhaps 4 or 5 of us still play 8th ed. Then there's the UK tournament scene where there are perhaps 4-5 weekend events per year. Finally, there's a broader group of disparate gamers in London and its commuter belt who arrange games on an ad hoc basis in the city's rather small number of gaming places where you book tables.
It's not ideal (in that I would like to play more often with more people) but it's still quite privileged compared to many who just might not have access to other players depending on where they live.
@@DrBlaxill That's a small but healthy mix. Goes to show what was thrown away by GW. Don't know any other system that is still pursued like that.
I was lucky in that regard, we have a very active community here in Halle (East Germany) with both over a dozen regular players and people commuting to our events regularly for play. Just this weekend I (re-) introduced both and old player and a youngblood into the game, so we are actually slowly growing over time.
What kind of restrictions do you play? I got the gist during your tournament video, but it seems to differ quite a bit from what we used to play in Germany and currently use in our community.
@@TheTarturo Exactly. The continued interest in system officially dead for so long is striking.
It's great to hear of players actually picking up the game for the first time. What often happens though is that if you play WHFB at a club or a store here in the UK, the game gets a lot of interest from passing players (either because they are interested to see Fantasy still being played, or they are gamers who have literally never seen GW rank and flank but have played Total War).
There's a comp system called Triple Crown which is the most respected and widely used one here in the UK (although in the past other systems, like Swedish Comp, were used). It's designed for a five-game tournament and an adjustment to your overall score at the end. It's not designed to make all armies equal but it does add a lot of balance. You can find it here:
www.triplecrownwargaming.com/the-comp-pack
I'm a big fan of the Warhammer: Dark Omen battle music.
i root for the skaven, yes, yes.
Shoutout to the ukrainian gor blob